11:06 AM
NAAs are gone :)

Thanks to @MartijnPieters :) @Inf

Am I correct in declaring this off-topic?

@rene agreed and vtc

tnx
and I'm out...

11:24 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Bodybuilding - How to Accelerate Your Muscle Growth by katlin meri on meta.stackexchange.com

spam still waiting...

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HP PROLIANT DL360 G6 by Neil on serverfault.com

@PatrickHofman :O
He handles a lot of my flags nowadays :)

@PatrickHofman They make a great mod :)

Indeed. Good work @MartijnPieters

11:35 AM
^ casually pings a busy mod twice :P

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keywords in title, url in title: http://www.smaart5th.in/packers-and-movers-in-chennai/ @ Packers and Movers in Chennai by Richa singh on workplace.stackexchange.com

@Unihedron I think the appreciation will get him through the flag queue faster ;)

powerup!
Idea: Make a bot that appreciates mods.

@Unihedron Noooooo

but... the more the merrier

11:39 AM
Users make more bots and Shog makes more ROs :P

More ROs the merrier :P
since the existing ones have mitigated work

lol

meh, I can't get that badge :(

in that case
OMG someone downvoted my answer without giving an explanation meta.stackexchange.com/a/256661/266094

@Braiam drain rep in thousands, you can get the badge
@Unihedron Yay! Finally someone complains about a downvote :D

11:45 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MAKING EXECUTIBLE SOFTWARE USING C++ by King Bendner on stackoverflow.com

@SmokeDetector tp

@Unihedron Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

@SmokeDetector
OP needs autocarrot

11:48 AM

@JasonC Basically a CSRF token.

@InfiniteRecursion that reminds me, is lpapp still suspended? :D

> This user has been temporarily suspended by a moderator and cannot chat for 52 days.

♪ ♫ It's the fi-nal con-quest ♪ ♫

@InfiniteRecursion ooh, almost there

11:51 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How can I change my c++ code to use classes instead of struct by subzerok on stackoverflow.com

♪ ♫ Yes ♪ ♫

interesting, his SO suspension will end only in Dec 29.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: How to print do avbffffffffffffsdfsf by james on stackoverflow.com

@ShadowWizard yeah, that came long after the chat suspension
They are not the result of the same suspension.

@SmokeDetector delvoted

11:55 AM
Why do I feel that james and subzerok are the same user?

@Bart sure about that? Wasn't it his whining about his suspension that caused the chat ban?

@ShadowWizard the chat suspension was for bothering everyone (employees included) about everything all the time iirc.
Shog posted a warning before in chat

ah, OK. thanks!

Anyway, it's still nice and quiet here, so let's enjoy that.

status-too-boring

@ShadowWizard not sure if that's the kind of "exciting" I would like in here again.
Then again, I'm not that active in here any more, so who knows what consensus is by now. :P

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: 1-855-867-5844 Canon Pixma Printer Technical Support Phone Number # Canon Printer Tech Support Phone Number ## USA/Canada? by Kavz Singh on stackoverflow.com

@Bart of course not, can't say I enjoyed all the drama dear Mr. Papp provided, but there are other ways to make things less boring here :D

12:03 PM
@SmokeDetector scroll all the way down just to use the keyboard shortcuts...

@SmokeDetector tpu SPAM

@InfiniteRecursion Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

@InfiniteRecursion arg! Close that fast!fast!fast!fast!fast!
why was that visible to that many users?!

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: @@@@~~%% (1)-855-709-2847@@@@~~%% Kodak printer driver support number Kodak printer toll free number by Mohit Yadav on stackoverflow.com

@SmokeDetector tpu

12:07 PM
@Doorknob Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

@Braiam because android is a high traffic tag full of folks who don't waste time cv-ing or downvoting

@InfiniteRecursion I was asking because the question was still in triage, so it's supposed to have "limited visibility"

@Braiam I saw it on the front page

@Braiam for?

12:17 PM
@DarkAshelin general software?

