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Success
Success
2:32 AM
> We'd like to support this, but don't yet have any ETA.
Expect that in 6-8 years
 
user315433
2:45 AM
Ah, importing from __future__ handles most of what I need.
 
user315433
I already used GoCo (or how is it supposed to be abbreviated) for three answers today.
 
user315433
Convenient, now that Secure Shell extension for Chrome became utterly unable to import key files, hence unable to connect to my EC2 instance.
 
user315433
Which means I don't have EC2 access while on a Chromebook.
 
user315433
 
user315433
^ this is neat. And then Google tries to help on their side...
 
user315433
2:54 AM
 
user315433
Gah. A super common error, and the top search result is some obscure thing that hardly anyone would encounter.
 
user315433
Viewed 46,555 times, mostly in vain.
 
user315433
Okay, people do assign to list now and then, but that is far from #1 reason for that error message.
 
user315433
@SmokeDetector go ahead and flag R/A, there are now two of such posts there.
 
user315433
3
Q: erm... I lost 2,134 in reputation

Mari-Lou AYes, I know. When a user is removed, or they delete their accounts their upvotes and downvotes are removed. But tonight I lost 2,134 rep. That's a lot. Seriously. This is no laughing matter. I just wish I could lose weight this easily... And, apart from anything else, I thought the down and up...

discussion support bug
 
user315433
3:04 AM
Fallout from Josh's departure from ELU. But 2134 isn't all that much...
 
user315433
Still curious that upvotes were not preserved.
 
Catija
Catija
Should depend on when the votes were cast... If the posts are over a certain score and the votes are over a certain age, they should stick around.
I lost 53.
 
user315433
@Catija That's for post deletion (3+ score and post over 60 days old). This is user deletion.
 
user315433
Mari-Lou quoted the policy in her post.
 
Catija
Catija
Should be the same, though.
 
Success
Success
3:09 AM
Is this the first occurence of high-rep user deletion after the "new simplified user-deletion process"?... wait, does it affect high-rep user?
 
Catija
Catija
Depends on what you call high rep...
 
Success
Success
10k+ aka trusted user? :)
 
user315433
It really isn't. Either a CM will proceed normally (votes are deleted), or votes are kept undeleted. This applied to all votes by the user, a binary decision.
 
Catija
Catija
... But Mari deleted her IPS account and... unless she hadn't voted on anything, the votes she cast weren't undone.
 
Success
Success
so many user deletion ._.
 
user315433
3:13 AM
@Success It's simplified in the "requesting deletion" stage. The manual review of those cases where the votes may be worth preserving stays manual.
 
Success
Success
got it
 
user315433
And, as Shog writes, it's based on "Number of votes cast by the user being deleted" and
"Number of people affected significantly by those votes", not on their rep.
 
Catija
Catija
... I've been looking at high reputation users on ELU... Almost no one has that much lost reputation.
 
user315433
Yes, Mari-Lou's loss is largest, according to english.stackexchange.com/…
 
user315433
Unfortunately new week began just now (UTC), so one has to look at month page to see the changes, and they are offset by the gains during the month.
 
Success
Success
3:19 AM
@SmokeDetector we have a new friend, as usual
 
user315433
A new source of helpful flags, that is. Comments ending with a bunch of dots are one-flag deletable.
 
user315433
I've nuked all of those comments already, the posts still remain though.
 
user315433
3:40 AM
Speaking of votes: 75K votes up, 0 down
 
Catija
Catija
Ugh... I really, really don't understand people who don't vote down.
 
user315433
A request for some clarity regarding vote-preservation: Is user's reputation one of criteria for keeping their votes after account deletion?
 
