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Shadow Wizard

3:11 PM

@Bart ehm, what you mean "us"? :D

Bart

All I know is that you are very much included. Whether or not that's a good thing I leave up to you to determine

Shadow Wizard

I take it as a compliment. So, thank you @Bart!

Found what's up with DroidDev

GnomeSlice

3:33 PM

Today's Listening | Chiptune

user202362

GnomeSlice

UGH my laptop headphone jack is fuct or something

it's way louder on the left than on the right

user202362

I used to want to be special, nowadays I just want blend in ...

GnomeSlice

fixt it

Alex

my corsair vengeance 1500 headphones are on the blink

i'm gutted

i paid so much money for them, i dont know if i still have the receipt, i hope i can find it, perhaps i can take them back... i dont remember if i bought them in the shop or not

maybe it was amazon

GnomeSlice

3:42 PM

I hate that

I have Senneheiser PX 100-2 phones

And several sets of the previous PX100

Alex

i got them on amazon, in august... so i'm hoping that means i can send them back

amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005QUQP7G/…

user163250

Need two more close votes on this if anyone has them: stackoverflow.com/questions/24526566/…

user163250

cv-pls

jadarnel27

I am no longer at 7777 rep. It is a disappointing day on Stack Overflow.

rene

@Cupcake done

@jadarnel27 done

GnomeSlice

3:45 PM

amazon.ca/Sennheiser-100-II-Ear-Miniheadphone-Black/dp/…

These things sound far, far better than they have any right to.

My absolute favourite phones, best combination of sound quality and small size.

I <3 them

rene

I like that Indigo Rub track

GnomeSlice

@rene That's a good one.

jadarnel27

@rene what have you done?

rene

Downvoted you...

jadarnel27

Oh.

rene

3:48 PM

To get you back on 7777

jadarnel27

I missed it.

But thank you.

It is a kind gesture.

rene

That is the story of my life...

hichris123

@jadarnel27 Just delete this. ;P

-2

Q: Text Animation or Image Animation During Splash Screen Activity

Can I Have Text Animation or Image Animation During Splash screen

... what?

rene

Offensive avatar? stackoverflow.com/users/3798415/inspired-prynce

GnomeSlice

@rene eh

One time we got a guy on gaming whose avatar was a limp penis.

3ventic

4:01 PM

New badge?

hichris123

Well, I guess Jon added it.

rene

@GnomeSlice I'm not easily offended so for me it's meh

GnomeSlice

@rene Same thing.

I'm usually the one offending people.

:P

Jon Ericson

4:15 PM

@hichris123 @balpha pushed it out.

hichris123

@JonEricson Ah. I keep forgetting you're on the Comms Team.

3ventic

@rene I'm guessing it's a facebook avatar because it doesn't load

Jon Ericson

@hichris123 Not much call for random scripting and C programming on our dev team. ;-) (But SQL sure helps.)

rene

@3ventic yep, it is

hichris123

Is this... a too radical change?

3ventic

4:26 PM

looks like it

hichris123

It was accepted... so... I'm going to roll it back.

rene

So far, the Universe is winning.

user163250

@rene thank you!

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/24536505/…

tchrist

@JonEricson Did you end up deciding Socratic should be awardable only once?

hichris123

4:40 PM

12

Q: Badges for habitually asking good questions

Over on MSE, I've proposed a series of badges for asking good questions on separate days. While implementing them on Stack Overflow, where the primary motivation does not apply, we decided to explain why we are also bringing them here. The last thing we want is to create busy work for people by i...

feature-request questions badges

Jon Ericson

@tchrist For now. If we didn't have SO to worry about, it would have been a no brainer. I'm scheduling a review for my self in a couple of months.

tchrist

@JonEricson k

user163250

Oh, I just retroactively got a bunch of Curious badges on a couple of questions.

tchrist

@Bart Perhaps so, but sometimes you really do wish you could do that. See here and here, where the second one is:

6

Q: Hold-Reason Suggestion: "More Research Desired" (MRD)

I was reading some posts on improving question quality and narrowing the definition of the General Reference when I had an idea. What does ELU Meta think about putting a question on hold when "more research is desired" (MRD)? The first point made here is that poorer quality questions don't show ...

discussion close-reasons

I’m not up for adding a new close reason, personally. But I can see why people sometimes write that as a custom one.

user163250

"More research desired" is a very polite way to put it.

rene

4:51 PM

If Apple still support Safari on Windows wouldn't it be nice if you could click download somewhere on the apple site?

3ventic

I don't think safari for windows has been updated in the last forever..

tchrist

@Cupcake And it is not a rare sentiment:

I am also seeing a large number of "Im a newbie in XXX, please explain what this does..." -- they are not programming issues, but rather lack of reading a tutorial, book or doing minimal research -- the users are able to tag the questions correctly, but they never read the tag-wiki -- as an example, the C-tag-wiki is rich in references on tutorial, but the wiki is not obvious to find -- why not prompt new users with the tag wiki of their question before they are allowed to finally post them? I can open this as a new question, you you believe being off topic for this discussion. — Soren Jun 28 at 19:11

rene

@3ventic Google now gives me a link to a 5.1.7 version

tchrist

And indeed, that comment has 65 upvotes.

