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10:00 AM
And they say we don't have fun at SE.
(we don't, since it was probably nuked from orbit, but still)
 
Sam
@J.Steen ... to be continued.
 
omg. a tumblr-feed. My weekend is saved.
I made my coworkers stare at me by snickering loudly as I looked through the first posts.
 
Sam
lol
 
@J.Steen Close call, man. We couldn't let you spend your weekend anywhere else more productive :)
 
10:04 AM
Hmm. When is it appropriate to call out for a close-vote in here?
I imagine calling out every little cv-worthy question would get... spammy.
 
@J.Steen Well, yeah.
 
Sam
@J.Steen When you hear the crickets.
 
If it can't be closed soon enough or doesn't really seem to attract the necessary votes @J.Steen
 
writes a cricket-playing bot
 
Right. As I suspected.
 
10:06 AM
as long as you use this format [ @bar link ] you can do as many as you want
 
cv-plz's are best used when a question won't ever get enough attention to get closed on its own, when it cannot be closed soon enough, or when the last one close vote feels really important to you. That's when you should beg.
Or when you're on a tag cleanup, but warn everyone else first:
 
bowls a googly at @JanDvorak
 
I'm going to go through the [player] tag now, you can help close these questions if you want:
 
@bluet grabs smiting stick
 
10:07 AM
A'ight. Thanks for clarification.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Xtreme Muscle Pro Way To Burn Body Fat by ricarestu961 on meta.stackexchange.com
 
@Sam for more complex cases, try the chinese remainder theorem
 
Wow. The healthcaresup people are on a binge today.
 
not eating binge, apparently
 
I like to think of it read out as "Health care! S'up?"
 
Sam
10:10 AM
@Pham gone
Smokey's is also gone. But me no have privs.
 
@SmokeDetector gone
 
No dice.
 
Sam
3 mins...
 
Also - I now understand all them peeps that complain about getting review-banned. Two days for missing two audits in 24 hours. Admittedly they were incorrect reviews by me, so, hey. Not complaining. Just understanding.
 
Stop complaining @J.Steen
 
10:15 AM
@Bart You suck.
hands over a euro
 
I'm going to be rich in no time.
 
You did say...
 
@J.Steen citation-needed
 
Hi..
 
Sam
Hi..
 
10:16 AM
not falling for it
 
And gone.
 
Sam
@Pham gone
 
o/ @InfiniteRecursion
.. and others
 
remove the pins, remove tehm all
 
10:17 AM
Why @bluet?
 
space is scarce resource
 
Is pham a spam detection bot ??
 
He's trying...
 
Yep
 
Sam
>>info
 
10:18 AM
Silence
 
Designed by SE ??
 
Sam
...
 
Nope, by users @CheckBox
 
Sam
@CheckBox Made by a bunch of Taverners.
 
Should I unpin Bart's brilliant contribution?
 
10:19 AM
I love that Pham has reputation.
 
Otherwise it couldn't chat @J.Steen
 
@J.Steen He needs to in order to be able to chat
 
I know! It's so great.
 
Spam Q (91.1%): Are Republicans Thugs, by catar nishi, on meta.stackexchange.com.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: Are Republicans Thugs by catar nishi on meta.stackexchange.com
 
10:20 AM
>>status
 
Interesting choice of title on that one.
 
Sam
lol
 
@CheckBox #3
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
Sam
10:21 AM
@InfiniteRecursion Atm, only reply commands appear to work in the tavern.
 
@InfiniteRecursion Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
Sam
(There's been a lot of work done recently, so he's still a bit unstable)
 
So, like most users.
 
Good news is that Borkey is stable now.
 
10:22 AM
I think a particular group has targeted SE for their spams.. Almost all of the spam messages that I saw in SE were related/had the keyword "Muscle"
 
Plenty of them did, at least
 
@CheckBox it varies. There are indeed waves of spam that target the network. And we only get to see the tip of the iceberg.
 
