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12:01 AM
Godwin's hammer has fallen. Bang. Dead hitler, dead question, dead everything. Because dead stuff is fun! — ThiefMaster ♦ 18 secs ago
 
12:17 AM
@animuson Sheldon turns flag upside down when rocket fuel is about to explode :D
 
12:32 AM
"You cannot star your own messages" :(
 
I can't decide: Option 1 or Option 2?
 
0
Q: How can you become a supreme leader on Stack Overflow?

a4601693 drdrb.netHow can you become a supreme leader on Stack Overflow? Is there a way to access it? Do you pay money to become that? I'm on the vergen to become one if possible! I have nerves of steel and can handle intruders easily!

 
^ don't comment, just flag as abusive. Don't feed the trolls
 
@ColeJohnson spam seems like a sensible decision
 
already gone
 
12:40 AM
@animuson where you plan to use them?
 
Just general wear.
 
"You have made too many incorrect reviews. For an example of a task you should have reviewed differently, see: http://stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/4919060.

Come back in 21 hours to continue reviewing."
REALLY?
 
Oh what did you do?
 
Vote count should not be a representation of the quality of the question
 
1:15 AM
I need to answer 10 more questions for the golden badge!
 
On mSO?
I want a golden tag badge!
 
MSE*
 
Ah.
 
I still need 58 answers and 147 score for the golden bug badge.
(Ignore that edit. Don't hit me with a giant S.)
 
... I don't think you can say 147 score.
 
1:21 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HERE IS MY SUCCESS STORY: on money.stackexchange.com
 
It would be something like 147 upvotes.
 
Well if I get a downvote, then I'd need 148 upvotes.
 
@ManishBot you freaking kiding me
 
^^^ SPAM.
 
email spam made its way to SE
@hichris123 btw, that's jam, not electronic junk :P
 
1:25 AM
?
Anyway, it's nuked.
 
english.stackexchange.com/a/169358/49000 <-- SPAM = food; spam = electronic junk
 
1:44 AM
@Braiam Why are you spamming the Tavern!?
 
2:14 AM
Sauce.
 
Ponieswithsause
 
Who wants to give lend give me $120 for music?
 
I don't understand the purpose of putting tool-tips over nav menu items that are just the text of the menu item.
 
To be annoying?
 
@animuson That's a definite possibility.
I figure some popular menu-ify jQuery plugin does it by default, and nobody turns it off. And / or no one is capable of just styling their own menu.
 
2:20 AM
I don't think a lot of people actually understand what the title attribute does or when it's supposed to be used.
 
Heh, I just looked it up on MDN to make sure I wasn't the one misunderstanding.
I wonder if people think it's an accessibility thing.
 
A lot of people do confuse the alt and title attributes for one another.
 
@jadarnel27 I do. I always write vanilla CSS/JS (mostly CSS), never any external resources except vimeo.
 
@bjb568 Good for you!
More people should do that =)
Importing all of jQuery so you can fade your menu dropdowns in and out should be a crime.
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I'm making a lot of judgmental generalizations right now.
Related (warning: lots of profanity).
 
My gut says that would be funny but my eyes don't feel like reading it.
 
2:29 AM
Heheh. It teaches a great lesson. If only people were smart enough to take it in. (not the google analytics part)
 
@animuson Totally worth a follow-up, when your eyes are feeling more energized =P
 
2:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LINEAR SPACE, PROVING ITS NOT A LINEAR SPACE on math.stackexchange.com
 
3:15 AM
hi, this guy is going through and removing many tags, sometimes useful ones: stackoverflow.com/users/19405/…
has he discussed those with anyone on meta?
 
VANDALISM! Deserves an edit ban.
Whether on not on meta, and I think not.
 
(and kindly got the feeling now about the unexplained downvotes, that he gave some to me since coincidentally, the qt tag removals happened simultaneously with my downvotes)
 
Maybe a suspension then.
 
@LaszloPapp then it seems that he actually reads the question, does it?
 
@bjb568: yeah, I am shocked why he is doing it...
perhaps badge hunter?
he got the copy editor one day ago, so maybe...
What a destructive member of the community IMHO...
of course, all the tag edits are matchless with proper text fixes.
and the tag edits are also done on almost on year old contents like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/17073066/…
I do not understand this guy.
stackoverflow.com/questions/17073066/g-calling-function-without-parenthesis-not-‌​f-but-f-why-always-return#comment36847037_17073066kk
 
3:28 AM
Is this a chatroom for MSO or MSE?
 
MSE
but I think not many people mind open discussions anyhow.
 
