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12:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: NO WIRED INTERNET UBUNTU 12.04 by GEORGE on askubuntu.com

12:45 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: NO WIRED INTERNET UBUNTU 12.04 by GEORGE on askubuntu.com

What happens if you tell SmokeDetector 'true' for an all-caps title?

@JasonC Probably not much.

If you tell it 'false', will it have some sort of psychological breakdown and question its grasp of character encodings?

user259867

Or it will think it's SQL, and such titles should not be posted?

user259867

I don't think the detector actually cares about SQL, though.

user259867

12:55 AM

So, SE is looking for Data Science Engineer: https://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/62161/data-science-engineer-stack-exchange:
> Identify low-quality questions on Stack Overflow
> Recommend questions I can answer, or might be interested in reading

Lol

Hey @SmokeDetector, looking for a job?

user259867

BTW I cooked up yet another bookmarklet, this one for sound notification of new questions posted on a site. Right now I have Drupal /newest opened in a tab, and bookmarklet runs on it. Science? Not really, just experience.

Every time somebody says "bookmarklet" or "user script" I have no idea what they're talking about.

It kind of bugs me that I develop software for a living but am mysteriously completely disconnected from that area of development.

On the other hand, it kind of doesn't really bug me at all.

God damn web monkeys.

Sorry I meant, hey cool bookmarklet.

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@Braiam That's awesome.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii It says "SO excepted" in your note; does that mean it doesn't work on SO?

user259867

1:19 AM

It does not... Would be pointless anyway, since new questions drop by all the time there. It's for things like Drupal and Meta, slow-moving sites.

1:32 AM

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Does it work on the tags page?

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Noooo! There's a bug on my code!

user259867

@JasonC It simply looks for "N questions with new activity". if the page shows this, it works. Otherwise...

@Frank solution: don't use printed code

@JanDvorak Ohai, evil owl!

bye

1:40 AM

cya

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A: Left/right/center divs in footer with center in middle of *body*

I'm not 100% sure what you're after. Here's what I did get: You want the left div on the left You want the right div on the right You want don't want to limit the width of those to 33%; You want the center to always be dead center. You don't care about overlapping content If I got that right...

^ Why does that work?

What is the magic that happens when top/left/width/height are all set to 0 in CSS? As soon as I set them to anything non-zero (from that answer) the whole thing breaks.

E.g. jsfiddle.net/f6csexjj

Hey look my fiddle has sex in it

jsfiddle.net/f6csexjj/2 rather

@JasonC Expands to size of container

@bjb568 I believe you; but is there a reference for that somewhere? For example, w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-width does not mention anything about 0 being significant.

@JasonC It isn't. It's sides are just 0 away from the container's sides.

@bjb568 Hm; but width:1 sets the width to 1, it doesn't move the side 1 away from the container's side. Wouldn't width:0 set the width to 0?

1:53 AM

@JasonC Null; units!, no (width is width, left is distance from left of container). Yes.

@bjb568 I don't think I'll ever understand CSS.

CSS is like a cat, you see: you pull on its tail, and it scratches your eyes out

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@JasonC jsfiddle.net/xaxz75jx

@Shog9 as long as it wont gouge them out, is fine

@Shog9 At least with a cat, I can guess what's going to happen when I pull on its tail.

2:04 AM

@Braiam that would be quickly over. That doesn't sound like CSS at all.

don't pull my tail, or else

pulls bjb's tail

else

AAaAAAAHHHHH! Not ELSE!

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@bjb568 Hey thanks. Ok, so, when I add width:0, height:0 to inner in your snippet (and remove right/bottom), it shrinks the inner box to 0x0 (plus padding). That makes sense to me. But in my sex fiddle, 0x0 makes it fill the whole parent container. I can't make this be consistent in my mind.

2:15 AM

@JasonC jsfiddle.net/f6csexjj/5

Oh

Oh I'm a total dumbass.

Obviously I'm confused about why changing width/height breaks it, given that my fiddle doesn't actually specify width or height. What the hell have I even been talking about...

@bjb568 Thanks. Turns out I was just smoking crack this whole time.

"Looking me am a civilized person"

Yeah am.

I don't remember where that came from. I think somebody said it in a comment argument.

user259867

Maybe Jin could use bjb's help too; it's been a while since anything major got done in SE site design...

user259867

refactoring 10k+ lines of cssssssss. http://i.imgur.com/xcmP1.gif

Tweeted by jzy on July 9, 2014 at 9:50 PM

2:31 AM

@Rafflesiaarnoldii ... a ton has been happening with CSS.

more like cascading STUPID sheets

Aug 19 at 22:23, by Pops

Considering the nature of your request, and knowing what Jin is up to these days (a super-gigantic overhaul of all the CSS in the network) I'm going to do nothing for a little while.

