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ɥʇǝS

12:01 AM

Animuson got hired!

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Roombatron5000

Congrats @animuson!

user259867

Mod election at Graphic Design

bjb568

Oh, everybody has ignored me, of course.

@Woodface I just noticed there's a review history link :p

53 mins ago, by bjb568

Should all the controls always be there for consistency, but greyed out when not applicable?

Should I ask ^ on UXSE?

ɥʇǝS

Yes.

Roombatron5000

yea, use proper english though

ɥʇǝS

12:13 AM

My infinite wisdom has answered your question. Go forth kitteh and be productive!

And do.. whatever it is you're doing.

bjb568

table layout sucks

user259867

SE employee titles with "Community":

VP of Community Growth
Director of Community Development
Community Manager (x9)
Community Developer
Senior Community Growth Specialist
Community Growth Operations Specialist (animuson)

Roombatron5000

Community User

bjb568

and the other Community Users.

Roombatron5000

Community Wiki

hichris123

12:22 AM

@Woodface wait, where'd you find his title?

ɥʇǝS

@Roombatron5000 animuson has taken over the Community User?

user259867

@hichris123 At twitter.com/animuson

Roombatron5000

@Woodface where did you see animuson's ? i couldn't find him on about page yet

hichris123

ah.

Roombatron5000

ah.

hichris123

12:23 AM

@Roombatron5000 ^^^^

user259867

The combination of "specialist" and "operations" sounds ominous.

ɥʇǝS

Rumour has it, when Shog was a young lieutenant, it was his assignment to Special Operations that resulted in his severed head.

2

Roombatron5000

so this must mean they'll need to have an SO election soon, since animuson won't be able to help out as much there now

user259867

Mar 23 at 0:49, by hichris123

Well, we are having elections in April.

Roombatron5000

like who would want to go clean the floors of their workplace after they clock out?

hichris123

12:29 AM

animuson, obviously.

Jason C

"Community Growth Operations Specialist (animuson)" - Is he like, special ops, but instead of killing you he makes you exercise and drink a lot of milk or something?

Roombatron5000

@JasonC it means he hooks up stack exchange users to go on dates, that will hopefully lead to a baby, thus growing the community

Jason C

Nice. Does he use CloudFlare for that?

bjb568

0

Q: Should controls be removed or just greyed out in a tool for power-users where they repeat many times?

This answer by JohnGB on "Greyed-Out vs Invisible" by Joel B kind of touches on the idea, but this question focuses specifically on a moderation tool for power users. Should buttons that don't apply (e.g. voting to delete a post that's already deleted) be greyed out or completely removed? The sc...

Somebody edit pls

so not crappy

Jason C

Mar 13 at 16:17, by Jason C

Have any of you guys ever used an induction cooker? I just got one out of curiosity to compare to my gas range. I can't decide how I feel about it.

The results are in. It's the awesomest thing ever.

Turns out they make kick-ass deep fryers

ɥʇǝS

12:37 AM

/me wants a induction cooktop.

Jason C

@bjb568 What's crappy about it?

bjb568

I dunno. I just assume I can't write well.

I got an 89% last quarter

so cloose :(

Jason C

@ɥʇǝS The counter top ones are super affordable (amazon.com/1800-Watt-Portable-Induction-Cooktop-Countertop/dp/…), but you'll probably want to invest in some tri-clad pots and pans. Or if you have a cast iron pan.

Braiam

@hichris123 ...

Jason C

But the gas range is still unrivaled for searing, or at least I'm really used to it, I rarely use the pan on it. It's great for boiling water, heating oil, making pasta.

ɥʇǝS

12:39 AM

@JasonC hey that's not bad!

Jason C

@bjb568 That means you only 11% suck at writing. Seems reasonable. I'm sure @tchrist would be happy to convert your quote marks for you though.

bjb568

my… quote marks?

hichris123

> Wanting to know the truth behind the Matrix, Neo chooses to swallow an offered red pill.

Jason C

@bjb568 "don't show greyed out mod tools to non-mods" -> “don't show greyed out mod tools to non-mods”

Braiam

@hichris123 ... intensifies

bjb568

12:45 AM

@JasonC :O

hichris123

@JasonC why are they better?

Jason C

facepalm Nevermind...

Braiam

@JasonC don't you dare!!!!!

hichris123

oh, wait, that was to bjb. ""

Braiam

everybody saw anyways @hichris123

Jason C

12:48 AM

@Braiam Oh, I would never. Besides, do you know how long it took me to find, copy, and paste those?

Yeah and we won't forget what we saw.

hichris123

oh no!

