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… then what's going on?

ProgramFOX

but perhaps it didn't fetch Meta bodies yet

Why not?

Or maybe CW borks it?

ProgramFOX

because bodies are fetched in batches per site, and it makes an API request once there are two updated posts

5:03 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Antimagic field woes and slavery by Shroudedobserver on rpg.stackexchange.com

@bjb568 -1 or not listing every lifehack

Downvote everything for stupid reasons #LifeHack!!!

You guys are worse than the Bridge...

There are uncountably infinite lifehacks.

which is saying something.

@hichris123 What's that?

5:05 PM

The Bridge

General Arqade Chat. We tried to leave once, but the door lock...

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Oh, the room I lost faith of after StackEgg event. :)

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/17232895/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/30557870/1699210

5:24 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30543447/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30468952/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30381158/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30272353/…

@bjb568 I'm content to leave my rants to chat and small audiences, thanks.

@SmokeDetector fpu-

@JasonC It's basically a meme tho.

5:39 PM

@bjb568 Cool. So, it's basically a meme, and I'm content to leave my rants to chat and small audiences, thanks.

1 hour ago, by Unihedron

go post it, it's the new meme

Ooh good we have 2 3kers around: cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30534191/…

stack imgur isn't loading for me.

Huh… not it loads.

A: Visual Basic username password error

this:

-2

Project Settings can be set by navigating to Project Properties > Settings: username Type is string and scope is user password type is string and scope is user

pretty much directly copies my own answer, it's from the OP. is it thus NAA?

@bjb568 *now

5:46 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30425005/…

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Why does "effective. Power" text crash the iPhone OS? by King on apple.stackexchange.com

@bjb568 devdoodle.net still doesn't work.

I'm WORKING ON IT

@SmokeDetector tpu

@hichris123 Blacklisted user.

5:47 PM

Are there ever any questions in Low quality posts ?

@JonasCz sometimes

@JonasCz Not on SO anymore. All questions go to Triage/Help & Improvement.

But on all non-SO sites, LQP still has questions.

Nicael can make SO questions go to LQRQ.

cv=pls: stackoverflow.com/questions/30560611/…

Why does the filter dropdown let me filter by questions only then ?

5:49 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Events in WCF Service Architecture (Server Side) by Syed Osama Maruf on programmers.stackexchange.com

A: Why does "effective. Power" text crash the iPhone OS?

-3

It works because when the message is sent it has a hidden code that is programmed to jam the memory fast and then delete what it inserted, forcing the iPhone to basically "crash", or restart. My partner and I have solved the problem and found a solution to this. 1. Go to Settings 2. Go to Genera...

wot

Delete plz the answer below that : apple.stackexchange.com/a/189549

8 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Why does "effective. Power" text crash the iPhone OS? by King on apple.stackexchange.com

Didn't see that..

Braiam

is intelligentcompt.com in th blacklisted domains?

askubuntu.com/a/345738/169736...

6:03 PM

The images on the error page are quite funny: stackoverflow.com/error?aspxerrorpath=/questions/tagged/php You get a new one each time you reload.

… you just realized that?

Yes, I'm new here ;-) The old one showed just the cat, no ?

What old one?

@Braiam That's spam right? I flagged as spam, ublock was going bazerk on the page…

The old error page, as, like, a few weeks ago..

It's been doing that as long as I can remember…

6:13 PM

? Maybe I just saw the cat because I maybe had javascript disabled.. How many different pictures are there ?

Does anyone know a good screen recorder for linux ?

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: How to reduce large dataset for processing by Tippecanoe and upload to Mapbox by Tom Lee on gis.stackexchange.com

excessive self-promotion

6:32 PM

@bjb568 I'm not sure you're exactly helping the Tavern's image.