2:43 AM

cv-typo (i think) stackoverflow.com/questions/26813030/…

maaybe. not sure. It miight be useful (but still probably unfindable)

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@hichris123 Yeah, the endLESS refactoring... I meant there were no sites graduating recently. I'm mostly waiting for CS to graduate, hoping for migration path there.

user259867

2:59 AM

Gah, I again began reviewing LQ posts before spending all delete votes for the day. Hate wasting them in the queue.

user259867

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A: Why I'm casting delete votes in the Low Quality review queue?

Don't really see the problem here. You get X number of delete votes per day (between 5 and 30, depending on reputation - so by the time you can vote to delete answers, you'll have at least 15). You can use them on whatever you want: questions or answers. Review gives you a bit of a boost by all...

user259867

^^ Well, I do see a problem: if I spend the previous delete votes on obvious VLQ/NAA that everyone in the queue can handle, there isn't much left for the stuff that actually requires them.

I went on css-tricks and see an ad for a code editor called brackets (well, an extension for it, but that's unimportant). I go to its URL without going thru the ad site so it won't generate revenue. I download. It's confusing and I don't really get what it does. My computer is 160˚… what is happened? Its jQueryful wabsite uses up 100% CPU. Deletes app.

@bjb568 brackets.io?

@JasonC Yeah.

3:09 AM

@bjb568 It's an Adobe product, that's what happened. I bet it was like a 12 TB download, and just for an online installer.

@JasonC I was quite surprised that it wasn't.

No installer at all, actually!

@JasonC Eww. @bjb568 has no taste in text editors.

@hichris123 Yeah I do. I use Coda.

@bjb568 Fascinating. The Adobe god must be displeased by that.

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LOGIN GOOGLE INTO MOODLE 2.7 by Duy Trần on stackoverflow.com

3:11 AM

@Rafflesiaarnoldii follow up @Shog9 meta.stackexchange.com/q/243247/213575

@bjb568 eh. I like Sublime better. :)

… I only use coda because sublime is complicated. Sublime text is my second least unbearable.

@hichris123 I started to address that before that comment… :P

See, I at least know what's going on.

hah

@bjb568 It's not really that complicated. I use very few features in Sublime. :P

Well, I'll download sublime 3 and see how not awful it is.

meh, the only real text editor is emacs #inb4editorwars

3:13 AM

@Braiam emacs? sublime > vim > emacs

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@Braiam Another aspect is that often one or two 20K users use their delete vote in LQRQ, but the post is deleted "from review" (by the action of six reviewers) before the 3rd 20K vote appears. So, the 20K votes are entirely wasted. Happens a lot.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii that's why I want hard data, to see if it's actually useful allowing 20k to do that

@hichris123 sublime doesn't have M-x butterfly, so no

feature-request if (message.contains("inb4")) ban();

@JasonC y?

@JanDvorak 'cause

3:15 AM

Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.

@JanDvorak y not

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@JasonC I'm working on a bookmarklet for that.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Votes should be returned.

@JasonC cuz txtspx in gnrl is wai wrs than using common abbreviations to denote common ideas

... and you can't ban ideas

(in before someone mentions a dystopian scifi where the government managed to pull this off for quite a while)

@JanDvorak "inb4" is almost as lame as "I probably shouldn't say this, but..."

3:19 AM

@JasonC why?

It ranks up there with "first post!"

not if your predictions are correct

@JanDvorak What do you mean why? Just make the comment.

The point is to prevent those

or can be

or at least that's how I'd like to use it

Ooh, sublime does seem to have better code folding…

3:23 AM

No, it's a lame way of trying to say "I'm so smart, I know what's coming next, and since I don't really want to take responsibility for saying it, I'll hide it behind some cheesy snark".

can it fold Haskell code?

@JanDvorak whats dat

good question; haskell programs aren't code; they're mathematical definitions :-D

@bjb568 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_(programming_language)...

I dunno.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/68504/792066

3:27 AM

Nope. It highlights tho.

@bjb568 pic or never happened rosettacode.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors#Haskell

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SPAM gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/190966/…

This one does

Yeah I noticed right after I said that

Compare Haskell to the java version: rosettacode.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors#Java

3:37 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LOGIN WITH GOOGLE ACCOUNT INTO MOODLE 2.7 by Duy Trần on stackoverflow.com

or to ruby, actually and surprisingly: rosettacode.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors#Ruby

3:48 AM

Nice. Made a sublime build work.

