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user259867
12:00 AM
!!/status
 
@HomegrownTomato Running since 22:12:00 UTC (108 minutes)
 
!!/apiqueue
err what's the command
!!/queuestatus
 
math.stackexchange.com: 4
buddhism.stackexchange.com: 1
hermeneutics.stackexchange.com: 1
ru.stackoverflow.com: 1
mathoverflow.net: 1
chinese.stackexchange.com: 1
superuser.com: 2
english.stackexchange.com: 1
opendata.stackexchange.com: 1
webmasters.stackexchange.com: 1
skeptics.stackexchange.com: 1
anime.stackexchange.com: 1
communitybuilding.stackexchange.com: 1
scifi.stackexchange.com: 1
german.stackexchange.com: 1
music.stackexchange.com: 1
spanish.stackexchange.com: 1
workplace.stackexchange.com: 1
 
> boardgames.stackexchange.com: 1
 
Why does it wait?
 
user259867
12:07 AM
!!/apiquota
 
@HomegrownTomato 9922
 
user259867
Just rolled over at 0:00 UTC, it seems.
 
user259867
@bjb568 10000 requests / day only go this far.
 
Does it run out often?
 
user259867
It would run out every day without queueing.
 
12:08 AM
If it didn't batch requests, it would
 
What's the average reqs/day?
 
user259867
@bjb568 You can get some approximation yourself in ~23 hours, !!/apiquota does not require privileges. Nobody's keeping stats afaik.
 
I'll forget.
 
user259867
Me too. So this will remain a mystery.
 
user259867
But last time I looked into this, it was pretty tight. Smokey developers optimized the queues carefully.
 
12:11 AM
Can SE increase the quota for specific users?
 
probably not
 
user259867
Maybe in principle, but it's unlikely they would actually write separate logic for Smokey.
 
user259867
It'd be possible to have Smokey2 with separate key, but I'm not sure if it will help if the IP stays the same...
 
It would
but that's... questionable.
 
user259867
Questionable? Say, one is a bot that hunts spam on Stack Overflow, another is a bot for the rest of SE. Makes sense.
 
12:14 AM
I'd want official blessing on that first.
 
user259867
From team@?
 
Or shog.
> If an application does have an access_token, then the application is on a distinct user/app pair daily quota (default size of 10,000). A user can have up to 5 distinct quotas at any one time, though this limit is not reflected in quota_remaining returns for privacy reasons.
Yay, that's what I remembered reading. api.stackexchange.com/docs/throttle
 
@HomegrownTomato How many requests/day does Smokey actually make on SO though.
 
user259867
Maybe not SO | the rest, but SO + AU + SU + SF + Math | the rest. Details...
 
What's that?
 
12:24 AM
You would hope Twitter made GIF sharing easier... but nope.
Here's @alioth testing out the time-lapse footage so far from #milehighops #stackoverflow http://t.co/n1AyVvHkpL
 
That laptop looks like the first one I ever used: that was over a decade ago.
 
I think it's a Y60.
... or Y50. :P
Mm, no...
 
user259867
We were cranking on these, but some other design stuff that was more time sensitive slowed the rollout a bit. You should see these picking up pace again pretty soon. — Jaydles ♦ 32 mins ago
 
TIL the GPS on my phone still works on airplanes.
Its so much fun to follow the google maps satellite view.
 
:D
It'd switch off after an altitude/speed cutoff tho.
I think they're making it altitude && speed, and it used to be altitude || speed.
 
12:29 AM
Nope. Says 37000 ft, 483 mph.
 
(because ICBM scares, of course)
@JasonC bah, that's nothing
 
user259867
It's some kind of a statement about Data Science site that the resident SE Data Scientist has no activity there (compared to 38K on Stack Overflow and 4K on Cross Validated)
 
Another day on the grindstone
 
12:58 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: excel formula for oranizing data by cale on superuser.com
 
1:08 AM
sd tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu tpu
 
@Dronehinge You can only execute three commands at one time.
 
user259867
> I am super excited to join @StackExchange! Thank you all for the best wishes and warm welcome! <3 pic.twitter.com/Ytt7wn5CrJ -- Kirti at 5:48 PM - 16 Jun 2015 via Twitter
 
