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9:04 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Accounting Program Error by Ali Immam on dba.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector fpu and OMG oracle applications .... nightmares return...
 
@rene Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
Our crusade against the spam seed has generated this question:
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Q: What is a "spam seed"?

peterhHere I found a new terminology first time. Looks like a spam seed is a post, which "is designed to allow spammers to post questions so it looks legitimate". What means this exactly? Maybe it is some type of a spamfilter poisoning?

@bummi I love how the comment got an upvote.
 
Is it on-topic?
AKA - Should I make comments?
 
9:09 AM
I haven't read their about page.
Bart has his first upvote on infosec.
And his second!
 
You may call me an expert
 
@Bart the spam filter poisoning is the interesting part that you leave unanswered.
 
Now let me post spam comments below that seed
@rene myeah, I thought about that. I'm not sure there is much of a poisoning effect however. You think?
 
@Bart You even said I'm correct. I'd call that an expert.
@Bart The poisoning effect, I think, is if questions like that are left un-flagged, they are implicitly marked "good". And thus the spamfilter degrades.
 
@Bart not sure but it could raise the number of false positives.
 
9:18 AM
@J.Steen ah, I thought the other way around. Flagging such questions as "spam" may poison the filter in that they resemble "decent" content.
 
Ah. Hmm.
Let me reread.
 
Exactly @rene. But they are usually so terrible that a little false positive suspicion might not be too big a deal.
 
If the expert says so...
 
No, I think my interpretation is right.
 
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A: What is a "spam seed"?

UnihedroThere has been spam campaigns by other web forums who target sites that allow user contributions (including Stack Exchange). For an official proof, see this comment. Yup, it's part of a coordinated campaign to spam file recovery tools to Stack Overflow, Super User, Server Fault, and other sit...

Well I quoted the origin of the term, do I get more points than Bart maybe? :p
Ugh, fastest gun in the west problem.
 
9:21 AM
@rene anyway, updated.
@Unihedro LQTTBIHMM problem
(Let's quickly type that before I have my meeting)
 
Like most of my bosses' decisions.
 
@J.Steen I'll ask for a raise then
 
Okay, daily LQ-queue dosage...
 
I can't add "Spam seed" to the glossary because the body is limited to 30k characters. xD
Never mind, I did it.
 
Holy crap the amount of LQ...
This entire question should probably be nuked: stackoverflow.com/questions/14566848/…
Or locked.
 
9:38 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Unable to mount usb hard disk in rhel 7.1 by Ajmal on stackoverflow.com
 
And it got an upvote ... sigh ...
 
ffs.
Idiot user linked them to softwarerec without first pointing them at on-topic and dont-ask pages.
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
@J.Steen panic deleted
Quick! Someone guard softwarerecs
 
No. Let it burn. I care not.
 
9:54 AM
Ugh, I need 4 more points to downvote.
 
It's tagged... weirdly.
 
@J.Steen Skeet skeet!
 
My word.
I'd say that should put the nail in their question-ban coffin.
 
dead
 
I need to kill someone.
 
10:04 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: "Which" or "what"? by Undying_War on ell.stackexchange.com
 
This question is making me boil a bit: stackoverflow.com/questions/29252399/…
=D
^ fp
 
@SmokeDetector gone
@Mooseman Why didn't you fix the presentation and add blockquotes as well?
 
Considering it's a quote, it needs proper quote-formatting.
And syntax.
So, "you don't know [anything] about me"
 
status-fixed
 
10:09 AM
And all inside a blockquote, as Uni said.
 
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A: Bankers algorithm for deadlock avoidance in c

RANGEmalayaali aaaanaleeeeee...................................:)

Abusive
 
I also suspect it's a poem, not a bullet list. XD
I can't flag it, the sodding dialog is BEHIND THE ANSWER BOX.
ARGH.
 
You guys know what we need?
 
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Q: Flag dialog for faded offensive posts appears below answer editor

MoosemanSimilar to this, but containing more bugginess. Take a look at this: The post was grayed out because it received (presumably) 3 offensive flags. The answer was simply a random string of profanities. Grayed out? Good. Grayed out flag dialog? Not good, but already reported. The editor hazing a...

@Unihedro We need pizza?
 
@Mooseman I KNOW.
 
10:10 AM
The Tavern Watchlist - a small stack to pour spam / offensive user links in. :p
 
You mean, like that channel that noone is ever in?
 
