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12:00 AM
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haaaaaattttts
 
Is the chicken under the hat?
Can someone command the chicken to lift the top hat?
 
I don't have a hat yet. This is boring.
 
@Shog9 No hats?
 
Well... "It's a me" should be easy on IPS. :P
 
12:08 AM
Abby T. Mars on December 12, 2017

The Northern Hemisphere temperatures are dropping and the Gregorian New Year draws close. Across Stack Overflow and the Stack Exchange network, thousands of avatarsā€™ ears grow chilly. Itā€™s the season to warm them upā€¦ with hats!

But not just any hats: in celebration of the 6th anniversary of Winter BashĀ¹, some of the most beloved hats from years past will make their triumphant returns to the Winter Bash stage for a repeat performance. We’ve switched up the triggers to ensure hours of hat-gatherin’ fun. (And if you poke around, you might find a few newcomers waiting in the wings to be discovered, too!) …

 
@Shog9 I know this is way too late to ask, but why did @animuson delete this question?
 
12:30 AM
!!/amiprivileged
 
@micsthepick ā•³ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Can you share alternatives for coinhive for mining monero, I know one, CoinImp.com, what about you? by MikeHBrown on monero.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Tutorial to mining Monero with Coinhive by MikeHBrown on monero.SE
 
Hi, there, ridiculous, I know, but here I sit on Stack Overflow at Stack Overflow in Stack Overflow (a t-shirt). Yo dawg. (I'd take a pic but my tablet is brokened.)
 
@AaronHall Ha, nice. You're at the visualization meetup thing?
 
Yes.
 
12:44 AM
ok, I'll use my webcam.
 
I was just up there long enough to eat a sandwich.
 
@AaronHall with a Stack Exchange hat and a Super User hoodie on, while drinking from an SE cup, right?
 
I'm presenting a talk about IT & Security careers to a few hundred schoolkids on Thursday, and I'm taking along the last of my SE pens to give out. I meant to apply for more swag, but this will be it all gone :-)
 
geez, I look bugeyed...
 
12:49 AM
Ah, there you are right at the front :)
 
user202362
I would like to get more SE T-Shirt, but my wardrobe has collapsed under weight already ... I blame it on the cheap, inferior quality wardrobe for not allowing me to get more clothes
 
1:04 AM
I'm looking for flags. Is there a place where @SmokeDetector report potentially bad posts more often than Tavern?
 
user315433

 Charcoal HQ

Where smoke is detected, diamonds are made, and we break thing...
 
Rob
I think charcoal gets the same reports as here
 
Checked the messages since a few hours ago. Makes no difference.
 
user315433
@Rob SO reports are not posted in the Tavern. Other reports are posted here with 5 minute delay (which in most cases means not at all, because the post is deleted within 5 minutes).
 
user315433
@iDebug Makes a lot of difference during the spam hour, 4-12 UTC.
 
1:13 AM
We even have a term "Spam hour"???
 
user315433
Or you can keep metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/posts open in a tab, it has all reports in real time, and the page title has (*) when a new report comes in.
 
user315433
@iDebug Yeah. Also known as business hours in India.
 
It gets more interesting now. Business hours in India.
 
user315433
 
8AM UTC seems like a lunch break :)
 
user315433
1:16 AM
Spam for lunch, of course.
 
BTW, this page shows a few ticks or crosses for every post. What do those mean?
 
Rob
@CrazyIvan Ah, I didn't realise tavern had the throttle as well
 
1:37 AM
Morni..... HAAAAAATS!!
 
user315433
1:55 AM
 
YAY!
 
2:09 AM
@iDebug Checkmarks are 'tp' (true positive) feedback; crosses are false positive feedback
 
This question from the friend's side is the American education system in a nutshell...
 
good morning!
 
MORNING!
 
Will update the chicken post shortly, busy morning, lots of home appliances to decommision and recommision
 
user315433
Fortunately, Crazy University doesn't have A+ grades.
 