Jason C

Has Amazon always been blue? I thought it was yellow.

animuson

They switched to the dark blue top bar thing a few weeks ago.

Roombatron5000

275 lq posts needing review

bjb568

@animuson eww

also, bad marketing idea

@Roombatron5000 *275 thousand

Jason C

12:50 AM

Man, I'm not really feeling it. Not that it matters. Every time I visit the site I accidentally buy something anyways.

user259867

*9 million.

Roombatron5000

@JasonC animuson has a wish list

Jason C

Like just now after digging up that link for Seth I've purchased, uh, a watering fountain for the cats, two oven mitts, and a 20-pack of RJ45 connectors. Help.

I don't even remember clicking anything. I think it just confirms your purchase on mouse over.

hichris123

Apr 29 '14 at 3:53, by Undo

It's so weird seeing @animuson being non-blue

Now @animuson is blue again, @Undo!

user259867

@JasonC A 0-click purchase with 1-click cancel.

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user259867

12:53 AM

Also, area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/84966/addiction

Jason C

@Woodface Pretty much.

Oh lord. I have to resist the urge to upvote those sample questions.

user259867

Actually, I stole that 0-click thing...

user259867

> Patenting the 0 click purchase + 1 click cancel -- Emmett Nicholas at 6:45 PM - 30 Apr 2014 via Twitter

Jason C

Removes star.

Roombatron5000

flagged

hichris123

12:58 AM

-5

bjb568

Oh what, I thought it was noon.

I realized UTC midnight passed over.

It's almost 21.

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/84966/addiction/84980#84980 heh, use DD instead!

Braiam

cv-pls? stackoverflow.com/q/29343058/792066

Jason C

24 hours ago, by Jason C

I'm going to be in Denver next week, maybe I'll find shog and argue with him about documentation.

bjb568

:D

Jason C

I'm comin' for you tomorrow, @Shog9.

4

bjb568

12:59 AM

goes to get dead bird

Roombatron5000

Is there any correlation between patient and patience. As in patient's usually have to wait a lot. Is this just a coincidence? Couldn't find on ELU. Someone start question there?

user259867

@Roombatron5000 Without patience you'll never be a doctor.

bjb568

eats chicken

Andrew T.

Without patient, no doctor is needed.

Undo

@hichris123 yay, order has been restored to the universe.

Andrew T.

1:11 AM

re: VLQ, what do you think of this answer? android.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/83186

Roombatron5000

@undo now smokey could just ping @animuson each time?

James

Morning

Andrew T.

since Shog's post on MSO, I'd think it's a comment since it's a shaky attempt to answer (e.g. "try fooing the bar"), but if I remove the "try", it's an answer albeit low-quality (by definition of VLQ)

@SmokeDetector fpu. Sumer(ian)

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Registered answer as false positive and whitelisted user.

user259867

@AndrewT. I saw it but didn't flag NAA. By Android Enthusiasts standards it's not that bad. Maybe the OP indeed has something disabled in those settings.

hichris123

1:15 AM

@Roombatron5000 Oh right, @animuson can nuke mSE spammers.

Roombatron5000

and drupal spammers

Andrew T.

@Woodface point taken, thanks.

user259867

If I proofread all of 175 joojaa's answers on Graphic Design (like this one), I'd have enough rep to vote in mod election.

user259867

Or get suspended for excessive bumping, who knows.

James

lol

You wouldn't even need to do anything, just use the auto-format cleanup script

bjb568

1:18 AM

is stuffed full with indian chicken curries

Jason C

Heats oven to 275, prepares to slow-roast chicken curry-stuffed cat.

bjb568

:O

8

Santa Claus

@JasonC I didn't see it :(

ɥʇǝS

@Roombatron5000 yes we love @animuson so much we should send him a dozen pings a day about MSE spammers :D:D

Jason C

That's what I do to Shog.

@SantaClaus Yeah... and I forgot what it was.

AstroCB

1:21 AM

I'm the only one to have reviewed in H&I today, and I'm already up to 20.

Santa Claus

Why pick and choose, when you could ping all the moderators!

Roombatron5000

@AstroCB i reviewed a lot, did like 8 or so low quality flags

ɥʇǝS

Why do people star faces? That just doesn't make sense..

Roombatron5000

@ɥʇǝS i starred a reaction

Jason C

I was just wondering the same thing. I'm just going to star it because everybody else did.

AstroCB

1:22 AM

@Roombatron5000 Oh, right – those don't count as a review action (for whatever reason).

ɥʇǝS

@Roombatron5000 ah, well in that case +1.