Fine, deleted.

user259867

> I should start making @StackExchange underwear and socks. -- Jin Yang at 11:22 AM - 31 May 2015 via Twitter

2

@AstroCB kudos

@rene It's ironic because the post I wrote to give me that extra +15 to get to that number used the phone number 555-555-5555 as an example.

user259867

6:40 PM

inb4 Stack Exchange rolls out its clothing store in NYC.

Can anyone cast a few close votes on these or these to get the close vote queue loaded for me?

@AstroCB I would be even more impressed if the badge counts were also 55 ,55, 55 ...

user259867

Without checking, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get 55 gold badges without collecting more than 55 bronze ones.

@JonasCz I recall there was a post or script that showed them all but I can't find it anymore...

user259867

Nearly all gold is preceded by bronze, and there are some bronze badges you'd get if using the site that don't lead to gold.

@Yes I'll settle for 55 gold, 555 silver and 5555 bronze, OK?

user259867

6:47 PM

Actually, I take that back. One can share 55 posts bringing 1000 unique IPs to each.

new target for me: 2K by the end of June and 10k by the end of the year.

Doable?

On MSE? Sure. On SO? only in the regex tag...

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On SO, when I can be bothered to, I've been able to max out the 200 rep limit in vb.net.

I'm 1.6K on SO, 2K by the end of June should definitely be doable, unsure about 10k by the end of the year though.

This time last year I had around 200-300 rep.

user259867

7:03 PM

The list of users with most gold badges is interesting. Apart from predictable #1, most of them get the majority of badges from asking questions: Famous Question.

user259867

But Katy Perry can take the lead in this chart any time she wants, by sharing SO posts on her Twitter account...

actually, this time last year I only had something like 115 rep, according to the graph

user259867

But there is an issue here: 70M followers would click initially, but they get bored with the stream of SO links. One only needs 1000 for Publicist. So, she should instead post a link to a server that redirects visitors to one of 70000 SO posts, distributing them so that each gets 1000 visits. Boom, 70000 gold badges.

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@SmokeDetector fpu-

7:32 PM

@Mooseman @Frank @michaelpri Is there a topic on LH meta about health-related questions already? I can't seem to find any.

In particular, the lack of citations in the answers at lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/7078/… (the AOA and other sites have specific recommendations based on long-term observations, which none of those answers really adequately address) seems to hurt more than it helps. I imagine a lot of people reading that will end up walking away with bad advice about how to take care of something as important as their eyes.

It might not be a good idea to let those questions be on LH. They should probably be on Health (or Bio in some cases) instead, since those sites are actually for those topics and have relevant policies and a knowledgeable user base.

^

@JasonC What's it have to do with lifehacks anyway?

flagged OT

@bjb568 Flag to close.

Anyways getting these questions closed (and deleted, ideally) has been a losing battle. The best I can do is try to post decent information and stop bad health advice.

Wot? (on smashingmag)

My mission seems to be changing from ridiculing the site to trying to protect the world from it.

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Christ: lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2090/… 83 upvotes? Really? I underestimated the amount of stupidity in the world. I blame the millennials.

Welp, back to ridicule I guess.

7:58 PM

@JonasCz thanks to Shadow Wizard here it is

@JasonC nooooo

If it's the millennials' fault, it's the oldpeoplegeneration anyway that's to blame for not teaching them properly.

Probably.

But I'd rather make fun of teenagers and 20-somethings.

Wait, the dict says millennials reached young adulthood ~2000… that means they're like in their 30s.

Nooooo

So somehow this becomes my fault. Great.

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8:16 PM

Generation Z

Generation Z refers to the cohort of people born after the Millennial Generation. There is no agreement on the name or exact range of birth dates. Some sources start this generation at the mid or late 1990s or from the mid 2000s to the present day. == Terminology == Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe wrote several popular books on the subject of generations and are widely credited with coining the term Millennials. Howe has said "No one knows who will name the next generation after the Millennials". In 2005, their company sponsored an online contest in which respondents voted overwhelmingly...

15y+ long span already, about time to name the next generation!

pls not Ꜳ

@rene Does flagging stuff help, as I don't have 3k ? What reason to use for leagal questions ? "Nothing to do with programming", right ?

