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3:02 PM

Guh, I'm slacking off someone beat me to troll-starring @jad

@JoshuaHynes I like your bio.

Joshua Hynes

3:39 PM

@mootinator Which one? The personal profile here?

@JoshuaHynes The job description on meta, yeah.

Joshua Hynes

@mootinator Haha. Thanks.

hey all - I'm trying to work out the right place to ask a question, and after that work out if the question is too subjective for the stackoverflow network

This is a fun an informative place to do that, potentially.

Ok!

First of all, my question relates to the technical aspects of starting a new ISP, specifically authentication, network hardware, etc, etc.

The main point I'm asking for is help with a "checklist" of things todo, or things I may not have realized are required technical knowledge or required technical investments to proceed.

I read through blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective and from what I read, I think my questions falls under the category of prompted anecdotal responses, based on peoples real experience

I'm basically trying to gauge generally accepted information (not advice, rather technical knowledge) from people with the relevant experience

Does that makes sense?

3:49 PM

Yes.

Ok, I'm glad it makes sense :D. I wasn't sure if I was putting that across correctly!

I think if it were a good question it would fit best on serverfault.

I was thinking maybe I'd put it in "Network Engineering". I know Super User or Server Fault have a bigger audience, but I don't know if it'd fit

Oh ok, cool

I feel a "but" coming :P

Haha, I didn't even know that one existed, I've been away too long.

Nor did I until today! I spent a good amount of time puzzling through the different subsites before coming here :P

3:55 PM

You'd probably be better off trying to ask more specific questions, generally.

Or even, "this is my checklist so far, am I missing anything vitally important" might go over better.

See, that's where I'm in a bit of a pickle. The information I already have I could use to create specific questions isn't relevant, as I already know it.

Oh that's a good way of putting it. Ok, I might try that out :)

Thanks mootinator!

Q: Technical requirements for starting a layer 2 FTTH network

4:17 PM

thanks for your help mootinator, just wanted to let you know I've reworded what I'd already written drastically based on your advice - fingers crossed!

In Australia, we are rolling out a FTTP 1Gbps nationwide currently. This makes it an opportune time to get into the ISP market (as previously there was a stranglehold on it). The FTTP network provides a virtual circuit over the entire country, but no international transit or additional peering. ...

user200500

4:37 PM

ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

Uh-oh.

I sense disapproval.

But I guess if you're just going for a reversal badge that's okay.

user200500

*crosses fingers*

7:56 PM

How to treat angry trolls like this guy? chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/36357/…

Context: stackoverflow.com/questions/18472157/… - he initially asserted something incorrect (that expressions are the same as statements in C), then I corrected him, and the he continued insisting that he was right, and ultimately he called me a son of a bitch and an asshat. What gives?

Anna Lear

@H2CO3 walk away

@AnnaLear Ah okay. well, he is not responding to my legitimate question anyway (the chat transcript is worth a read IMHO).

@AnnaLear Care to do the honors stackoverflow.com/users/2723012/user2723012

Anna Lear

@Bart done

Thanks. :)

8:07 PM

Why is that question showing up as deleted by it's owner? I could have sworn the troll deleted it himself :-?

(before the account got nuked)

@Mat Apparently he did

@Bart: well, I guess that's a strategy to not have his question deleted by mods :-)

@Mat If only we could convince him to make his strategy "don't post on SO".

@Mat Yeah, he deleted it himself... I don't know why.

@Bart: well if he's going to post anywhere, I'd rather he stay on SO. Saw stuff posted all over the place once or twice before, it's even messier. (e.g. found this non-nuked account of his with 4 profiles stackoverflow.com/users/2715715/user2710779).

8:16 PM

True @Mat. It's amazing how fast everybody is getting at this though. He pops up in the spam extension I'm running, but when I encounter him, he has downvotes and flags/closevotes in seconds.

That chat transcript is a doozy @H2CO3. Some people are not worth worrying over.

Reminds me of the user who actually sent me an email insulting me because I edited his question. Something along the lines of me having a superiority complex because I fixed some spelling and grammar issues. Always fun. :)

@Bart OMG. That's "nice". This is even better. I really can't figure out what's so wrong with my answer. Whatever...

8:44 PM

Same thing from our troll (stackoverflow.com/questions/18475120/…), deleted right after posting. This is weird. @AnnaLear?

It's not deleted atm @Mat.

Ah, and now it is, but by a mod.