Yeah!
 
bjb's?
 
Isn't that the CV room?
 
^^
 
10:11 AM

Closevotes

Post questions you want closed here with the same syntax as ex...
 
It just keeps getting worse: stackoverflow.com/questions/29252399/…
Yeah, that room.
 
@J.Steen Not our loss, no risk of getting reopened (ever), just walk away from it. xD
 
I asked what the purpose of the closevote room was, what it does, how it works, and got no response.
 
Not your loss, do more interesting things.
 
If there's never anyone in it, how could it POSSIBLY be useful?
 
10:13 AM
Did I imply The Watchlist have to be useful? xD
(spoiler alert: no)
 
FINE.
I GO EAT LUNCH NAOW.
 
Let's clean up the comment thread. Flag all comments about obsolete tag resemblance as obsolete: stackoverflow.com/q/29252399/3622940
 
Just. Delete. The question.
o/
 
Enough flags should nuke a comment before a mod has to see it, so it does good while we still have many people in here.
 
@Unihedro Should use a custom flag instead -- flagging each comment just makes clutter in the mod queue.
 
10:19 AM
4 mins ago, by Unihedro
Enough flags should nuke a comment before a mod has to see it, so it does good while we still have many people in here.
 
@Unihedro Key word being enough though. I doubt we'll have enough except for the offensives.
 
Isn't the formula 3 + sqrt(score) flags?
 
@Unihedro IIRC, yes
 
k
 
-1
A: Bankers algorithm for deadlock avoidance in c

minnuwhat the fuck site is this....

 
10:32 AM
Why does the flag dialog dim out?!
 
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Q: Flag dialog for faded offensive posts appears below answer editor

MoosemanSimilar to this, but containing more bugginess. Take a look at this: The post was grayed out because it received (presumably) 3 offensive flags. The answer was simply a random string of profanities. Grayed out? Good. Grayed out flag dialog? Not good, but already reported. The editor hazing a...

 
Hi all!
 
> Update: In some situations, it can even appear below other answers making selecting a flag option impossible. The only workaround is to drag the box -- using the top right corner -- to whitespace on the right side. Then the post may be flagged.
Hiya J
 
10:57 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: CWAC - do not capture image when flash mode is ON on s5 by Baba on stackoverflow.com
 
@bummi highly erotic pictures on the website in that profile
 
Short lunch.
Needs more melted cheese.
 
Question: I am using a <table> and have a tooltip on hover on the <span> inside a <td>. Should the tooltip be on the span or the td?
 
it depends...
 
11:08 AM
Y'know. We should have editing and review capabilities on careers.so-ads, too.
Some a**hats type in all-caps and it annoys me.
 
@rene on what?
@J.Steen BUT TYPING IN ALL CAPS SCREAMING MY LUNGS OUT OVER THE INTERNETS MEANS YOULL READ THIS AND HELP ME!!!!!!!!
 
flags for moderator attention
 
@Mooseman if that span is the only tag inside that td, if the span covers the whole width/height of the td....
 
missed to see it's his page, can't flag anymore :/ .... superuser.com/a/893776/172747
 
11:15 AM
spam-flagged
 
@rene It is the only child (no text nodes, either). It covers the full height/width, except for the padding of the td.
 
@J.Steen thanks
 
Holy cow - GitHub has a fantastic API.. I've never had to use it before, but now it amazes me.
 
SPAM!
Oh.
 
11:17 AM
@Mooseman why do you have a span then?
 
@rene It's a glyphicon. I probably should've started with that.
 
do all other td's have a tooltip as well? or is it only in the one with the span?
 
ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAANNNNNGGGGGGE!
I feel better now.
 
Is orange the new BROWN?
 
11:21 AM
@bummi Gone.
 
@rene Just the one in each tr
 
Brown is the new brown.
 
@bummi but. but. but. the pretty nested blockquote. i think im gonna cry.
/sarcasm
 
@Mooseman should be findable by bots?
 
@bummi ???
 
11:24 AM
Why are there so many people coding unity, who have no clue how to write code?
 
