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12:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Play music with an buzzer by Matlab by Acsesi.com on arduino.stackexchange.com

user202362

12:40 AM

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:o

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2:01 AM

While testing, my cat pressed Enter and wasted 50 rep: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/165846/…

The Guy with The Hat

I bet @bjb convinced your cat to do it

Those cats are probably all conspiring against your rep

user202362

2:34 AM

@PythonMaster what a great idea, getting your cat to work as your QA tester ... for free!

user202362

3:01 AM

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user202362

let 'em eat the cake ~_~

3:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to force Google Photos to sync photos to the cloud? by Vigneshkumar Manikandan on android.stackexchange.com

3:53 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Problem in syncing contacts after factory reset by Vigneshkumar Manikandan on android.stackexchange.com

4:23 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: maximizedmuscleideas.com/zyntix/ by user62271 on workplace.stackexchange.com

4:49 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: healthpluscogni.com/alpha-prime-elite/ by grespear1959 on apple.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, blacklisted user: rename file inside /system with no root access (CM13) by Vigneshkumar Manikandan on android.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Turn off suggested contacts in Gmail by Irate on webapps.stackexchange.com

5:38 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Yes, Biogenic XR surveys has now been acquainted by Undranices45 on apple.stackexchange.com

6:11 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, link following arrow in body: When a person posts something in facebook, many other people by sammyasmithe on superuser.com

7:03 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How To Fix Yahoo login Issue In Latest version Yahoo mail? by Den Walker on superuser.com

7:47 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How To Fix Yahoo login Issue? by Den Walker on webapps.stackexchange.com

Grr I want to move those messages so bad, but mobile.

8:21 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Выделение двух ячеек таблицы, и формирование ссылки by Dennis on ru.stackoverflow.com

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9:33 AM

@PythonMaster umm... Enter does not submit the bounty, I just checked.

So your cat used the mouse to click all the "Next" buttons. Smart cat! :D

10:17 AM

@JasonC appoint a pony room owner so that it can move the messages for you.

(the it was dedicated to Shadow)

11:16 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Identify this waltz from Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics anime by Acsesi.com on musicfans.stackexchange.com

12:10 PM

so many programming question on meta.... new year post toast confusion or abominable hat spam?

12:50 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Tor Browser with custom proxy instead of Tor by Corrine Ginsburg on tor.stackexchange.com

@Bart @ShadowWizard delv-pls 2 times: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/289150/… and meta.stackexchange.com/questions/289151/…

1:06 PM

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Our spammer got a face ^

Somehow looks familiar ...

and another delv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/q/289144/158100

how strange... that link seems to have rene user id at the end.... ^_^

#caught

#isnotathinghere

@shog9 a wave of spam is hitting Documentation, can you start your script again?

1:31 PM

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Q: A Terms of Service update restricting companies that scrape your profile information without your permission

Update (April 19, 2016): This change is now live. You can view the updated Terms of Service here, or read about them below. tl;dr: We’re planning to make some changes to our Terms of Service to stop companies from scraping profile information from multiple websites and spamming users. The...

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2:07 PM

@rene done and done

Thx

@Bart if you have a few spare minutes between compiles can reject spam here?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Managing multiple agile projects in a small software house by Swarna Latha on pm.stackexchange.com

@rene first already deleted, for some reason @Bart didn't vote on the second...

> There are currently no pending items to review; please check back later.

yeah, they come in bursts

I have spend 60 reject votes

30 from my main account and 30 from my sock

I wonder what is the percent of spam in Documentation drafts? IMO looks like 80% and more.

Simple rate limit will greatly reduce it.

(That last spammer did something like 10 spam drafts in minute)

2:22 PM

@ShadowWizard Yeah I don't understand why they haven't done it yet, it's been going on for a month

I can understand that they can't come up with a full solution in that time, but a bandaid fix should be possible

I also wonder why there and not in suggested edits?

Maybe it's easier to automate?

suggested edits gets a TON of spam

but a tremendous amount is rejected automatically, and feeds spamram when it does...

suggested edits are essentially one big honeypot for spammers

@rene it's running now

just destroying users

@Shog9 so.... why not take this same system and apply on documentation drafts?

