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8:03 PM
Man today is crazy over here!
Has everyone voted in the Gaming elections?
And by "voted" I of course mean "voted for @badp"
@badp for gaming mod!!!!!
 
@TheRenamedException ...It's just frustrating here. :P
 
@Shog9 My friend has a Windows CE netbook by some no name brand.
 
@TimStone I hear that, trying to keep a cool head over here
 
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@badp Why didn't that quote the whole thing? >_>
> Winners are Grace Note, Juan Manuel, and badp.
 
8:07 PM
@badp WHAT?
WHEN?
 
@TimStone I know.
 
I thought there was 2 hours left!
@badp CONGRATS!!!!
 
grats @badp!
 
@TheRenamedException Why thank you, now when are you nominating for whatever?
 
Ban/Bin/Box @RebeccaChernoff. DO IT
 
8:09 PM
@MichaelMrozek Ban is so Web 1.0
 
@badp Me? Nominate for something? LOL, I don't think anyone would vote for me :-)
Maybe next year
 
@TimStone Time zones, man, time zones.
 
@MichaelMrozek I've already been banned once today! No moar plzkthx! (;
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@RebeccaChernoff Really? Spectacular
 
@RebeccaChernoff You were upsetting Zypher again? :-)
 
8:10 PM
@PopularDemand Heh :P
@badp Burninate!
 
Congratulations, @badp. And happy hunting.
Why isn't Jon Skeet a Microsoft MVP?
 
Because he works for Google?
 
Is there a C# MVP position in the first place?
 
@GeoffreyChetwood His profile says he was from '03 to '10. That overlaps with his time at Google.
 
Excuses, excuses.
I have been banned for a year, and I come back with about 3k more rep and I am still on the second page. Yummy.
 
8:19 PM
@GeoffreyChetwood Congrats on 10k, then.
 
Thank you sir.
TERRIBLE POWARZ
 
@GeoffreyChetwood Well... it's less exciting now that you get stuff at 15k and 20k, too.
 
Yeah? What kind of junk do you get there? 10k was always pretty useless anyway
 
@GeoffreyChetwood Protecting posts, and being a Trusted User.
 
Oh boy.
'Trusted user', that is me.
 
8:23 PM
Heh
 
I imagine Jeff squinting with one eye and cradling his chin in one hand whenever he has to look at one of us <20k users.
 
I imagine him snickering behind his definition of 'trust'.
 
@Pops: you don't remember the story about Skeet and the MVP award?
 
Ew, it is a shoggie.
 
Yes. It is
oh, hello GeoChet. Good to see you back.
 
8:28 PM
Who let you out?
GEOCHET
 
@Shog9 I do not.
 
I see the chat software is still craptacular...
 
It's stopped making noises at me. That's a huge improvement, and i won't have you diminishing it
 
This is true. I figured it was just broked.
 
8:31 PM
@Shog9 Huh. Thanks for settling that.
 
So I was right. Because he works at google.
Accept my answer, low life.
 
There was a fair bit of speculation about it at the time, but it doesn't seem to have had much of a long-term effect. Obviously, Google hasn't stopped him from publishing stuff on MS tech
@GeoffreyChetwood yuuup
 
@GeoffreyChetwood Uh... I starred it. That'll have to do, as there's no checkmark.
 
It is only a matter of time my fair shoggie.
 
@GeoffreyChetwood Feel free to avoid using it :-p
 
8:34 PM
Godzilla has nothing on me.
 
Or, use XMPP instead
 
eh, it's been over a year, and I have a shiny new revised copy of his book on my table... So if they've some master plan, they're moving slowly.
 
59
Q: Offer an XMPP method for chat

Greg HewgillThis is a request for the SO chat system to have an XMPP interface. The whole idea of a chat system is to bring people together, and a key way of doing that is to allow people to access the system using more than one method. Right now there's a web interface, but it's limited to being a web inte...

 
@The Renamed: If I was going to use anything, it would be IRC, which is the superior protocol as to what this was stolen from. But I digress...
 
What about this? msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/archive/2009/10/30/mvp-again.aspx says he got to stay an MVP after all
 
8:35 PM
25
Q: IRC access for the chat?

jrkWill there be any way of accessing the chat over IRC? As beautiful ajax interfaces are ... IRC is still #1 for chats.

