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This was totally my fault though, I accidentally ended up calling .getFirstResult() instead of .getSingleResult() on a query returning COUNT() and was left wondering why the SQL didn't appear to actually be executed.

Scrooginator

Oops.

Tim Stone

Yeah...heh.

Scrooginator

I've been working with CakePHP lately. It's almost not impossible to optimize queries with.

Tim Stone

I've been spoiled so much by Dapper in SEDE, unfortunately.

Scrooginator

1:24 AM

CakePHP actually does have the option of mapping raw SQL queries to models, so that's at least nice.

Tim Stone

Ah, nice.

I wrote a tiny wrapper to do that with JPA for work, since it was getting rather annoying to manually cast stuff being returned from the JPA native query method.

Scrooginator

It would probably lose an efficiency race against Dapper by an order of magnitude still :P

Ah, nice.

Tim Stone

Hibernate has support for doing that mapping itself, but it's not exposed through the JPA-side of things, so have to work with what you got I suppose.

@Scrooginator Well, Dapper does all sorts of crazy il voodoo magic. :P

Scrooginator

Yep.

Tim Stone

There's a Java library that makes bytecode generation fairly painless that I've used briefly, I'm curious if I could use it to write up a Java semi-port of Dapper...hmm.

Theoretically a Java version should be a bit simpler, since Java's typing is a bit less complex. :P

ajax333221

1:51 AM

too many upvotes in this question o.o

4

Q: Javascript if statements not working

Pretty straight-forward what I want to do. If 0 is input (they didnt input a number) it should tell you so. When 7 is input, it should say that you got it right. Anything else, it should tell you you got it wrong. It just outputs the "7 is correct" line no matter what is input, I can't figure it...

Scrooginator

Meh.

ajax333221

the number of questions because people using assignment operation = (instead of ==) is too high

Scrooginator

True.

So why did you answer it instead of voting to close and/or downvoting then?

Things like that get upvotes because people can relate. It's kind of a tricky thing if you're not aware of it.

Not because it shows research effort and is unique or useful =)

Moshe

hi

Scrooginator

Hi @mos

ajax333221

2:05 AM

@Scrooginator well, there was much more wrong in the question, and the current 2 answers didn't talked about the other issues

animuson

According to Excel, I own 306 games.

Scrooginator

According to Kickstarter I've paid for 11 games that don't exist yet

Well, 9 really.

That included cancelled and silly ones that will fail.

That seems like a lot of console games.

animuson

You can never have too many games. But I actually have so many that I've setup a cataloging system so I can keep track of them by barcode now...

ajax333221

2:22 AM

using HEX numbers because decimals where not enough

ajax333221

2:59 AM

well my comment made no sense, not all bar codes use numbers

but who doesn't love potatoes?

Moshe

3:19 AM

yo

Tim Stone

3:32 AM

Man, completely off-topic questions are staying open far too long on Meta tonight. This is just further proof I need a special network-wide meta diamond, for Great Justice. I'd explain how that made sense, but it's complicated and I don't want to bore anyone.

animuson

3:57 AM

Lies! All lies!

Scrooginator

Makes perfect sense to me.

jadarnel27

5:14 AM

@TimStone What is this shocking news?!

Oh. Work-work. What a weird thing to do on a Wednesday.

Scrooginator

I seem to not remember how to change my DNS records.

Ah, there, now I have a domain name for people to DoS my laptop with.

jadarnel27

I introduce you to some people on the network team at work that also have trouble with changing DNS records.

Scrooginator

O_o.

jadarnel27

Dec 7 at 4:39, by jadarnel27

So, instead of 15 minutes, it took two hours. Because someone forgot to recreate the alias for the web server after changing the IP address.

Scrooginator

I remember that.

For only another $200 a month I can get a symmetric connection and, er, yeah that's pointless.

jadarnel27

5:23 AM

heads off to DoS mootinator's laptop

looks up DoS

...looks up how to do that

Scrooginator

That isn't in the same Wikipedia article?

Lame.

jadarnel27

Heeeeeeeey mootinator. What is your, um... public-facing Internet Protocol address ...on that laptop?