Whew, thought I couldn't post this here
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Q: What's the point of warning users who are deleting questions with answers, when they can't delete them?

thinly veiled question markSo I tried deleting a question. I'm not a mod, but I have reputation above 10k: But after clicking Delete Question............ So...I don't understand the point. I can understand this being a warning for moderators who are deleting questions, but I don't necessarily understand why they wou...

 
DV, too.
 
not sure how it got reopened.
 
3:37 AM
Magic (⌒-⌒; )
 
3:59 AM
I find it odd that there have been zero Meta Stack Overflow questions in the last five hours (at least, visible to me). Does that seem odd to anyone else?
 
@DavidRobinson no
MSE is getting its share of programming questions as usual
 
I know, I'm referring to MSO
 
there's a one-hour-old answer there, though
 
And a minute-old answer indeed. So it's unlikely that it's a bug
 
4:24 AM
 
If a question with only downvotes is closed and has an answer with only downvotes, will the question be deleted in due time? Or does the answer prevent that?
@Andrew what say you about on SO (main)
 
@Cole Answer will make it take longer, but it will be deleted.
 
@bjb568 how much longer?
 
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A: Enable automatic deletion of old, unanswered zero-score questions after a year?

Jeff AtwoodJust to formally document the exact policies we have in place to remove old abandoned / dead questions, the Community user will delete questions in the following circumstances: If the question is more than 30 days old, and ... has −1 or lower score has no answers is not locked ...or... it ...

Only negative score.
And no accept.
Why are you deleting your posts?
 
@bjb568 gone
 
But how else will we look back on it and laugh?
 
@michaelb958 spam's not funny. Offensive posts are
 
@JanDvorak Ah, good point.
 
We can still laugh at Baba for still not having fixed "garunted"... or rather we could have if he hadn't.
The hot questions bar currently hosts this question:
> How to bend more than 90 degree?
It is posted on tex.se, but it would have been far more interesting on fitness.se.
 
5:40 AM
Initially I missed the "s" in "batsman" and got confused :-/ — Jan Dvorak 9 secs ago
 
5:52 AM
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Q: Concept to get a powerful mixed-martial art?

user221794I believe a great combination could be Boxing, Taekwondo and jiu jitsu since each design might educate the fighter to truly have a great hold over all of his physique. Kicks Punchs Jiu- downs are taken by Jitsu=Strong. That's precisely what I believe with respect to the info I understand but what...

SPAM
 
Don't onebox spam.
 
oh! there is an answer, from newly created account also
socket puppets
 
Nice!
That's sophisticated spam. They even found the post answer button!
 
answer is deleted now
but Y U NO CLOSE?? :-/
gone
 
Mat
6:13 AM
We don't get enough of that.
 
Batteries? Seriously?
 
French spam on a site about the english language? Heresy!
seriously... are you complaining that you aren't allowed to waste 1GB of memory with digits? — Jan Dvorak 1 min ago
 
Reminds me of the Youtube video that says "I forget, the patio door that [5 seconds is up, skip]". I always complete the sentence with "that I don't care about".
(I forget being the brand)
 
SPAM SPAM go away
 
@bjb568 not VLQ, merely utter crap.
 
The difference is?
 
that VLQs don't look like answers.
 
If I see it in the queue, I'll recommend deletion.
Are you saying that crap is high quality?
 
would you if you didn't know PHP?
 
6:43 AM
Yeah, there's a comment there. And -5. Even without it, I would ask OP to explain the code.
 
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Q: Rename "Looks Good" or add a "Looks OK, just Incorrect" in Low Quality Question Review

Mark HurdWhen reviewing possibly low quality posts you sometimes see OK answers, except that they're wrong. From the review interface you can't downvote so you can only comment or edit, and editing isn't really an option when the intended answer is wrong. Once you've commented or upped an existing commen...

 
incorrect != crap
 
@bjb568 I agree with @Jan, don't think it's VLQ. Not enough PHP knowledge to judge crappiness though so no vote from me. :)
 
Hint: It's not PHP, unrelated to the question, doesn't work in any language probably, no explanation.
 
@bjb568 it does look like PHP to me
except the ending statement to do got gone
 
6:48 AM
Do loop? Never heard of it.
 
Mat
It's not even valid Perl. Hopeless.
 
@bjb568 aw, c'mon, PHP's not that bad. php.net/manual/en/control-structures.do.while.php
 
That's do while. Not do.
 
OH NOES, THEY'VE CHANGED THE DESIGN AGAIN!!!
 
And it's gotten worse…
 
6:50 AM
@JanDvorak design of what?
 
