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12:00 AM
It was swell fun, everyone! Have a good weekend!
No, wait, have a great weekend!
 
lol
Does that mean you're out then Adam?
It only just dawned on me to ask you about Reactors ...
 
My kiddles are asking me to play anime on the computer I'm using. So, yeah, I'm out.
 
lol, later
 
@drachenstern send me an email - adavis@ubasics.com
 
@rchern_sockpuppet419 aye
 
12:02 AM
bye all! Happy foolish day!
 
12:19 AM
@rchernsockpuppet419 Happy foolish day - "Fake Jeff Atwood"
damm, I forgot I just changed my gravatar >.>
 
12:37 AM
> Transocean Ltd. had its "best year in safety performance" despite the explosion of its Deepwater Horizon rig that left 11 dead and oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, the world's largest offshore-rig company said in a securities filing Friday. Accordingly, Transocean's executives received two-thirds of their target safety bonus. Safety accounts for 25% of the equation that determines the yearly cash bonuses, along with financial factors including new rig contracts.
#puke #hurl #nausea
 
@drachenstern Please tell me that's an April 1 post.
 
@PopularDemand that would be sanity, so no
It is, however, posted as "BUSINESS APRIL 2, 2011"
Glad to see I'm not the only one incensed by that payout.
 
1:00 AM
Every time I get my grandmother to do remote assistance, she gets so confused for the exact same sequence of steps. And I know I use my computer more in a day than she uses it in a month ... grrrr......
And she can't use tabs ... why oh why can't my uncle or my aunt who insist on showing her bad techniques go over and do this instead??? :(
 
1:14 AM
heh, my rep is palindromic atm on SO
 
 
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2:40 AM
am I just dumb and not able to understand this request for that reason?
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Q: How do I do a complex GROUP BY in MySQL?

Michael McGowanI have a table that contains several keys into other tables (where each key is comprised of multiple columns). I would like to be able to group rows together that have an equal key, but I don't want to group all of them together. It's not a simple GROUP BY on the key but rather I want to be abl...

 
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Q: Do we need a "no-pants" option for Fun/Joke Posts?

Joe LarsonI was one of the many who made the mistake of asking a April Fools question on SO today. It got shut down and removed in about 5 minutes, which is an impressive display of the site's self-moderation powers. Fun and Joke posts seem inevitable for a programming Q&A site. Programmers are funn...

 
#homegoing #dogwalking #foodeating
 
I had to get one last one in.
g'night!
Enjoy eating your dog and walking your food!
 
Oh, I'll be back, I just finished some serious changes that I need to followup on
@AdamDavis #ICWatUDidThar
 
2:43 AM
heh
 
Also:
 
hehe
 
3:31 AM
yawns
 
/nods
 
Now that that's out of my system...time to code, or something.
 
3:53 AM
I see everyone is back to normal ... Oh what a fun day eh?
Ya know what comes tomorrow right?
 
@drachenstern Saturday?
 
@RebeccaChernoff: I was looking at SEChatModifications.user.js and I have a quick question.
 
And Sunday after
 
@drachenstern Lol... :)
@RebeccaChernoff: I noticed that it was relatively easy to add extra commands - but I couldn't tell if there was an easy way to add OB support for another website or something.
 
I couldn't help myself, I've been holding it in all day :p
@GeorgeEdison the adding extra commands was Josh and Tim's doings
 
3:55 AM
@drachenstern Oh you ;)
 
@drachenstern Ah... is there an easy way to add OB support for something?
 
In terms of an actual OB, or the psuedo-OB that Yi Jiang made for Vimeo?
 
@GeorgeEdison if the website implements a callback for the JSON, yes it's fairly trivial. If you have to parse the website to get what you want, not so much.
@TimStone the pseudo-OB
 
@drachenstern What do you mean by implementing a callback for the JSON?
Do you mean if my script provides a function that returns JSON?
 
Do you know what JSONP is?
 
3:58 AM
Yes.
 