@Mooseman and the other td's don't have a span? If they do put it on the span, it not put on the td for sake of consistency
 
@J.Steen s/unity/minecraft/
 
@Mooseman the nested blockquote like ths other pattern >>>>>>>>>
 
@rene nope. ill put it on the td thanks
@bummi right
 
Can we delete this? It really sucks stackoverflow.com/questions/29216677/…
 
Oh, hey, I downvoted that.
 
user259867
@bummi bots search for actual >> symbols. Those that get parsed into <blockquote> are not detected. It would be more reliable to detect the link to that particular /pdftoexcelconverter/
 
@Woodface How about we detect (?:<blockquote>){3}?
 
11:27 AM
How about people on the internet stop being useless bints?
 
@J.Steen no way
 
user259867
@Unihedro I haven't looked at the source of those posts; is there whitespace between tags?
 
@Woodface I don't think the markup/down parser does
 
Of course, without the useless bints I couldn't have the warm feeling I get from all those spam-flags.
 
Nope, stared at the source, it doesn't
 
11:28 AM
@Woodface why isn't that this added already, we have much spam for this? IIRC I did see the blockquote with other spam too ...
 
user259867
@bummi Because neither I nor you made a pull request for it...
 
MYSTERY FEATURE
Speaking of useless bints.
 
@JasonC Good idea. I won't put all commands in a message though, because it would grow too long. Instead, I'm going to write a Wiki on GitHub and link to that from the !!/help command.
 
Wow. Can I get more bitter today?
 
Oh, I see your PR already got merged :)
Then I'll add that wiki to add a full explanation, not just a list.
But first, I'm going to eat lunch.
 
11:33 AM
Melted cheese!
 
@Woodface maybe you can? My english is poor ...
 
user259867
@bummi I do want to try one day, though I'll need to begin with setting up a Github account + figuring out how git. Not to mention whitespace conversion.
 
When in doubt, git rebase.
 
user259867
Meanwhile, I organized my suggestions for spam filter so: blacklist candidate. Maybe @ProgramFOX will get to it after lunch.
 
I am annoyed that I can't find a usable, free - and good - alternative for setting up a git-server on Windows...
...annoyed, because companies rarely want to take the time to set up a linux can just for that.
 
11:37 AM
blacklist candidate SpyHunter
 
user259867
@J.Steen I'm thinking of using AWS for that.
 
@Woodface That costs money and puts the code repo externally - and possibly in another country. Big no no.
 
@J.Steen "externally" can be overridden by using a Git Remote.
 
user259867
Blacklist candidate: garcinia without word boundaries (there are multiple domains, and sometimes it's mentioned on its own). Use in spam: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/…
 
@Unihedro I don't follow. Code will leave the premises whatever I do.
 
11:48 AM
blacklist candidate pcerror-fix
blacklist candidate combatpcviruses
blacklist candidate filerepairtool
blacklist candidate keepbrowsersafe
 
w00t. Over 50 accounts.
 
137 accounts..
 
user259867
@Unihedro Do you have CiviCRM already?
 
I do now.
 
@Unihedro Show off.
 
11:58 AM
If you mock your own vision to see the "3" twice, it would spell "1337"!
 
I'd say this is POB. What say you others? stackoverflow.com/questions/29255063/…
 
@J.Steen isn't it better suitable for CR?
 
@Woodface Cool, thanks!
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector fp different Baba
 
@Woodface Registered answer as false positive.
 
user259867
12:10 PM
@SmokeDetector fp poor formatting but one needs to know what this is about to edit...
 
@Woodface Registered answer as false positive.
 
!!/rev?
 
@Woodface @bummi ^ your keywords are added
 
user259867
Thanks! I look forward to learning more about awesome free Excel-to-PDF converters.
 
12:22 PM
@ProgramFOX thanks :) SpyHunter is mostly hidden behind linking pages, I'll add some if I find new spam
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@ProgramFOX Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Query and Playa Field by Adeeb Khan on expressionengine.stackexchange.com
 
Do we still need the "Nike" keyword? /cc @Undo @hichris123
 
@ProgramFOX There are a lot more tp's than fp's...
 
12:30 PM
Oh, are there?
I thought it was a long time ago that I saw one.
 
1:03 PM
 
yes
 
user259867
@Mooseman When was the last Nike tp?
 
user259867
@ProgramFOX The filter I find the weakest in the tp/fp ratio is "baba". It's just a name, and a number of users have that name. Now that Smokey checks the content of posts for vashikaran, black magic and such things, I don't think this username match is needed.
 
