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6:01 PM

@AstroCB I didn't see an edit worth keeping.

Discussion between bjb568 and Lightne…

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@bjb568 You underestimate the power of proper grammar and wording, which makes people actually understand what you're saying (especially non-native speakers).

bjb568

@AstroCB This one is better.

@bjb568: 4) What? No... Let's not continue this discussion at all because it's lost all logic! — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago

^ Heh.

AstroCB

I need 2k rep on M.SE.

I forgot how much I dislike suggested edits.

Unihedron

xD

iStimple

naa stackoverflow.com/a/25342661/3041194

bjb568

6:16 PM

Helpful? The mods must be crazy.

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Everybody knows mods aren't supposed to delete anything.

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Unihedron

Ask a 10ker whether a mod deleted or the community did.

iStimple

@bjb568 what? mods delete all the time

Unihedron

DELEEET!

bjb568

@iStimple Ah… no.

"i haz prblm plz slv" "Please delete" "Stahp annoying us, the community can handle it"

iStimple

@BradLarson This one looks suspicious stackoverflow.com/questions/25342575/…

AstroCB

6:22 PM

bjb568

They won't even delete the jQuery comments I flagged as noise…

Shog9

@bjb568 that is in no way less ambiguous

bjb568

@Shog9 No, that's what I'm complaining about and saying should be made less ambiguous.

All of these in fact are horrible.

^ This too

Ambiguous.

Also, grey.

Shog9

in Discussion between bjb568 and Lightness Races in Orbit, 2 mins ago, by Shog9

"Too minor" was a good idea, but it should always have been "put up or shut up". There is a massive amount of confusion as to whether it is meant for trivial but helpful edits or entirely superfluous edits or actively harmful edits (nevermind there's a separate reason for the latter).

Jamal

@bjb568 Some community members were also responsible for upvoting that piece of crap, along with some of its answers. sigh

iStimple

6:33 PM

in Discussion between bjb568 and Lightness Races in Orbit, 52 secs ago, by iStimple

@Shog9 But there is no time to improve an edit, since the edit will already of been approved!

spam stackoverflow.com/questions/25326110/htaccess-and-301-redirects/…

bjb568

in Discussion between bjb568 and Lightness Races in Orbit, 8 mins ago, by Shog9

So, we're removing it. Entirely.

:O

iStimple

@bjb568 is why we can't have nice things!

Shog9

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A: Edit reviewers don't know how to review because nobody told them!

I agree. Whoever wrote those reasons should be doomed to answer questions like this under a pseudonym for all eternity. But enough about the past. Nobody is gonna read a help center article. If they were, they'd have already read it when they got notified of the privilege. So here's what I thi...

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Jamal

You're so offensive folks. You can do only favor sometimes. — Emre Gülönü 9 mins ago

AstroCB

Ok, when are the changes going to be made? — bjb568 1 min ago

In 6-8 weeks, newb — Shog9 ♦ 46 secs ago

bjb568

6:42 PM

In 6-8 weeks, newb — Shog9 ♦ 48 secs ago

Ugh, too slow.

iStimple

bad question and answers stackoverflow.com/questions/25320755/…

spam right? stackoverflow.com/a/25321436/3041194

Jamal

nope stackoverflow.com/questions/25411996/…

AstroCB

This synonym needs to be approved.

bjb568

@iStimple Flagged as spam.

user163250

VLQ and/or NAA: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/269343/456814

bjb568

6:45 PM

@iStimple CV'd

iStimple

@bjb568 ty, my hands are tied, all out of cv's

bjb568

@AstroCB Seems valid. Oh, that's my own.

Unihedron

Oh no! Used up my CVs for today.

bjb568

On noes!

Doorknob

Off yeses!

iStimple

6:49 PM

crap stackoverflow.com/questions/25317351/…

rlemon

so I gave a bounty on SU bringing be back down below 200 rep, and i'm seeing ads again. I didn't expect that (honestly I didn't think about it)

and I lost the link to the whining room

so here it is.

iStimple

spam stackoverflow.com/questions/25302832/…

Unihedron

Poor you :(

rlemon

ikr!

such a shame

Jan Dvorak

cough adblock cough

iStimple

6:52 PM

spam stackoverflow.com/questions/25304792/…

Jan Dvorak

@iStimple self-answers with links?