If the site supports JSONP then yes
you would follow Yi's template
 
What I have in mind is to create a small script on my server that sends JSONP...
...and the script on my server would do the hard work.
However, what I don't know is how to tie that into the chat script.
Would I redefine the 'ob' command?
...or do something else?
 
Right, so there's currently no way to extend the psuedo-OBs without modifying the script.
But that's only because no one asked for it, so I can go ahead and add something in now if you'd like. :)
 
oh, because you're adding a new OB you want to go in addition to the current OB setup ...
@TimStone yes, that would be the best ;)
 
Huh, N++ disappeared from my task bar..
 
4:02 AM
Odd
 
@TimStone Could you add something for Launchpad?
 
are you sure you don't have two rows now?
@GeorgeEdison I believe what he means is he's going to redefine the OB support to allow extension adding on your own box
 
@drachenstern Oh, okay - that would be excellent.
 
Yeah, I'll add in a hook so that you can define generators based on the requested domain.
 
@TimStone How long will it take?
(...and I don't want to hear 6 - 8 weeks!)
 
4:04 AM
Maybe an hour or two, since I'm finishing up something else at the moment.
 
Oh! That's pretty good.
Thanks!
 
No problem!
 
Glad I could help!
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hides
 
I'm just glad that there's now only one of you so I stop getting confused :P
"Why is she talking about that? Oh, it's Yi Jiang."
 
4:08 AM
@TimStone Glad I wasn't the only one. Avatar for recognition FTW
 
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A: PHP: move_upload_file() saves file with wrong extension.

Brian MNevermind, it's bad code after what I pasted above. The code for this software is poorly written. I would suggest staying far from this software, even if it is free.

scratches head
Two Deals of the Day? Manning, you spoil me.
Oh, that's why, "Half off SharePoint books." They must have felt compelled to follow that up with something else. :P
Ah, I was wrong...the second one is somehow from April 7th. Apparently I'm just in a time rift. shrugs
 
@TimStone VtC?
 
I don't even know.
 
@TimStone Yeah, tomorrow is Friday and I'm gonna be hanging with all my frans ... I'm just not sure in which seat. Why, what day do you think it is?
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<-- is feeling a little silly. It's probably the 14 hours I slept last night
 
How could someone so brutally destroy the spirit of such a great day?
 
4:13 AM
lol, whomever do you mean?
 
4:25 AM
@drachenstern Try the booster seat.
 
4:49 AM
> edit: nor do I get a kissy-unicorn when accepting an answer! Cheeeerrrrnooooooofffff!
+1 for Cheeeerrrrnooooooofffff!
@RebeccaCheeeeeerrrrrrrnooooooofffffffff!
 
Do I even want to know where that is?
 
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Q: Who needs to be fired for not implementing unicorns/ponicorns on comment moderation?

Daniel DiPaoloI mean, sure - regular upvote/downvote unicorns are great, but can we really say we are serving the best interest of the community by treating comments as second class cornizens and not gracing them with unicorny goodness in their moderation as well? Maybe the real April Fool's joke is this grav...

Dooooo it, or you'll be fired!
 
oh right, I forgot about that one.
nah, we'll just fire you instead.
 
@RebeccaChernoff You can't fire someone who isn't even employed!
 
You dare question my powers?
 
5:02 AM
checks to make sure that's the real balpha
 
muahahaha
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yes ma'am, yes I am
 
Suffrage badges per day: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/q/96670/…, Suffrage badges in the past 24 hours: api.stackoverflow.com/1.1/badges/…
 
WTF happened October 19th? :P
 
retroactive awarding when the badge was created?
 
5:08 AM
yep
 
You people and your logic..
 
I know, disgusting isn't it? q:
 
ok, just voted up an answer @ #stackoverflow and some goats started to dance next to answer :) #anyidea? /cc @codinghorror
goats? really?
 
Hahahah, they didn't believe hard enough, so they fail.
 
5:10 AM
reading this makes my eyes glaze over.
 