And how was your day off?

Scrooginator

Fantabulous.

I accomplished nothing of substance.

That's the idea right?

jadarnel27

That is the idea, yes.

Great jorb!

Scrooginator

Tomorrow I'm talking to a sketchy recruiter. I'm not sure why recruiters all seem sketchy to me.

It might be because they say "I saw your LinkedIn profile and you're friggin amazing!"

Whereas the actual text on that profile is something like "I develop web applications and stuff."

jadarnel27

5:30 AM

Yeah. They are all pretty sketch.

The recruiter guy that got me my last job just not-so-subtly asked me to "endorse" him on LinkedIn.

Really nice guy, though, in general. I just thought that was funny.

Scrooginator

Yeah...

I should recycle vaporware.doesntexist.com that's a good subdomain.

jadarnel27

YAY

Scrooginator

\o/

Scrooginator

6:26 AM

Everybody be cool; this is a robbery!

crickets

Daniel Fischer

9:59 AM

1

A: How to resolve a Java Rounding Double issue

double newNum = Math.floor(num * 100 + 0.5) / 100; is just the same as double newNum = Math.round(num * 100 ) / 100;

Gotta love the review queue.

webarto

11:28 AM

Hey guys, please review this user mayank, he's spamming all rooms with some link for android app of his... i.imgur.com/bjjfu.png

balpha

looking

ThiefMaster

link to his profile?

ah, then nvm

webarto

mayank

147 1 11

android android-layout android-widget blackberry exception-handling fullscreen multiscreen

Yup, sorry.

balpha

chat.stackoverflow.com/users/1597844/mayank?tab=recent <-- you could call that "spam" indeed :)

webarto

Well, obviously viagra links are not suitable here :P

Thanks guys.

balpha

11:40 AM

thanks for the heads-up

ThiefMaster

@balpha: There is a followup on that guy in TL; might want to have a look at that as well since you are already dealing with that nice fella

balpha

heading over

user200500

Quick question: If next review task AJAX responses indicate whether a review task is an audit, couldn't someone just write a userscript to skip all audits?

user200500

Shouldn't there be a way to hide this from the client?

jadarnel27

1:49 PM

Does the response indicate that a particular task is an audit? I didn't know that.

Moshe

2:04 PM

For an efficient union, don't use an oracle. Use an efficient clergyman! — Moshe 41 secs ago

^___ Does anyone get the joke?

Manishearth

3:14 PM

100 bronze badges on meta. What do I get? :P

Popular Demand

@Manishearth A higher dose of depression meds?

Manishearth

@PopularDemand ah :P

@PopularDemand Hmm, did the owner-is-absent chatroom script make you the owner?

Popular Demand

@Asad The theory is that the audits are meant to catch those who are either ignorant because they're new or apathetic, lazy badge grinders. If that theory is correct, then audit avoidance is a non-issue, because neither of those groups is likely to be pumping out userscripts.

@Manishearth No, jcolebrand granted me ownership manually.

Manishearth

Ah

Popular Demand

By the way, congrats on making progress in your plan to be supreme overlord of the pure science Stack Exchanges.

Manishearth

3:18 PM

@PopularDemand Thanks... I guess :P

Tim Stone

Okay, all seems aboveboard and in line with the evidence I presented in the question itself. Holding off a bit on the acceptance until someone official has a chance to comment, though. — Popular Demand Aug 27 '10 at 18:59

Little did you know one day Grace would transcend to the upper echelon of Stack Exchange. :P

Popular Demand

Weird. I just closed that tab.

Tim Stone

I forgot to mention that the direct MSO feed that's piped into my brain also includes the browsing activity of all noteworthy MSO users.

Popular Demand

I was thinking of deleting that comment since it's essentially noise now, but it's also very slightly funny.

And now look at all the noise that's being added to chat because of said comment!

Tim Stone

The Tavern thrives on noise. If it was quiet in here, people wouldn't think this was the spot where the cool kids hung out after their important business meetings and lunch socials.

Popular Demand

3:23 PM

@TimStone That's disturbing on so many levels I don't even know where to begin.

