Tavern on the Meta

12:00 AM

Heh, my senior just came back about two weeks ago from long term illness... out since December... but that's different. :( Still, made it difficult to do much.

Journeyman Geek

naw, I think they were just... not there.

I couldn't afford to do do that

I was basically in at 8, and on my feet till 5 ;p

user202362

anything 'dream' implies impractical :p ... unless we are actually talking about the 'dream' dream

Journeyman Geek

(also, they pull this stunt where they always refuse to confirm you as a full employee after 3 months, so they can do it at 6)

@Telkitty Dream involves "thing thats very hard but not impossible" ;p

Catija

OK, time to go home. I'm sure I'll be back later, though... probably...

user202362

but then again, people win lottery, so ...

user202362

12:17 AM

@YvetteColomb I am not sure, I think they might help. But are you allowed to keep roosters?

user315433

1:01 AM

> Blessed are the sleepy ones, for they shall soon drop off.

Catija

1:12 AM

I wasn't aware the beatitudes had been updated.

user315433

I feel like doing something about elementary OS moderation, but don't know what. Out of my 60 pending flags (network-wide), 24 are on that site. The oldest of them turned 2 months old today. My post Reduce the number of required Delete/Recommend Delete review actions in Low Quality queue got 1 entire upvote on meta (with 11 views, half of them probably me).

Catija

.... You could ask a question on their meta "does this site need more moderators?"....

user315433

And get another 1 vote with 11 views?

Catija

One of the signs of a site in crisis is the inability to quickly handle flags.

user315433

I guess I could count that as overwhelming support, by the standards of that meta. But there's a chance the vote came from the Tavern when I linked that post earlier.

Catija

1:18 AM

... you're in here with a bunch of CMs/devs... you could ask what they think

user315433

They think about salary calculators, probably.

Catija

Um... yeah, none of the mods have been on the site all month...

September 30th is the most recent.

Jon Ericson

1:31 AM

@Desire Your obsession with salary calculators is weird.

Catija

@Catija I lied. Those are meta visit dates. Sorry.

user202362

I mean ... if you think about it, herbivorous might be low down the food chain. But food is everywhere. Apex predators might be high on the food chain, but they need to be very good with hunting otherwise they will starve to death ...

user202362

I wonder when council will take action against incoming rabbit infestation in the neighbourhood ... not that I really want to see the rabbits gone

Jon Ericson

1:52 AM

@Telkitty Or adopt the bear's omnivorous habit.

Catija

omnivorous? I thought bears ate hunny.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija heh. I consider good moderation to be more than flag handling.

user202362

Bear

Bears are carnivoran mammals of the family Ursidae. They are classified as caniforms, or doglike carnivorans. Although only eight species of bears are extant, they are widespread, appearing in a wide variety of habitats throughout the Northern Hemisphere and partially in the Southern Hemisphere. Bears are found on the continents of North America, South America, Europe, and Asia. Common characteristics of modern bears include large bodies with stocky legs, long snouts, small rounded ears, shaggy hair, plantigrade paws with five nonretractile claws, and short tails. While the polar bear is mostly...

Journeyman Geek

Flags not being handled is either a symptom of people not having enough time to (which is bad), not bothering (which is worse!) or mods just wandering off into the sunset (we need more mods then)

but there's so much more

user202362

@JonEricson yeah, those opportunistic omnivorous ...

Catija

1:59 AM

@JourneymanGeek I didn't say it was only that... but if a site is failing to remove bad content, that makes it eligible for shutting down.

Journeyman Geek

Not checking up on meta is bad too, but I mostly rely on my mod batsignal for that these days

@Catija ah

@Catija also stuff like spam is mostly user/bot handled these days so if that's not gone....

its a more ... elementary... problem

Catija

har har har. You'll have to ask @Desire what the flags are for.

Journeyman Geek

(I am a terrible person and built all that up to make that one pun)

@JonEricson clearly he loves salary calculators. And wants a blinking marquee covering half the page about it.

Catija

@JourneymanGeek It's so sad that they made that code non-standard... such a great effect.

Andy made me mute the chat alerts because they're the same as his cell ringer.