:D
 
user image
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You should have had its hoof trampling the discarded souls of the heretics, but this is still good.
 
lol
I can ... see? ... the distinction. Here see? is a nullable obviously
 
5:18 AM
hg push git+shh://, whoops.
 
Eheheh :P
Apparently they haven't implemented the "git whisper" protocol yet.
 
Should I replace all instance of ae with æ in that egad question?
 
Though that's actually just another bug I need to figure out, argh.
 
@YiJiang is it the one Adam did?
 
5:22 AM
@drachenstern Yeah
 
@YiJiang you should
 
Lemme see what other ligatures can I stick in there
Hmm, it seems like the diff is treating æ as ae in the body, but not the title
 
f for s?
and the contractions should be removed, it's clearly intended to be formal
 
@drachenstern I don't see any contractions
 
I'm rec
The very first three characters
They may, however, be the only ones
 
5:29 AM
As for the s -> f thingy, you're referring to this, right?
The long, medial or descending s (ſ) is a form of the minuscule letter s formerly used where s occurred in the middle or at the beginning of a word, for example ſinfulneſs ("sinfulness"). The modern letterform was called the terminal or short s. History The long s is derived from the old Roman cursive medial s. When the distinction between upper case (capital) and lower case (small) letter-forms became established, towards the end of the eighth century, it developed a more vertical form. In this period it was occasionally used at the end of a word, a practice which quickly died out bu...
Hmmm, too late, that second edit didn't get rolled into the first
 
Might be too much of an anachronism for most readers though, ah well
 
bloody hell, have you seen the post?
 
@drachenstern Well yes, but... eh, okay, which era did that came from? Wikipedia says that the last incidence of the long s died out at around the 1820s, surely that post is more modern than that?
 
@YiJiang no, I don't think so
:See also the disambiguation page for Aether, for theories named after the synonym "Quintessence" see the disambiguation page Quintessence Aether theories in early modern physics proposed the existence of a medium, the aether (also spelled ether, from the Greek word (), meaning "upper air" or "pure, fresh air"), a space-filling substance or field, thought to be necessary as a transmission medium for the propagation of electromagnetic waves. The assorted aether theories embody the various conceptions of this "medium" and "substance". This early modern aether has little in common with the ae...
I'll use this as my primary argument.
Now, if we're going to presume steampunk only, then 1860s era would be target timeframe, but given the reference to the aether as tho it were a requirement, I'll say 1700s or before.
There were crackpots in the 1900s referring to the aether even
 
5:39 AM
Okay, well this is going to be a little weird
 
only where the s is in the middle of the word, iirc
 
And the first, says the Wikipedia article. Also, there are some ligatures I need to use...
 
I've just never paid attention to the beginnings of words then written that way I suppose
 
Okay, all the ff and ce also need to be replaced - gosh...
 
5:54 AM
Right, that's almost done, what other sort of anachronism can we stick in there?
 
I have no clue
That was the only one I could come up with
 
There are some anachronistic spelling like those used by the New Yorker
But can't think or see any so far
This is... going to be weird
Hang on a second, I missed a few more
 
No no, that's BEAUTIFUL
Where the hell is @AdamDavis ...
 
6:09 AM
Hey, my name is ... and I am a Facebook addict. Why doesn't the data explorer have it as a sign in option ?
 
A true facebook addict would have nothing to do with the SEDE
 
Well you asked :p
 
This would not be happening if WP wasn't so messed up
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Q: Can't log in using WordPress.com OpenID

BoltClockI can't seem to log back in to stackoverflow.com now on my Mac (I'm still logged in on my PC). I'm getting the following error message (my OpenID provider is WordPress.com): Unable to log in with your OpenID provider: The following required parameters were missing from the DotNetOpenAuth...

 
 
6:16 AM
Hey look, a video of a spinning ring!
 