 
Spammer!
Haters gonna hate
 
@Pekka And both of those blog posts were from Oct 2009, which means they don't account for this year.
 
@Pekka It's a traaaaaap!
 
Google just wants to steal Windows from M$!!!
I am disappointed. No panty wetting posts from my fan club requesting that my ban be renewed yet? :( No love.
Am I GEOCHET yet?
Nope. Awesome.
 
@GeoffreyChetwood log out and log back in to meta and chat
(I have experience with such things...)
 
8:40 PM
Um no.
 
also, sacrifice a chicken.
and sprinkle the blood around your computer.
 
@GeoffreyChetwood Then remain Geoffrey Chetwood, your choice :-)
 
That is ridiculous. It is ridiculous that I have twice left the room to try to refresh it. I won't go through rituals just for such an obvious change.
 
But a logout/login will refresh
 
Software fail.
 
8:41 PM
@GeoffreyChetwood I'm seeing it on MSO proper.
 
Same here. It's just chat you need to log out of
 
@poular: I know. Hence the absurdity.
 
It's important that changes take effect immediately in the fast-paced world of MSO. In the leisurely, non-real-time chat environment, caching is acceptable.
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I rmember people reporting this issue a year ago when this thing first came online.
/nick GEOCHET
See... duplicating protocols FTW
 
3 mins ago, by The Renamed Exception
@GeoffreyChetwood log out and log back in to meta and chat
 
8:43 PM
Spammer!
 
Just trying to be helpful
 
That is not helpful.
Helpful would be fixing the issue.
 
In the amount of time you've whined about chat being broken you could have logged off and off three or four times already :-)
@GeoffreyChetwood that is the fix
 
@The Renamed: Welcome to the internet.
That is not a fix. That is a workaround.
Much the same way getting out of my car and getting back in to change the radio station would not be a fix.
 
You can only change your radio station every 30 days? Buy a better radio.
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8:46 PM
sigh Justifications for broken code make me sad.
This is all your fault shoggie
 
Damn you and your clever names
 
3 mins ago, by Geoffrey Chetwood
Spammer!
 
Chat syncs with your parent profile hourly. Wait a max of an hour or log out/in to force a sync. That's the way it works. (:
 
*doesn't work.
 
8:48 PM
@RebeccaChernoff You can sync it manually, too.
 
@TheRenamedException Hardly.
 
Which you probably knew.
 
Closing the window != logging out. Leaving the room != logging out. And that is besides the point @mmyers! (;
 
@PopularDemand I know, I was being sarcastic :-)
 
oh and closing the window != leaving the room
 
8:49 PM
How intuitive
 
It's good because if you close a tab accidentally everybody else doesn't need to see your avatar fly out and then in again.
If you close the last chat tab and not rejoin for 10 minutes then you leave the room.
 
...
That seems like a terrible justification for a 'feature'.
 
It may be 'terrible' but it's what it is.
Merely attaching labels to it won't change it
 
How often do you 'accidentally' close a tab in your browser?
 
Often enough that I know the key combination.
 
8:51 PM
It happens a lot. Mostly when I shut my eyes and click randomly.
 
You have a key combination to accidentally close your tab?
@mmyers I am thinking this may be the issue
 
Yes, it's pressing ctrl-W many times for closing a lot of other tabs
and Ctrl-Shift-T for bringing it back.
 
You indiscriminately hammer on ctrl-w?
This is fascinating. Tell me more.
What other key combinations are being flickered through without attention?
Whoops, sorry, I hit Windows+L by accident.
 
@GeoffreyChetwood You buy an n-key rollover keyboard, you find excuses to use it, dammit.
 
I see my point didn't get through. Oh, whatever, brb dinner.
 
8:54 PM
He accidentally hit the dinner shortcut key
I love when people tell you their point isn't getting through as if that is not a large failing on their part to adequately present their point
 
@GeoffreyChetwood his second point didn't make it through either apparently ;-)
I think I see a trend here
 
@TheRenamedException About the affliction of accidental dinners?
I agree it is a huge problem for mankind
UH OH. Accidental Godzilla.
Mah bad Japan.
HA. Talkative badge.
Soooooooo many badges over my ban time. Ridiculous.
 
What did it say?
 
@GeoffreyChetwood WTF?
 