@SmokeDetector "only execute three" → "execute no more than three" or "execute at most three"
only is a weak word, not good for error messages
 
status-who-cares
 
status-everybody-cares
 
1:16 AM
> Your pitiful capabilities end at three concurrent commands.
> Legends tell of those who can execute more than three commands at once, but you are not legendary.
> Guess who gets to execute a fourth command? NOT YOU!
 
status-shog-cares-so-hide-the-women-and-children
 
@Doorknob omg, you dyed yourself alien :(
 
No, I got in an accident with a fast-growing mold.
4 hours ago, by Doorknob
(I'm gonna make up a different story every time someone asks me that :P)
 
@Doorknob oh, i feel like a jerk now. You know you could ask on lifehacks to find solution to fix? no?
 
ah, great idea, how didn't I think of that before :P
 
user259867
1:22 AM
> My profile image is now blooming, because it is spring. :)
 
so, no meat post about e-commerce?
 
@HomegrownTomato oops
 
user259867
@Braiam Looks like they got tired of it. Not to say that this changed the quality of questions much.
 
@HomegrownTomato fixed
 
user259867
2:05 AM
My new way to find posts to close and delete: math.stackexchange.com/search?q=guys
 
@Doorknob Why the weird pic?
 
user259867
 
user259867
Okay, I'll edit a few instead of voting...
 
@Doorknob Link only answer!
 
2:21 AM
@hichris123 and here I was thinking about some Debian service (called ailoth too)
 
@Braiam heh
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector ignore-
 
2:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to remove an audio track from an mp4 video file? by beaminghappy on unix.stackexchange.com
 
sd gone-
 
@hichris123 Done ^
 
sd tpu-
2 hours ago, by Doorknob
No, I got in an accident with a fast-growing mold.
6 hours ago, by Doorknob
@Undo I got infected and turned into a zombie
There are conflicting reports, it appears.
 
3:08 AM
Jon Chan on May 27, 2015

Jon is a web developer and heads up developer evangelism efforts at Stack Exchange.

When I think about the impact that Stack Overflow has had on the world, it’s tempting for me to think about numbers: how many active users we have, how many questions are answered in a day, how many jobs get posted on our Careers platform. These are things that I, as a developer, think about on a daily basis to measure how we’re helping programmers around the world grow. But I find that these numbers are hard to wrap my head around: it doesn’t quite give me a feel for what our work is doing. What is the quality of our impact? What does it feel like at an individual level? …

Gabe Koscky on June 04, 2015

Há mais ou menos 2 anos nós fizemos uma descoberta avassaladora: nós percebemos que a maioria das pessoas do mundo não fala Inglês. E, se isso é verdade, significa que existem programadores que, pasmém, não conhecem o Stack Overflow. O choque inicial foi grande, mas depois de um copo de água com açucar nós decidimos fazer algo a respeito disso: abrir novos sites sobre programação!

Criar novas comunidades onde mesmo quem não fala Inglês possa se expressar em sua própria língua, à sua própria maneira. Afinal, ter a resposta para todo tipo de pergunta sobre programação é só metade do que faz do St …

Tim Post on June 11, 2015

Some time ago, we hired a Russian-speaking Community Manager named Nicolas Chabanovsky. He works remotely from St. Petersburg (we’re pretty sure it’s the one in Russia). In the past Nicolas was a software developer, and participated in the development of DLNA-stack at Motorola, webOS at LG Electronics and many other notable projects. What we found the most interesting about Nick is he’s one of the founders of the most advanced clones of Stack Exchange we’ve ever seen, which was ХэшКод, otherwise known as HashCode. …

Shog9 on June 15, 2015

Long-suffering readers may have noticed that, as we’ve expanded Stack Overflow into strange and exciting territories, we always start by hiring a new community manager. These intrepid souls act as emulsifiers, enabling and promoting communication between the company and the growing community. This role is just as critical for our 140+ English-language sites, where our small team works to ensure that requests and concerns are addressed in a timely fashion (6-8 weeks, give or take). Whenever possible, community managers are hired from within the community itself – after all, who knows its needs better than someone who has been a part of it? …

Abby T. Miller on June 16, 2015

Welcome to the Stack Exchange Podcast, episode #65, recorded Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at Stack Exchange Headquarters in New York City. Today’s podcast is brought to you by the Association of Airline Mile Programs and hosted by the usual suspects.