Maybe was just new before.

Have you bought it, or are you using it as nagware?

Nagware… whatever that is.

Huh. Ok, yes. That.

facepalm stackoverflow.com/questions/26813514/…

oh. Wow. That find all = multiple seletion thing is cool

array folding = nice

4:27 AM

@bjb568 *newb

@JanDvorak "is" ≠ "="

s/=/=>/

user259867

$\implies$. Darn, no MathJax in chat.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Bummer, right.

Yeah.

@JanDvorak ∈

It's part of the set of properties of the thing.

@bjb568 your mom ∈ my bitchez

user259867

4:36 AM

Flagged as mathematically offensive: proper set notation includes braces { }

"Mathematically offensive"

@Rafflesiaarnoldii not true. braces delimit set literals. You can use set operators with set variables as wel.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Huh? Isn't "my bitchez" a variable or something that represents the infinitely large set {your mom, Jan's mom, … everybody's mom …}

@JasonC *ur mom

@bjb568 that's not how set literals work in math!

user259867

@JanDvorak In this context, ∈ my bitchez means being contained in the set {my bitchez}. It's not a name of the set, it's the description of its contents.

4:38 AM

oh. Then fail.

@JanDvorak IT WERKS IN JAVASCRIPT

@JanDvorak Doh

@bjb568 no, it doesn't

moms = [person | person <- mankind,
                 gender person = Female,
                 length (children person) > 0]

@Rafflesiaarnoldii I strongly believe "my bitchez" should have a common notation to solve this problem, though, like \mathbb{B}

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4:43 AM

That's an array, not a set.

What's the difference?

an array is an ordered random-access collection that allows repetition

user259867

The elements of an array are indexed. Their order matters. The number of times they appear also matters. The arrays [mom, dad, dad] and [dad, mom] are different. The sets {mom, dad, dad} and {dad, mom} are the same. (I can repeat the same element in set description, but this does not make any difference for the set).

a set is an unordered collection without repetition

@Rafflesiaarnoldii what a crude way to say that :-D

IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH AND IF I RITE HORRIBLE PROTOTYPE FUNCTIONS IT'LL WERK!

user259867

4:47 AM

It might. If you take intro to discrete mathematics, on the other hand...

urmom.insert(this)

@JasonC push

I better go...

Lol

:P

4:51 AM

rejex this question please stackoverflow.com/questions/26813870/…

I should probably make a script to downvote all questions tagged with regex

@JanDvorak Make it include performance too.

That should actually be included in Pham, shouldn't it?

And android while you're at it.

and PHP

Lol probably.

4:53 AM

I'd say PHP is a read-only language

it's real hard to write something, but once it works, it's bea... wait, no, it isn't. Never mind.

I actually wrote devdoodle in php first. I am horrible.

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136183/…

5:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: weight loss meta use by za sion on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 97.7756: weight loss meta use on meta.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector true

@JanDvorak Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

user259867

Remarkable how these appear about the same time of day, every day.

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136184/…

previous piece at -3

5:16 AM

Why is spam usually constructed of poorly written, random sentence fragments?

I feel like it would almost be more likely to pass filters, or at least attract clicks, if it was well written and actually described the link.

@JasonC I've seen a well-written piece of spam advertising some house moving instructors.

well-written pieces of text are easier to learn by spam filters

@JanDvorak Yeah... but if it doesn't attract humans to click it then does it matter if it makes it through a filter? Unless I'm just naive and people actually do click those links.

@JasonC perhaps the spammers don't know about no-follow

cv-pls typo stackoverflow.com/questions/22815169/…

Ok, that got rid of the error however the bizarre thing is now the jquery stuff is not working. — bbcompent1 Apr 22 at 12:45

5:25 AM

@bbcompent1 now that's a very vague error description. Also, it belongs into a question (a new one, so that you don't invalidate existing answers) rather than an answer comment. This question may be deleted as caused by a typo — Jan Dvorak 38 secs ago

review pls 5k stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6182562

rejected

phew, tag saved

too-much-code stackoverflow.com/questions/26814102/abouth-deserializable

@JanDvorak statisticsOfSelectedPremierLeagueFootBallClubs blech

5:31 AM

yeah... that contributes

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 60.8358: Reestablish younger stiffness of this skin on drupal.stackexchange.com

@hichris123 true

previous two pieces at -4

do you have mod abilities at Drupal, @jon?

user259867

Now all three at -4. The quietest time of the week on SE.

