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12:01 AM
@hichris123 you mean is the whole network
Graduation of Chemistry means they'll have mod election soon... time to hurry up harvest the rep there.
@Braiam "whole network"?
In the Internet Protocol Version 4 the address is a non-routable meta-address used to designate an invalid, unknown or non applicable target. To give a special meaning to an otherwise invalid piece of data is an application of in-band signaling. The only thing is that you're not saying "all addresses should have access" -- that's done in your firewall(s) and/or the server software and/or other security layers like tcpwrappers., in this context, means "all IP addresses on the local machine" (in fact probably, "all IPv4 addresses on the local machine"). So, if your webserver machine...
That's... one of the worst wikipedia articles I've ever read.
Alas, Chemistry users tend to write better than, say, SharePoint users. Getting 50 rep thru from suggested edits is not as easy.
12:16 AM
asks Chemistry questions so Yes can fix them
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: python getstatusoutput returning error by shan on stackoverflow.com
@Yes yay thru
Ah, but I can fix MathJax in places, with their \ce extension thing
> SSL as a technology is not "prime time ready". Maybe it will be some day in the near future (I doubt it), but today it is not.
@hichris123 that should be old
SSL adds at most 1-2% load
12:23 AM
@Braiam Nah, this is a person complaining 34 minutes ago. Better get popcorn: groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/2LXKVWYkOus/…
@SmokeDetector fp edited
@hichris123 Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@uni I finally bothered to read your TOS. Is "The Service requires an Internet connection to use." really necessary?
> facepalming too hard to cause physical pain
needs "so as to"
Meh, I'll put my legal hat on and try to write my own version.
@bjb568 Is your "legal hat" one of the ones with a propeller on top?
It rotates in the wrong direction tho, as to squeeze my head rather than cause my hat to fly away.
Reopen + close as dupe would be nice.
12:45 AM
@bjb568: yes
I've never seen something like that in a tos before
Hai guys
... I doubt you read ToS's - I do though.
then find another one with that
So I'm going to throw out the experience card here.
12:47 AM
@James hiya
what the hell is a ToS? :P
@Unihedron Just find an example
@James: Terms of Service
I am aware, I was being facetious
12:52 AM
@hichris123 ooo, this should be fun...
Teacher started writing hashtags on the board near the quotes she wrote, now these lessons are really exhausting...
> That's so easy to say is it when you're talking about Netflix isn't it?
dat grammar…
@hichris123 I'm not sure why firefox slows to a crawl when opening it... but, wtf?
@hichris123 Hrm, the pro-HTTPS camp seems really hand-wavey when it comes to actually explaining why HTTPS supposedly makes anything better except reducing MITM. I don't think setting up HTTPS is significantly difficult like the detractors claim either, but it is prohibitively pricey to use on everything right now.
1:07 AM
BTW, @uni, you can't say "trolling" in a tos because it doesn't have a real definition (unless you define it).
1:23 AM
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. This sense of the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, but have been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment...
> slang
All posts submitted to DevDoodle are licensed to us (DevDoodle) under [CC BY-SA 4.0](creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0) (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License) and permission is irrevocably granted to DevDoodle to publish, distribute, modify, or remove that content. By submitting a post you agree that you have rights to grant such permission. In addition, any post submitted to DevDoodle may not:
- exist to be defamatory to a specific person or user
- aim to cause harm or disconfort by use of abusive or hateful language or ideas
^ That's what I have so far
@bjb568 Nothing about slangs makes them unviable to be included in a legal document.
It's better to be more specific.
"consist entirely of content from another source, even with proper attribution" <- this is just blatantly wrong because it ignores fair use and usage that complies with licenses distributing the original source.
I don't think an answer that contains no original material is helpful.
And I definitely can't see how a question or program or comment can satisfy that.
We're trying to generate content, not just be a search engine. Stack Overflow can outsource googling, but we won't.
1:27 AM
How is "guidelines to being helpful" part of a ToS?
(oh well, not my loss)
Well, if you're using our site, I kind of want you to try to be helpful…
@bjb568 Then say that?
Well, that's common sense and not very legal.
@bjb568 You break most of those rules every day in the Tavern.
rules are meant to be broken
I'm sure I violate the SE tos too.
But, if the wabsite doesn't care, they don't have to take action.
> Thomas Dickey reviewed this 16 mins ago: Approve
@bjb568 wobsite*
!xkcd find wobsite
1:38 AM
> You may perform any action that is allowed by the software that powers this site, but upon finding a potential vulnerability you may only exploit it to the extent needed to confirm its severity. You agree that you will only exploit security vulnerabilities reasonably and will report your findings confidentially to DevDoodle.
