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12:01 AM

Should anything be done about questions with a bunch of similar answers?

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Q: What's the difference between Ruby and JRuby?

Can anyone please provide me in layman's terms the difference between developing a JRuby and a Ruby, Rails application? I use NetBeans as my Ruby on Rails IDE and every-time I create a project is asks me that question - and I don't really get the difference. Are there any pro and cons?

The last few answers are almost the same.

Braiam

@KevinBrown time to close it

user259867

12:31 AM

user259867

What could possibly go wrong?

SmokeDetector

12:55 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: couple of Buy Fifa 15 Coins by user49204 on webmasters.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu, SPAM

SmokeDetector

@Fundamental Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

user259867

Same user as yesterday.

user259867

Is it normal that "blacklisted user" wasn't reported, @hichris123?

user259867

yesterday, by SmokeDetector

@hichris123 Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

user259867

12:59 AM

Not that it matters much: the spam was caught anyway.
And now it's gone, with a user.

bjb568

am awake

bjb568

1:14 AM

hollylugia

or whatever it is

@Doorknob 2 left

user259867

►

hichris123

@Fundamental Same user?

Or username?

Huh, that's weird.

user259867

@hichris123 Same user, id 49204. It shows now in my flag history.

user259867

(since the user itself is deleted.

user259867

My guess was that the keyword match takes priority and it does not come to blacklist check. But I didn't look in the code...

hichris123

1:21 AM

@Fundamental nope

That probably means we're doing something wrong with strings vs. numbers again. :(

user259867

Rewrite the whole thing in JS. :P

user259867

But the "novice" guy was repeatedly reported as blacklisted, so sometimes it works.

Doorknob

1:37 AM

@bjb568 argh... it's so tantalizing

bjb568

1:50 AM

Will now do teh homeworkz.

user259867

Now I want a Notepad++ site.

bjb568

use teh good idez

user259867

Right, lately I shifted toward Caret in Chrome.

bjb568

y u no sublime/coda

Doorknob

@bjb568 @Fundamental "IDE"? What is this heresy?

bjb568

2:03 AM

no, not vim

Kevin Brown

Caret looks interesting :o

bjb568

But is in browser and thus inefficient.

Jan Dvorak

Because you surely need every little last bit of performance in a text editor

Kevin Brown

As someone who has used Atom since it went open source, a slow and inefficient editor usually doesn't bother me

(Atom was incredibly slow and can still be bad on large files)

bjb568

@JanDvorak Exactly! Somebody finally gets it!

Braiam

2:17 AM

I'm not sure if Jan was sarcastic, but vanilla Chrome is very resource hungry already and adding a text editor/ide is not going to help

btw, they fixed some memory fragmentations in the 40 build...

Jan Dvorak

\o/

Did they fix the raw consumption amount as well?

user259867

Half the time (like now) I'm using a Chromebook, so the issue of being in browser is moot. And 90% of the code I write is for Chrome extensions anyway.

bjb568

Wait you're what what whating chromebook?

Braiam

@JanDvorak no, they were CVE's fixes

mm... memory corruption, not fragmentation -_-

Jan Dvorak

-_-

not as exciting

hichris123

2:34 AM

@JanDvorak Gimme a bug and I'll take a look at it.

(crbug.com)

bjb568

slaps bug onto hichris's forehead

Braiam

what the... chromium has a "purge memory" button?! that's the same as FF "minimize memory usage"!

Jan Dvorak

It actually uninstalls Chromium

Braiam

HA! I knew it!

hichris123

2:50 AM

@bjb568 I meant a bug link or id.

Doorknob

3:02 AM

YAY! Vim reached 100% commitment!

cue SE team shutting it down again

user259867

I'm sure this time they won't block it from entering private beta. Public beta is a question mark.

bjb568

You know what I'd like to do? I'd like to close all essay questions as Not a Real Question. This question is ambiguous, vague, incomplete, overly broad, or rhetorical and cannot be reasonably answered in its current form.

And suspend my spanish teacher to cool down.

Braiam

I want a pony and a unicorn

bjb568

GOD WOMAN, I CAN'T DO 2 WEEKS OF WORK IN 3 HOURS!

Doorknob

And I want a fully graduated Vim site with 10k visits a day.

Braiam

3:15 AM

keep dreaming about little knobs, @Doorknob :P

my wish is more realistic

bjb568

little… knobs?

hichris123

I love watching this "support tool" run which just makes the CPU go to 25% and outputs nothing.

bjb568

yay

is it like IE's diagnostic tool for website errors that cranks for 30 seconds and comes up with "coz it's a HTTP 404"?

hichris123

Nah, it's actually running sysdump or whatever. But it's been running for ~10 minutes now and the progress bar hasn't moved.

user259867

3:39 AM

Penalty for being a problem child: having kids of your own. Penalty for being a thorn in the side of moderators: becoming a moderator.

Tweeted by shog9 on January 27, 2015 at 2:00 AM

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user259867

Someone on User Experience? But their election isn't over yet.

Jan Dvorak

CM omniscience?

SmokeDetector

4:25 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How to Boost your production? by sikaroyed on drupal.stackexchange.com

bluet

cool still see a couple stars from the Morning! train

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector tpu yo

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

bluet

> Honeypot is an anti-spam module.

did this answer really deserve -4? sometimes the voting on meta is just very unusual

bjb568

4:45 AM

Jan 23 at 20:18, by bjb568

bluet

evil closet monkey from family guy probably

user259867

Pretty sure that bjb's support means they are doomed.

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bjb568

:O

Teh doomz!

Night!

