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12:20 AM

Although I linked to one site as an example, I think this is of strategic importance to Stack Overflow Inc. and sites that it wants to grow, and the principles apply to all sites. Stack Overflow Inc. ignores this to its peril. — Aaron Hall 46 mins ago

Shog9

Why do I feel like that question wasn't sincere?

As though you might fancy yourself a system lord of the internets

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Aaron Hall

I thought an important rule of SO was not to question the sincerity of the questioner. Nevertheless, know it was an intent to sincerely share my knowledge, Q&A style.

I also would have thought that of all the Stack Overflowers, you'd like it the most.

Shog9

12:37 AM

@AaronHall little bit heavy-handed. Folks don't usually say "there's nothing wrong, I just don't like it".

For a different approach to the same problem, see:

120

Q: A Close Vote is not a Super-Downvote. Please don't use it as one

So, yesterday a dumb question was asked.. It was closed as Not A Real Question in less than an hour, and reopened mere minutes later. This isn't the first time that this has happened. It usually results in lots of arguing and acrimony and generally all comes out of a simple misunderstanding. The...

Aaron Hall

I'm just trying to be a selfless advocate for Stack Overflow. I think it provides a societal good, not unlike Wikipedia or Google or Twitter. There are a lot of stakeholders, but the only stakeholder my thesis offends are those too quick on the vote to close triggers (and perhaps those who don't want to offend them). When people come up with creative close vote justifications, as opposed to real ones, that reads, to me, like "I just don't like it."

Plus, don't think I'm not tempted by the same inclinations when I see questions I don't like. I'm just as human as the next guy. That post was to me as much as it was to the rest of the humans who have accounts at over 3k and moderate this site.

"People doing peopley things," I think someone said...

PythonMaster

1:00 AM

Quick question, are users only allowed to suggest 20 tag wiki edits per day? If not, what is the limit (I cannot edit anymore after 20)?

hichris123

46

A: Rate limit suggested edits

As of a few seconds ago, this limit is now active network-wide: at-most 20 pending suggested edits per editor on beta sites at-most 5 pending suggested edits per editor on graduated sites These limits are based on my analysis of the speed at which edits are generally approved and the number o...

If you have 20 tag wiki edits in the queue, I do question the quality of the edits. Perhaps they're great... but make sure you're actually improving them.

PythonMaster

@hichris123 Some minor but crucial edits in my belief

And at this time, usually the only user online is me (at least at LL.SE

hichris123

You're editing in links to tags? First off, there's markdown for that: [tag:somerandomtag]. Second, I'm not sure that's the most vital thing in the world... few people even read tag wikis, so...

PythonMaster

At least they're not empty

Shog9

eh, give it a bit

The other reason for rate limiting is so that the next moderator to wake up doesn't look at the queue and decide they hate their life, your life, and lives in general, and if there's work to be done best start at the source of the problem.

I mean, y'all do have mods named Quill and Hatchet after all. Best to be careful.

PythonMaster

1:15 AM

They don't seem to be bothered by reviewing though

Shog9

well, see how many days you can feed 'em lots of 20 before they get bothered then

if they're fine with it, no worries

PythonMaster

Well I do have pythons at my command so...

JamesENL

Python isn't that great

Just call Samuel L Jackson......

PythonMaster

I mean the snake python not the language Python

JamesENL

I stand by my second statement

Shog9

1:23 AM

I was hoping you commanded an aging troupe of comedic actors. Oh well.

user202362

1:48 AM

In china, contemplating writing a blog: days without google and youtube

user202362

Chinese intranet so slow, I suspect they manually handle web requests from suspicious PCs/laptops one by one

hichris123

2:17 AM

sigh, migrated to meta just for a rejected migration. Wasted 10 people's votes there... meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/335386/…

I mean, wouldn't it have been easier just to edit it on meta or leave it as is?

hichris123

2:58 AM

Is today Shog on Meta day or something?

JamesENL

3:49 AM

It's always Shog day on meta

Derpy

9:04 AM

"Dear Microsoft.
Since most of my time spent using Visual Studio is going wasted by looking at a stuck IDE and an hourglass icon, could you at least replace it with some nice animation instead? Something cute, like some kitties playing with a yarn ball?"

SilentKiller

Good Adternoon

Bart still having same dp same as Jan too..

and eating spams too

lol

Derpy

@SilentKiller does this mean that you got the reference?

SilentKiller

no. :/

Bart

9:21 AM

cough Ultima 6 cough

Derpy

9:32 AM

@Bart then, you should have replied with something like "Welcome to the secret cheater menu" instead ;_;

But maybe...should I have said that to Shog instead?

Jason C

1:22 PM

→ 44 messages moved to Chimney

@Shog9 The last time I did a peoply thing to another person I got slapped. In retrospect it may have been of dubious peopliness.