Pink on grey.
@Shadow The php manual.
 
@bjb568 oh, looking nice and clean to me.
 
@ShadowWizard the PHP doc page. White in black in green in pink. Now uglier than ever.
 
@JanDvorak but what if I love pink? :D
 
Then stop loving pink.
 
6:52 AM
@ShadowWizard then you'll be disappointed that only the top menu is in pink. And it's not even pink, it's washed out violet-blue.
 
@bjb568 next you'll tell me to start wearing hats!
@JanDvorak oh, bummer. You mean like the SE top bar isn't really black just dark gray?
 
I bought the "dirty doge" option.
 
@ShadowWizard the PHP top bar is pink even than the SE top bar is black.
 
@bjb568 lost you there!
 
Dog Owner uses Water Jet. It's super-effective.
 
6:55 AM
@ShadowWizard Dirty doge? Unicoins? April? Remember?
 
@bjb568 wait, is that the upgrade that colorises the comments?
 
@bjb568 It was one of the powers? I never bothered to look at them all in depth ;(
 
@JanDvorak No, the upgrade that changes the top bar color.
 
ohh
to pink?
 
@ProgramFOX oh. Emulation userscript?
 
6:56 AM
No, to dirty doge.
I believe there was a dark night one too.
Something about shadows too…
VLQ is gone.
 
@JanDvorak Not a userscript, it was one of those Unicoin powers in 1st April.
@bjb568 It's not, it's only available on posts with a score <= 0.
 
Change of subject! This morning there was a debate in a local radio station about a certain commercial. They claim this picture looks, well, kinky. Personally don't think it's that bad. Opinions? :)
 
@ProgramFOX No, the post I flagged as VLQ.
@ShadowWizard Looks fine to me.
 
Ah, ok.
 
6:59 AM
@ShadowWizard how do you know about picture, if it was being debated on radio station?
 
@bjb568 the title says something like "Trying new tastes is basic", referring to the icecream of course.
 
It's ice cream. How is that kinky? Have those radio station people been doing a little too much… ?
 
@DroidDev they put it in their Facebook page: facebook.com/…
...and I added a comment ;)
 
Ewwww… Facebook.
 
@bjb568 they are convinced it looks like something NSFW (the white stuff)
 
7:03 AM
o-o-o-oreo?
 
but yeah, it was on their third our in the air when they get tired
 
Doing a little too much… whatever get's that crap into their mind.
 
@JanDvorak first two letters match :D
 
7:07 AM
@JanDvorak does it contain audio, because my linux system is only showing biscuit and I don't have speakers on my work system
 
@DroidDev how you hear when there's new messages then?!
 
@ShadowWizard I have never heard that tune. I just see the pop-up appearing in right bottom. :(
Guess I will have to do some SO work after getting home today.....
@JanDvorak I love those biscuits. But here, different ads are shown for these.
 
@DroidDev You haven't lived until you've heard Meta SE Chat's "ping!" noise.
 
I hear it the first time I'm pinged. Then never again.
Until the next onload.
 
@michaelb958 I'll definitely be online, after getting home. Just to hear that noise... :-/
hope someone is there to talk to me
how should I flag this.
 
VLQ!
For all things.
 
how is that I flagged something as NAA, it was found helpful, but the post is still there, and it was not undeleted because the author only logged in yesterday last time?
 
7:56 AM
@Laszlo Happened to me too.
VLQ is great.
 
I have only 10 flags left for today. You open android tag and boom. There is a flood of questions you'll want to flag
 
@LaszloPapp probably the moderator thought your flag was helpful (e.g. you found a bad answer) but still didn't think the post should be deleted.
 
@ShadowWizard: in what way was it found helpful then ?
 
@LaszloPapp you found a bad post. The flag sent the post to the VLQ review queue. Sounds helpful to me.
 
8:00 AM
bad it is not deleted, so it is not bad post.
nor improved, whatsoever.
 
bad does not always mean it deserves deletion. It's not all white and black.
The mod preferred others to judge, not wanting to use the binding vote, I faced this myself recently with the dupe hammer.
 
the thing is I cannot flag it again.
 
....and then he asked where can he find database
time to leave earth
 
@LaszloPapp you can, as "other".
and explain why you think it should be deleted.
 
nope, other does not work either for me.
 
8:04 AM
@LaszloPapp so it's a bug. What error you get?
 
CV'd.
 
8:25 AM
Morning!
 
Morning @rene!
 
Morning
 
Morning @Bart!
 