Catija
Catija
I'm going to guess that Shog's right and the help pages are old...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
3:57 AM
@Catija I rarely vote down, unless its particularly bad
and a good chunk of those get refunded
 
Catija
Catija
:(
Downvoting is part of moderation.
Go check out the Frying Pan.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Catija very little stuff is bad enough to need a DV IMO
pies? ;p
(I've been offline two days. Had a raging eye infection that made me wish I had an eyepatch)
 
Catija
Catija
You clearly have a much stricter reason for downvoting. I don't. Bad answers need downvotes.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
true
 
Catija
Catija
Oh no! :(
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
3:59 AM
@Catija oh yeah
 
Catija
Catija
@JourneymanGeek Quiche. But, sure.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Catija but if an answer is bad enough, it gets gone a lot of the time ;p
 
Catija
Catija
Not on IPS.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
IPS is... kinda odd? ;p
What makes a substancial answer bad?
not the oneliners. Those should get gone.
 
Catija
Catija
peufeu?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
4:02 AM
heh. Answers, not users ;)
 
user202362
4:31 AM
I wonder if it's possible to create rainbow in a steamy shower room with light similar to sunlight.
 
user310756
@Telkitty you can create them with a hose in the sunlight
 
user310756
@Telkitty 5.30? still cool for you?
 
user202362
yeah ... cool although it's such a hot day :p
 
user310756
lol
 
user310756
I've only just woken up didn't notice
 
user310756
4:41 AM
if you want to reschedule I'll go back to bed
 
user202362
are you feeling okay?
 
user310756
I'm improving, but still crook. I have to go to the horses either way.
 
user310756
I did get my son to feed them a couple of times this week when I was worse - but he needs to get a lift to them, none of my kids drive yet O>O
 
user310756
5:03 AM
@Telkitty do you want to meet later?
 
user202362
roughly what time?
 
user310756
6.30?
 
user310756
If you're worried about the heat.. it's nice in the cool there
 
user310756
I don't have to do much, I raked the hay in the paddock yesterday, so I just need to feed them
 
user310756
which means we can just relax and sit and chat about SE lol
 
user202362
5:10 AM
lol, ok ... if I am early I will just let myself in :p
 
user310756
I'll text you the code for the lock
 
user310756
I'm tempted to have another snooze... I've been wiped out.
 
user202362
Got it. Ta.
 
user310756
I'm working out my study plans. I'll tell you about them when we see each other
 
user310756
 
user310756
5:15 AM
 
user202362
 
user202362
interesting... :p
 
user310756
yep
 
user310756
I'm enrollingin a grad cert for inf sys sec
 
user310756
will then change over to cyber sec (as it's not available straight away)
 
user310756
5:19 AM
finishing grad dip of IT
 
user310756
don't think I will do masters in it - will change to master of cyber sec - looking at it, as it's possible to complete both concurrently
 
user310756
@Telkitty make sure you study the degrees - I'll test you at the horses :D
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:37 AM
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:58 AM
Not sure if completely clueless or worst troll ever. Or homework
 
user310756
@JourneymanGeek waffles
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Pretty sure that sorta thing's not going to help.
lol
 
user310756
hehe
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
That wouldn't help either.
 
user310756
it's classic of the geek who -- you know
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
6:04 AM
by the 'blacklisted user' on smokey I assume troll tho
 
user310756
of course!! hahahaha
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
@JourneymanGeek Win 7 keyboard printing wrong characters. Any help ?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
throws @TheLittleNaruto a lifesaver
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
^^
This is my Mom's laptop.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
wrong keyboard layout?
your laptop is a mom?
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
6:09 AM
NoooOOOooo
She doesn't know to use it much. she only uses Chrome for playing God related songs on YouTube.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
heh definately free flags troll
^ needs more flags
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
6:26 AM
Looks like I'll have to try RA.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
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@TheLittleNaruto heh. Or try an actual Q&A site
that's what they are for
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
But I think this question might attract downvotes
So I just wanted to ask on chat
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
which would annoy people
chat is not for asking questions - least as far as RA goes
if you're a regular, sometimes complaining about $problem gets people throwing answers at it ending up in a question
but "this question could attract downvotes, so I'd ask on chat just isn't the right way to go about things"
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
So I should ask the question on main site even though I am expecting downvotes ?
Ok
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Make it good then
make sure you've ruled out the obvious. Ensure any essential details are there.
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
6:35 AM
I'll check if I missed any try
Then I'll ask.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
but definately check your keyboard settings
and when you ask, say what keys are transposed
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
I can see "US"
Also some selector layout is appearing whenever I open chrome and hover on it anywhere
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
if its a laptop, is numlock on?
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
Not sure if it is on because laptop has no led to observe whether num lock is switched on/off
I tried checking by toggling, but number buttons never prints any numbers
 
Success
Success
6:50 AM
does it happen on all programs? not only Chrome?
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
just on chrome
on mozilla, it's fine.
 