Unihedron

@JanDvorak aka Spam

Jan Dvorak

not always

iStimple

14 hours ago, by Brad Larson

Reviewers are approving many of these answers, and arguing with our review bans because they claim the spam answers address the question asked. I'd like to have a little more attentive group catch these and flag them so we can destroy the posts and accounts.

crap stackoverflow.com/questions/25295820/…

spam stackoverflow.com/a/25286395/3041194

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238326/…

Jamal

7:01 PM

#include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> int main() { FILE *fp; fp = fopen("file.txt", "w+"); int i; int pi[100]; int pos, neg; for(i = 0, pos = -5, neg = 0; i < 20; i++){ if(i % 2 == 0){ pos += 10; fprintf(fp, "%d," ,pos); }else { neg -= 10; fprintf( fp, "%d," ,neg); } } int j = 0; char c; rewind(fp); while(!feof(fp)){ fscanf(fp, "%d," ,&i ); pi[j] = 3 * i; j++; rewind(fp); for(j = 0; j < 20; j++){ fprintf( fp, "%d," ,pi[j]); } return 0; } — Igor 7 mins ago

Unihedron

@JanDvorak gone

rene

@iStimple do you spam flag that or do you use other with a link to that message from Brad?

iStimple

@rene I'm guessing flag as spam so that the system can auto-handle it? @BradLarson ?

AstroCB

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Q: What is considered jQuery?

Is this code a jQuery just because I added $(document).ready( to it? The initial code is working JavaScript code. The reason why I am asking is because I was told to convert this code from JavaScript to jQuery. I know many of you say that I shouldn't if it is already working; however, it is a wo...

Look at the original.

Why would a client require something that works fine in pure JavaScript to be written with jQuery?

Jamal

Classes must've started!

iStimple

7:08 PM

lol bro ^

Jamal

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/8506845/…

AstroCB

@amenadiel That was added within the edit grace period. — AstroCB 8 mins ago

Nope. That was already in the original question. You can click in the edit history to verify that. — amenadiel 7 mins ago

@amenadiel If you edit a question within the grace period (5 minutes), it will appear as part of the original. — AstroCB 3 mins ago

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A: What is considered jQuery?

This is a common misunderstanding. JavaScript is a programming language. jQuery is a library of functions. jQuery does not "extend" JavaScript, it isn't a subset of it, and code written with jQuery is just JavaScript code (or CoffeeScript code, or TypeScript code, or Dart code) that uses functio...

iStimple

@rene this is the query I'm using to try to find them, starting from bottom up. A lot of them are real suspicious but haven't posted in this room since not sure.

AstroCB

Classic Fastest Gun in the West answer.

6 upvotes for a paragraph and a half on why jQuery is still JavaScript.

bjb568

@AstroCB Because the client is an idiot?

iStimple

7:15 PM

crap stackoverflow.com/questions/25191978/…

rene

That are not a few posts...

iStimple

this user has 3 answers, that all link to acumatica.com.sg

Unihedron

@iStimple When in doubt flag it out ;)

Moderator flags, not VLQ!

bjb568

I… didn't.

iStimple

@Unihedron just did 1 other flag for that guy, have mod look into it

Unihedron

7:20 PM

Good idea.

iStimple

@rene can help find crap too, just start from bottom though, since I think @BradLarson only wants recent ones for this , but the query can help find link onlys as well that aren't spam

rene

Where are you in that list?

iStimple

?

rene

I mean on what date are you so we don't flag the same post :)

iStimple

8/12

rene

7:24 PM

OK, I''m on the 8/16 now

bjb568

@rene Are you sure you'''re on 8/16?

Brad Larson

@iStimple This in regards to the Acumatica stuff?

I dealt with the one account, and am looking into the others. Not quite the same as our Recovery Toolbox friends, though.

rene

@bjb568 uhuhuh...don't dare to say yes or no

iStimple

@BradLarson Wasn't sure about the acumatica stuff, so flagged for mod to look into :)

rene

@BradLarson Can you also give some advice on how to flag those tricky spam posts where 2 users ask questions/answers to spam links? Do you need an other flag on those posts?

iStimple

7:29 PM

naa-or-maybe-spam stackoverflow.com/a/25262695/3041194 ?