Um... it's not morning where I am.
English greetings weren't built to cross timezone boundaries, darn it.
 
Evening @michaelb958
 
8:30 AM
Non-specific time of day @michaelb958!
 
> Morning ± 12 hours
Information Security's main chat room has already wrangled this problem, apparently.
 
8:45 AM
starting nuke process.
 
Mat
SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/115649/… (they've run out of imagination for titles...)
 
@Mat think they are aware of the bots detecting bad titles
(hello spammer!)
 
> Dear spammer, you still suck at writing convincing titles
 
Should have migrated that to meta as [faq-proposed]
 
@Bart yeah, totally
 
8:55 AM
They didn't provide a title...It is the boiler plate text. Can we add that to the RegEx?
What's your (.*) question? Be specific.
 
@rene unlikely to catch much
I need to start polling the question bodies and graylisting URLs
I thus give up on detecting answer spam. I'll keep the code in place, just comment it out.
 
@JanDvorak why you give up?
 
9:11 AM
low success rate (zero correlation), competes on API quota with my upcoming attempt at catching question spam. Perhaps I'll turn both on once the greylist implementation is done.
regexes work great to catch Baba and offensive posts, but they're pretty feeble against the dermatology spam.
The only tricky part of the greylist is to react fast enough while not overdraining the quota.
I could just scrape the question pages, but then Hadoop will hate me.
Or I could just neglect the big sites. Just cutting off SO from my attention will drop the quota usage dramatically.
The only other tricky part will be the 5MB limit on local storage. Does greasemonkey offer a bigger storage somewhere I haven't noticed?
 
9:39 AM
I guess you can drop SO though
Gets picked off pretty fast anyway
 
should I drop SO, or the entire trilogy?
I will do some testing on how much quota I use under different settings.
 
@JanDvorak I thought the 5MB limit was alllowed without approval of the user. If you request more a popup asks for a confirmation?
 
@rene unfortunately, no.
 
Hmmm...
 
you are allowed to waste as much memory as you like while you're running, but dare you remember 5.1 MB of data while the browser is off.
 
9:55 AM
Is anything else needed to get this reopened?
 
@rene "tool-rec" no longer applies. It feels impossible to diagnose, though.
 
Yeah, I voted for reopen. we will see if it can be answered...
 
Mat
Any Ideas what might be wrong with this library? isn't the question that needs answering. Is there something I can do to male LibFoo work with .Net 42? might be better, but I'm not optimistic, @rene
 
@Mat edited that... tnx...
 
10:15 AM
Another question to add to my list of warning signs: "Can't we make that automatic?"
Got to love clients
 
And sales already promised: Yes, we can! ?
 
Luckily we don't have a sales department. :D
Or rather, the sales department is also us :)
 
Bart, don't want to push or anything but look to the right
 
10:36 AM
@rene "You need to draw 7 perpendicular red lines. Also, two of them should use green ink."
 
Sure, consider it done in 6-8 units...
 
lol...
Is our troll active again: stackoverflow.com/questions/170986/…
 
10:52 AM
@Shog9 what you're saying is mostly crap. do u understand this is not a question and answer site but just a faq run by gremlins? yes because i don't know anyone other than gremlins and social rejects who are mean and say crap like u and ur so called "community". — dondom 13 hours ago
 
Yeah that triggered me...again...
 
@bjb568 are u drunk? when u mark something dup it is about question NOT answer — dondom 2 hours ago
 
It is not the most productive way to communicate...
 
The "voting fraud script" seems to have missed a case of suspected serial downvote on my questions, so I flagged one of my questions for moderator attention 3 days ago. Now I am just curious: how long can I expect to wait for a response? Thanks in advance.
 
11:09 AM
@Henrik It can take a while. Up to weeks (sometimes months).
 
@rene OK. Thanks a lot for your rapid reply!
 
NP
 
> I am a big fan of Android design, and I design all of my apps perfectly according to the Android design guidelines. (source)
LOL
That's impressive stuff.
 
its been one year since I started programming in android and I have only seen bugs, crashes, issues and reports
I am still trying to get past "I design all of my apps perfectly..." — Plutonix yesterday
I am also at same point
already flagged. YES!!!
 
11:25 AM
It's gone.
Phew... It's mesmerizing power almost caused me to follow the link.
 
lol
 
Well, I almost posted a duplicate feature request. Stopped myself just in time. Here's the original I was going to duplicate:
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Q: Grant the OP a binding close as duplicate vote

ben is uǝq backwardsSince the changes to the close as duplicate mechanism it is a lot more visible to the OP that there is/might be a duplicate to their question. Empirically, I've noticed a lot more people agreeing, in the comments under their question, that their question is a dupe. For instance, here: I'...