@JonasCz It throws it into the CV queue, which puts more eyes on it.

@rene, I presume this is what you want ? @AstroCB, The "Nothing to do with programming" reason is correct one ?

@JonasCz I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about a legal issue, and not programming

here is the mother mso post

@rene If I don't have 3k and CV privs, I can't enter a custom reason, and this one is not on the list, right ?

8:29 PM

@JonasCz Yes, it does. With a couple of flags we get it in the queue and will be handled by the SOCVR room

@JonasCz Ah, that is right

Q: Why do we not have an off-topic flag for closing as off-topic?

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This applies mostly to this question, but can obviously be applied to many other situations. In case it's closed: I currently have a CSS server running and it works great, but I want to enable Zombie riot (game where you survive against waves of zombies) ... I think I have all the files ...

@JonasCz You have to check which other reason fits, otherwise choose blatantly off-topic

Tomorrow is the 1-year anniversary of that post, actually.

Huh. I unplugged my laptop charger from the wall then plugged it into my laptop and my laptop charged for a second.

Capacitors, how do they work? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@JasonC You...what?

8:36 PM

My charger was plugged into the wall but not my laptop. Then I unplugged it from the wall. Then I plugged it into my laptop to carry both things to another room. And it charged, by magic! But just for a moment.

It was... totally unremarkable. I didn't intend for this to take more than two lines of chat. Please resume your previous conversation.

... Apparently there was no previous conversation.

This is exactly the kind of situation that leads to me talking to myself.

Q: How medical is too medical?

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So apparently, we've agreed that medical questions are off-topic here, largely because accuracy matters, and we can't take the responsibility to judge serious medical issues through the SE format -- it just won't end up working well. I agree with that. However, I think that some medical question...

discussion scope off-topic

@Mooseman Ah, thanks.

@JasonC Anything from very early on a site is expected to have off vote counts.

8:55 PM

@rene, Flagged a few of the worst ones.

@JonasCz tnx

Roombatron5000

@bjb568 the BJB GEN is greatest generation for sure!

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I typed some gibberish in the search box and guess what? A php question...

4

Roombatron5000

9:10 PM

@rene i typed in some gibberish (first two attempts didn't return anything) and then to my surprise I got 1 result on my third attempt... and it was an answer of mine stackoverflow.com/search?q=akjdf%3B

Seems I'm pretty consistent with my gibberish

lol

I win

> You can only perform 30 searches within a 60 second window, please wait a moment and try again.

9:29 PM

Here's another question for those not alpha testing the new navigation: What happens when you click on mysql under "related tags" in the list of questions tagged php?

The severe flash flood weather alert I just got on my phone includes the helpful advice, "don't drown".

"How do I stay safe in a flood?" "Don't drown." Boom! Life hack!

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@KevinBrown What happens today, or what should happen?

@JasonC Well... don't.

@MadaraUchiha Assuming that the page loads, what happens today?

I will try my best to avoid drowning, if possible.

@KevinBrown It filters for php AND mysql

9:33 PM

I was planning on driving my car directly into the Hudson River but that warning is making me rethink my plan.

Questions containing both tags

@JasonC you mean, you can't walk on water?

What kind of training do they give you... wherever it is that you're from?

@MadaraUchiha Thanks, and is that different than what should happen? (just curious if I'm missing something)

No. My parents never taught me how. I always get made fun of for it.

I bet I could find out how to walk on water on lifehacks, though.

@KevinBrown No, I think that makes sense as it is.