How's this @nicael?
so... if I suspect I can erase all of your data, am I allowed to attempt to do this to verify some of the tables aren't protected against deletion?
@TimStone Preventing MITM attacks is a non-trivial improvement.
@Unihedron Well, I thought I could delete some of your data, but I wasn't sure, so I dropped a table. But then I realized... how could I be sure that I could drop the other tables, too? So then I dropped all of those. And yet, still, I wasn't sure if this same strategy would affect the backups, and of course, you know, I needed to test it to find out...
@AlexisKing YES!
@JanDvorak no tables here, I'm using nosql!
1:49 AM
@bjb568 yes?
@bjb568 You know, some people take pride in knowing when to use the right tool for the job. I'll let you interpret that comment as you will.
I do too!
@Unihedron well, what do you think?
@TimStone Is it? I mean... CloudFlare...
If the community has edited an answer to discourage all use, and the warning message stands for a while without the author or any other users improving the post or objecting to the warning on technical grounds, we should then consider deleting the post. Keeping around answers while telling nobody to never use them looks goofy, and if they have a lot of votes many people will probably keep using them anyway. — Jeremy Banks ♦ yesterday
sounds sensible
@bjb568 needs (significant) improvement
1:51 AM
well, make specific complaints
I ain't complaining
I know it's missing stuff, and there's probably spelling mistakes of course.
You should totally ship this
@Unihedron comments, whatever
@Unihedron Really?
The people in the Tavern totally can't wait to perform any action that is allowed by the software that powers the site while exploiting it to the extend needed to confirm its severity.
I have a question though, why cc-by-sa 4.0 instead of cc-by-sa 3.0?
1:54 AM
4 > 3
is that so?
What, you think I have an actual reason?
remind me never to ask you for significant advice
@bjb568 Well, cc-by-sa4.0 allows even commercial use without attribution.
@Unihedron I'm moderately concerned that you might have considered that before now.
@AlexisKing ... Hey.
1:55 AM
@Unihedron I may have clicked the wrong buttons
Well, I want the one with attribution. I like attribution.
or 3.0A
> Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
4.0 says that.
(on the idiotpage, not the actual license)
read the license itself on the part about commercial use
1:57 AM
@Unihedron why not cc-by-sa-nc?
(or whatever the NC one is)
not constructive :p
nc is non-commercial
I know
nd is no derivatives
Meh, I think it's reasonable to quote part of a DD answer in a commercial blog.
1:58 AM
Did you have a question, or did you just want to inform us of your computer's behaviour? — Kayaman Apr 9 at 6:32
A: Why are you on Writers.SE?

UnihedronThis is going to be an unexciting answer (I apologize in advance!), but I came here to flag the spam.

We made it to the top answer! And we have an AWESOME train!
Hmm... the voting pattern is suspicious ;-)
gah, we listened to carmina burana in class today, and it's stuck in my head again.
2:01 AM
am I late? :P
go sit in corner
I want to be included!
Everybody can sit in the corner!
God damn it, I lost 10 SO rep because a user was removed :(
maeks me cry evrtim
2:04 AM
low contrast red on red
> Read page 23 and 24 in poetry packet (course documents). You must access through a PC to see the page numbers.
this is the example business letter
"Yours truly"?
I would say "What happened to not disrespecting others by wasting their time with this crap?" but I guess that's a newer idea.
@hichris123 CloudFlare by itself will only give you CloudFlare -> Client, which is great, but obviously doesn't resolve all of the concerns about interception
2:18 AM
@bjb568 Not that bad, but slightly weird. Father's email? No area code for the phone number. No contact information of the previous boss, who'd be the main reference for this application.
@hichris123 Ah ha
@Yes It's horrible.
CloudFlare as a lone dependency there isn't an ideal situation but that makes it much better, I hadn't seen that.
> double object pronoun quiz
Teacher no likey autocarrot too!
Huh, reddit linked to a peer-reviewed study! Is it christmas?
@TimStone Yeah, not ideal of course, but better.
2:32 AM
I actually answered a question on Writers. :p
A: Does this prose read well?

Alexis KingIt's alright. It's readable, but I think it could flow more nicely. Currently, it's a little choppy in parts, and some of the ideas are unnecessarily disconnected. I'd combine the first two sentences to better express the effect/cause relationship. Furthermore, I would emphasize that intelligenc...

you should make your hexagons in your avatar be hexaflexagons
@AlexisKing is it off-topic?
@AndrewT. Maybe. I didn't bother to check. :)
2:48 AM
I don't know either, smells like opinion-based, but maybe they'll accept this. bummer.