2:14 AM
Oooh, looks like gold badge timing lined up okay this year. Might be getting a 100-score answer on SO within the timeframe.
 
user315433
How does A+ even work in grade point average, when it is really out of 4.00 points without bonuses or weights.
 
@CrazyIvan Stressed out high school students who think they're not smart and then get accepted to colleges ranked in the top 5 is unfortunately the time of the year right now...
 
user315433
I did get some A+ in graduate school, and now I recall they made A look "meh" by comparison. But at the graduate level one doesn't really compute GPA (except for some poor misguided souls who put in on their CV), so I don't know what the effect of + was.
 
I think it's mostly for brownie points and making students feel like they'll get a better job than they will.
 
user315433
Their current catalog doesn't have A+. Only A, A-, B+, B, B-, C+, C, C-, D+, D, D-, F, and F#.
 
user315433
2:19 AM
"sharply failed"
 
@Undo How goes the college search?
 
Okayish. I don't like college admissions people.
 
@micsthepick ā•³ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: logo - svg animation by workbench on graphicdesign.SE
 
2:47 AM
.... the only problem with Winter Bash this year is.... IT MOVED THE TOB PAR ICONS TO THE LEFT!!! >:(
Thanks to muscle memory, every time I want to review, I see hats instead.
O well... it's Winter Bash anyway, time to stop reviewing and enjoy the hats~
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Why can't I spend my bitcoins when they have been fully confirmed? by user68606 on bitcoin.SE
 
ahh done
this morning I've unboxed and set up.... a microwave, a toaster oven and a mop
I need to dispose of a toaster oven, and an ice cream maker, and unbox and figure out the new ice cream maker
falls over
 
user315433
 
@JourneymanGeek are you opening a ice cream waffle shop?
 
2:57 AM
@CrazyIvan the old microwave had maggots, my brother basically managed to totally demolish the old toaster oven, which had a thick layer of carbon over parts...
@AndrewT. ... oddly no
the ice cream maker was an impulse thing I think
it was 15 quid, and our current ice cream maker's abooooot 30 years old
 
user315433
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A: Why was my flight cancelled due to bad weather while other flights were not?

user27554It's probably nothing personal, if that's what you're thinking.

 
@CrazyIvan I'd like to see that answer on IPS
 
3:14 AM
Not I.
 
first hat!
Amusingly I'm wearing a mod had over my mod hat.
 
Ben has a mod hat, too :D
 
user202362
 
user202362
snow white and seven five dwarves
 
Five? Is Snow white the grown one or one of the dwarves?
 
user202362
3:30 AM
dwarves are supposed to be smaller than normal adults, so the hen is snow white (also because her snow white feathers)
 
There are only four chicks that I can see in that image...
 
user202362
 
user202362
a 'better' snow white
 
Still not five dwarves ;)
 
user202362
there is a chick hidden between another chick and the hen snow white
 
3:33 AM
... wow, I just realized I was cleaning up 10 comments instead of posting 10 new comments and deleting them...
!!/coffee
 
@AndrewT. brews coffee for @AndrewT.
 
user315433
3:59 AM
All-time #2 on SO is about to change: stackexchange.com/leagues/1/alltime/stackoverflow
 
Sets daily reminder to target votes for current alltime #2 on SO. ;)
 
user202362
4:38 AM
@Catija Oo I am not so sure now, maybe the hen has hairy legs ...
 
Well, some ladies don't like to shave.
 
4:52 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: A proof of Goldbach's conjecture by Tou Shi on mathoverflow.net
 
If we give hats to the spammer, will they stop spamming?
 
I doubt it.
 
user202362
@AndrewT. how big are the hats
 
@Telkitty not big, but many hats, like Hats#1, Hats#2, Hats#3 .... Hats#16738, Hats#16739 ...
 
user202362
I mean, if you can bag spammers in those hats and prevent them from getting onto internet, it might work
 
5:03 AM
Oh, like what the hat has done to the chicken?
 
I got an undocumented hat "ooh shiny", is there a meta post about this already somewhere?
 