@JasonC Well, you just concentrate your chakra on the soles of your feet

And keep a steady stream

Walking on water is easy, until you fall at least

just remembered my profile text still has the quote about walking on water

9:37 PM

@KevinBrown That is a good quote.

user259867

Posting three identical answers pitching the same product... spam? I think so. webapps.stackexchange.com/a/78645 webapps.stackexchange.com/a/78644 webapps.stackexchange.com/a/78643

@Yes Maybe, I raised an other on one of the posts, could be too a clueless user who found an answer for his initial question? Anyway the software provided seems to be rulebreaking and the questions look like dupes

@Yes Destroyed the user via a web apps mod

@SmokeDetector delete

9:55 PM

@Mooseman Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Alright, created the bug report for the "related tags" issue

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Similar (but not a duplicate) to my last question about filtering by multiple tags, I noticed that the "related tags" links no longer filter the original search by requiring the additional tag. Instead, they work the same as linking to the tag, so all questions under that tag are displayed and th...

bug new-nav related-tags

I figure when they get around to fixing one of them, they'll notice that excluding tags ([bug] -[status-completed]‌) no longer works (it ignores the excluded tag)

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Wordpress 502 Bad Gateway by Purlek on serverfault.com

michaelpri

@JasonC Not sure if you got a response yet, but that question is already on Health. I can't really do anything to it right now (on mobile and about to leave), but I do agree that it probably shouldn't be on LH. /cc @Mooseman @Frank

I tried to flag as duplicate here: apple.stackexchange.com/q/189568/55266 and was not able due to 2 accounts of the user, now it's closed as dupe, how is this possible, btw. what should I've tried?

10:10 PM

@bummi It's closed? Looks pretty unclosed to me.

user259867

@KevinBrown You're probably redirected to the target, because not logged in.

@michaelpri I just did some cleanup.

user259867

@bummi My guess: the first two users voted to close with a different reason. Then a mod voted to close as a dupe -- perhaps for mods the restriction on dupe target having an answer does not apply.

@Yes Aha, that was it. Completely forgot that happens

@Yes makes sense thank you, my comments where removed too, might be the answer

user259867

10:16 PM

@bummi Found documentation: "Moderators can override this last restriction if necessary."

@Yes thank you, controverse question ...

user259867

Yeah, people didn't like the restriction back then. I don't mind it now, except it's annoying when identical questions from the same person can't be closed because of migration or split unregistered accounts.

leads to comments and strange close votes, but these are rare cases

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: How do you make your own agar.io skins? by aaaa on gaming.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-gibberish

10:31 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu two low-quality answers there

@KevinBrown Blacklisted user.

"This is a non-issue and y'all are wasting your time" \o/ I think that applies to the whole site! — bjb568 8 secs ago

Jan Dvorak

Are you saying the site is a non-issue?

user259867

IMO, the site is an issue only in that it gets mentioned here way too often. :/

10:46 PM

btw free flags ^^^

@Yes I quite agree.

@JanDvorak the questions on the site

Yanno, why doesn't Community just auto-VLQ-flag anything bjb posts?

user259867

For balance, I'll mention another site...

From now on, please carefully curate all Lifehacks bashing. Too much will water down the hilarity.

user259867

Happy 4th birthday to Japanese Language, launched on 2011-05-31!

10:50 PM

.*･ﾟ☆ндрруヾ(＾-＾)ﾉвiятнDду☆ﾟ･*.

user259867

Still nowhere near graduation, with 4000 visits and 8.8 questions per day.

ヽ（≧ω≦）｛☆HAPPY★BIRTHDAY☆｝（≧ω≦）/

Who do you think you are, a teenage girl from generation Z?

誕生日(´∀｀人´◇｀）ぉめで㌧? ‘ﾟﾁ’ﾟﾁ(≧ω≦*）

> Birthday ('∀ person '◇) tons in ~Ome?' ° Ji ' ° Ji (≧ ω ≦ *)

10:52 PM

@bjb568 凸(｀⌒´メ)凸

:p

@hichris123 Nice.

(whoops, pressed wrong key)

Pretty much every key you press is the wrong one, @bjb.

∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨‌∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨∧∨

10:53 PM

@Yes And somehow that's almost as bad as PPCG. Though nobody will ever beat the answer ratio there

user259867

Remember when SE podcasts had a section where they'd pick a particular site to discuss?