We’ll start off with the extremely important and community-relevant subject of why Joel hates frequent flyer programs. It’s a fascinating story and I can’t do it justice in summary. But I will say, for those of you who find it TOO ENTERTAINING AND DRAMATIC, that this story ends around 7 minutes into the show. 7:16 to be exact. …

 
WHAT IS WRONG WITH FEEDS NOW?
FEEDS NEEDS KICK
 
@bjb568 I visited an alien planet. (stealing-ish this one from @Dronehinge)
 
Hmm…
So why do you have that pic @Doorknob?
 
Story generation API quota exceeded.
 
So why do you have that pic @Doorknob?
So, really, why do you have that pic @Doorknob?
Why do you have that pic @Doorknob?
 
3:14 AM
Lifetime API quota exceeded. Your quota will be refilled after you die.
5
 
user259867
@Doorknob Better write a bot for random story generation. Shouldn't be hard for 1-sentence stories.
 
user259867
It seems that Feeds, being added to a room, spills out all "new" stories, considering they are new to the room.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector ignore- ot
 
user259867
@bjb568 Another possible emphasis shift: "Why do you have that pic?"
 
3:19 AM
Why do you have that pic @Doorknob?
Why do you have that pic @Doorknob?
whoops
Why do you have that pic @Doorknob? (not the same meaning)
 
Thanks @Inf!
 
user259867
One year ago today, the post How can we make First Posts review actually useful? began the road to what eventually became Triage and HIQ.
 
user259867
I observe that FP review still exists. Why?
 
user259867
I guess someone should review first answers...
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Bodybuilder Training Routine‎ by cinzaee wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
 
3:31 AM
sd tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: When can i find free oldschool runescape gold from RSorder Pandora’s Box? by rsstar on gamedev.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu
 
@Undo [:3581994] Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
^^ This person has a bunch of pending tag wiki [excerpt] suggestions that don't really help anything.
 
3:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: The kind a real value the sport intrinsically by Usman DiL08 on superuser.com
 
sd tpu-
 
4:06 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website: Why Greek morphemes over Latin, or Latin over Greek? *A Call to Lexicographers* by solid muscle on english.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
@bjb568 omg that seemed really cool sci-fi until i noticed they were running windows
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username, blacklisted user, blacklisted website: Why Greek morphemes over Latin, or Latin over Greek? *A Call to Lexicographers* by solid muscle on english.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
user259867
4:18 AM
Wait, this is the same post.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Building Tips For Hard-Gainers by jacaroxthmani mani on unix.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
the day spammers learned markdown
 
user259867
404
 
This is not a good idea, you'd probably end up being tased by security. — Dronehinge 11 secs ago
 
user259867
4:28 AM
@SmokeDetector gone-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: You to remember about my talk is this larger by lilymcmaster on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Need to build the muscle tissues? by user119722 on unix.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu- tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website: The Android app crashes when trying to upload a picture from my phone by solid muscle on meta.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
user259867
Muscle spammer discovered the existence of answers. :/
 
4:34 AM
must be a very bright new recruit
 
I just realized auto carrot syncs to iOS, so I can use my kewl Unicode! five ℝ ∞ ∫ …
Night!
 
user259867
Probably learned from the podcast about People Reached stat, which makes it possible to instantly reach many thousands of people by posting an answer to an old question.
 
Spammers need to reach people too!
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: A person they gradually deteriorated by john kenny on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu- ... and became a spammer
 
5:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: When attempting to build muscle by Gregory Avilla on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Eat meal in precise time? by cobyscolta on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu- tpu-
 
user259867
5:19 AM
@PeterJ I was just about to point to your answer in comments to this question... but perhaps you can give a better answer yourself?
 
@HomegrownTomato, feel free to go for it, I'm just on my way out the door for a while so wouldn't have a chance for a while
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Take less calories in whole day by ariodico on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Summer Skin That Is Essential Care Tips For Men by Marian D. Torres on stackoverflow.com
 
sd tpu- tpu-
 
user259867
So, between Jan 1 and Nov 10, 2014 only 10% of votes on Math were down. Now the query shows 12% downvotes (between Jan 1, 2014 and present). Still needs to be doubled.
 
user259867
... and this is where I want a read-only instance of internal SEDE.
 