Tim Stone

It's best to just not think about it. Or pretend I'm like Santa, only too lazy to actually give out presents.

Moshe

3:34 PM

I should be studying, and I'm editing my StackOverflow answers.

(Also, thinking about scraping a school course registration website...)

Scrooginator

4:04 PM

I'm annoyed. I should blog about that or something. I'm sure it would attract ~~dozens~~ ~~a few~~ my wife would read it.

Popular Demand

I suppose it's possible, if you bribed her.

Or, you could report a Mootinator's maddening matter. Unless you can't do that while named Scrooginator.

jadarnel27

I have a pedantic whatever thing to express. I'm too lazy to come up with a bunch of "J" words though.

Popular Demand

Worst. Same-time twin. Ever.

jadarnel27

That was actually kind of awesome.

Popular Demand and I are now begrudging same-time brothers.

Scrooginator

I agreed to talk to a recruiter this morning. My displeasure at how she approached me somehow grew into a list of grievances with the entire HR/recruiting industry.

jadarnel27

4:10 PM

It bugs me when people send screenshots by pasting them into a word document.

Scrooginator

Back in the day people had to nail things like those to church doors to get attention.

Popular Demand

So... you're saying your list of grievances is 95 items long?

They're more theses.

@Shog9 I was going to say the guy at the beginning looks a bit like @jco, but now I'm starting to worry I'm just racist against bearded white men.

Shog9

4:16 PM

The fact that you consider them a race means you're definitely a racist.

Scrooginator

Race isn't genetic, we choose race.

Shog9

You did, maybe. That sounds like something a racist would do. As a proud non-racist, I refuse to limit myself to such strictures.

Scrooginator

Mootinator's mundate madness of the minute: People who complain they don't get taken seriously, but are rarely serious.

Wait, that's me :O

Scrooginator

4:39 PM

Mootinator's more maddening minutia: Setting a job up to run overnight, and having Windows decide its updates are more important.

Hmm, I'm going to have a kid who just figured out doorknobs and a newborn any day now. That can't be good.

user200500

5:09 PM

@PopularDemand Yeah, but as you guys start putting in repercussions for failed audits there is more of an incentive for something like this. Plus you don't have to make a bookmarklet to use a bookmarklet. All it takes is one blog post in some dark corner of the internet.

user200500

Shog just put in review suspensions for people who fail a bunch of audits, for example.

jadarnel27

The good thing about kids, mootinator, is that they are dumb. They'll believe just about anything an adult tells them.

Just tell your kid that there are monsters in the doorknobs - problem solved.

I'm going to be an awesome parent some day.

Scrooginator

So, I talked to that recruiter.

Turns out I'm a flake.

Me: Where is your office anyway?

answers

Me: Riiiiiiight, a floor below my office. Derp.

Fosco

5:27 PM

user200500

What do the tear off tabs say?

Popular Demand

@Asad Which of my messages is that a reply to?

user200500

@PopularDemand The theory is that...

user200500

@PopularDemand This one right here

Popular Demand

Yeah, I see it now. Chat has a reply feature to simplify this kind of linking. Click the down-and-right arrow that appears on a message to reply to it.

user200500

5:35 PM

@PopularDemand Test.

Popular Demand

Actually, that's just a shortcut for prepending :12345 to your next message, where 12345 is the ID number of the message you're replying to.

user200500

@PopularDemand Thanks, don't really use chat too often.

Scrooginator

I use chat too often.

Popular Demand

No problem. The arrow that appears at the start of replies links to the replied-to message. Replied-to messages also get highlighted when hovering over the reply.

Scrooginator

This unsolicited opinion was brought to you by crack.

user200500

5:37 PM

@Scrooginator Thanks, don't really use crack too often.

Scrooginator

@Asad I don't recommend it.

jadarnel27

6:30 PM

Any at all is too often, based on the limited experience I have with people that have used it.

Scrooginator

I don't think I have any experience with that. All the junkies I know are affluent enough to be able to afford cocaine.

Octavian Damiean

Ohai, can I haz sum codeZ?