@tripleee It's in the MSE hats post... or I can tell you what it is if you like.
 
browsed the start page of MSE but apparently didn't scroll down far enough ... this one? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/304340/winter-bash-2017-hats
 
That's the one.
 
thx
 
5:08 AM
I'm currently at the office... collecting hats. (how productive these weeks will be...)
 
By the way, the suggested edit there is correct... so if anyone else wants to approve it.
It will also get bumped to the top again.
 
!!/location
 
@ThomasWard teward/Lunar Eclipse
 
huh, that's odd... zombie instance... ignore me :)
 
@gparyani I don't know; why wouldn't you ask him?
oh, you pinged us both
well, if anyone knows, it'd be animuson. Though 4 years later, I'd be surprised if anyone remembers.
and it would be irresponsible to guess
but if I were to guess... I'd guess there were a big ol' heap of similar posts and only one was really needed.
 
user202362
5:18 AM
slow people vs Alzheimer patients the forgetful
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Ultavive Garcinia help to mantain your figure slime & fit by bethmpadilla on webapps.SE
 
Did you guys notice? There's not been a single lost person today
no closevotes, no delvotes for me so far here 0_0
 
@Shog9 I couldn't ping animuson because he wasn't pingable. I invited him to The Assembly, but I was told he ignores chat invitations.
 
"lost person"?
 
@JourneymanGeek "Today" meaning "the last 5 hours"?
 
5:29 AM
@JourneymanGeek clearly animuson is lost; didn't you see gpary's message?
 
yes 0_0
@Shog9 different kinda lost
;p
 
ah. Fan of an old TV serial. Glad to hear they're dying out.
 
@Shog9 arguably @gparyani was lost too
 
most of us are, truth be told
 
Self exile, more like?
 
5:30 AM
No, I was hiding in plain sight (as Ano)
Gave away enough hints, but it took the community 6-8 weeks to figure it out
 
I mean... Usually when I lose my sunglasses they're covering my eyes, but... They're still lost.
 
@gparyani the ones who cared anyway ;)
 
Usually when I lose my sunglasses, they're in the fridge.
 
ahhhhh... nothin' like ice-cold glasses on a hot day
 
@Catija I think my granma once put the phone in the fridge...
 
5:34 AM
It's usually where the Roku remote is, too...
 
now, see, that's hard on the battery
 
Though, since we got a new fridge with in-door water dispenser, it happens less often.
 
@JourneymanGeek What made you think it could be me initially? You said it was something you'd imagine me doing.
@Shog9 Has the bug that allows users to flag the same answer as NAA twice by typing "not an answer" into the custom flag box fixed?
 
> Ask her for it, if she says no, deck her, steal all her antiques and leave. Its survival of the fittest
surprisingly, not a drive-by author
 
Where was that posted?
 
5:36 AM
gramma's money, above
 
:(
 
rather, an author who has apparently dedicated their time on the network to posting just that sort of "helpful" answer on numerous sites.
baleeted.
 
Is that the user... it's not the one I see on the deletion page.
 
@gparyani you enjoy attention a bit too much ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek I was just curious
 
5:38 AM
@Catija not the most recent answer, just the most amusing recent deleted answer.
 
@Shog9 Does typing in "not an answer" convert it into a normal NAA flag as it did three years ago?
 
Right. I know. That's not he username I see.
 
@gparyani only one way to find out...
 
I need a moderator to assist me with it
 
...well, ok, there are more than one. But presumably the obvious solution didn't present itself.
 
5:41 AM
Why?
 
and, no you don't need a mod to assist
 
Otherwise, if I just tested it out myself, someone will call me out as abusing the system
 
Huh?
 
it's only abuse if you flag something that is an answer. Twice.
 
If it doesn't work, it's just a comment... and you can delete it... if it does work, it's a flag and you can retract it...
 
5:42 AM
@Shog9 Cast an NAA flag on an existing answer I haven't flagged, have the mod dismiss it, cast a custom flag "not an answer", and have the mod check to see if it shows up as a normal NAA flag or a custom flag
 
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Q: Bug permits me to flag an answer as "not an answer" multiple times

gparyaniI was previously using this bug to my advantage, but now I'm being honest and reporting it. Anyway, normally, when you flag an answer as "not an answer" using the standard option and you have already flagged it as such (and the previous flag has been dismissed with a status), you receive an er...