@InfiniteRecursion I don't think so. It's a guy from IBM posting some work related stuff. Not really advertising.

Thanks, I won't flag it.

@InfiniteRecursion I did by accident :(
When will the 'retract my flag' be implemented? Argh...

@InfiniteRecursion blame question

12:25 PM
@PatrickHofman post a FR first. Then wait 6-8 weeks

> is it possible to use WebRTC libraries on mobile applications directly?
Yes
Maybe
No

cv'ed

@InfiniteRecursion I like their avatar

12:27 PM
@Unihedron It must be there already.

oh, you assumed?
!xkcd when you assume

@Unihedron Unrecognized command. Use !xkcd commands for a list of commands.

!xkcd find when you assume

Patrick answered the trollish question :O

12:29 PM
Are these chats logged?

for the public, infinitely?

there's a transcript, for every non-deleted message

mkay

12:30 PM
@KnocksX welp

So don't say stupid stuff. That's why we are all so sensible and well-behaved.

yes
hence the question

@InfiniteRecursion I was going to answer too but it just got closed :(

@Bart BUT, BUT... UNICORNS!

@Braiam well, okay, there's that. But that is all.

12:32 PM
@Unihedron Find better questions to answer

ahxd it
@InfiniteRecursion but... I want a silver badge in discussion :D

253

I'm wondering (since it just happened to me), is it possible to "cancel" ("undo", "delete", whatever) a flag I just raised if I misclicked it, so the mods won't waste time? I looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature.

"yo u kant"

12:39 PM
@Unihedron +1

> Your browser approached me (at /) with the method "GET". I only allow the methods HEAD, OPTIONS here.

@Unihedron Edit and fix the question...lazy answerers...pfff

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How to correctly rearrange arraylist to be able to draw from it by user3564869 on stackoverflow.com

12:43 PM
@AndrewT. Yay! Drama :P

@SmokeDetector euh...
@SmokeDetector fpu, mentioning user with Hangeul char

@AndrewT. Registered answer as false positive and whitelisted user.

euh...

@SmokeDetector ignore, someone fixed the formatting (but left the title...)

12:49 PM

@AndrewT. guy edited the title

\o/

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Cannot delete site collection in Central Administration by Gabe Worden on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

12:56 PM
my answer is at -6 and ChrisF's NAA is at +4; this is why we can't have nice things :P

@Unihedron I downvoted and left a comment
Chris's answer isn't a NAA IMO

@InfiniteRecursion an eternity 12 minutes ago

@SmokeDetector ignore, NAA though

@Mooseman "on a privately" isn't proper english

12:59 PM
status-fixed

also the OP did remove the private part themselves so you're not doing any good adding it back
@InfiniteRecursion I downvoted and left a comment

Yay, trollish post got nuked..
36 mins ago, by Infinite Recursion
Troll? http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/294690/2982225

Why edit war?

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected, repeating characters in title: @@@@@@@@@ 1-855-709-2847########### Brother printer customer service number,, Brother printer customer care toll free number by Funk Funk on stackoverflow.com

@Unihedron well, it's not semi-private either, in my opinion so still wrong. Flag might be semi private, since only other moderators can see it. But something which is listed in public? — Shadow Wizard 42 secs ago
@ShadowWizard: I'm not sure what you expect me to say other than "I appreciate your opinion but opinions are subjective, and so is the description of the visibility of a discrete room".

1:09 PM
@SmokeDetector tpu spam

@InfiniteRecursion Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

@Unihedron I don't expect you to say anything, was just adding my opinion which is the reason for downvote.

Lesson of the day: don't answer a low-quality confusing question

If you judge the usefulness of my answer based on a subjective description, I don't expect to please you.

1:11 PM
What's the height of a cone to minimize its volume if it's circumscribed in a sphere of radius 3?

@InfiniteRecursion not sure how you concluded that
the question was far from low quality or confusing

3

I checked this question but didn't fully understand it. I know that the volue of a right circular cone is $V = \frac{1}{3}\pi x^2h$ I know that I must take the first derivative and set it equal to zero. Which will find the maxium. My problem is how to deal with the variable $h$, the height? ...