6 to 8 weeks ...

but.. it already exists.. ?

if (SpamRam.TestForSpam(suggestedDraft.Body))
{
    suggestedDraft.Reject();
}

compiling code

2:28 PM

cyclic dependency error

haha

@Oded can surely solve this ;)

Well, I once had to solve that in my own stuff. After a day I moved all code into one project ... what a mess ...

wow... poor @rene

But moving all to one project is... ... not ideal. :)

@ShadowWizard yeah, that needs to happen

Why not just create another project, just for whatever is the dependency, and reference it in the other two?

@Shog9 what's stalling it? Technical problem?

2:36 PM

@ShadowWizard yeah, but I had some generic stuff that exhibited vague needs to stay together. But it really was a bad marriage in the first place ...

@rene oh well, worse things can happen... ;)

sure

indeed

@ShadowWizard let's go with "holidays"

Now time to eat wafer rolls... yum yum :D

2:44 PM

and the fact that no one else has actually laid eyes on these scripts that I'm running, and hence aren't motivated by abject terror

@Shog9 sure, but it's going for months, isn't it? Personally I don't really care as I'm not active on Documentation, but looks like others do. :)

@ShadowWizard didn't get very bad until a few weeks ago

by which time holidays were well underway

@Shog9 speaking of which, aren't you still holiday-ing today? :)

we did make a few changes (rate-limiting and blacklisting), but not universal (obvs); spamram will take longer.

@bluefeet yeah; I'm up early because I'd scheduled my car for repairs only to realize that it's a holiday still

so had to reschedule for tomorrow

@Shog9 ugh, sorry. That stinks

2:48 PM

before I had a guy with a rental car waiting for me in a remote parking lot

@Shog9 fair enough... and @rene you can call me as well when those bursts hit, I'm not active in Documentation but spam is spam, and I'll always gladly help nuking it. :)

@Shog9 don't you get a car from Stack Exchange?

pfft

In my place most hi tech companies give cars to the employees as part of the benefits. ;)

ain't that kind of job, thank goodness

job-wise, I never have to leave the house

company does pay for internet

@Shog9 oh, that's neat

2:51 PM

...which reminds me, I need to call Comcast today, since they felt it necessary to arbitrarily increase my bill by $25/mo

But those who work in the office do get a car? @Shog

No, I think they get subway passes

> Nation’s Cable Companies Announce They’re Just Going To Take $100 From Everyone

$100 per month for internet?? That's insane

heh, I pay about $80 I think, plus more for TV

which I would drop in a heartbeat if my wife didn't enjoy Nat Geographic so much

Here we pay $100 for TV+internet+ISP+telephone (not cellular)

cellular cost around $20 more

(less if you don't care to have data limit)

2:54 PM

yeah, that combo was running me about $150/mo until last month

So they raised it to $175?

yep

If it's a combo, how can you tell SE how much to give you back?

they have published rates, but SE just reimburses 100/mo for "use of home office"

used to have to expense it, which was a bit of a pain

thank New York's crazy taxes for making it easier

that's... really expensive, no?

2:57 PM

@ShadowWizard at least you have a flat mobile internet option

@Shog9 nice... here for those without a car, that's about the same money we get as "travel expenses".

(e.g. to pay back buses)

@Stijn New York is the most expensive city in the world I think, or close to it.

not here. The only ones that claims to be "flat rate" actually have monthly bandwidth limits too. Only difference is that if you go over the limits instead of paying you simply get slower up/down speeds....

like.... 56k slow.

@Derpy yeah, but we got like 5 companies, with 5 options in each... it's hard to choose. :)

@Derpy that sucks... not sure what happens here.

(never went over the limit)

the mighty usefulness of a full hd smarthphone - watch all your movies on the go with ultra fast 4g speed.....

@Derpy cool, does your modem also start making those analog dial-up sounds?

3:01 PM

rofl

Sad thing is, I still remember that sound. I can't forget it. :P

but please do it while you are connected to a wi-fi network because you only get 3gb month.

@ShadowWizard you had to so you could hear if the modem was negotiating a lower speed and if so, hang-up and dial again, hoping for a better quality route through the phone network this time ...