 
It's a bug for two reasons: 1) these flags get converted to a different type, which changes how they're processed... and 2) that change in type circumvents the normal checks that prevent the exact same flag from being raised multiple times. — Shog9 ♦ Dec 13 '14 at 0:17
Also see:
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Q: How was my custom flag disputed?

user215114Once upon a time, I flagged this answer as "not an answer", which was deemed helpful, but no action was taken on it. However, I flagged it again recently with a custom flag and I typed in "not an answer" for the reason, and it was disputed. I thought that custom flags were treated with confidenti...

 
@gparyani There's a simple solution though. suspend folks who abuse the system for no good reason ;p
 
I want to see if the bug still exists
@JourneymanGeek Can we test it out on this answer? I'll flag it as NAA, and please just mark it as "helpful" without deleting it.
 
5:49 AM
@JourneymanGeek That's a real non-answer
 
then flag it as a non answer, and I'll convert it to a comment ;p
In faaaaaact
 
But then I can't test out the bug!
 
There we are!
All is good in the world!
 
@Shog9 What's the obvious solution?
 
search meta to see if anyone marked it fixed
 
5:52 AM
No, they didn't
 
then it's probably still a bug
 
All I saw is a comment from you, and you removing the tag from the first question above
So my guess is that you did nothing after that comment @Shog9
 
oh, I've done many things
 
It could have been fixed when making another change
 
but none that helped to fix that bug
I forget what causes it though; there may still be a need for it.
 
5:54 AM
Since it's been a long delay, I found it very likely that some other change was made that caused the above bug to be magically fixed
 
(not for the bug, but for the logic behind it)
 
Thus, it would be grateful if you (or I) could test the bug out just once, just to see if it still exists
 
@gparyani clearly the solution is to try it. And to curse its sudden and inevitable betrayal.
 
I'm not even sure you need to flag twice, do you? Was it not converted to NAA if it was on the first flag?
 
Would in theory mean the flags were invalid
 
5:57 AM
Seems to me, if the point is to stop people sending NAA flags to mods, it wouldn't matter whether they'd flagged it before.
 
@Catija No, it does it all the time. But it bypasses the normal check that normally blocks multiple NAA flags
 
and you were trying to be, what we call in singapore "funny"
 
user315433
Curious Data Science happening in one pandas question... X = df[["hay freshness", "coat silkiness", "run length", "temp", "SCMLP", "handler GPA", "score diff", "star yards", "ice cream sold", "shark attacks"]]
 
And before you test it out: it does not work with "very low quality", that just casts a custom flag
 
heh...
it totally does work for very low quality flags though
just not... "very low quality"
 
6:01 AM
@Shog9 Unrelated bug: the hat covers up your username
 
And since I bothered looking that up, I can confirm that it is neither fixed nor a side-effect of anything else.
 
So my flag on this shows up as a normal NAA flag?
 
It's an explicit check, probably a useful one, but unfortunately one that happens after most of the sanity checks.
 
@gparyani feature, not bug.
 
Oooh, incognito posting in chat...
Step 1. Have a short username.
Step 2. have your hat hang low...
step 3. always write 3+line chat posts.
 
6:02 AM
That does look a little like a ship
 
It may be a feature that typing in "not an answer" converts it into a normal NAA flag, but it's clearly a bug that it allows me to bypass the check that prevents me from flagging as NAA twice
@Shog9 Change it so it happens before the sanity checks
3 mins ago, by gparyani
So my flag on this shows up as a normal NAA flag?
 
Have you seen their trello board of shit to do?
 
Its gonzo ;p
 
Literally.
 
user315433
@Catija Doesn't work when there are hat haters in chat.
 
6:08 AM
I used this bug on SO back in early 2014, and it happened a few times that I flagged as NAA, it was declined or disputed, then again, and it was marked helpful and the answer deleted
 
@CrazyIvan Feature Request Anyone who clicks "I hate hats" should be excluded from chat for the duration of Winter Bash.
 