'Night!

review pls 5k stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6182561

Night!

5:36 AM

@bjb568 peace

@Unihedron Is that a valid edit? I don't know much about the topic but I'll go with whatever you say.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/26813095/…

@JasonC it removes the total amount of characters by substantial amount => removes information => destructive

@JasonC I rejected as it's a radical change for the tag without community consent, you can read my reason for rejecting the excerpt edit here.

Yeah I'm just gonna leave that one to somebody else.

loophole of the hour: puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/3740/284

Ah that makes sense.

5:44 AM

It is now official. Microsoft has now purchased Mojang/Minecraft.

It’s official, today we welcome Mojang to the Microsoft Studios family. We're excited for the possibilities ahead w/the Minecraft community.

Tweeted by XboxP3 on November 6, 2014 at 2:36 PM

s/possibilities/money/

If I had a time machine I would go back 5 years and shamelessly steal minecraft as my own idea.

Quick, invent the next world-changing software!

Screw morals.

Moral screws.

5:47 AM

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That's an adorable brain with that tiny jetpack

Could we find an adorable jetpack with a tiny brain?

Oh. Squids.

ur mom is an adorable jetpack with a tiny brain

Hm; I wonder if I should start linking to Java 8 docs and let go of 7.

6:04 AM

Let it go

SE dead?

user259867

Sleeping / having fun, depending on timezone. The last of three Drupal pieces did get deleted; the other two are at -5. Well, they are off the front page waiting for a mod to wake up.

that'll do

!!/alive?

@cVplZ Of course

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HIBERNATE CRITERIA PROJECTION GET COLUMNS OF JOIN TABLES by user3550529 on stackoverflow.com

6:51 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243251/…

just when SE dies

user259867

7:07 AM

Meta spam is gone.

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243252/…

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Nuked it

Yay!

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Very polite conversation about mothers...hmm

o/

7:22 AM

\o

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\o/

\m/

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~~<^>~~ for cVplZ

7:48 AM

!!/alive?

@TGMCians Of course

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243253/…

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: UNABLE TO LOGIN TO CAKEPHP by lord_linus on stackoverflow.com

flagged user for profile pic as well

@SmokeDetector fixed

8:05 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How can you boosts your power with high muscles mass? by annortiiz on drupal.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector true

@JanDvorak Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

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Vandalism drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136187/…

That site has serious issues

@InfiniteRecursion drupal.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/42162

the largest of which is the lack of moderators at 5 AM CET

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8:10 AM

Thanks #uni #uni #uni #uni

This is not how this system work. It may be helpful for other users in future. so rollback it same as like in last state & answer what you did to solve the problem & dont forgot to accept it if its working for you. — TGMCians 30 secs ago

:D

What if it's not useful?

then still not an issue

@JanDvorak Doesn't matter on Drupal..

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8:12 AM

^^^

I went to check how SilentKiller's islam.se account is doing....apparently he removed it :/

It doesn't show on his network profile

Wow, just noticed that downvoting CW answers doesnt cost rep.

WHAT HAPPENED ?? — lord_linus 6 mins ago

this guy is shouting

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Why downvote CW? Improve it. If you are capable of judging it's content, fix it.

-4

A: What types of questions or answers should be made community wiki?

The only person to decide if a question is to be "wiki" is the asker, it should be completely up to her.

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lord_linus seems to be having a bad weekend

8:21 AM

Morning

Morning!

Morning!

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Morning

(added)

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(starred)

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8:31 AM

(mission-completed)

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Aug 31 at 11:44, by rene

@Bart We need a new word for that: Evolution!

^ the star wall looks different nowadays...tavern is in it's next phase of evolution

I see my name for it still doesn't stick ...

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kiamlaluno ♦, Brescia, Italy

50.3k 7 57 132

7 hooks 6 theming modules nodes form-api

> When I am not on Drupal Answers (where I am moderator), Stack Overflow, Meta Stack Overflow, or English Language & Usage, I am on Drupal.org removing spam

drupal.org gets lots of spam too :p

8:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: GET FREE XBOX LIVE CODES NO SURVEYS NO DOWNLOADS by Kevin Donnaly on askubuntu.com

@SmokeDetector true

@JanDvorak Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

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What a long spam!

Is it a good idea to disable voting arrows on a post if a spam flag is raised...till the flag is handled by the community or mods? Will it help keep the spam on the front page for more time and gather spam flags?

Spam Q (55.6%): The final approach to Increase Androgen hormone applying SkulpTek Pro lifting weights supplement, by Dan Tyler, on english.stackexchange.com.