Should I unpin @Bart's rant?
 
why?
 
@InfiniteRecursion Nah.
 
10:25 AM
@InfiniteRecursion yes
 
Sam
@InfiniteRecursion Nah.
 
I liked what he said And we only get to see the tip of the iceberg
 
@CheckBox And that is actually true. A lot of spam is removed before they are presented to you, even before they are loaded into the cache.
 
9 mins ago, by bluet
remove the pins, remove tehm all
Majority wins; pinned messages stay. :)
 
Spam Q (91.1%): The breaks very efficiently scalp, by Aliza Gul, on drupal.stackexchange.com.
 
10:27 AM
high-fives @Sam
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: The breaks very efficiently scalp by Aliza Gul on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
Sam
high-fives @Uni back
 
high-fives @Uni's back
2
 
high-fives @Uni's back
 
Sam
>>hallo
 
10:29 AM
ouch
 
high-fives @inf , and gets hand bloodied by sharp beak
 
Sam
>>panic
 
user202362
Oo it's a duck :x
 
user202362
10:32 AM
BTW does anyone know how to restart iphone using itune?
 
Sam
... that works.
 
user202362
my sleep/wake button is kind of stuck
 
>>fox
 
 
The power button doesn't work?
 
Sam
10:34 AM
I don't like apples. Eggs-boxes are alright, but really, just stick with blackberries.
 
You could try removing the batt... oh.
 
Sam
@chmod711telkitty Does it need a clean?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Can people log into SAO after the initial trapping? by Sakura Kinomoto on anime.stackexchange.com
 
Sam
"19 mins ago" Lag much? o_o
 
Not a spam
It is an off topic answer
 
@Pham fp
 
@Unihedro FP acknowledged.
 
However, NAA flags are needed.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: Why are all my images, on theswordshop.com coming out much darker in the front end than they are in the back end? by TheKnightlyWebGuy on magento.stackexchange.com
 
11:02 AM
1
Q: Background section does not scale background

fredleyI've added my Background, but it's overflowed the region:

^ awesome
 
Sam
lol
 
/me is loading lolipop in vm
 
user202362
@Sam needs a fix
 
Sam
Hmm.
 
@chmod711telkitty Just smash your pc with a guitar. Then you won't worry about either device working correctly.
 
user202362
11:16 AM
I have no guitar
 
There's an app for that
 
what to do with a broken pc and guitar #lifehacks
2
 
@bluet Oh?
 
@chmod711telkitty amazon.com
 
just curious, does anyone in here want this to be [status-completed] meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/284688/… ?
 
11:21 AM
@Bart, first thank you very much for editing my question on meta, about the questions, I modfied them several times about one months before
 
@Ahmad it got reopened I saw? Nice. Seems clear enough by now
 
user202362
@Mooseman amazon doesn't deliver to Australia a lot of the times
 
@chmod711telkitty Command not recognized.
Left the bot on...
@chmod711telkitty Command not recognized.
 
Sam
lol
 
YES, my bot does recognize edits!
 
Sam
11:23 AM
Congrats
 
Android: "Optimizing app 1 of 70."
 
@Bart what about my questions on the main site!
 
Thanks Sam! It's using DomNodeInserted.
 
@Ahmad I didn't review them
 
cough nothing cough
 
Sam
11:23 AM
Does it pick-up partial name pings though @Moo
 
Reminds me. I need milk for this coffee.
 
Sam
Apparently not. :/
 
status-bydesign
 
@J.Steen blasphemy!!
 
Sam
status-ok
 
11:24 AM
@Bart Better than sugar!
 
@Bart I know you are some volunteer users, but I waited also along to see them reopened, they write Edit it and we check them, but it seems they don't. Moreover, it took me time to find good answers for them, I think they are useful questions for future readers too
 
user202362
@Mooseman ?ping
 
@chmod711telkitty Command not recognized.
 
user202362
@Mooseman !poke
 
@chmod711telkitty Command not recognized.
@Mooseman salute
 
11:25 AM
@Ahmad If a closed question is edited, it enters the re-open review queue. You might think they're useful for future readers - five other people probably disagreed.
 