@Catija who else would we mock? ;p
 
Hmmm... give them a single chat room to share... on MO?
 
@Catija You can click the icon, it's not quite incognito
 
God, and I thought I was bad at taking jokes too seriously. FFS.
 
6:12 AM
@JourneymanGeek My flag on that answer shows up as a normal NAA flag, right?
 
6:29 AM
so much fun. apparently votes are updated in realtime
so when I'm trying to flag for spam, I see the negative votes increase.... like a ticking time bomb XD
 
user315433
@JourneymanGeek Yes, post score is updated by a websocket connection
 
I didn't notice that before.
 
6:45 AM
I just killed Malwarebytes on my office computer, and now it is running smoothly, just like free of malware...
 
dude. Mercury was used to treat syphilis once
Sometimes the disease is not as bad as the treatment? ;p
10 messages moved to Chimney
shakes fist I just cleaned that!
 
Is it spam hour? Hmm..
 
7:02 AM
I'm wondering... how does Chicken participate in chat if it's less than 13 years old?
 
@JohnDvorak Its a chicken.
(its a'official' feed/bot/system account)
 
From the chicken perspective, they're already 40+ over.
 
shouldn't they be named Hen then?
 
chicken is gender neutral I think
 
Next best selling novel: When Roosters Meet Hens
 
7:13 AM
banned in over 200 countries!
 
Wow, has Russia fallen apart again?
 
damn it? someone ship em a roll of duct tape
(what happened?)
 
I heard they were putin a blender
 
...
defenestrates @JohnDvorak
 
sorry
 
 
1 hour later…
8:31 AM
Why there are no hats in chat yet?
 
@balpha I'm seeing very long load times for cdn-prom.sstatic.net/WinterBash/js/wb-core-incl.js?v=4 (21 seconds). Is that expected?
 
@rene same for TLS-handshake with winterbash2017.stackexchange.com
 
Hmm, did they DDOS-ed themselves again?
 
@rene "All I want for Cristmas is DDOS-ing themself more effectively"
What is the purpose of pinned chickens on the starboard?
I prefer grilled ... not pinned chickens
 
We wait for them to make more chickens
 
8:46 AM
@rene less than 1 second from here
 
Ok, then it is europe I guess that gets hit
 
but... the hats gone on chat!?
 
they have been replaced by chickens
 
there all kind of timeouts reported now on MSO and MSE
 
Yeah, the sites (also Winter Bash) are quite slow...
 
8:51 AM
@alexolut because chickens.
 
To much users want to wear hats!
 
nooo my hats.
 
@JourneymanGeek because chickens.
 
SE takes a Hat stand
 
@JourneymanGeek ducks are cooler than chickens. I will have one for the lunch.
 
8:54 AM
actually
I think winterbash vanished
 
@rene I wouldn't call it "expected" :)
seeing the same thing
 
eh. I think the snowflake is randomly appearing and disappearing too
slow loads?
 
@balpha So ... you take a coffee and call the guy that is on stand-by?
!!/coffee
 
@rene brews coffee for @rene
 
@alexolut I'm not seeing a hat here, MSE's Winterbashing now
 
9:07 AM
Oh no I messed up the order of the chicken starboard :( the UI was lagging
 
You Monster
 
That lonely chicken must be downstarred
 
9:54 AM
!!/hats
 
@ShadowWizard Winter Bash won't end for 26 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, and 29 seconds. GO EARN SOME HATS!
 
@Derpy you're back to using your main account?
 
The hats are back on the chat!
 
\o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: How can i increase responses to my survey? by R-A on academia.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: Why can't we add this blog feed into our chat? by Firefox Support on meta.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in title: L...................................-.- by Xabier on es.stackoverflow.com
 
10:23 AM
Lā€¦-.-
oh, repeated punctuation being trimmed on the title
 
seems no one ever made a feature request for a chat flag history page.
 