5:33 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Can I use any micro USB cable to connect wireless Xbox One controller to PC? by niger on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector rpu-
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
6:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: On a word by word basis with their by karan jee on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: 5 Hot Muscle Building Tips For Extreme Muscle by Richard Brooks on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: is a foundation for you can just go out and just by sburia anora on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Windows 7 Enterprise Activation by user294615 on serverfault.com
 
sd tpu- tpu- tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
Increase the limit of simultaneous actions to at least 5. /cc @ProgramFOX
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted user, blacklisted website: Average number words per line in by karan jee on superuser.com
 
sd tpu-
 
6:29 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Tribulus terrestris expand your quality by EliteTest360 on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
blacklist candidate rpmchicagoedge.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Today, almost all doctors advised by Marilyn Malik on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
6:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Understanding Your Skin Type For Perfect Skin by Sumer Mowe on meta.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: How To Lose Weight At Home? by Stephen Thomas on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
7:06 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Altogether seasoning operational with scientific? by delixajuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@InfiniteRecursion gone
 
needs one more...
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: datagridview not updated properly by Areph_Ucil on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector tp-
 
7:53 AM
0
A: Title change from Deepweb to Deep Web?

UnihedronI agree, so I changed it.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

lol
 
did you just laugh with ur own post?
 
yes
we're all imperfect in many ways, so it's perfectly fine to laugh at ourselves
 
@SmokeDetector fp
 
@SouravGhosh Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
@SmokeDetector gone
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Feeling Cold After Weight Loss by stanely weaver on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@ShadowWizard wut?
 
@rene lol, ask @balpha ;)
 
I have only myself to blame
@ShadowWizard Oops :) "tusc" is what I always type for the tag autocomplete to bring up status-completed. — balpha ♦ 7 mins ago
 
8:07 AM
lol
 
actually @balpha that's a neat trick! :)
wonder what you use more, "tusc" or "tusd"?
 
Now that we have the tag we might as well come up with some questions for it...
 
> From the next build on, deleted messages won't be oneboxed anymore, in any case.
@balpha: That's too bad. Now when I want to show the deleted messages as a room owner, I'll have to take a screenshot, crop it, and then post that.
 
And how often does that happen?
 
8:16 AM
in Java on Stack Overflow Chat, 6 hours ago, by Yellow Skies
interesting question check it out http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30880794/matlab-issue-dealing-with-modulo-fun‌​ction-on-sparse-matrices
@rene Over twice a day is a safe bet. I'd say five times a day.
 
oh, poor @Uni
So much extra work! D:
 
I know, right?
 
yeah!
 
there has been spend 6-8 weeks at least to get that fixed, I'm not in favor of wasting progress...
 
@ShadowWizard "tusd" brings up both "deferred" and "declined" so it's pointless -- the autocomplete has to show only a single result (in which case TAB will immediately complete it, instead of only selecting one)
which is why your comment "you will suffer from your mistake for the next 24 hours" about meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tusc is so spot-on :(
 
8:19 AM
@balpha oh my, didn't think of the TAB auto complete - neat x2!
@balpha haha, so use your suppa-powers to nuke this tag even before the daily cleanup :)
 
At least the moving vote icons are gone.
I can deal with going through screenshotting and uploading.
 
@Unihedron moving? did they move?
 
@ShadowWizard meh, looking up the bunination route will take longer than the time it will save me today
as, incidently, did typing that message ;)
 
@balpha this message is recursively bad
 
stack overflow
 
8:22 AM
Delete From Tags Where Name='tusc'
@balpha ^
 
no
drop table tags
 
lol
Too many keys around
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website, repeating characters in body: How to use pills weight loos? by Ryan juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
@ShadowWizard For that I have to log in to the VPN, connect to our RDP server (not strictly necessary, but I don't like running production queries/commands directly from my machine), ensure to pick the right database, and before running the query I'd also have to check whether there are any events that may be triggered by burnination that a DB operation would skip
 
8:25 AM
@balpha don't worry, be happy :P
blame someone else if it goes wrong
 
now that I can get on board with
 
And the awesome tag engine of Marc Gravell would still have it....
 
I suppose saying that in a public chat room where the transcript is recorded just decreased my chance of getting a full time job in IT by over 20%.
 
@rene the tag engine is really an index of questions not tags, so that doesn't matter much
 
Oh, ok
 
8:27 AM
@Unihedron You're giving the tech industry too much credit in several ways...
 
...
that's dark
 
sd tpu-
 
gone now.
 