Success
Success
then probably an extension
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
But keyboard is still not working
 
Success
Success
does it happen on all sites, or only Google? (I see a keyboard icon on that text box?)
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
Just on google's home page
 
Success
Success
6:54 AM
I'm really curious of that "keyboard" icon on the right of the text box. If I'm not mistaken, Google sometimes offer on-site keyboard to help input text in language without proper keyboard
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
I just restarted my laptop
Will check again
 
Success
Success
Like the one on Google Translate, there's an "input tool" that looks like a keyboard
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
After restarting, selector is not showing up.
 
Success
Success
uh... okay... yay?
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
But still I am not able to make my keyboard working
 
Success
Success
6:59 AM
@_@
sorry, not sure if I can help then...
 
user202362
@YvetteColomb start driving now, will be there in 20-30 mins ...
 
rene
rene
7:55 AM
In a merge accounts scenario between a 5 year old account and a 2 days old account, can I pick that the merge target will the newest account? I ask because of the merge suggestion I did here.
Also I need a dev to check my assumption how id's are generated.
 
Success
Success
I think it will be merged to the older/abandoned/forgotten account with existing post history, because you usually request a merge from the newer/duplicate account? Not sure though, really a pure guess.
I mean, I don't think personally I have ever heard about requesting to merge to current account.
 
rene
rene
Yeah, that seems logical. I recall that @AdamLear mentioned something about this earlier but I can't find where that was.
This now deleted answer suggests it could go either way. (image: i.stack.imgur.com/NPYse.png)
As you could indicate which profile to merge into the account you flagged from
Not sure if that option still exists now the process seems to be automated.
 
Success
Success
8:13 AM
Wow, that looks really old...
Anyway, I just realized the difficulty of getting "What's Meta" link with the new tob par™
or... Meta Stack Exchange [whats-meta] [what-meta] [help]
yeah, I don't know if there's a magic link to that
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:54 AM
in iOS and Android Apps, 2 days ago, by Test User
This user has 1 rep.
Wonder what @BrianNickel is testing there... ?
New features for chat?
Though posted in the iOS room.... perhaps new features for the app??
 
Success
Success
1-rep user with explicit write access on iOS room, that means...
the room will not be public anymore :(
(wrong focus)
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
9:20 AM
@Success well no point for the room anyway so better this way
Don't let users build their hopes too much.
Looks like the room became Brian's sandbox though. ;)
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
@ShadowWizard Family guy's Brian ?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TheLittleNaruto no.
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
Ok
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@TheLittleNaruto yup.
lol
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
:)
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
9:25 AM
He was hired by SE ^
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
haha
nice
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
10:20 AM
plz-delete undefined wall of code meta.stackexchange.com/questions/302641/… @rene @JourneymanGeek (@Bart IS NOT PINGABLE!!!!!1!!!!!!1111!!!)
 
TheLittleNaruto
TheLittleNaruto
@ShadowWizard should be flagged as spam ?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart you... are... not.... p... pi... pin... ping.... pinga.... can't even say it.
@TheLittleNaruto no no no
Just deleted.
No flags.
No need to bother the diamonds, they're not janitors.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@ShadowWizard done needful
 
 
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rene
rene
11:39 AM
@ShadowWizard now gone
sorry that it took that long
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
11:52 AM
@rene Apology denied
 
rene
rene
OK, now what?
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
12:13 PM
@rene @Sha is giving you a silence treatment
 
rene
rene
nice
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@rene If he hears that reaction, he'd probably give another silence treatment as well
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
12:42 PM
.+.
Proof of spam: linkedin.com/in/stacho
> Consultant. Co-Founder at SketchViewer
 
rene
rene
@M.A.R. is that bad? The silence would fit nicely in my quiet Sunday ...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
noisy ping for @rene
revenge ping for @M.A.R.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@rene it's supposed to be bad
You should feel sad
Lonely
Not to mention unentertained
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@rene is a flower. Flowers can't be sad or lonely.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ShadowWizard don't underestimate him
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
12:52 PM
I'm abovestimating him.
 