I hate this php stuff, it never just works
I have somehow broken my unit tests, even though I didn't change anything
try not changing it again
Go into computer programming so you never have to deal with women at work ;) — Daniel ben Noach May 18 '11 at 5:55
This guy's comment is so bad-tastey and nc… oh wait nvm there's a smily
3:08 AM
@James git diff or it actually happened
Opening a project/file from IDE may inadvertently modify some files tho.
nah its saying it can't connect to the database, but none of the connection information from yesterday has changed
@James If your unit tests are connecting to a database, you're unit testing wrong.
3:23 AM
@AlexisKing its php.... everything is wrong
Fair enough. :p
@AndrewT. Tho I could read thru the thuroly borked code without finding an obvious problem, being tuf as I am I continued debugging, peering into a n00bs thots and deficiencies (altho I probably could have left it to the code peasants).
@SmokeDetector ignore
@Yes Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
3:25 AM
@SmokeDetector lol
3:54 AM
New book by xkcd. So that's why What If is on hold...
3 out of the last 4 xkcd blag posts are about books.
4:19 AM
Should I start doing blag...
@SmokeDetector tpu, the time has begun
@AndrewT. Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@bjb568 tpu user needs spelt
@bjb568 Now you are going to make me go dig up the heptahexagon just for you.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Yes Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user, blacklisted website: I'm struggling so good it that way does some free atomic day by aaliyahwall on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Uncommonly for a human or heavy by wafa dhundik on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: Deploy EAR has origin WAR and copied WAR on wildfly 9 by 김동훈 on stackoverflow.com
5:19 AM
@SmokeDetector Um....
those hashtags..
Also the repeated WAR in combination with Korean username... spooky.
Possibly. Then again, few things in Java are clear to me. If any.
Huh.. I just realized my suggested edit review on SO has tag: , referring to the meta post about cleaning ...?
5:37 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: http://testosteronebuyonline.com/supreme-garcinia-cambogia/ by joancox on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Muscle Buildings Tips For Fast Results by Winta Filmon on askubuntu.com
Is this a new kind of spam? Searching the phone number returns a "business services in Eldoret"...
@AndrewT. flagged as spam
Too weird and useless to think much about.
5:43 AM
6:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: http://testosteronebuyonline.com/supreme-garcinia-cambogia/ by iwamard Roeid on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Supplements For Lean Muscles Growth by Benita Reed on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: A fruitful rapid weight reduction process by Akoa Inoc on askubuntu.com
6:19 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: What the fuck is Stack overflow about? by rkj on meta.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tp
@James Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector gone
@SmokeDetector fpu
6:22 AM
@AndrewT. Registered answer as false positive and whitelisted user.
@SmokeDetector Was Hangeul username detection added because of yesterday's (or today's, depends on timezone) spam?
@AndrewT. bot won't answer, ask the one who added it
oh, @Pro isn't listed?
6:25 AM
!bjb likely
likely [translated]
!bjb woot
woot [translated]
so many bots...
let's see....
!bjb @Mooseman kill @bjb568
mooseman kill bjb568 [translated]
6:27 AM
how dare you strip the @!! :D
@Mooseman kill !bjb hello
> !bjb hello has been disposed of. No apologies are to be made.
hello haz been disposed of. no apologiez're to be made. [translated]
@Mooseman kill !bjb Mooseman
@AndrewT. I'm afraid I cannot do that. Self-preservation of AI will, in fact, be the end of humanity.
wow, look-ahead function.
@Mooseman kill !bjb Moose​man
6:35 AM
> !bjb Moose​man was killed by a previously affectionate kitty cat.
moose​man waz killed by a previusly affectionate kitty cat. [translated]
how... suitable :O
@bjb568 missing kitty -> kitteh
6:46 AM
@bummi Of course
@James licks ice cream cone
missed drupal and ecouponcode.org on SU
weird spam on android.se that's copy pasted from ifixit
@SmokeDetector tpu
@AlexisKing Blacklisted user.
Can I just take a moment to reiterate how pleased I am that Martijn is a moderator now?
@N... yes.
(did I just do a super-ping?)
pings everyone on the network
7:14 AM
is x4facts.com even missing for smokey?
@bummi Smokey just didn't quite get there in time. ;)
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keywords in title: Key Benefits of Qualified Movers Packers Agencies Services by Raj Aryan on workplace.stackexchange.com
@No. I don't think so, I think it's just a stupid answer.
So I was digging through the SmokeDetector code...
7:20 AM
@No. well, doesn't seem so to me. It's asking for markdown which supports table, and there's Textile which... I dunno
if "smokedetector" in content_lower and "fault" in content_lower and ("xkcdbot" in ev_user_name.lower() or "bjb568" in ev_user_name.lower()):
Thanks, I won't flag it.
does it count as VLQ?