3ventic

@rene 9.5.2012 = forever ago

rene

4:54 PM

@3ventic :(

I need to repro an ajax fileupload bug...I'll see if that old version repro's it and I promise I won't touch it after that

user163250

5:11 PM

Duplicate cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/24526249/heroku-app-cant-be-seen

Bart

5:22 PM

@tchrist the desire to close a question as such may be there, but the phrasing isn't great. But that's often the case with custom close reasons unfortunately.

Lynn Crumbling

7:46 PM

What's the policy on editing questions and answers that mention your company's product name, so that the static text is changed to a link to your product?

And should I just post a question on meta.stackoverflow.com asking that?

So, I've found this:meta.stackoverflow.com/q/251280/656243

Bart

You have an example @LynnCrumbling? Or it's something you're considering doing?

Lynn Crumbling

And this: meta.stackexchange.com/q/57497/161974

@Bart One of our competitors is doing it extensively.

Bart

Link?

Lynn Crumbling

I hesitate to post a question... because of that.

Bart

It gets iffy pretty fast

Lynn Crumbling

7:48 PM

#1: stackoverflow.com/q/24523647/656243

Bart

If that is all you're doing as an edit and it's to your product ...

ah, let's see

Lynn Crumbling

#2: stackoverflow.com/q/24424426/656243

Bart

Okay, I get it.

hichris123

Rolled back because GROSS!

Bart

I'd say inappropriate

hichris123

7:49 PM

The random bolding doesn't help either...

Lynn Crumbling

#3: stackoverflow.com/q/22025706/656243

Bart

I'll try a comment @LynnCrumbling. Not sure it needs a Meta post

Lynn Crumbling

#4: stackoverflow.com/q/21746147/656243

You get the idea... there are a ton.

I'd need to go through his full revision history.

hichris123

Ugh.

Andy

None of his suggestions are recent.

Not that that excuses anything

But, they aren't going around daily making these changes

Lynn Crumbling

7:53 PM

#5: stackoverflow.com/q/17692938/656243

Bart

@Andy one was 6 hours ago

Yeah, we get the idea @LynnCrumbling ;)

Lynn Crumbling

My basic question was -- what's the general disposition on this...

and what to do about it :)

Bart

I did this

Lynn Crumbling

@Bart k.

Andy

@Bart Buwa? I see the most recent as being in Oct. stackoverflow.com/users/560932/…

Bart

7:54 PM

@Rinkalkumar I see you've been editing a fair few questions to include a link to an app you're associated with. I'd avoid doing that. It gets spammy pretty fast. Please only include such links if they are really essential to the question. And please do try to avoid unnecessary bolding of text as well. — Bart 55 secs ago

hichris123

@LynnCrumbling Rollback the edit, fix any remaining problems in the post.

Bart

@Andy stackoverflow.com/posts/24523647/revisions

hichris123

@Andy They have full edit privs now.

Bart

Don't go apeshit on the guy though. We'll see how he responds to the comment.

Andy

@hichris123 Ah. Didn't even notice that. Makes sense. I see it in his revisions tab.

He seems to have bold fetish too

Bart

7:56 PM

Bold makes things more clear. So I write my posts in full bold text.

Lynn Crumbling

Yeah. At least he was fair in that he bolded both mention of their product and ours in the one post. hah.

hichris123

He does realize that those links get him no Google juice... right?

Bart

Probably not @hichris123

Andy

@hichris123 Probably not

Lynn Crumbling

@hichris123 Yeah, I doubt he'd be doing it if he didn't think it inc'd pagerank.

hichris123

7:57 PM

Are you a sock of @Bart, @Andy? ;P

Bart

Yes

hichris123

@LynnCrumbling It doesn't. All links are nofollowed on SO (except in some cases on the profile page).

Andy

@hichris123 No?

Maybe

Jan Dvorak

Is this an acceptable question? scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/60579/…

Andy

I don't get all the stars, so probably not though

Bart

7:59 PM

Andy used to be one of my socks, but he went rogue.

hichris123

@JanDvorak You're really asking if Baba has a good question?

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 failed copy; please recheck

Bart

@JanDvorak no

Jan Dvorak

edit? VLQ?

Bart

VLQ. Bordering on rude/offensive.

I'm tempted to edit that into a well phrased question on character motivation and development though. Just to troll the apparently trolling OP

Jan Dvorak

8:02 PM

Please do.

The question as you have it is really one looking for a list of opinions; StackExchange is all about questions with definite answers from canon. Is there a way you can edit your question into that form? — Matt Gutting 47 secs ago

Bart

Yeah .. that pinpoints the problem .... not ...