@SilentKiller Lol.

Man...

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Q: Shortcut or button for copying posted code from Stack Overflow

I might just be lazy, but do you ever find it tiresome to select all the source code from a large post on SO to copy it? I would like a feature, possibly a Firefox extension but preferably a JavaScript script, for automatically copying source examples to the clipboard. It's no big deal for a smal...

discussion feature-request source-code

So many upvotes, so few status tags.

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1:55 PM

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Bart

@JasonC a bit rough on the moves there :D

Derpy

2:07 PM

@JasonC btw, don't really care if you move the joke about U6, but you may want to clean up all the related messages too since they now don't make any sense.

Aaron Hall

2:22 PM

Maybe you could argue that I was making the perfect the enemy of the good, but I think that taking a minute to fix problems in questions is far superior to CV and "next!" Basically, the 5 CV's on that question completely missed the actual question. Too many babies are getting tossed out with the bath water. But at this point, my level of caring is way too low to go on further about it.

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2:36 PM

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Jason C

@Derpy I like that it doesn't make sense now. Anybody bored enough to read this tavern transcript in the future, yet OCD enough to be paying attention to it, deserves a good head-scratching.

In fact, here, let me make it even more confusing for you. Let me know if this helps.

Derpy

@JasonC not really? scratches head since, you know, I was the one that posted the reference in the first place

Jason C

@Derpy Totally unrelated: Can you do me a favor and post an awesome haiku, one line per chat message?

Derpy

ユニコーンは

雪にきらめく

の冬の兆候

Jason C

You probably thought I was going to move one of the lines. Anyways, thanks for the haiku.

Something about unicorns, so Google says.

Derpy

2:46 PM

@JasonC nope, I just wanted to troll you with something in mixed hiragana and katakana

and in the meantime, having an excuse to re-post the old haiku I wrote years ago

Jason C

My knowledge of Japanese is 0 so your troll was wasted. But I trust you so: Damn you for trolling me with mixed ... hagrariana ... and katkaaaans!

Derpy

> ユニコーンは
雪にきらめく
の冬の兆候

Yunikōn wa
yuki ni kirameku
no fuyu no chōkō

The Unicorn
glittering in snows
sign of winter

it was from Winter Bash 2012. Full story in the link for anyone interested.

should match the actual rules for an haiku.

in a way, it even has the required seasonal theme.

Stijn

Didn't stackoverflow.com/review/close/history use to show only your own history? Did they change it to show the history of all voters, is it a bug, or has it always done this?

Bart

It's a 10k privilege

Part of "Access moderator tools" stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools

rene

3:10 PM

@Stijn at the bottom there is a link my review history to get back the pre 10K view.

Stijn

3:32 PM

@rene ah, thanks :)

Bart

3:50 PM

I'm looking into .net Core. Does IPAddress no longer exist under it?

Stijn

@Bart I think it still does, let me have a look in one of my playground projects

It should be in the System.Net.Primitives assembly, under the System.Net namespace.

#region Assembly System.Net.Primitives, Version=4.0.10.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a
// C:\Users\stijn\.nuget\packages\System.Net.Primitives\4.0.11\ref\netstandard1.3\System.Net.Primitives.dll
#endregion

using System.Net.Sockets;

namespace System.Net
{
    //
    // Summary:
    //     Provides an Internet Protocol (IP) address.
    public class IPAddress
    {

Bart

Okay, let me have a look. Get some errors when porting

Hmm, something seems borked.

Stijn

Which netstandard version are you targetting?

Bart

4:06 PM

Look at some of the references, 1.0 or 1.1

Stijn

I have something like this, setup of this project is only a couple months old.

{
	"version": "1.0.0-*",
	"dependencies":
	{
		"NETStandard.Library": "1.6.0"
	},
	"frameworks":
	{
		"netstandard1.6":
		{
			"imports": "dnxcore50"
		}
	}
}

there's a wiki page somewhere on the corefx repo that lists the API surface per version, and I think there's also a website where you can search

Bart

Myeah, I'll have a look. All the wonderful namings and versions don't make it easy to find what you want :D

Thanks anyway

Stijn

no worries

yeah the versioning is a nightmare, documentation of a few months old cannot be trusted any more

Bart

4:25 PM

Oooh, seems that I have a nice port to do of all my magic reflection-based code generation. At least it seems straightforward

ProgramFOX

4:41 PM

@Bart I checked on my .NET Core project, it's System.Net.IPAddress.

oh that's said already :P

anyway I can confirm it

Bart

5:06 PM

Myeah, somehow the project got borked apparently

That works now

Thanks

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6:42 PM

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rene

6:54 PM

sd f