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bjb568

12:02 AM

@gunr2171 Sounds like a problem that doesn't exist on DevDoodle!

gunr2171

: (

Santa Claus

@Undo amazing its/it's catch :)

Undo

12:20 AM

:)

tchrist

12:36 AM

Did you know that undo is nudo inside out?

Anonymous

o.O

tchrist

And opnu downside up.

SNAFU

Update: the partial Stack Overflow chat and websockets outage earlier today was due to a large-scale BGP hijack. http://www.bgpmon.net/large-hijack-affects-reachability-of-high-traffic-destinations/

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 23, 2016 at 12:36 AM in reply to Nick_Craver

hichris123

@SNAFU Huh, maybe that was why my internet went out.

tchrist

1:30 AM

Public display of affection

Public displays of affection are acts of physical intimacy in the view of others. What is an acceptable display of affection varies with respect to culture and context. Displays of affection in a public place, such as the street, are more likely to be objected to, than similar practices in a private place with only people from a similar cultural background present. Some organizations have rules limiting or prohibiting public displays of affection. Physical affection has been defined as "any touch intended to arouse feelings of love in the giver and/or the recipient." == HistoricalEdit == ��2�...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Unicode boogers ^^^^^^^^^^^

I just don't understand: how hard can it be?

user202362

user202362

animals do it all the times

bjb568

@tchrist Never happens with Node.js.

With Node.js we have this useful notion called the "character"…

Quill

Wikipedia runs on PHP ;p

bjb568

That's the problem, right there.

user202362

1:51 AM

the problem is that the definition of chars/strings are getting more confusing over the years

tchrist

@Telkitty Example?

I suspect rather than some people have merely gotten it wrong.

user202362

right, I am not too familiar with PHP, but in C++, there is string, then there is CString, and there is wstring

user202362

in fact even before unicode was widely accepted, borland C++, Visual C++ & C++ (on linux for example) all had their own string libraries

user202362

and over the years it gets more confusing because now everything has to support unicode

tchrist

You know, that's all very complicated.

There are code points and sequences of code points.

See how easy that is?

People who confuse bytes with characters are equally apt to confuse integers with pointers, with equal misfortune in both cases.

user202362

2:02 AM

well, not everyone is good with programming like you are with perl

tchrist

You wouldn't know.

hichris123

@tchrist Chrome on Windows will now have proper font fallback. :D

Live in M52... so a couple months to stable.

tchrist

@hichris123 Mirabile visu

Wonder of the ages and cipher of the century.

All things come to those who wait.

Especially tips.

user202362

I am amazed at the lacking of effort to standardize char/string across languages/different compiler & interpreters

tchrist

If you let a code point stand for a character and a sequence of code points stand for a string, what does that gain you?

user202362

2:10 AM

you would have thought the same string of binaries should display the same thing regardless of what language you are using or what OS/browser it's displayed on right

tchrist

And what does it not get you?

@Telkitty Um, no.

You misunderstand.

Display is irrelevant.

Why doesn't my vt100 display colors, eh?

user202362

it's very relevant, because eventually most programs are made by humans for humans

user202362

did I say most, I mean, pretty much all of them

tchrist

"Display" is a user problem not a programming one.

user202362

misinterpretations arise from displaying the same thing in different forms

tchrist

2:12 AM

Concrete examples, or it didn't happen.

user202362

@tchrist then stop complaining about ��2� :p

tchrist

THAT is a programming bug.

It has nothing to do with display.

If you chop a "w" in half, should you be left with a "v"?

Somebody seems to have thought so.

Characters are atomic: they cannot be split in two.

Somebody forgot that.

hichris123

@tchrist Now for color fonts... maybe I can fix this one. Probably not - everything's pretty complicated.

user202362

yeah someone put in an entry in 32 bit database and now it has rolled over to a 64 bit database and incorrect things are display, we should blame it on the programmers because damn, why can't they think ahead for a decade

tchrist

I apologize that you do not understand this.

But not that I shall spend no more time on it.

user202362

2:20 AM

user202362

emoji on different systems

hichris123

@tchrist You do remember who Telkitty is, right? :P

user202362

hush :p

tchrist

@hichris123 Clearly something royal from a döner kebab shop.

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