 
What the frick is this?
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Q: Creating a PHP script that constantly checks a text file and displays results

user3680619I'm testing out a few things in PHP and its file system, and I'm trying to make a site that constantly checks a text file and updates itself automatically, for example a chat, someone writes a message to that text file and it's automatically read by the script and displayed on the screen. I trie...

Score of 1 ... reasonable ... /me looks at upvotes and downvotes ... what the heck?
 
+26/-25... what?
 
Exactly!!
 
11:38 AM
I've seen this kind of voting on a much smaller scale just yesterday: stackoverflow.com/questions/23918776/…
For the record, a question like this in the tag would normally not get any upvotes.
 
What is the js community doing?
 
@Bart The answer to it would be refreshing the iframe with a setInterval and getting rid of the usleep. There are still better ways to do it
 
Yet nobody bothered to add an answer at all @3ventic.
 
I lost hope with SO too long ago to bother to test it myself
 
In both cases dondom is a commenter. (The comment on the question I linked to was deleted.)
 
11:41 AM
Hmm, suddenly I'm suspicious about the upvotes then
Just enough to get it to +1 ...
 
I find it extremely hard to believe 26 upvotes would be caused by voting fraud..
 
@Bart Yep, and that requirejs question is a total outlier. I've never ever seen this. And I've seen all questions posted in this tag for many months now.
 
I find it equally hard to believe such scores are achieved in normal circumstances @3ventic. Something fishy is going on. If not a community battle, then something else.
 
It just seems like a question that got a lot of people's attention, and people's opinions about it seem to be in 2 opposite camps.
 
But unless there has been a cleanup, there is surprisingly little opinion to be found @3ventic.
 
11:46 AM
Votes are opinions
 
You may be right. I say there's something fishy about it.
 
I have downvotes on my questions now :-)
 
You're welcome
 
lol
 
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Q: Drive-By Upvotes?

Jay BlanchardHow in the world does a question like this, Creating a PHP script that constantly checks a text file and displays results, get an upvote? Does Stack Overflow suffer from as many drive-by upvotes as it does drive-by downvotes? How can we prevent that behavior? Are upvoters also looking for answers...

There's opinion for you :)
 
11:49 AM
Ah, that might explain some of the attention
And of course there's bullcrap like
i am here to upvote question that get downvoted because downvoters are not fair — dondom 36 mins ago
 
facedesk
 
Well, this user has been posting crap comments like that a lot.
I've flagged those that I found offensive or rude.
But really most of this user's comments are noise, even when they are not rude or offensive.
 
@rene Not having any questions on SO seems to prevent me from getting downvotes a lot. No easy targets without a rep hit for the voter.
 
I don't care much, I'll answer some crap in php to reverse those downvotes...
And remember: I don't do php...
 
:D
 
12:26 PM
parents, never let your kids do php
 
@user0000000 and what about those who are only kids here and not parents??? :P
 
Mat
Kids, tell your parents to go play outside, this computer stuff's not for dinosaurs.
 
although highly upvoted, but can I edit this answer to remove bold lines from it? would that be a valid edit?
 
I'd say so
 
this user seems to have a lot of low quality questions even though he has 40k rep stackoverflow.com/users/6068/pablo?tab=summary
 
12:41 PM
lets celebrate it. Let us do that
 
@DroidDev Robert harvey commented the same thing I thought when I saw the question on the CB..
 
@user0000000 CB???
 
community bulletin
 
Get with the program @DroidDev. CB man!
:D
 
12:43 PM
what should this be closed as stackoverflow.com/questions/17403808/… ?
 
Should it be?
 
@Bart I don't know anything asked there, but because you've been good at SO, I am gonna trust you :P and flag it, but I don't know what flag should I raise?
 
@DroidDev If you're not sure, just don't. No need to follow me.
 
@Bart see, that's why I trusted you.
 
The OP deleted it. Problem solved. Unless he reposts it again.
Gah ... of course he did. But now he made it a cross-site duplicate.
I should have known.
 
12:54 PM
we should downvote either one of them to oblivion.
 
Meh, at most one of them should be closed I guess. Or downvoted if it deserves it. But I'm no fan of oblivion-voting.
 
@Bart your vote should be independent on the current score ;-) To infinity and beyond!
 
I agree ^
 
I'm soft at heart @JanDvorak.
 
@Bart does it feel better if you're the first to shoot?
as in, first you vote, then it gets downvoted into oblivion?
 
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