Lynn Crumbling

"What does it bring to the plot of ST-TNG that Wesley Crusher's character started the series as a weak-personality character?"

Jan Dvorak

@LynnCrumbling the question seems to ask for a possible cause of the character, not its results

"Does the Star Trek canon offer any plausible explanations for the personality of Weasley Crusher?"

Nuk3d

Lynn Crumbling

Ah. Well, in that case, "What historical evidence is there to support the massive amount of complaining that Wesley Crusher's character delivers?"

:)

Jan Dvorak

I like the first half :-)

hichris123

8:09 PM

offensive: stackoverflow.com/a/24539971/2581872

Bart

He just says what we all think :p

And so eloquent as well

Jan Dvorak

wait, was that answer deleted by the power of four 'offensive' flags?

hichris123

@JanDvorak mod

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak no the account was nuked

Anna Lear

takes 6 flags without a mod involvement

Shadow Wizard

8:14 PM

"go solve ou own poblems". wonder if he was too mad to care about spelling, or just write this way always.

Jan Dvorak

the deletion message is kinda unclear in that case

Bart

@ShadowWizard go mined ur own speling

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak "account nuked by higher forces" is better?

hichris123

@ShadowWizard That makes it sound like God nuked the account.

Jan Dvorak

"deleted by account deletion" instead of "deleted by Community <>" would be preferable

Bart

8:15 PM

"Deleted by the power of Greyskull"

hichris123

@JanDvorak Community auto-deletes all destroyed users' posts, as well as all negative scoring posts of deleted users.

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak problem is account deletion of that kind triggers deletion of all posts, each post don't "know" the parent account was nuked.

Anna Lear

@ShadowWizard profile was deleted after the post was.

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 now that is something to look for

Anna Lear

destroying a profile just deletes their posts, doesn't lock them.

Bart

8:17 PM

Does it make a sound though @AnnaLear?

Shadow Wizard

@AnnaLear hmm.... so how come it was locked and deleted with less than 6 flags?

Anna Lear

@ShadowWizard moderator cast the last one

@Bart only in the woods

Shadow Wizard

binding spam flag, @Anna?

Anna Lear

exactly

Shadow Wizard

eh, you edited

Jan Dvorak

8:18 PM

oh. Nice.

Shadow Wizard

one never stop learning, thanks!

Anna Lear

@ShadowWizard I figured I should try forming what at least passes for a sentence at first glance :)

Shadow Wizard

but what about the -100 rep, is it given in such case?

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard the question is, whom?

The account no longer exists

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak it did exist when the binding spam flag was cast by a mod

Anna Lear

8:20 PM

@ShadowWizard sure

Binding flags are exactly the same as normal flags. They just trigger whatever the normal outcome would be immediately.

Shadow Wizard

so if in theory it had 101 rep, question is would it drop to 1

Anna Lear

yes, it would

Shadow Wizard

@AnnaLear so in theory, single moderator can reduce Jon Skeet reputation to 1?

hichris123

@ShadowWizard Yeah, but then that mod would be de-diamonded.

Bart

/me gets the idea @ShadowWizard will be a candidate in the next election

Anna Lear

8:21 PM

@ShadowWizard in principle, yeah

Shadow Wizard

cool, very useful detail to remember :D

@hichris123 but he'll step down laughing his diamond off!

@Bart /me whistles innocently

Anna Lear

hey, if someone wants to spam-flag 31537 posts, more power to 'em.

hichris123

@ShadowWizard You really think no one will notice before the rep gets to 1?

Shadow Wizard

@hichris123 not if he's quick enough, or using a script

hichris123

@AnnaLear There's an API for flagging...

Bart

8:24 PM

@ShadowWizard might be easier to just apply for a dev position

Shadow Wizard

@Bart and then what? wipe the database clean? ;)

Bart

Skeet? What Skeet?

hichris123

I really want to nuke someone's account for some reason. We've had no spam on ES yet, so I haven't had a chance to... :(

Bart

If you want my sock can go on a rampage

hichris123

Then I'd spamram your IP, and stuff wouldn't be... pretty.

user163250

8:42 PM

You know, as much as I initially hated the new MSE fav icon, I'm actually OK with it now.

Bart

@Cupcake I'm sure the designers at SE are breathing a sigh of relief now. :p

rene

Is this closeable under a default reason?

I provided a custom one but I'm unsure if that is correct...

Anna Lear

Er. Why would that be off-topic?

236 questions in the [kentico] tag.

rene

I doubt if aynyone beyond support and the OP can answer that.

Anna Lear

Not necessarily. If someone ran into a similar upgrade issue, they can provide direction.

rene

8:56 PM

I mean: it is a specific error after a patch on their box

Hmmm, OK

Let me retract my vote

Done

Anna Lear

:)

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