"chat is 3rd-class citizen" thingy
 
lol
there is sorta one
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Calculate sum of several sizes of files in Bash by Murgo on serverfault.com
 
10:41 AM
@Chicken šŸŽ©šŸ¦„
 
@AndrewT. chat on SE is a bit strange?
It works really well, but its kinda at that "Its mature, and there's not much to add". Also, isn't really a standalone product on its own
 
@JourneymanGeek btw, any update on the "what to do with spam accounts" thing?
 
@Derpy not yet.
 
so, still "flag and hope"
 
Not officially anyway
@Derpy there's nothing to flag
 
10:49 AM
This is fine...
 
... WHY you have to polish OT questions??? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/304384/…
please, reject the edits.
 
@Derpy it seems the tide has been stemmed tho
 
@Derpy rejected
 
Do we know who is the Hat Overlord this year?
Balpha?
 
11:01 AM
buh that editor is just bad, all their edits are horrible. One was approved somehow, rolled it back.
The editor change meaning of posts.
 
So... I guess no one know?
 
What you mean Overlord?
Developer? It's confirmed to be @balpha, yes.
If you mean something like we had with Abby then Jon... maybe they ditched it this year.
I do suspect the Chicken is related to secret hat though...
 
11:16 AM
so @balpha is the one to annoy.
Please, oh hatted one. If you are going to have a Super Mario themed hat, add a pair of eyes on the hat maybe? Should be pretty easy to just add that ? Pretty please?
 
MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF PINS!
 
Blame @Chicken
And @Telkitty
!!/blame
 
@ShadowWizard It's SmokeDetector's fault.
2
 
no no no
You can't blame yourself
 
Heh, pointless stars :)
 
11:27 AM
WHAT?????????
 
@Derpy it's not on star board, hence pointless.
 
nope, wasn't talking about that.
See my meta post. Almost finished, will cross link here as soon as it is ready.
I may have noticed something noteworthy about Chicken.
 
11:46 AM
@Derpy umm... what post? You didn't post anything for long time with this account, you mean the flag history you posted as @SPA? What about it?
 
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Q: The Quest for the Winter Chicken of the Bash, Part 2

SPArchaeologist(Part One is Here) As every year winter has come... and as every year the hunt for hats and secret has started. So, following the recent events in the Tavern I was following the Chicken tracks back to the Winter Bash site. Sadly with all the snow, following our little feathered fellow tracks wa...

@ShadowWizard Patience learn you must, my friend.
 
> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 497 (Not a Chicken)
^ I'm serious, that's the error message you get on the console
 
what the cluck?
 
User-Agent: Chicken doesn't change anything
 
Adding chicken|1 to the cookie doesn't change anything
 
11:53 AM
Shall someone try and change its username to chicken? :P
 
I'll try
 
in the meantime, sorry for the star spam but I will try to star every message from the chicken.
 
didn't do anything
 
@Stijn try to access the "chicken hat" link, maybe it won't reply with "not-a-chicken"?
 
If this is an attempt to parody en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_Protocol, then perhaps POST message or something
 
11:59 AM
@Derpy I did
oh but I'm not logged in on the winterbash site
lemme try again
no, same result
 
also tried /egg and /duck
 
12:16 PM
I think we broke winterbash again
 
@JourneymanGeek Nah not you guys
We, uuh, ddosed ourselves with the sprites
 
@MarkHenderson grinch?
....
Grinch
 
ok, added source for Link's Hat on the hat list
 
This chicken thing is new to me though. I've been out of the loop for too damn long
 
@MarkHenderson no one seems to know the chicken thing, or wants to talk about it ;p
(also, I kinda got the hat I want. ;p)
 
12:20 PM
I don't have any idea how to add Chicken to the Request Header...
nope, doesn't work (I think?)...
 
I am seriously thinking to ask if Mario Kart 8 is canon with Breath of the Wild. On Science&Fiction.
 
12:52 PM
what does the red dot means on a review queue?
 
@Derpy new items to review (maybe with a certain treshold, not sure)
 
@Chicken and yet it is empty when I click the link -_-
 
caching
:p
it's also not personalised yet for your reputation level I think
 
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