I see. Should I exclude baba from usernames then?
 
user259867
I think so. Recent history: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/… ... all true positives also matched something else
 
1:12 PM
ok
will do that after finishing my chess game with Uni
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ORGANIC CHEMISTRY-NAMING A COMPOUND by user166748 on chemistry.stackexchange.com
 
!!/rev?
 
@Woodface ^
 
user259867
I think I heard a collective sigh of relief by all Babas of the world.
 
1:27 PM
@ProgramFOX If he's watching as we should watch: webapps.stackexchange.com
 
2:03 PM
@J.Steen closed
 
Cheers.
 
user259867
2:29 PM
The Health proposal is one commitment away from beta. In "users also committed to" category, the first place is LifeHacks. So... expect HealthHacks.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@Woodface Blacklisted user.
 
mhhh couldn't that have just the meaning of the cherry on top in slang?
 
umm... who is this... user named redfeet?
11 2
and where is @bluefeet?
.... flagged for now.
 
2:56 PM
@Vogel612'sShadow a troll removed here stackoverflow.com/a/28349149/1699210
 
user259867
> We are happy to announce that Marco Cecconi @sklivvz from @stackfeed just confirmed to give a talk at @codetalkshh in 2015 again! -- code.talks at 3:56 AM - 25 Mar 2015 via Twitter
 
user259867
Erm. What is that @stackfeed account?
 
user259867
Is sklivvz really employed by a Twitter handle that went defunct in 2012?
 
user259867
I get that the Twitter bot algorithm would not work for SO, but the flagship site ought to have some functional Twitter handle.
 
@stackfeed, Stack Overflow, @StackExchange... all the same, you know
 
user259867
3:08 PM
Sadly @StackOverflow is taken by someone who doesn't tweet much, or anything of interest.
 
user259867
@KevinBrown Street people may recognize Stack Overflow without having a clue of what that "Stock Exchange" thing is.
 
user259867
(Experimentally verified)
 
user259867
Well, not exactly by polling on a street. But from conversations.
 
@bummi hmmm.. flag marked helpful, user still alive and kicking
 
Lol, choice E
 
3:19 PM
@Vogel612'sShadow mhhhmm, the profile is plagiarizing bluefeets and the page linked on the profile is showing his trolling, since you flagged I'd assume he'll get removed sooner or later ....
 
user259867
@bjb568 Whoever wrote that problem was desperate to get most students to guess correctly.
 
user259867
One option sticks out as a fraction (and the problem involves 1/2), and is named C.
 
user259867
So even "down the middle all the way" would work.
 
Lucky it was a practice question, not on the actual test.
Or unlucky if u suk
 
17 mins ago, by Woodface
@KevinBrown Street people may recognize Stack Overflow without having a clue of what that "Stock Exchange" thing is.
 
user259867
3:26 PM
in CoGro Musings, 9 hours ago, by Shog9
611 questions closed as duplicates in response to asker confirmations thus far; small but noticeable spike in asker edits:
 
"Stock Exchange" looks very legit
 
user259867
@AndrewT. Well, the name is intentionally a variation of that.
 
user259867
Which, in hindsight, is less than ideal.
 
user259867
 
user259867
Onebox cuts it off. Mathematics in second place with 42
 
3:27 PM
@SmokeDetector delete
edited
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What is the best way to avoid being shot by snipers? (MW2) by Priyanshu Shukla on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
3:45 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Javascript is not not working due to unknown reason by Danyal on stackoverflow.com
 
@ProgramFOX I was going to reorganize chat command handling to use a lookup table that also included documentation info, to automate the command list and add individual command help but make it easy to maintain. Mostly as an exercise in Python, since I should probably learn it. But if you're just going to stick everything on a wiki and link to it, I'm not going to try that. It might be cool to make "!!/help command" pull the wiki text and reply with it in chat.
 