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/30555201/3622940

^ totally the kind of question I'd flag vlq (and did)

also, cv-plz too broad stackoverflow.com/q/30552887/3622940

or unclear

user259867

I still don't know what the [minecraft] tag even means at SO. Looking at questions didn't help.

If you ever feel the explicit need to tag your programming question minecraft, something must be very wrong.

You're placing it in a context that the question should be able to stand without.

@Yes Just the tag? Oh, it's used by wannabe programmers who has never written more than 5 lines of code outside following immaterial tutorials.

(Surprisingly, a few of them has written a hello world program, so there's that new condition.)

@AstroCB I'm so tempted to change the tag description to that. :P

11:04 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30559689/…

@AstroCB Not necessarily. What if you're building a plugin that depends on some minecraft thing?

@hichris123 I'd be amazed if such a question is in mint quality.

For instance, I've seen several questions in that tag related to using minecraft-node-plugin, and they were all pretty closeworthy.

Wait, node-minecraft-server.

Quite true, but theoretically there could be a decent question like that.

No, node-minecraft-protocol. That's the one.

@hichris123 I guess that's why they don't autto-ban anyone in the field.

autto-ban? Is that a new banning algorithm? ;P

Just ban all the people, the end is near.

Meme Zone

One does not simply post a message unless it's a meme.

^ this room is about to freeze

♦ CoGro Musings

A text file for community managers to publicly muse in public....

^ this room is also about to freeze but there's nothing we can do about that and plus they're CMs, they can revive it if it's frozen.

user259867

11:11 PM

They can also talk in there while it's frozen.

11:22 PM

@hichris123 It should be narrow enough of an issue that the context of the fact that it's a Minecraft plugin shouldn't matter.

16 mins ago, by Unihedron

@hichris123 I'd be amazed if such a question is in mint quality.

^ And that, but it certainly could happen.

@AstroCB ... why? Wouldn't that mean it could only be an NPE, syntax error, ...? What if it's an issue with a minecraft API (API does some weird thing that's not in the docs, etc).

user259867

in CoGro Musings, Mar 19 at 18:13, by Tim Post

A note about this room - It's gallery because we're testing to see what we might actually end up writing on something .. more blog-ish. If you want to talk to any of us about anything we've posted here, we have a site for that. Just tag it discussion, and link to the transcript.

user259867

Apparently, after two months the tests came back negative.

@hichris123 Fair enough, but it seems unlikely that it would come up too often (definitely not 959 times).

I agree with you there. But then again, the questions are similar to a lot of other SO questions... (sigh)

user259867

11:27 PM

@hichris123 Bill the Lizard voted to close that one before you did...

@Yes Suspicious? :P

user259867

No, just an unfamiliar sight of him voting and not being the last one.

Q: Can we blow away some of the Tumbleweeds?

ah yeah. :(

user259867

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I've had some spare time on my hands recently, so I've been looking at the Tumbleweed badge and wondering if there's anything we can do about this growing list of mostly unanswered questions. The badge has been awarded well over half a million times now, which is a pretty significant portion of ...

discussion unanswered-questions tumbleweed

user259867

Bill isn't quitting cold turkey.

11:35 PM

Wait wait wait... some people don't like watching C-SPAN?! — hichris123 9 secs ago

who knew.

I thought that was on at every dinner!

user259867

An issue with focusing on the badge is that it's awarded once per user. This makes sense as far as badge-giving is concerned, but it eliminates from consideration a large pool of questions that were just as much overlooked, but were not the first question by that user to be overlooked. — Yes 1 min ago

user259867

I used to pay attention to Tumbleweeds on Math until I realized that.

11:51 PM

d00d…

That's a lot of ads.

So it turns out deep frying steak for lunch didn't give me the boost of energy that I was counting on. Who would've guessed.

user259867

That could be a question for... Personal Productivity or Health or Physical Fitness?