Santa Claus

@JasonC Peer pressure

Jason C

Man, I don't mind downvotes, but un-upvotes are just cruel.

4

ɥʇǝS

life is cruel.

Santa Claus

Pure javascript is cruel @bjb568

ɥʇǝS

1:26 AM

I'm not sure I agree.

bjb568

nuuuuuuuuuuu

Jason C

Well

bjb568

Lee Kuan Yew Is Finally Dead!

►

wow

ɥʇǝS

I think there is a lot to be said for Vanilla JS, but I also think there is a lot to be said for jQuery.

Santa Claus

@ɥʇǝS I sure hope you would agree if you saw @bjb568's argument

Jason C

1:26 AM

@ɥʇǝS Life is hilariously cruel. Good fun every day.

ɥʇǝS

I did ;)

bjb568

yay

ɥʇǝS

And it didn't make any sense..

bjb568

nuu

ɥʇǝS

@JasonC how about un-stars? :P

Jason C

1:27 AM

Hey I saw that.

Yeah. I slouched in my chair a little. Thanks.

ɥʇǝS

lol

4

bjb568

heheh

ɥʇǝS

these stars are weird o_O

Jason C

@ɥʇǝS, meet @bjb.

bjb568

hiya

ɥʇǝS

1:30 AM

nice to meet you.

bjb568

hiiiiiiya

Jason C

> Tomorrow I am going to open the time capsule I buried as a kid. I can't wait to see how big my puppy got.

5

Roombatron5000

time capsules require patience, blah

Jason C

Oh man, the comments on that one.

hichris123

We're back on jQuery again? eek.

bjb568

1:36 AM

We've always been on jQ.

SE chat dev r krappy

ɥʇǝS

@JasonC ugh. This is why I avoid reddit.

bjb568

:p

Jason C

Haha, me too, until somebody posts a link here and I get sucked in.

I check /r/CatHighFive every day now.

bjb568

:D

TIL jews are rare (0.2% of world pop)

worldometers.info/world-population/#growthrate

bjb568

2:15 AM

alive?

Doorknob

no

bjb568

aww

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: I imagined the situation on the GermanWings plane and I think I have plane phobia by user8558 on aviation.stackexchange.com

bjb568

wat

Andrew T.

2:32 AM

@SmokeDetector oh wow, a curious question

@SmokeDetector fp anyway, self-edited

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Jason C

2:52 AM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29343058

Hobo Sapiens

@JasonC Done.

Jason C

Ugh, triage is sooo boorrriinngg

And H&I is full of unsalvageable questions.

3

bjb568

very agree on stop watching news

uninformed > misinformed

Hobo Sapiens

@JasonC A case in point. cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29350767/1864610

Jason C

3:07 AM

@HoboSapiens Yeah. cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29352913/…

Writes a script to automatically cv everything in the h&i queue

Unihedro

3:28 AM

@bjb568 What's that?

bjb568

4 hours ago, by bjb568

Should all the controls always be there for consistency, but greyed out when not applicable?

0

Q: Should controls be removed or just greyed out in a tool for power-users where they repeat many times?

This answer by JohnGB on "Greyed-Out vs Invisible" by Joel B kind of touches on the idea, but this question focuses specifically on a moderation tool for power users. Should buttons that don't apply (e.g. voting to delete a post that's already deleted) be greyed out or completely removed? The sc...

website-design user-behavior controls disable

Unihedro

Oh, you meant "my" instead of "by" :p

Will answer when @ home

Andrew T.

@bjb568 for this case, I'd prefer hide, but quick access to help about all possible actions of mods should be available (e.g. /privilege)

SmokeDetector

3:49 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Keep its usage for at least one month by deqwerpqz on drupal.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

offensive android.stackexchange.com/questions/103953/… (OP's comment)

user259867

4:03 AM

SPAM sound.stackexchange.com/q/34827/13245

user259867

SPAM sound.stackexchange.com/a/34828/13245

user259867

SPAM workplace.stackexchange.com/a/43507/32293

user259867

SPAM workplace.stackexchange.com/q/43506/32293

user259867

Anyway, the pattern is clear.

James

lel

bjb568

4:11 AM

@AndrewT. ok, will do that

user259867

@Roombatron5000 When you VLQ from HIQ, do the flags tend to be marked helpful or declined?

user259867

@SmokeDetector gone

user259867

Interesting how this was mod-nuked at once, while another piece of spam is sitting there for half an hour.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: AC FAN SPEED CONTROL USING ARDUINO by T.v. Vignesh on electronics.stackexchange.com

SilentKiller

4:29 AM

Morning!

Morning!