:)

3:23 PM

Yvette question was deleted. Good. Fun should be removed.

how could she think that we supported fun? <*sarcasm*>

We hat fun

here, I found your missing "E"

you are welcome

So, how do I disable these winter hates?

There it is. ^

... and I'm saved by @Cerbrus ... thx ...

@Cerbrus Why not put it in Cerberus? lol

The great E drought of 2017.

3:30 PM

to quote E. Roivas...

> Like it or not, believe it or not as you will. Your perceptions will not change reality, but simply colour it.

That's a risky first initial in these troubled times.

@Derpy true, by @bluefeet, but I believe Yvette asked to delete it, looks like she didn't like the downvotes.

@rene ok, script now rejects proposed changes and destroys their authors.

@ShadowWizard probably, but that just adds another color to the painting.

a painting that lacks pink but also includes a nice array of shades of black.

@Derpy and blue

Honestly though, I think "Winterbash 2016 Hats Archive" would make a decent chat room, no need for MSE question for that.

I tried doing that in 2015, didn't really work

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/955/…

Started with a couple, nobody else joined

so.... meh.

3:44 PM

@ShadowWizard chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/781/…

check it fast, because I am going to delete it since it didn't work out.

@Shog9 wonderful! You run that full time now?

@Derpy you mean register? Not sure, I'm not hunting for hats this year. Wearing what I get, but not actively trying to get them. :)

Anyway... @Shog9 I've just noticed I can onebox a deleted chat room, meaning most users who will click the link will get to a Page Not Found. Is this a bug or by design?

let's try a message from the room...

in Winter Bash 2015 Hats Archive, Dec 15 '15 at 21:02, by Shadow Wizard

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heh

4:01 PM

@ShadowWizard will be honest. The only one I really like the design of is the Hatter one - and that is mostly because of the character in the movie.

4:16 PM

@Derpy and you got that hat?

@ShadowWizard no. Not really going to try to get a question posted at the required time. And that is, assuming that the secret hat list lists the correct trigger in the first place

4:36 PM

hmm....

@rene it'll run until I close the tab or get logged out

@ShadowWizard most chat permission checks operate on the author, so if you have access to the room then that makes sense.

5:00 PM

Today's xkcd comic (Appliance Repair):

[holding up a three-phase motor] As you can see here, the problem is that the humidifier I took this from is broken.

5:20 PM

@Shog9 but for posts and comments it was changed a while ago.

@ShadowWizard posts & comments are main-site; no access to deleted stuff from chat period.

5:35 PM

!!/alive?

@Undo plz send teh coffee

!!/reboot

Goodbye, cruel world

5:52 PM

@Shog9 hmm... there's some sense in this. So, by design.

user340193

6:31 PM

What do I do if a question I asked has like, 6 or 7 answers that are good?

user340193

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Q: Does Java have a "private protected" keyword?

Some references I have seen refer to a keyword in Java called private protected (both words together): private protected someMethod() { } One of the pages I found referring to this is here. My school lesson also referred to this keyword (and said it exists). Using it, however, results in an e...

user340193

Do I not accept any, or accept the first one? They are all deserving of rep :D

user315433

Give rep to all of them, with upvotes.

user315433

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Q: Which answer do I accept if I have multiple correct answers?

I asked a question that turned out to have multiple correct answers. How do I pick between them to determine which to accept? Edit: All of the answers were different. They were not the same answer given multiple times. Here is the question.

discussion accepted-answer

user315433

And a bunch linked to that.

9:16 PM

Looks like the Documentation spammer went to bed?

2 hours later…

user315433

10:54 PM

"To interrupt a program, press Ctrl-C. To copy its output, press Ctrl-C while having it selected." What could go wrong?

11:05 PM

Use a mac.

user315433

Many more things could go wrong with that.

11:41 PM

But will they?

user315433

They won't, because I'm not going to use a mac.

What OS do you use?

user315433

Windows at work, Chrome OS at home, Ubuntu remotely on AWS

The Guy with The Hat

So basically everything but Mac

You use a browser as an OS?

bleh

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