7 days
 
@Reno Ahahahaha, you had me there for a second
 
And ... I was right, clicking the link proved it so(pfft read the statusbar). I had rather guessed on account of the controls at the bottom
 
@drachenstern Well, technically speaking its an animated gif, not a video
 
6:18 AM
@YiJiang yes, I discovered this after I ... noticed the link in the onhover on my status bar ... yeah, that's the ticket
 
 
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10:35 AM
HI All
 
 
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12:24 PM
It's as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced 2 hours ago.
 
@badpssockpuppet Well, only 10, plus some lurkers
 
@YiJiang AWESOME.
 
Actually let me run that answer through ligaturify.py
 
12:40 PM
Done.
 
@badpssockpuppet Well, Wikipedia says that ƣ isn't really used in English
 
details.
 
Also, may I inquire from which location in the aether network may the said scroll be found?
 
You also made me add a ſt → ſt rule.
I probably posted it once on github... nope, I didn't.
gist: Embiggen the awesome of your text dissertations through ligature abuse, 2011-04-02 12:45:12Z
#/usr/bin/python3
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
import sys

if sys.version_info < (3,):
  raise Exception("This requires Python 3 to run. Sorry.")

ligatures = {	"db": "ȸ",
	"AE":	"Æ",
	"ae":	"æ",
	"OE":	"Œ",
	"oe":	"œ",	
	"ue":	"ᵫ",
	"ff":	"ff",
	"IJ":	"IJ",
	"ij":	"ij",
	"fi":	"fi",
	"fl":	"fl",
	"ffi":	"ffi",
	"ffi":	"ffi",
	"ffi":	"ffi",
	"ffl":	"ffl",
	"ffi":	"ffl",
	"ffl":	"ffl",
	"ffl":	"ffl",
	"ft":	"ſt",
	"OI":	"Ƣ",
	"oi":	"ƣ",
	"IJ":	"IJ",
	"ij":	"ij",
	"qp":	"ȹ",
	"st":	"st",
	"ſt":	"st",
        }

additional_ligatures = {	"et": "&",
	"SS":	"ẞ",
	"ss":	"ß",
	}

digraphs = {	"DZ":	"DZ",
	"Dz":	"Dz",
	"dz":	"dz",
	"DŽ":	"DŽ",
	"Dž":	"Dž",
	"dž":	"dž",
	"LJ":	"LJ",
	"Lj":	"Lj",
	"lj":	"lj",
	"NJ":	"NJ",
	"Nj":	"Nj",
	"nj":	"nj",
	}


text = sys.stdin.read()

for replacement_list in [ligatures, digraphs]:
  for letters, replacement in replacement_list.items():
    text = text.replace(letters, replacement)

sys.stdout.write(text)
 
@badpssockpuppet Ah, the great gathering of gathering gits.
 
12:47 PM
In a way using gist.github instead of github proper is much easier, and much inconvenient
because Careers probably doesn't look at gists :/
Is the list of gists I have posted public?
 
@badpssockpuppet Well, you can probably maintain a badpScripts repo for this purpose
 
@YiJiang That'd be inconvienent; what if you want to fork just one of those files?
Yeah, Careers ignores gists
I guess it shouldn't be too hard to convert a gist into a github project proper
the SSH setup is a PITA however
 
 
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2:28 PM
In other news, I just tried again writing a question for code review.SE
I have written [a small Python 3 program][1] that replaces certain character combinations with Unicode ligature and digraphs thereof. Here's the gist of it:

    ligatures = {
        "AE":   "Æ",
    	"ae":   "æ",
        "ff":   "ff", #1
    	"fi":   "fi", #2
    	"fl":   "fl",
    	"ffi":  "ffi", #3
        "ffl":  "ffl",
    }

    for letters, replacement in replacement_list.items():
      text = text.replace(letters, replacement)

There is a problem, however: since I used a dictionary, the order is not guaranteed. This means that rules 1 and 2 can (and do) prevent rule 3 from kicking in. I s
Better luck next time, code review
 
@badpssockpuppet Hehehe, the site is good for rubber ducking isn't it?
Talking to the wmd editor, hmmm...
 