Journeyman Geek

hah

@Catija could do it in JS now probably.

and have flashing multicoloured blinking with marquees that appear and disappear on random parts of the page for-the-love-of-dog-do-not-do-this

user315433

3:29 AM

The bc.vc shortener that Shog doesn't like became a topic on Android.

user202362

3:57 AM

please convince me advertisements are not spams ...

user310756

@Telkitty probably not, I'm jsut curious :D

Journeyman Geek

@Telkitty no?

user202362

@JourneymanGeek in what ways?

Journeyman Geek

I mean, no, I will not convince you ;p

user202362

because advertisers pay for them and they are less intrusive?

user202362

3:58 AM

@JourneymanGeek Oo

Journeyman Geek

Well, historically there's little difference between an ad on a website and a traditional newspaper ad. Would you call it spam?

The main problem with online advertising is a lot of it is obnoxious or at least somewhat dangerous (SE deals with it by supposely being super picky) and there's no easy way to whitelist by parent site in most ~~spam~~ adblocks

user202362

both are about telling others a product or a service they may or may not need or want

Journeyman Geek

spam is a little more like those people who stuff fliers in your post box

user202362

they serve the same purpose in that sense, though they might be at opposite sides of the spectrum ...

Journeyman Geek

@Telkitty working out what you want/need without being stalkery as heck is hard ;p

user202362

4:06 AM

@JourneymanGeek but sometimes people do use or read them

Journeyman Geek

Here we have a machanism to opt out, physically

user202362

exactly

Journeyman Geek

but a lot of spammers ignore unsubsribes

and you're hardly going to get viagra spam in your physical mailbox ;p

TheLittleNaruto

4:31 AM

Yo SE Shinobis

user202362

<-- ninja hacker

TheLittleNaruto

4:53 AM

steals @Telkitty 's all kitties and runs away while I can...

like a ninja...

user202362

TheLittleNaruto

run...run..

Journeyman Geek

5:09 AM

@TheLittleNaruto ninjas don't run

they just disappear in a puff of smoke

user202362

you mean that they vaporize? :p

TheLittleNaruto

Well.. they have to run while puff of smoke doesn't disappear

Journeyman Geek

cough do not bring a sword to an orbital ion cannon fight.

Optimus Prime

don't have any single gold badge outside SO

wtf

Journeyman Geek

hoards all the gold badges

MY PRECIOUSESSSSSS. FILTHY ROBBBITTTSSSSSSS WANTS MY PREEECIOUSSSSSSSS

xchat - you need to be pretty damned nerdy to pick up someone on IRC.

Optimus Prime

5:43 AM

@TheLittleNaruto that's not possible. If we have reservation, the TT won't allocate the seat to anyone else

TheLittleNaruto

@OptimusPrime It is not TT who decides

it is the system which allocates

Journeyman Geek

5:57 AM

→ 4 messages moved to Chimney

Optimus Prime

← 4 messages moved from Chimney

TheLittleNaruto

@OptimusPrime You could have hyperlinked 4 messages part to to look more like the previous one

Optimus Prime

→ JourneymanGeek moved to Chimney

TheLittleNaruto

better

Optimus Prime

@TheLittleNaruto the from part won't contain it. Click on the 4 messages link in the moved message and you can see the transcript in chimney

Journeyman Geek

6:05 AM

sends @TheLittleNaruto to Ninja hell

TheLittleNaruto

escape from Ninja hell and jumps to Ninja heaven

updates fb status: eats heaven pizza at Ninja heaven..

Journeyman Geek

@TheLittleNaruto never sees it coming. Ninja Hell is... the aftermath of the pizza.

TheLittleNaruto

Now you see it ^^

This is my Ninja way! Dattebayo!

Dattebayo == Believe it

Journeyman Geek

That is the way to to toilet. Which is occupied :)

TheLittleNaruto

dafuq!

Journeyman Geek

6:10 AM

Rowan Atkinson Live - The devil Toby welcomes you to hell

►

TheLittleNaruto

punishes @JourneymanGeek for bringing up irrelevant context..

Journeyman Geek

Very relevant

(granted, its about 2 minutes and half in)

TheLittleNaruto

Maaaaaaaaaaaan! I need more tea

Magisch

6:37 AM

I still have pending flags from 2 weeks ago

TheLittleNaruto

Anyone is good at shell script ?

If yes, does it look good to you : hastebin.com/enedapecun.coffeescript ?

cc @ShadowWizard

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