Brad Larson

@rene I like an "other" flag describing the situation: "There's something shady about the asker and answerer here, two new users asking an off-topic question and leaving an answer promoting a product." Something like that tells us to dig a little deeper than just a spam flag (which might get validated by the community when none of us are around, causing us to miss the spammer accounts).

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rene

OK, will do...

Brad Larson

I really do wish we got informed in some way about posts deleted by community spam flags, so that we could go back and look into all the accounts involved. Most of our spam comes from greater Asia and is left at a time when our US or European-centric moderators are offline. A few of these answers were deleted as spam by the community, but I had to search back through the deleted posts to clean up and find their other accounts.

iStimple

naa stackoverflow.com/a/25225932/3041194

AstroCB

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A: Are ignored / favorite tags both limited to 1400?

I'm actually amazed the site even works for you. Ignoring tags, with "Hide questions in your ignored tags" enabled (rather than "Gray out questions in your ignored tags") isn't free: the server needs to construct custom queries to filter out that data. Filtering out 1400 is... wow. We have previo...

rene

7:46 PM

Member for 14 days, ignoring 1400 tags. Are you sure you are in the right place? — Jongware 2 hours ago

:)

Brad Larson

@iStimple Looking at that, not seeing a lot of hits in that query. These spammers generally aren't leaving really short answers (which is why they're making it through review). Also, a lot of self-answers in that, which doesn't fit the pattern of our spammers. Instead of filtering on length, could we filter on answers left within a day of the question? That seems to fit them better.

This is the kind of question-answer pair I'm looking for:

iStimple

@BradLarson done

Brad Larson

8:02 PM

@iStimple That still seems to be picking up self-answers like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/25314981/… and I saw at least one from a non-new account.

GnomeSlice

downloadninja.com

so sexy

AstroCB

^ Spam

hichris123

:P

Ffisegydd

Hey guys. Some members of the Python chatroom have been seeming to getting revenge downvotes today as a group, I realise that we should wait until the script runs to reverse any but I also got this question on one of my questions.

Was wondering if there were any mods about who could shed some light on this?

Brad Larson

@iStimple - Also: that "there's something shady flag" probably doesn't apply to this: stackoverflow.com/a/25188467/19679 . It's a self-answer, but the problem there is that the question looks asked just so they can promote their blog, not that two users are coordinating things. I'll still deal with it, though.

iStimple

8:05 PM

@BradLarson done

Ffisegydd

Ah seems that both the answer and the user have been deleted.

And it seems he's decided to post another one here

Brad Larson

@Ffisegydd Yeah, we know about it. It's a single user trolling via various accounts. I think those votes should be invalidated when the script runs.

Ffisegydd

Yeah we assumed so, had some problems with the same user ourselves in chat. According to this latest message I should inform you that he contacted you via twitter? :P I want it on record that I passed on the very important message...

Brad Larson

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A: Matplotlib tight_layout causing RuntimeError

Hi fizzygood please let Martijn Pieters and Brad Larson know I contacted them in Twitter. Only them I can ask for help, thank you.

Jamal

...

Ffisegydd

8:11 PM

Exactly :P

Brad Larson

No one's contacted me yet via Twitter. I'm somewhat disappointed.

Ffisegydd

;_; he...he... he lied to me...

Bart

Ah, it's sumer time again ...

Brad Larson

Nah, not Sumer. Someone pretending to be Sumer. Sumer's at least entertaining.

@bradlarson Hi I am Sumer Kolcak. Please don't flag my posts, I have a whole half month lol.

Tweeted by SumerKolcak90 on August 20, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Ffisegydd

Whoever it is is a regular of the Python chat, at least to know some details that only a regular might pick up (unless they went through a lot of transcripts). I'm pretty sure on who it actually is.

Brad Larson

8:18 PM

There we go.

hichris123

@bradlarson Please visit my site where we can talk better http://www.liveleak.com/c/SUMER---KOLCAK

Tweeted by SumerKolcak90 on August 20, 2014 at 8:20 PM

I think not.

Bart

"Hey @bradlarson, step into my van, I have candy"

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