3:03 PM
@TimStone: and @mootinator: @badpssockpuppet: I have doubt in java, can i shoot it
 
 
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4:19 PM
Any body here, i need a help
 
5:08 PM
@SankarGanesh, if you have a programming question, ask it on SO. (:
 
5:19 PM
pesters @RebeccaChernoff
 
So, this room froze itself again because I didn't know I had to say something after you unfroze it.
Also, Chat Feedback on SO is frozen, which might be OK, but maybe there should be a notice about visiting the Chat Feedback on chat.SE instead there?
The Stack Apps room is also frozen :p
 
 
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6:53 PM
I'm out of demo levels in SpaceChem, so one free star to whoever buys me a copy first
 
7:03 PM
@MichaelMrozek What's this? A chemistry themed "space" game?
 
@GeorgeMarian Ask @RebeccaChernoff to tell you about it; she's crazy for SpaceChem
 
Interesting. I just may give this a try.
 
7:29 PM
> one does not say "eeek" around unicorns. It's just Not Done™. – Martha 4 hours ago
 
8:18 PM
I'm pretty pleased with myself right now:
 
What's that?
besides "SpaceChem" .. I mean, what's the context of the illustration?
 
The rectangles are reactors. You run into problems if one of the outputs is much more frequent than the other; the molecules back up in the pipes and eventually the reactor freezes. I fixed the problem by making the one output pipe comically long
 
I should upload a couple images of games too ;) brb
 
It would still get backed up eventually, but not before I finish making 40 compounds and win the level
 
I was curious about the length
Nice
That's all I need to beat the current set of available levels on Rio
 
8:26 PM
You chose a non-optimal orientation for those pictures
 
Ya know, the OBs need a way to set sizes of uploads
@MichaelMrozek screencaps, not much of a choice is there? I could've transferred but that would've taken time etc
this was deadsimple easy uploading
Seriously? 40k for tog.com? I thought it was a cute name, but ...
 
8:43 PM
lol
 
I would be willing to pay like $400 for a domain name, if someone else had been holding it for years, but seriously, is there a reason to hold a domain name in the hopes of selling it? I should start a serious discussion with the guy and figure out if there's a reason they want 40k for it.
 
Yeah, nothing comes to mind. Maybe something gaming related?
 
I'm thinking those little disks that kids use to play games with, but I think those were pogs
I want it for something photography related
 
Yah, they were called pogs.
 
but my idea is so planning stage that it's not even close to needing a domain
 
8:47 PM
"Remember Alf? He's back! In pog form."
 
The tog is a measure of thermal resistance, commonly used in the textile industry, and often seen quoted on, for example, duvets and carpet underlay. The Shirley Institute in Manchester, England developed the tog as an easy-to-follow alternative to the SI unit of m2K/W. Launched in the 1940s, the Shirley Togmeter is the standard apparatus for rating thermal resistance of textiles, commonly known as the Tog Test. The name comes from the informal word "togs" for clothing which itself was probably derived from the word toga, a Roman garment. The basic unit of insulation coefficient is the ...
 
Interesting. May be why he's sitting on it then...
 
Yeah, that last one looks very corporate.
 
That last one looks like the reason for the 40k tag
 
8:51 PM
nods
I doubt that it's theoldergamers.com lol
 
Well shit
lol
 
Yah, I think you're SoL on trying to lower the price any time soon.
 
lol, this is what I get for not doing anything more than looking at the domain and sending an email
I really need to design the app first and then worry about branding it probably :p
 
I figured it might give me some motivation tho, ya know?
 
8:54 PM
@drachenstern Not necessarily. You don't want to go too far w/ a certain name w/o doing some brand/tradename research.
@drachenstern Fair enough.
 
Where do you suppose submarines carry the markings of their home country?
 
@drachenstern On a flag that is only flown when necessary?
Otherwise, I'd expect it to be on the conning tower.
 