Infinite Recursion

5:12 AM

Since @Fundamental manually posts StackStatus tweets as messages in this room, should I modify feeds to post StackStatus as messages?

bluet

need a bot that oneboxes them here, but feeds could be fine till then

Infinite Recursion

Thanks, will do.

Feeds

Infinite Recursion has made a change to the feeds posted into this room

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: http://www.freechargecontroller.org/ LO side assembly by user2209542 on electronics.stackexchange.com

user259867

Actually, these were not stack status messages, but rather the juicier bits of SE Twittersphere. Hand selected and posted when there is a lull in conversation.

Infinite Recursion

5:24 AM

:O

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/145486/…

bluet

how do you know that twitter is a sphere? i thought it was flat

Shokhet

@Sue Ping ;-)

Andrew T.

drupal still not gone!?

@SmokeDetector might need better title, but i'm lost

SmokeDetector

5:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: COMBINATIONS OF MEASURABLE FUNCTIONS by Roaa murdy on math.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Supplements For Muscle Gain by Hona Mona on meta.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector tpu and nuked instantly

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Jan Dvorak

Is the bayesian filter even running?

SmokeDetector

6:07 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Here comes the part that tend to make some women by busucher on drupal.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

It seems that people are willing to swallow just anything as long as it's expensive.

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector trued

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SmokeDetector

6:27 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Why two connected 1.5 volt battery become 3 volt by matty kong on physics.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector tpu abusive?

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Blacklisted user.

Jan Dvorak

yesss

Andrew T.

poor matty, getting detected because of repeating characters

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Why do branched chain compounds have lower boiling points than the corresponding straight chain isomers? by rubes on chemistry.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

6:47 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@JanDvorak Blacklisted user.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Decrypting a Cookie by Gratin on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

7:20 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: hollister hoodies in this case by babylisscurl on drupal.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

@SmokeDetector krf

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@JanDvorak Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Patrick Hofman

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28165123/…

bluet

7:49 AM

wonder if NY SE has day off tomorrow for snow day

SmokeDetector

8:17 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: have you Tried the Natural Weight Loss Supplement? by jamekram on superuser.com

Sam

8:34 AM

Morning!

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Shadow Wizard

Morning!

4

Jan Dvorak

Morning!

3

Bart

Morning!

4

DroidDev

Morning!

3

bummi

Morning!

3

FlamePrincessϡ

8:38 AM

Morning!

3

S̷̨̳͕̞͓̦̫̲̦͕̭̗̦̲͈ͭ̄ͮ͂̽ͤ͗͞hͣ̌̆̄

Morning!

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Andrew T.

Morning!

4

SPArchaeologist

Morning!

4

PeterJ

8:55 AM

Evening!

Shadow Wizard

noooooooooooooooo

FlamePrincessϡ

nooooooooooooooo

Shadow Wizard

Peter, the Train Breaker

PeterJ

You'll need to standardise on UTC to force compliance

DroidDev

isWeeping

Bart

8:57 AM

@PeterJ you just need to move to the real world. None of that upside down nonsense.

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FlamePrincessϡ

isSleeping

Shadow Wizard

eh, sock made a mess in star wall

PeterJ

@Bart, wait you're right I'd hung my clock upside down

SPArchaeologist

9:12 AM

23 hours ago, by SPArchaeologist

Fact: no one will react if a full morning train is starred but war will ensue if stars are misused during a bash (or April 1)

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist very true!

SmokeDetector

9:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Exercise Routines To Lose Weight Fast by Quna vena on meta.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector tpuuuuuuuuu

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Hobo Sapiens

10:06 AM

I am always confused about what is NAA, VLQ. Here's a link-only answer. Is this VLQ, NAA or just a downvote? stackoverflow.com/a/28167281/1864610

Shadow Wizard

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Q: Your answer is in another castle: when is an answer not an answer?

I think we can all agree, this sucks: If you've been around a little while, you've probably encountered hundreds of answers like this in various forums, some of them even marked as "The Answer" by well-meaning1 forum admins looking to close a thread. We could try to enumerate the commonly-obse...

discussion link-only-answers not-an-answer faq-proposed

happy reading! :)

PeterJ

@shadow, that's the definition I use for NAA that (mostly) seems to go OK, but the more confusing one IMO is whether 'QWERTY123' times 10 is just a NAA or abusive as some suggest. Do you know of an authorative answer for that? I think I've seen a few varying opinions.

Hobo Sapiens

@ShadowWizard Thanks for the link. I flagged as NAA. We'll see what happens since I seem invariably to get it wrong :(

Andrew T.

I flagged as NAA. If I strip the link, the answer is "useless".

Shadow Wizard

10:21 AM

@PeterJ useless rant can be flagged as "not welcome in our community" which is part of offensive, as far as I know.

Andrew T.

@ShadowWizard (again,) Android.SE mod doesn't seem to agree though

PeterJ

@Andrew that's what actually reminded me of it - that seems to be interpreted a lot of different ways so I've always gone just for NAA, although it does mean total crap sitting around longer.

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT. sorry but shog9 is the big boss, not some random moderator. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234032/…

PeterJ

@shadow thanks I thought I'd seen Shog post something similar, that was the authorative answer I was looking for

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard fake, it is known that Shog9 is just a medusa head escaped from an old Castlevania game, so Dracula must still be hiding somewhere else.

Shadow Wizard

10:27 AM

@PeterJ cheers! :)

@SPArchaeologist medusa or no medusa, he's the Head :)

Andrew T.

no prob, as the case is clearer now, I promise I won't link to that meta.android post again :)

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