8:43 AM
@balpha oh my, then guess you'll just have to wait until the tag is auto-cleaned, or create yourself a new shortcut :)
 
or I could stop fixing bugs today
problem solved
 
You should start creating new ones so you'll have something to do tomorrow
Also, I guess this is welcome back? :)
 
yep, I returned last week
 
Hooray!
 
wondering.....
would all the skin care spam be on topic here?
2
Personal Grooming

Proposed Q&A site for personal grooming related questions like hair styling, skin care, dressing properly and other such grooming related question.

Currently in definition.

 
8:51 AM
They've moved on to keeping out predators with sturdy planks now, we're safe.
 
mean less spams onwards
 
Anyone with C, please help me in understanding the scoring in my answer stackoverflow.com/a/30883046/2173917 . What did I miss here?
 
@SouravGhosh I only like sharp C's.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: The other now over fifty percent? by lilymcmaster on superuser.com
 
gone ^
 
9:21 AM
 
@SouravGhosh I'm not a c dev but I see no flaw in your reasoning...
 
@rene Thanks. So do I. But the OP (other poster) keep saying something totally confusing. :-S Did you check the latest comment, BTW?
 
Yes, but I have nothing of value to add there. (which is more of a general rule)
@SmokeDetector ? is ru.stackoverflow.com blacklisted completely?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: JUnit test for System.out.println() by user5018912 on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
9:30 AM
@rene It's ok, thanks for your time. :-)
 
np
 
9:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Thus, we can see that a well designed human brain by user48616 on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
... can recognize spam in an instance
 
... can recognize bacon in an instant
 
... can recognize trains in an instant
 
notices that the duck has linked some rss feeds to the room
then start plotting a plan to add the Equestria Daily feed to the list
 
user202362
I am looking at all those sci fi ships, I could not help but wondering: how does that thing get off the ground?
 
9:57 AM

 Quotes and Jokes

post programming jokes, cartoons and quotes here!!
^ unfreeze plz
 
> The last message was posted 1672 days ago.
why? just create a new room....
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Solution for guitar play with backing track by surroundedbyfools on music.stackexchange.com
 
10:18 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@ShadowWizard Blacklisted user.
 
Gah, low traffic sites are annoying. Suggested edits take ages to get accepted.
 
10:25 AM
@rene gone
 
tnx
 
user202362
 
-16
Q: Why my questions on meta are deleted?

iJavaI've asked question how I can decrease my SO points to 1 and my question was deleted at once? Why? Where can I ask such question?

 
10:46 AM
@chmod711telkitty has gone so far in being a troll, that she has now become helpful again? Take it back a notch will you!
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: Change desktop background at school by annomous on superuser.com
 
^ NAA
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Service that supports add numbers after original callerid by Ustas on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Enhance Muscle Building Results by user119779 on unix.stackexchange.com
 
11:05 AM
gone ^
 
@chmod711telkitty First: unicorns are a protected species. Second: I still prefer my 'Shy plush.
 
11:15 AM
@Bart wouldn't that mean that telkitty has surpassed you?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: PHP Frameworks (CodeIgniter, Yii, CakePHP) vs. Django by sunmm on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector vlq
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: Solution for guitar play with backing track by surroundedbyfools on music.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Nitroxin What Is A Hemorrhagic Stroke? by rachmort on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Nitroxin Aneurysm Or Brain Aneurysm by rachmort on superuser.com
 
blacklist candidate fullmoviesdownloadfree.com
 
@SPArchaeologist I accept her as my overlord.
 
@Bart then the correct phrase should be "I accept her as my overlord, dood"
 
@Bart wow that was quite a polish for a turd there... too bad we can't retract offensive flags.
 
@ShadowWizard the guitar one?
 
yup
Why you polished more? ;)
 
I somehow enjoy editing ranty trolls into being constructive.
 
11:51 AM
@InfiniteRecursion thx, three of them had votes from me already
 
I hope it annoys them.
 
@Bart haha, surely it does :D
you're cruel in a special way
 
@ShadowWizard cruel for the benefit of the site
 
11:55 AM
@Bart Be a mod for the benefit of the site
2
 
@InfiniteRecursion be careful what you wish for.
 
@Bart trots carefully in the pond after making the wish
 
 
@Bart, I don't do a lot with audio but IMO that answer your edited (minus rants) is probably the best one
 

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