I suppose
Ok, I got on my laptop a couple hours ago to work on some code for the office ... guess I should do that now ;)
 
Well I guess this is one of the safest days this year to fly in a plane
 
9:08 PM
I thought you were only lazy on your mobile. ;)
@drachenstern Oh?
 
@GeorgeMarian several accidents in the past few days, the Southwest fuselage hole, the Delta bird strike ...
Pilots are going to be being extra cautious
 
@GeorgeMarian nah, I'm particularly lazy on my mobile
 
I'm always lazy tho, I've found it makes a better programmer. I mean, I still gotta get stuff done, but being lazy causes me to write better code, cos I focus on what I actually have to get done instead of bullshitting my way through with lots and lots of code.
trying to find something to watch on tv and nothing good on
 
9:10 PM
@drachenstern Agreed.
Crap on TV = go to the DVR.
 
meh, we gave up our DVR when we moved since we had had DirecTV but the new apartment is a northfacing one, and we haven't bought a googletv or something similar yet.
 
@MichaelMrozek If you actually grabbed a lock on the DROP & OUT section you wouldn't have to do that and you'd save a shitton of cycles.
Are two symbols worth that much?
@drachenstern Three letter .com domain, man.
 
@badpssockpuppet Yeah, I know.
 
It really sucks though
Those who were around then did all the landgrabbing
 
But like I said, I hadn't done any sidereal research. If I had, I would've likely come across that toghq link
 
9:14 PM
We're left with the crumbs
 
@badpssockpuppet I should've. Things were expensive tho so ...
@badpssockpuppet oh, if I were to get off my duff and write the code and build the platform and then go get VC funding, I could get it. But that's anathema to what I want to do ;)
 
I wish domains were rented, not bought
so if you don't use a domain you just let it go
 
@badpssockpuppet they are, but the renewal process is too easy.
 
and somebody else can get it
 
What needs to happen is there needs to be a "I have a vested interest in this site and I continue to innovate against it" metric. So that when there's not one then someone like us can swoop in and grab it at the registrar with a "I plan to develop this site and innovate against it"
 
9:17 PM
@drachenstern So you have to pay $40k for the privilege of renting the domain for those few dollars a year?
Big effin' ripoff
 
@badpssockpuppet No, I have to pay $40,000 to convince them to let me be the renter instead of them.
 
@drachenstern Yeah, then if you succeed you get to pay the few dollars per year
 
More like asking someone to let me have their PO box number specifically
@badpssockpuppet exactly :\
But if such a situation existed, there couldn't be a "oh look, facebook accidentally let their domain renewal lapse, I'm gonna get it" because the metric reinforces "active use of the domain name"
Something about using the backend style of archive.com to see if they're actively maintaining their site?
idk, I'm not ICANN so I can be an armchair businessman
I am however, watching PBS and a discussion of the tsunami ... holy effing shite
30 foot high seawalls and regular drills on what to do to get away from the tsunami ...
 
@drachenstern The fact that they diligently drill for such a situation impressed me.
 
Yeah
 
9:34 PM
@drachenstern ...you can get away from a tsunami?
how, by taking a real long breath and swimming under it? :P
 
@badpssockpuppet I think you may be vastly overestimating my spacechem skills; I don't even know what that meant
 
@MichaelMrozek I assume the problem is, the red and blue waldos output on the same spot faster than the other reactor can input; eventually the "buffer" fills and the output operation takes more than a cycle, which causes a collision in a reactor
the solution is, you put one sync on the red (or blue) waldo after its output and a sync on the blue (on red) output before its drop
effectively synchronizing the outputting
in a way you acquire a lock on the output area.
 
Ah. No, the problem is it outputs on omega three times more often than on psi, and eventually the omega pipe fills and the whole reactor blocks waiting for a space
 
 
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11:56 PM
What are you expected to answer to this? stackoverflow.com/questions/5526667/…
 
What two of the answers already said, namely: "by default, apache does not run .js files through mod_php or any other php engine"
 
"Time to get a clue." ;)
 

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