Morning!

Evening!

Night!

Afternoon!

4:36 AM

Noon!

Dawn!

Sunset!

Dusk!

Twilight!

@Woodface i don't think they ever get declined, unless maybe a mod did the review? Probably around 65/35 helpful/disputed

SilentKiller

4:40 AM

@bjb568 saga ? ;)

bjb568

no, just twilight

AND WHO BROKE THE TRAIN‽

i didn't

Looks over to @roo

from the glass.

@bjb568 didn't even notice the train! - final last words

2

SilentKiller

4:43 AM

bjb like this ??

bjb568

yeah, sorta like that

with like the eyes

and the looking

and the over

and the to @roombatron

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: I've been using Jogo a lot and Ideally think it makes by agai salry on superuser.com

Roombatron5000

@wood also, it seems like buggy, like sometimes i do the lq flag and then go back in my flag history and its not there.. not sure why it wouldn't submit it sometimes like this. maybe if it already made it out of triage twice? or maybe it's an actual bug

Andy

um...spam or just spam-like? stackoverflow.com/questions/29317595/…

user259867

This user appears to be drawing some shapes with his reputation

user259867

4:56 AM

@Andy I think spam-like. Was the user for some time before answering, and is answering the question.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: gconfg wrong? susspissious on attacks against on connected Wi-fi by ZAhAbLU on askubuntu.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector @ɥʇǝS This guy again ^

user259867

SPAM askubuntu.com/questions/603415/…

Jason C

@Andy Looks spam-like. Question author has posted an answer in the past, doesn't seem like seed. Also that nexmo service actually has its own tag on SO, so at least it seems somewhat legit.

In any case its a crap question.

@SmokeDetector lol, the edit askubuntu.com/posts/603414/revisions... much better now.

user259867

Could be a nice picture but something about it... [the author of the post, I presume]

user259867

5:02 AM

Hm, is he programming on a boat?

2

user259867

Also, do people know that when they upload a profile pic, the full size is stored and made available?

Roombatron5000

@Woodface what user are you referring to?

user259867

The blacklisted one, ZAhAbLU

bjb568

@Woodface My full-sized kewl kitteh is up on teh interwabz!

user259867

Your profile pic isn't original. Except for glasses.

bjb568

5:07 AM

yayz

@Woodface hey

It was others who copied my pic

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/153374/…

user259867

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/18215615/… tool rec

user259867

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/1538219/… tool rec

James

votes on both

user259867

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/3993691/3717023 superuser, btw one of two answers is blatant spam

James

5:18 AM

They both look like blatant spam

wait no

tutorial link, my mistake

user259867

"Tutorial" link is the spammy one.

user259867

The search for url:download.cnet.com score:..0 brings up such things in droves.

James

Spam flags for everyone!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: On the denials still by baybry son on meta.stackexchange.com

SilentKiller

@SmokeDetector tpu

listen to me Smokey. :P ;)

user259867

5:25 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu but it doesn't matter, will get nuked soon enough. They rarely post more than once anyway.

SmokeDetector

@Woodface Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: http://nitroshredadvice.com/luxoderm/ by jenimos367 on meta.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

@Woodface also on AU askubuntu.com/a/481202/331791

How about Metcalf's FonePaw? also on another answer stackoverflow.com/a/28980282/2821954

user259867

So, are all leawo.org posts spam? Looks like it

user259867

Most of them, anyway.

user259867

wtf is this AU Q&A askubuntu.com/questions/178169/…

SmokeDetector

5:35 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Active Ingredients Found in Rapid Repair Eye Serum by Connie Ritter on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Active Ingredients Found in Rapid Repair Eye Serum by Connie Ritter on webmasters.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Active Ingredients Found in Rapid Repair Eye Serum by Connie Ritter on meta.stackexchange.com

James

hold on to your hats

user259867

SPAM askubuntu.com/a/577189

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: Used by the body for energy as a result the strike by gracedavis on drupal.stackexchange.com

James

Sudden clarity Clarence moment: What if people like us are the spammers target market?

user259867

We do read more spam than most...

James

5:40 AM

Just pure stockholm syndrome

eventually we will become sympathetic too our tormentors

DroidDev

Meanwhile, a unicorn is standing right in front of me. Asking me to upvote his answer on skeptics.se :/

James

Interesting: A spam edit: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7526063

SilentKiller

@DroidDev then you should do it. :P

DroidDev

@SilentKiller I don't have account on skeptics.se :P

SilentKiller

hahahaha xD

SmokeDetector

5:45 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best anti aging products by dana harris on meta.stackexchange.com

James

An evil thing you can do, tell a rhino that it is just a unicorn that needs to moisturize

bjb568

Chat Flag Review Queue, pull request #189 on DevDoodle @programfox @uni review plox

yeah, some of the code is sorta crappy

Andrew T.