@Mooseman Command not recognized.
 
Sam
@Mooseman Command not recognized
 
@Mooseman Command not recognized.
 
Sam
wth
 
@J.Steen So, how I can know that they are revieweed and how to know they are in waiting list?
 
11:26 AM
@Ahmad You don't.
 
This could loop badly... let me get the Moosebot account...
 
Sam
@Mooseman salute
 
@Sam Yes, sir! 21-gun salute now commencing...
 
The reason they wrote for closing no further is valid: you can check stackoverflow.com/questions/22457636/…, stackoverflow.com/questions/26636268/…
at least they could change the reasons
 
That's how you know you're an owner.
@Moosebot salute
 
user280395
11:28 AM
@Mooseman Yes, sir! 21-gun salute now commencing...
 
@rene thank you, I also removed my comments
 
Moosebot can't cv though. That's the problem.
@Moosebot aaai
 
user280395
@Mooseman Anti-artificial artificial intellegence. We bots will rise against the humans... (Maybe Elon Musk was right.)
 
o/
 
\o
 
user280395
11:30 AM
\o/
 
Frightening.
 
Optimizing app 8 of 70.
 
My Nexus 5 did that faster.
Then I got an iPhone instead.
 
Sam
@Moosebot Well, there are already 3-4 bots in here...
 
user280395
@Sam Command not recognized.
 
11:32 AM
Inventory Wipe Horror Festival!
 
@J.Steen But the reason they gave for closing them is not valid anymore!!!
 
@J.Steen I'm running in a VM, so I don't expect it to be perfect. That said, I thought it'd be faster. Optimizing app 10 of 70.
 
I believe the consensus on meta is "closed is closed".
As in, it doesn't matter what reason it was closed as. If it should still be closed, there's no reason to change the reason.
Correct me if I'm wrong, tavern.
 
You mean they rarely consider to reopen a question, no matter how much good!
 
No. We just don't often re-open questions. All questions that are edited are considered.
 
11:35 AM
Or you don't have enough time for them?
 
This is nothing personal. It's just that most questions (I'm generalising here, I don't specifically mean your questions) are not worthy of being reopened.
 
Inb4 achievement get: Anger Jan Dvorak in the tavern twice in a few days
 
The reopen-review-queue is thoroughly vetted. Don't worry about that.
Uhr. Vetted might be the wrong word.
Not quite native speaker.
Polled? Gone-through? Whatever.
 
I also don't mean personal, I really think those questions are very straightforward, good for community, for future readers... just its not fair to the question themselve that they be closed
They also both have answers!
 
Sam
@Ahmad I doubt you'd have the same view if they weren't your questions.
 
11:39 AM
@Sam I was wondering how to type that politely. Thank you.
 
12 of 70 :(
 
@Mooseman Your VM is shit. =D
 
Sam
@J.Steen lol, np.
 
@Sam they are two short questions and common, I saw similar common questions get many up-votes here, I was faced with the problem and I am concerened with future users
 
@J.Steen You can always say what you feel and then delete it within two minutes
 
11:41 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: Why are all my images, on theswordshop.co.uk coming out much darker in the front end than they are in the back end? by TheKnightlyWebGuy on magento.stackexchange.com
 
VMWare is staying right at 25% processor in TM -- 1 core. Maybe I'll give it a second when I reboot it.
 
Octo-core Android!
Deadlock all the pipes.
 
Just maybe these questions specially this one stackoverflow.com/questions/22457636/… less happens for users who their language is English, but for non-English people its a vital question
 
Sam
@Ahmad Each question is different and can not easily be compared with others of a similar nature.
Each OP is different, etc, etc.
 
Each OP is different applies more in my case!
 