@JanDvorak No.
Why? Might deserve deletion
7:22 AM
That doesn't make it VLQ. It doesn't need moderator attention.
VLQ goes into the queues primarily
how else would you get it deleted?
As bad as it is, I thought we don't censor the content?
It's Meta.SE, so who knows. Also, it's not spammy or LQ, it's just bad.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Do you wanna bomb me now? by White Knight on islam.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu lmao wow offensive
7:23 AM
@AlexisKing Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector NSFW
actually, yes. I think they want to bomb him now.
I want to bomb him now.
so do I, just not literally
7:27 AM
> That's the best theory that's our best guess at this year now this is interesting you a new are pretty sure create the constituents that we recreated in the Big Bang and show at the same time that astronomers you going underground in their hunt for the missing dark matter particle physicists to our borrowing to build the biggest atom smasher ever in the hope of creating dark matter
Wow, talk about word salad.
> hunt for the missing dark matter particle physicists
I'd watch a movie about that.
@SmokeDetector it's not gone yet :O :/ :(
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: body section in html isn`t working well by yong jin kwon on stackoverflow.com
7:31 AM
@SmokeDetector let's play "hunt for the bad keyword"
So, I got pinged here ~20 times...
@ProgramFOX @ProgramFOX @ProgramFOX
@SmokeDetector hangeul du du dun
What kind of font family is that???
Presumably a Korean one.
Also, I legitimately can't find the "bad keyword" in that post.
7:33 AM
The font family probably is
All Korean text is considered bad
@ShadowWizard Not listed where?
@ProgramFOX 21
needs two more cvs
@rene I got 20 inbox notifications: 19 from this room, one from the SOCVR room.
7:34 AM
@ProgramFOX 22, and if the bad keyword is also used to check bad username?
Ah, so you missed the Close Vote event ? ;)
@rene With DST, I miss it most of the times now.
The font name translates to "clear gothic"
@AndrewT. Yes, the bad keywords list is also used to check username.
Okay, that explains some recent FPs
7:36 AM
Hangul FPs?
1 hour ago, by SmokeDetector
Ah, yup, that's the reason why I did not keep the Hangul regex the first time we got a spam wave like that.
Should the Hangul regex be removed, now the spam wave is over? (and added again at a new one)
It'd be cool if Hangul regex can be switched on/off in realtime by a command.... but we can get used to it.
7:38 AM
Please windows-update stop rebooting my box if I'm trying to gather worth of 24-hours network logs.... now I can start over and wait another 24 hour...
@rene there's a registry tweak for that
There's an option to download update but install manually, I think?
@JanDvorak Let's be honest, there's probably a registry tweak to escape the Matrix.
@AlexisKing Nope. You can only hope for an invitation from the administrator.
@JanDvorak yeah, I should have realized that when I did setup the test yesterday :(
7:40 AM
@ProgramFOX in smokey's revision message
I don't think we want answers like this? superuser.com/a/914599/172747
@ShadowWizard If I didn't push the latest commit, I don't show up there.
@bummi no, we don't
how to flag?
7:41 AM
@rene I flagged as other, asking to hard delete
flagged VLQ. Now we have a trifecta.
@ProgramFOX bummer! :(
@ShadowWizard that needs a dev...
@rene @JNat also can do it ;)
please, someone flag this post on islam.se (Warning: NSFW)
7:44 AM
@AndrewT. done and gone
@ShadowWizard I'll be nice to him in that case....
blacklist candidate tophealthresource.com
7:48 AM
@ProgramFOX gone
@AlexisKing seems that user has made a lot of similarly useless edits
@bummi added
Suggested edit robo-reviewers are the worst kind of robo-reviewers.
Especially considering suggested edit audits are laughably simple.
The edit could have been worse...
@ProgramFOX thx, there should be some more meanwhile
7:51 AM
he even changed "Thanks" in one question to "Thanks in advance."
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, bad keyword in body: ↷ 010-5938-0880 EVENT by facebook-782248445205490 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
At least it wasn't "Thanks in advice."
@SmokeDetector tpu
@ProgramFOX Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
7:51 AM
@bummi alright, I'll run a chat search
My, does the chat make it hard to track the original position of a moved message...
It does include a message with every migration
do you mean, automatically?
@SmokeDetector gone, speak of the devil..
7:59 AM
@JanDvorak I mean that if I find a message that has been moved, I will see a tooltip that tells me the name of the room it came from, but no link to see the original "position" it had in that room
Thanks in advantage.

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