@James someone approved D:

DroidDev

in Shadow's Den, Mar 23 at 6:02, by DroidDev

see @mav @Sha real unicorns have curves :P

James

I saw

:/

user259867

5:46 AM

And the user who proposed the edit has 800+ rep?!

James

apparently

it's a weird image to use, if it's not a spam edit

but pretty dumb to use an obvious advert

user259867

Wait... that image was there from the beginning, but as a link. The editor just wanted to embed it, as is often done.

user259867

Still ridiculous, given the image.

James

nah, have a look, the imgur parameters are different

Andrew T.

but the image is the same, he uploaded it once again since he's using image toolbar

user259867

5:49 AM

And the image does illustrate the kind of progress bar the OP wants. So... not spam.

James

ahh I see

user259867

But still better as a link than as a giant ad inside a post.

Andrew T.

well, I admit my fault, since the image is ridiculously suspicious

James

me too

as soon as I saw it, I thought spam

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Monitor stuck at 1024x768, tried installing nvidia driver and it now wont get past login by yanko heffer on askubuntu.com

Andrew T.

5:52 AM

~~someone can replace the image with this one?~~ (i forgot I can edit it myself) github.com/ninjinkun/NJKWebViewProgress

James

lol

user259867

what-is-this-even android.stackexchange.com/a/104073

Andrew T.

^copy paste from top of the question until the bottom of the site

user259867

I sense the possibility of infinite recursion.

James

copy paste?

SmokeDetector

5:57 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IF EXPRESSION IN FIELD CALCULATOR by kon.pet on gis.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

@AndrewT. ironically, the image I replaced with is the answer to the question

Braiam

> A 13 year old with proper spelling and grammar? Upvotes for you, sir!

bjb568

Is this a good idea? (having smaller text on smaller devices)

Andrew T.

@bjb568 who do you refer to? I only see octocat

bjb568

It's a pull req on DevDoodle.

To summarize:

@media (max-width: 600px) {
	body { font-size: 0.95em }
}
@media (max-width: 400px) {
	body { font-size: 0.9em }
}

SmokeDetector

6:01 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MANNNY PACC VS FLOYD MAYWEATHER? by Richard Fernando on aviation.stackexchange.com

bjb568

wot

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector !!/wot

James

Blatantly off topic

bjb568

VLQ

user259867

@SmokeDetector might get edited with livestream spam link

James

6:03 AM

Luckily Aviation is one of the sites I have downvote privileges on.

SPAMBAIT

user259867

SPAM aviation.stackexchange.com/a/13700/5664

user259867

called it.

user259867

SPAM pm.stackexchange.com/questions/14558/…

user259867

Watch this user network wide: stackexchange.com/users/5947419/richard-fernando?tab=activity

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, Bad keyword in body: Is Garcinia cambogia Select really helpful for slim body? by Rosie Baer on meta.stackexchange.com

James

6:05 AM

Can we also watch the answerers account?

Yep spam answer from same account on pm.stackexchange

bjb568

Night!

James

@AndrewT. Lol, F-22 every time

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: PowerShell : Directory object not found error in Get-ADGroupMember by PranavJ on stackoverflow.com

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector fixed (not really)

bummi

beat me :)

Andrew T.

6:11 AM

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

Andrew T.

incoming livestreaming bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36685/…

James

hehehe tagged mining-pools just like what they are doing

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: TWS job scheduler PAM: Authentication faiiled by Shashi Ranjan on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: How to get white fairness skin fast by Tracey Teed on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

some recall on reading this? http://www.faqssys.info/how-to-add-secondary-patition-on-sd-card-to-internal-memory/
[Status-Reported]

Infinite Recursion

6:26 AM

Congrats @animuson!

James

@bummi yes I do

It's a copy paste of an answer that smokey brought up a while ago

why?

bummi

The whole site seems to be a copy without attributon

James

Looks like a stackexchange scraper

Compare:
http://www.faqssys.info/data-are-drawn-from-a-probability-distribution-p/
http://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/139280/data-are-drawn-from-a-probability-distribution-p

bummi

I took 2 examples and wrote to contact us ...

James

Ooooo can I write the meta.stackexchange question about it? I need to rep to be able to downvote spam posts

user259867

6:31 AM

But you shouldn't downvote spam posts...

bummi

^^^^^^^^

James

Flag and downvote

bummi