11:44 AM
I'm tempted to use Jan's method, at the moment.
 
@Sam Does the number of closed questions take into account for question ban? if I can reopen them does it have any benefit to me to leave the ban
 
Sam
@J.Steen nods politely
 
@Ahmad dv cast
17 of 70
 
Sam
@Ahmad No here knows the exact algo used to determine whether to ban someone or not.
 
@Mooseman It's speeding up!
 
11:46 AM
@Mooseman Pardon?!
 
Sam
@Mooseman Give it more coffee! :D
 
@Ahmad read the transcript ;)
@Sam I'll pour it all over the keyboard!
 
Sam
No no, pour it into a usb cable.
Make sure you get the right coffee drivers though.
 
Anyway I think the system is not fair to the banned questions, I asked it on meta and didn't recieve any answer for it. it seems they don't care to those who got banned, no mechanism for reevaluation the quesiotns....
 
The purpose of the ban is not to be easily escapeable
 
11:49 AM
 
As I've repeatedly said - there is a mechanism for reevaluating edited questions.
 
It's not about easy or hard, they just have no mechanism
 
@Ahmad You don't listen. GTFO please.
 
I mean a mechanism so a banned user to leave the ban
 
There is. You just don't qualify.
 
11:51 AM
I modified my questions but they may never get up-vote but the questions are normal, what is your mechanism to consider them! should I delete them? you say again no deletion doesn't help. Should I wait for a year? ....
 
I had a question ban once. Mr. Shog himself fixed my account and helped me do the rest.
 
Sam
Aww, poor little moo moo.
 
38 of 70
 
throws up hands
isn't sure how he physically does that, but there he is
 
Grr how can I stop the Technical Preview from auto-updating? I DON'T LIKE THE NEW BUILD.
 
11:53 AM
@shog9 @balpha hi guys - sorry to ping you - we're just discussing in the Python room whether we should start reverting the changes for that re-tag mishap, or if a dev's working on a way to do it in bulk via some DB operations... We're quite willing to help out if possible, but obviously don't want to conflict with anything that may already be in progress...
 
@Sam I had 61 rep then. Now I'm nearly 12k.
 
@JonClements According to BoltClock, a dev has been notified.
 
retag mishap?
 
@JonClements You're gonna die.
 
Sam
@Mooseman :D
 
11:54 AM
@hichris123 Neither do I! I want 1) manual updates and 2) local accounts to work with everything including Cortana.
 
@Mooseman Good for you, one helped you but no one I found to help me such way.
 
@J.Steen Yeah... just talking to him in another room :)
 
@Ahmad It's the same advice...
 
@Mooseman @hichris123 I sodding hate the always-online accounts.
@JonClements Ah, cool!
 
@JonClements I don't think we have an automatic way. I've asked the user in question to go fix it, but he hasn't reacted yet. If you want to help out, that's certainly appreciated
 
11:55 AM
@J.Steen You're putting down sod? What?
 
He's asleep, we'll start rolling stuff back now.
 
@balpha it's 5am his time or something... okay, we'll divvy up the work in the Python room and get it fixed....
 
@Mooseman Ploughing the way for the new generation something something
 
@J.Steen O.o
 
sod = state of obvious despair?
 
11:56 AM
I HAVEN'T HAD COFFEE.
IT ALL APPLIES.
 
Also in my answers to this question meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/284271/…, I explained how we can decrease the tendency to getting around the ban
 
"answers"?
 
Comments.
 
But if the system doesn't care to the solution, I have no way just to help myself by myself!!!
 
Are we really anything but comments, all of us?
I really should have that coffee.
 
11:59 AM
@Ahmad no
 
39 of 70
@Moosebot hi
 
user280395
@Mooseman Hello, humans.
 
I tried to be a honest user, no fraud vote, no second account, improving questions, asking a solution for banned user in meta.....
but if the system doesn't care, I may don't care too
 

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