@JasonC Wiki scraping is possible, but does not seem worth the effort.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How long would it take to travel through a wormhole? by user76219 on physics.stackexchange.com
 
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A: Is there a way to find which MO questions/answers point to which others?

nicaelYou can go to: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/linked/{post-id-there} E.g.: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/linked/31222/

 
4:01 PM
I assume posting a new question that is a duplicate of something, just for the sake of creating a sign-post, is not a good idea? (hypothetical question)
 
4:14 PM
@Vogel612'sShadow gone
 
~celebrate
 
~O~
 
4:33 PM
SmokeDetector's Commands wiki page is ready! github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: I need help finding this shoujo manga name by San on anime.stackexchange.com
 
hmm... well there's no other word for that. soo...
someone please check and fp that
 
@SmokeDetector ignore
 
@ProgramFOX Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
 
thanks ;)
 
4:37 PM
Don't you have privileges?
 
not sure.
wouldn't want them anyways
 
apparently you don't
oh, okay
 
user259867
in CoGro Musings, 10 hours ago, by jmac
So do we prioritize German over Korean, for instance? Well the TOEIC scores would seem to say that Germans are better at English reading than the Koreans, but population-wise there are more German-speakers. Right now I'm just trying to gather what data I can so that we can in the hopes that it helps inform our decision-making.
 
user259867
Stack Overflow in even more crazy moonspeak languages...
 
4:46 PM
Health has now 200 committers!
 
user259867
Yep, with 12.5% coming from Lifehacks, the site with the largest overlap with Health userbase.
 
I can see how this will not work out.
2
 
user259867
Oct 29 '14 at 5:34, by Weapon of Choice
Imagining the pics of body parts tagged ... no thanks.
 
My first question on health.se will definitely be "Can you catch aids from having sex with a chicken?"
 
4:55 PM
@JasonC haha
 
Number #7 of your second link is hilarious too.
 
If health goes public I'm going to start posting answers on Yahoo! suggesting that people ask their questions there instead. Hopefully, over time, it will lead to great fun.
 
@JasonC or people grow smart.... yeah, what the heck is going through my mind
 
/me recalls @JasonC's chicken butt episode
Nov 4 '14 at 18:29, by Jason C
Lol, the "Chicken Butt Event"
 
5:07 PM
@Braiam That's preposterous.
@InfiniteRecursion Please refrain from saying ch****n b*tt, or I will have to flag as offensive.
On a different note; referrer link information to questions on SE sites is not publicly available, correct?
 
user259867
@JasonC Correct. The only thing we see is someone getting Announcer, etc badges. You can't even tell for which post.
 
@Woodface You can tell for which post: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/help/badges/54/…
 
user259867
@ProgramFOX Ah, right. I confused myself thinking of the Badges table in SEDE. That one does not identify the posts. My FR: Add Post Id to Badges table when applicable
 
upvoted
 
user259867
 
user259867
> ... is quite helpful to write essay writing.
 
user259867
Not so sure about that.
 
Yay, more Calc to do!
 
user259867
Boo, multiple-choice test driven prep.
 
user259867
It's supposed to be fun.
 
5:33 PM
Whatever, I'll have it all done by tomorrow.
Coz it's fun!
All calc is fun.
Maybe it'll unaddict me from tentacle wars…
 
user259867
 
user259867
Consider the answers.
 
It depends on how you look at it and how far in between the lines you want to read.
On the surface, at minimum, it's a bunch of noise followed by "please write this for me". But, of course, the desired behavior is also missing; the OP doesn't actually know how to solve the problem. So the unwritten question is "how do I convert calories to weight loss" or whatever; which isn't a programming question. It's kind of a weirdly disguised biology question.
And if you go even deeper you could choose to read it as the OP asking for weight loss methods. And if you have a cynical world view you might look at it as a pretty clever spam seed.
 
user259867
To me it reads as "how to lose weight as a programmer". In the style of early days "as a programmer" off-topic questions.
 
Let's migrate it to Health when in private beta, and see how that turns out.
2
 
5:41 PM
No matter how you look at it it's a crap question now.
 
user259867
This is at least a NAA... And the question is totally OT
 
Yeah
@Woodface stackoverflow.com/users/3487419/tony-wang I can't tell if his answers are spam or not.
 
user259867
He is posting crap answers to OT questions, promoting same packages. Not obviously spam. Just kill the questions, I suppose.
 
user259867
(When applicable)
 
user259867
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: CYGWIN on windows 2008R2 by vikas on superuser.com
 
No. Oh god please no.
 
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Q: Why to place an email as image or replacing "name@email.com" with "name at email dot com"

nicaelI noticed it in the profiles of some Stack Exchange users. So I wonder: did they want to protect themselves from spamming bots this way, or ...? Does it have to do with security? Because I guess that the bots can easily convert something like "name at email dot com" to "name@email.com"... ...

sorry me n00b :D
(and maybe tagging or... is it appropriate there?)
 
@AlexisKing Is that where you work or something?
 

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