:D

Hello there, people of the tavern. How's things?

Scrooginator

@OctavianDamiean Good! How are you!

Octavian Damiean

Good good. Thanks.

Just came here to bug @balpha a bit.

Scrooginator

I just decided on a side-project for my vacation so I don't sit around doing nothing the whole time.

Octavian Damiean

6:43 PM

Got him a Christmas present.

Scrooginator

Ooo.

balpha

<_<

>_>

Octavian Damiean

Well, for him it's actually not a preset but don't tell him. All he'll get from it is some work. :)

balpha

runs

Octavian Damiean

github.com/mainerror/SO-GitHub-Onebox.git

I've written a very sloppy userscript to onebox GitHub project URLs. :)

Just thought you might want to know (cough cough).

Fosco

6:45 PM

Heya Oct..

Octavian Damiean

It's nothing fancy, in fact it's ugly but it should show him how much I'd like that feature and that I've even put some effort into it. :D

o/ @Fosco How's things?

Scrooginator

@OctavianDamiean If it happens to use the opengraph tags on those, you have my support.

Fosco

@OctavianDamiean Pretty great, thanks :)

Octavian Damiean

Now there's two possible scenarios for what may happen next. 1.) He'll add me to his ignore list (he should have done that ages ago heh) or 2.) He'll be totally blown away by the idea and let his unicorn do it.

@Scrooginator Mhmm, interesting.

balpha

github.com/mainerror/SO-GitHub-Onebox.git

hmm nothing happened

Octavian Damiean

6:50 PM

:(

Did you reload after installing?

ducks

Scrooginator

It uses API calls? That's good too. Not as reusable :P

Octavian Damiean

@Scrooginator Yea, it uses GitHub's API.

It's actually only one call to the API so nothing dramatic.

@balpha Oh, I'm a tit sorry. That's not working on chat.Meta.

Only on chat.SO for now.

Scrooginator

Yeah, lightweight download for sure.

balpha

github.com/mainerror/SO-GitHub-Onebox.git

Octavian Damiean

Of course a final version wouldn't use Handlebars (or any templating engine for that matter), I was just lazy.

Scrooginator

6:52 PM

The main problem with og tags is the wall of text it has to download to get that tiny bit of info.

balpha

>

XMLHttpRequest cannot load https://api.github.com/repos/mainerror/SO-GitHub-Onebox?_=1355424760191. Origin http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin.

@OctavianDamiean or javascript, for that matter :)

Tim Stone

The GitHub API is super stupid when it comes to CORS -_-

Octavian Damiean

@balpha Yup, it's only available on chat.SO because of CORS.

@balpha Oh? :)

Tim Stone

The oneboxes are rendered server-side. :P

balpha

oneboxes aren't implemented clientside

Scrooginator

6:56 PM

Yeah, turns out oneboxes get done server-side.

SAME TIME BROTHERS!

Tim Stone

status-ninjaed

balpha

looks good though

Octavian Damiean

@TimStone They support JSONP calls though even though I hate that.

balpha

(the first try just flashed briefly though)

Octavian Damiean

@balpha Hopefully because github.com/mainerror/SO-GitHub-Onebox/blob/master/…

heh

balpha

6:57 PM

@OctavianDamiean how so? JSONP is the the best thing since scliced bread :)

(for public data, of course)

Octavian Damiean

The laziness is strong in me.

@balpha Mostly because of the security risks but that's not really problematic for public data, yea.

balpha

oh yeah, putting private data on a JSONP would be horribly stupid

Octavian Damiean

There's a bug apparently, the user url in my onebox is wrong. :/

balpha

and for the record, you have a pluralization bug ;p

Octavian Damiean

1 watches lol :D

Just realized.

Tim Stone

7:04 PM

What sort of madness has @jcolebrand unleashed upon Meta? There's far too much holiday cheer in the air.

mmyers

We... were getting a little carried away in the mod chatroom

so Aarthi made us post it all on Meta instead

Tim Stone

shakes head

On the plus side, now we can /blame @Aarthi

Scrooginator

...and the first thing that comes to my mind is: Jeff's nuts roasting on an open fire.