@bjb568 Have fun. Symmetry won't help you here, so calculate the height and radius from the cross-section

> I know that the volue

Ugh, why do I suddenly have a guess on the said mod...

1:16 PM
?

@Unihedron confusing (because too many edits) and low quality because OP did not mention any scenario where a private message is required. The answer differs as per the situation. The mode of contacting mod privately during suspension is to reply to the mod message, sometimes flagging is the proper way (e.g this guy is rude and abusive, suspend him please), sometimes it's via Meta (in case of disputed flags etc). Some scenarios may warrant using "contact us"
no one knows what the OP intends to ask

@InfiniteRecursion close it then

1:18 PM
ok

and we'll reopen - I agree with @Uni it's not unclear

low quality can mean the case is ambiguous / not nicely defined, but not that the need was non-existent - that's simply off-topic, nothing makes it LQ

maybe not popular, but not unclear
Still no close reason "This question is too unpopular"

"confusing (because too many edits)" -> I'm pretty sure the edits are caused by the two specific editors warring over "privately" or not "privately", and fixing grammar mistakes. That's what edits are for anyway. If by that logic I'm going to claim wikipedia posts are confusing.

edited again, and now it's explicitly that he wants a 1-on-1 conversation with mod.
I don't think that'd be constructive.

1:22 PM
I think it's unclear because 4 very aware and experienced users have posted 4 completely different answers to the same question. Mooseman removed his post, but I have no doubt that each of the answerers know the functioning of the site very well. The question is confusing them, hence unclear.

@AndrewT. maybe not, but he has the right to ask if it's possible and how.

@SmokeDetector fpu

@cybermonkey Registered answer as false positive and whitelisted user.

5 mins ago, by Unihedron
@InfiniteRecursion close it then

@InfiniteRecursion "How can I contact a moderator in private" - how exactly can this be confusing?
Others chose to divert into different altenatives, since it's not possible.

1:24 PM
@Unihedron I cv'ed it
"best way" is relative

Then Uni's answer is almost perfect (but I think mods can join private chat room too?)

@AndrewT. i'm glad one person is sane in this room

Yes, uni's answer is best in terms of speed..

@AndrewT. there is no such thing as "private chat room".
(except for SE employees)

@ShadowWizard Yes there is and only mods can create it.

1:27 PM
@Unihedron but other mods can still see it --> not private

@ShadowWizard Now I'm going to go create a chat room called "private chat room" :)
4

@LynnCrumbling post link here, we'll see how private it is :D

@ShadowWizard Must I repeat again? My description "semi-private" is highly subjective and the "semi-" here accounts for "theoretically private, but not really". I'm not ticked off by the fact that you are a user of opinions and are not afraid to voice them, but that you're expecting me to share your sentiments when I clearly don't.

YAY! Another bikeshed discussion :D

1:30 PM
@Unihedron I wasn't aware that any mod can create private chat room, but it's totally different from what you suggested in your answer, which is an ordinary public chat room. Anyway, such thing requires the moderator to reach out to the user, that's totally not what the question is about.

@ShadowWizard I'll rename it to "partially obfuscated semi private xxx_dont_click_here_xxx room"

@Unihedron "no, you don't have to repeat again because those are two different things".
better? :)
public chat room == not private, not semi private
private chat room == semi private, equivalent for flagging since any mod can see/access it
(only my personal opinion above, not expecting anyone to share it)

*here

1:36 PM
@Unihedron yes, and this all boils down to something @rene knows well: "we agree to disagree".

@ShadowWizard I'm not sure what you'd achieve with those equality signs.

but rene gets ice-cream...

@Unihedron umm, achieve? replace with "is" if you like.
userscript can work too :D

The only reason I think Uni's answer is right because it's the most direct you can try to contact them. Flag can be seen by random mods first. The same as "Contact us". Not that I endorse his approach, because... reason.
Let's just agree to disagree then. I'm out of this discussion.