rene
rene
@M.A.R. I don't care for supposed to be bad things.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
I wonder how the Tavern still didn't fall apart, with @Bart gone.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ShadowWizard Fear not, for I am here
Momentarily
@rene Do you care about not caring?
 
rene
rene
Yes
@ShadowWizard is it time to send a search party?
I guess that is a party with lots of wine and beer
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@rene so you did end up caring
 
rene
rene
12:59 PM
I cherry-pick my caring
 
user202362
1:29 PM
I care to cherry pick, cherry picking season starts November ...
 
rene
rene
Do you have trees in your garden or can find them in the wild?
 
user202362
there are cherry farms where I can do what, unless you are a farmer, grow fruit trees in own garden is a terrible idea for most people ...
 
user202362
birds and worms are guaranteed to find ripen ones before you
 
user202362
you have to get a net and some how cover the tree with it
 
user202362
1:52 PM
this plum tree has been in the backyard for nearly 10 years, it produced altogether less than 1 whole kg really edible plums so far
 
user202362
once a birdie finds ripen fruit on your tree, it will probably call its family & friends over and having a party there ...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
2:08 PM
Talking about silence treatment, you never replied to those, @M.A.R.

Five questions for @M.A.R

Oct 9 at 20:32, 46 seconds total – 5 messages, 1 user, 0 stars

Bookmarked 27 secs ago by Shadow Wizard

20 days and waiting! :D
 
Brian Nickel
Brian Nickel
@ShadowWizard nothing glamorous. Was documenting meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/358097/… during bug duty.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@BrianNickel oh. But you better check with diamond-less sock, which will be only RO, and won't be able to grant access to 1 rep user to begin with. Since moderators can give access to anyone, you probably won't be able to reproduce the bug.
 
Brian Nickel
Brian Nickel
The bug was just even being able to send the request. Accepting was more a matter of curiosity. That’s good to know though, answers some of my questions.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
2:27 PM
@BrianNickel I see. So, bug is confirmed?
 
Brian Nickel
Brian Nickel
Yeah, guess I should comment. Doing that now.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ShadowWizard OH SO YOU NOTICED </grump>
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
3:12 PM
@BrianNickel awesome!
@M.A.R. of course
Now wear that coat when going outside, it becomes cold!
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
4:09 PM
If the site is already in the black list, I really doubt anyone will use it innocently. In such case it's "guilty unless proven innocent".
Flagged as spam, though being small site I doubt any mod will ever see it. Oh well.
lol, only one mod is still active on the site. One mod was last seen almost two months ago.
Really need auto script that will remove moderator that wasn't seen on the site for a month.
 
Success
Success
The mods need more caffeine...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
But I doubt SE has even one small site with active moderators, i.e. all appointed mods are still active.
I assume that on all of them at least one is long gone after a while.
And nobody bothers to check, appoint new mod, etc.
 
Success
Success
Let's check... CommunityBuilding.SE
3 out of 3 still look alive
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
So it's usually one single moderator who is doing all the job, feeling bad about being alone, so missing lots of things.
@Success well they are special. ;)
Or maybe still new? What's the site age?
 
Success
Success
@ShadowWizard 3 years 3 months, with the lowest traffic
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
4:14 PM
hmm...
Oh well. Theory borked. :D
Better be wrong on this, lol
Still, it's just irritating to see moderators just vanish.
If you're away for months, just ask to be removed, so that the CM's will have a chance to appoint someone else who is still active. It's trivial.
Wonder if @Desire has some script that check moderators last activity on sites, then we can find what the record is...
I won't be surprised to find moderator who was last seen/active years ago.
(and no, Jeff doesn't count. ;))
 
Success
Success
OTOH I remember that there's a page that list all moderators on SE. Now I missed it again...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
Doubt it's showing their last activity though.
So page scraping is needed.
 