I have serious problems.

mmyers

Yes, yes you do

Scrooginator

When I see song parodies my brain says CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

Tim Stone

7:11 PM

"The mission, if you choose to accept it, is to find the quickest way to derail the conversation."

Scrooginator

Nyuk.

Octavian Damiean

I sense GitHub oneboxing awesomeness ahead.

Scrooginator

Huzzah?

Octavian Damiean

Oh yea, @balpha I've also planned to add GitHub user URL oneboxing (hint hint if you're at it). :D

Scrooginator

7:42 PM

@TimStone What I really meant by that is I've been known to spend an afternoon on it I don't usually just blurt out the first inappropriate rhyme that pops into my head. Honest.

Tim Stone

Hahah :P

Popular Demand

8:01 PM

Jeremy Banks, paraphrasing the podcast: "The one site where hats will be enabled but we're not having them on by default is Stack Overflow. There we're doing the opposite: there will be an 'I Love Hats' button in the footer and you can go press that and suddenly you start seeing hats. [In addition to performance issues we want to avoid] the situation where the whole internet is like 'why are there hats on Stack Overflow' and 'Stack Overflow has jumped the shark.'"

2

(because apparently I can't re-pin a previously pinned message)

Scrooginator

Feature request, feature request (feature request) (sung to the tune of "creature report" from the Octonauts).

dance break

Octavian Damiean

You mocking me?

Scrooginator

Who mocking what? I'm not mocking anyone, I just watch too much children's TV on account of being at home all the time.

jadarnel27

makes vague joke about the "eight" prefix

Octavian Damiean

I should patent that prefix, if Apple can patent rounded corners I can patent a prefix.

Rebecca Chernoff

9:13 PM

(:

Tim Stone

:O

What did you do? :P

Rebecca Chernoff

that's what you get from me smiling? |:

Tim Stone

You showing up with a "random" smile just screams shenanigans, of course.

jadarnel27

^---Truth

mmyers

I was just trying to figure out if the "Where are you, @rchern?" song was creepy or not

Rebecca Chernoff

9:16 PM

@TimStone it wasn't random.

Tim Stone

Fixed.

Rebecca Chernoff

@mmyers hehe (;

Scrooginator

@mmyers I don't blame you.

Anonymous

9:52 PM

@TimStone So about that MySQL Mono SEDE release... :P

Anonymous

(my calendar just reminded me to bug you)

Tim Stone

Hahah, my plan is still to finish it up today (if I said by today, I misspoke :P), but I'm at the office at the moment.

Anonymous

Cool. :)

Tim Stone

I'm sure something will go horribly wrong, but if that happens I'll find an acceptable scapegoat.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Hey all

Tim Stone

9:56 PM

Probably @RebeccaChernoff, just 'cause. (:

Tim Stone

10:25 PM

Come on, Tim Stone should totally have been able to figure that out. rolls eyes — animuson 51 secs ago

I audibly lol'ed

ajax333221

(eval === evil) — Matti Mehtonen 22 mins ago

@MattiMehtonen, this is stereotype, if you sanitize data and 100% sure about what you are doing this is very handy tool. BW look at jQuery 'globalEval' they are using it ;) — dmi3y 17 mins ago

@dmi3y. Ok then. (eval == evil) :) — Matti Mehtonen 14 mins ago

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Evan Carroll

10:42 PM

HALLO FRIENDS.

animuson

11:05 PM

Does anyone know where I could get or buy a "replacement" blu-ray sleeve insert for a movie? I absolutely despise this "case" that The Social network comes in and I want to put it in a normal blu-ray case but I don't have any artwork to put in the sleeve.

user200500

11:23 PM

Why would you buy The Social Network?

Lix

11:53 PM

@eva - I was just thinking of you...

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Q: How does stackoverflow tries to keep the site democratic?

I have joined only 2 days ago. I have had questions about Hadoop and big data which I have not been able to find answers to in the last month that I have been going through dozens of article and tutorials. I ask them here and an old user makes a sarcastic comment about one of the questions, and...

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