@InfiniteRecursion yeah, he's special ;)

1:38 PM
@ShadowWizard You're super confusing. I'll just walk away now.

@Unihedron the characters "==" in programming means equality. Guess I'm programmer for too long.

@AndrewT. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

@ShadowWizard Yes, and return obj == expectedValue1, expectedValue2; returns expectedValue2.
Guess I'm not a programmer long enough then.

@Unihedron not in Ruby

sigh

1:40 PM
@JanDvorak I don't use Ruby.

@JanDvorak remember... the universe is hacked in perl

Ostensibly, it was Lisp

@LynnCrumbling starred for the wisdom contained in those words

It's not important to win, but to humiliate your opponent

1:44 PM
@AndrewT. The only reason I think mine was the right answer is because no one else came up with a solution that addressed the question.

Why nobody suggested that "there's no way to contact a moderator privately"...

Shadow's's touched it slightly: no you can't.

@InfiniteRecursion Have you seen the movie?

Look, I knew no one reads things you over-emphasize, which is why I didn't even make it bold.

1:46 PM
THIS IS A SECRET MESSAGE FOR YOU

hahaha

pͫ̉ͪ̾ͧ̄̒ͥ̀ͮͪ̑͏̙̤̼͍̬̫̘̟̤̩̝͎͟ī̵̡̧͕̙̥̱̝͎̘̲̔͆͐ͮ̐̂̔͋̾͟z̵̵̛̮̬͈͕̬͙̝̯͔͓̘͕͍̞͖̭̰̺̈̔ͬ͊͘͝z̿‌​̵̺̯̲̱͇̖̫͔̙͖̬͇̎͛ͩͬ̀̄̀̃ͦ͒̾͆͘ͅȁͯ͗ͦ̾ͣ̓͊ͫ̓͋ͯ̀͆̑̔̿̎ͦ͏̧̰͚̠̬͖̖͙̟\

I'll just sum up my day with the knowledge that 13 people made poor judgement based on personal preferences / can't read. That's my lesson. :P

@LynnCrumbling Yes

bump

1:50 PM
@peterh Please read the FIRST line of my answer, which says that YOU CAN'T. I've had to state this several times in chat rooms in discourse of why I believe my answer is correct. — Unihedron 25 secs ago

in ​, 4 mins ago, by Mooseman
bump

bwnp

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username: ㉫BAMWARCOM강남오피㉫강남건마 .분당오피～밤워～ᴅ수원건마 by bamwar3 on writers.stackexchange.com

Uh oh.........
@SmokeDetector tputputputputpu

@AndrewT. Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

1:53 PM
flexes spam flagging finger Bring on.

@JNat ping just in case it continues

bamwar again :/

Again?

yes
hiya @nic :)

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: android GoogleAccountCredential problem by Ibrahim DELLAL on meta.stackexchange.com

1:54 PM
@Unihedron You have right, sorry! Yes, your answer is also a realiistic possibility in most cases. — peterh 51 secs ago
OP and one person in this room is sane, I am happy with that

@SmokeDetector no u

@Unihedron, you should make that first sentence bold. I'm guessing people are not seeing it with that nice picture your have under one line of text.

9 mins ago, by Unihedron
Look, I knew no one reads things you over-emphasize, which is why I didn't even make it bold.
@Andy Alternatively, I can get rid of that picture.

@Oded Code Red!
bamare found a way to bypass whatever you did
May 13 at 13:33, by Oded
status-countermeasures-deployed

@Unihedron yes, remove that scary owl

1:57 PM
@Unihedron That's an option too. But, in either case, the picture is distracting from the two important words in your answer.

@Unihedron TIL sanity is defined by whether you agree/disagree with Uni

@DarkAshelin for some definitions of sanity, anyway

@DarkAshelin s/uni/bjb/

@DarkAshelin they just drank of a different well

@Braiam lol this saying rings a vague bell for me