Success
Success
at least we can guess by "never hearing their usernames"
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
lol
@Success this is the page: stackexchange.com/about/moderators
 
Success
Success
@ShadowWizard thanks.. looking on...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
4:21 PM
Happy scraping! ;)
 
user315433
4:35 PM
@ShadowWizard No, I'm only scraping the list of mods to track changes to it.
 
user315433
Scraping user profile pages is a quick way to IP ban.
 
user315433
But fortunately, last access date is available via API, so it would not be hard to implement.
 
user315433
I tried to get helpful flag counts of all users with a Marshal, which isn't available via API or SEDE; SE refused to cooperate with the scraper really quick.
 
Success
Success
4:52 PM
@Desire I'm going to be banned, brace myself :'(
 
user315433
0
A: Make Cortana listen on Cortana-app startup

vadher AakashHii what's your meaning sex please answer me Cortana

 
user315433
Does Cortana now post questions it can't answer to SE?
 
Success
Success
5:12 PM
scraping with 5 seconds backoff...
 
Success
Success
5:40 PM
still scraping on usernames starting with J...
 
user315433
6:17 PM
 
user315433
SU keeps getting new "special" users.
 
user315433
The links are linkified on network profiles. :(
 
user315433
We were talking about this in chat, and my thought would just be to de-linkfiy if network combined rep is under 10, like the per-site limit. — hichris123 Oct 19 '14 at 3:51
 
user315433
Or if no account with >1 rep, or whatever.
 
Success
Success
@ShadowWizard someone at Startups
 
Success
Success
6:38 PM
and no meta post about that, but a new pro-tempore mod in 2016
 
user315433
So, it's Nick Wilde, Last seen Aug 10 '15 at 16:36
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
6:56 PM
@Desire only once a day or so then cache it, shouldn't trigger any ban. :)
 
user315433
For last access, using the API solves the problem: can get all of site's mods with one request, no need to parse HTML.
 
user315433
By the way, a user's age is still available through the API (but not anywhere else): for example, Ghostly Martijn is 44 years old.
 
user315433
Of course, it's stability / backward compatibility, API 2.2 is frozen.
 
user315433
API 2.2 was released on February 10, 2014
 
Success
Success
Ah, you mentioned API, not SEDE. I read it wrong...
 
user315433
7:01 PM
When your app is constrained by 3.5 year old API, giving it that sweet Stack Overflow name is unlikely to help.
 
Success
Success
But based on packet sniffing, the API version is 2.3
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Desire yeah his site is also 404. /cc @Success
@Desire lol.. it was on the network profile too for years after being removed from profile pages, and pretty sure still showing in Area 51.
 
user315433
7:21 PM
 
user315433
@Success Right, and we can use 2.3 as version parameter, but nobody knows what will be different... maybe some bugs were fixed?
 
Success
Success
or some private, undocumented endpoints... but currently I can't sniff the app. Either it's due to Android security (prevent MITM), or my ISP blocking VPN
I decided to try and test Android Studio 3.0's new debug APK, and found... an interesting testing file for SE Android App Feed :/ 
"earned_privileges": [
    {
    "site": "travel",
    "privilege_short_description": "post lolcat pictures",
    "privilege_long_description": "Post lolcat pictures",
    "privilege_id": 123,
    "reputation_required": 999,
    "link": "http://superuser.com/privileges/gallery-chat-rooms",
    "group_id": 1749,
    "added_date": 1370846104
    }
    ]
,
Yeah, it uses 2.3. There's a stacman package dedicated for API calling with 2.3 in its URL, but I can't decypher more of those reversed-engineered codes...
 
rene
rene
8:42 PM
→ 34 messages moved to Chimney
 
user315433
8:57 PM
In today's "not sure if it's on Arqade or for real"
 
user315433
0
A: Ayin Hara - The evil eye - Hocus Pocus

Yaw AnnorYou have the tools to make yourself anti evil eye. It's easy with the holy bible

 
user315433
(On my list of potential NAA posts, I don't usually read the site name first)
 

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