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Long spams today

9:07 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Raise Androgen hormone using RageDNA Muscle building and Dietary supplement by Dan Tyler on english.stackexchange.com

9:20 AM

Wait, surveys are still a thing?

9:39 AM

Seems like spam... What do you think? stackoverflow.com/a/26815551/3622940

Doesn't seem relevant, and includes a link..

^^

anyway i am flagging

SPAM stackoverflow.com/a/26815573/3622940

@Unihedron On a glance, it doesn't look like actual spam to me. I'm not good at those tags though.

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cv-pls meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/276327/…

Thanks

9:59 AM

Last hour of Morning!

It's evening here..

Oh...

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Oh...

Oh...

Oh...

10:02 AM

Oh...

Oh...

Oh...

Oh...

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Hiya @KennyBOT, no blur for you?

Oh...

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10:07 AM

SPArchaeologist seems to be very busy with his sweetiebot nowadays :/

need one more approve 5k stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6184054

goes really slow in this hour...

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Everybody has a bot, except me :(

@InfiniteRecursion :(

> Approved just now:

@TGMCians Yay!

10:09 AM

starts a bot charity fund

@InfiniteRecursion /me also :(

donates to Infinite Recursion's bot charity fund

Anyone want to help out a rookie git user (spoiler alert: me) on a simple task?

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@TGMCians happy to know that :)

:)

@Unihedron I'm willing to help, but I'm no expert.

10:13 AM

@Sam Oh, it's very simple. I just can't figure out where to click. Here's the situation:

master A B C D
master2  B

I want to "cherry pick" part of commit D on `master2-head`, but it won't let me do it because I have uncommitted changes on `master2`. What can I do?

@InfiniteRecursion No, blurring is so 2014....

@Unihedron So why not commit then cherry pick?

Can I override the commit with the cherry pick commit?

@InfiniteRecursion Really? Ha. A typo!

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136197/…

10:17 AM

@Unihedron So that you'll have a single commit with your changes + part of D?

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: https://www.rescuetime.com/blocked/url/money.stackexchange.com by user2698178 on money.stackexchange.com

@Sam Yeah, preferably. I don't mind if master2 goes out of sync.

@SmokeDetector money.stackexchange.com/suggested-edits/3446

@Unihedron Erm, the only thing that comes to mind (which'll only be useful for small changes) is if you stash your changes somewhere, discard the changes git it tracking, cherry pick D, then add your changes from where you stashed them. Pretty hacky, I know.

@InfiniteRecursion Next time, please fix everything ;)

Pretty sure there is more left to edit though...

@Unihedron Besides that, I'll have to leave you wondering in Google's vast wilderness...

Let me just scroll down and check behind that rock. Annnnd ... nope, page copyright year starts with '19'. Oh God, is this a WEBRING?

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10:23 AM

Offensive A (100%): **** *** ****** **************************, by *******, on movies.stackexchange.com.

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Sure @rene ;)

10:39 AM

ok /me enjoying..watching movie

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~ Not everything is star-worthy...

2

~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?

2

why didn't @rene name his bot flower pot?

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@cVplZ Because I didn't gave it much thought?

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\oh

5

whose Kenny?

5

11:08 AM

@cVplZ BOTs need to be killed (... shutdown say their owners)

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oh, he's my fav Kenny

5

hides behind @Frank

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11:26 AM

starsplosion!

5

Can the bots behave, please?

2

*bots

2

there just being botanists

Botany!

*they're

11:42 AM

How I really should resolve merge conflicts:
* Create new branch
* Test changes
* Confirm that it still works; Merge
How I actually resolve merge conflicts:
* Discard parts of files, merges and hopes it works

When on your own that will work.... not a good idea with 30 devs in three different locations/timezones....

11:58 AM

*Confirm that it still works; merge
*Oh yeah, we're still on SVN ... this is not going to be fun

12:12 PM

Offensive A (90.9%): *** *** **** **** ***** ** *** **** ** **** ***, by ***************, on gaming.stackexchange.com.

12:27 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: What is people review about muscles building supplement? by brendarenshiaw on drupal.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector true

need one more approve (5k): stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6184425

Not everybody seems to get the humor of my answer....

It is a matter of speech, I'm perfectly aware how WinForms works.... — rene 3 mins ago

12:40 PM

I'm a bit confused now. Looks like the OP agrees that it's closed but now want to debate my point of view it being too broad?

In either case he would have failed that audit....

12:53 PM

Low Quality A (25.4%): hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll..., by amelia, on english.stackexchange.com.

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