@TheRenamedException Don't ask me, ask the badge, man.
 
9:04 PM
Congratulations, @TheRenamedException, you've just been initiated into the prestigious Rich B Insult of the Day Club.
 
\o/
I feel so damn special now
 
@mmyers Who was insulted and by who?
 
You join a long and illustrious list of people.
 
@Feeds! Hey! Why don't you return my calls?
 
@PopularDemand Feed is popular, everyone always @ing it. Can't be bothered with meer mortals like us (usually)
 
9:09 PM
sorry i get jealous when feeds talk to people so i don't let her
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@TheRenamedException Bit slow, but have a star
 
@tryaria Why thank you. I will add that to my collection
 
@tryaria Damnit, don't encourage him! The last thing he needs is more stars. Give me your stars instead!
 
@TheRenamedException You're welcome. I don't think I've given one before, so treasure it.
@JoshsSocks Are you for real? Am I being harassed by a JoshBot?
 
9:13 PM
Pay no attention to him
 
Or the man behind the curtain?
 
I AM THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
 
Ah - so I shall ignore you. Twice?
 
night :)
 
@mmyers not that illustrious. Some of them are just pundits.
 
9:15 PM
@Nyuszika7H Good early afternoon
 
I just translated this career description
design and develop big and complex informatic systems in areas a diverse as real time administration, geographic information, video games, industrial control and information systems in general

perform with success as a software creator, independent consultor, project leader and system CEO
can somebody tell me if this is system engeneer
 
@Shog9 YOU'RE A PUNDIT!
 
23 hours ago, by Josh's Socks
@Pekka I have no master! @TheRenamedException is my sockpuppet!!!
 
(exact translation of spanish)
 
@Trufa O_o
 
9:17 PM
or a degree in CS
 
Sounds like 10 different people
:)
 
@Pekka it is thier marekting strategy
hehe
 
22 hours ago, by Pekka
@JoshsSocks prove it. No offense, but at the moment, you strike me as a piece of underwear with delusions of grandeur. How about freezing your master's account, or asking a THC related question on Cooking.SE?
 
I might just do that!
 
@JoshsSocks You will do nothing of the sort!
 
9:18 PM
@JoshsSocks please do!
 
@JoshsSocks You exist on Meta and NOWHERE ELSE
 
Cooking has a meta too
 
@Pekka design and develop big and complex informatic systems, what would you call that career?
 
Yeah, @TheRenamedException, cooking has a meta also!
 
@Pekka For metaphysical cooking?
 
9:19 PM
@Pekka, please don't encourage him... :-)
@tryaria HAHAHA
 
@Trufa not sure, but I'm not very experienced in big corporate career descriptions
Maybe ask on programmers.SE?
 
Ok, I would be willing to let him exist on programmers.SE ;-)
 
@Pekka yes but I want to ask a question about the career itself
so I wanted to know first what to call it
 
@tryaria yeah!
 
@Trufa I can't say what they are, but I can say that the description doesn't sound particularly professional. Is this a low level person?
 
9:20 PM
@The I think a complicated argument could be made that cooking is meta to life
 
@tryaria this is just a very quick translatin I did from the university's site
 
@Pekka We should ask this on philosophy.SE, does that exist yet? :-)
 
@Trufa Okay. Perhaps that's why
 
@JoshsSocks if you ask a question on cooking.SE e.g. about why butter strengthens the high in cannabis tea, and receive a good, deep answer, I'll respect you forever after
 
@JoshsSocks I'll steal his star and mine it for hydrogen, problem solved.
Also, scrollback, wtf.
 
9:21 PM
@Pekka Don't tempt him! :-)
 
@Pekka And I might be enticed to argue that life is meta to cooking.... perhaps I should be on cooking.se
 
@tryaria for sure, it actually sounds very well in spanish :)
 
@Trufa is it a position you are looking to apply for?
 
@Pekka no, I am trying to know how is what I will study called in english
the degree
 
@Trufa ah, I see
 
9:23 PM
in spanish it is called ingeniero de systemas
@Pekka which literally translates in system engineer
 
@Trufa is your gravatar supposed to be... empty?
 
@Pekka @Pekka Seriously man, I'm a chemist. Don't make me answer the damned question!
 
@Trufa yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if it translated literally, but then it might not... Maybe ask on programmers.SE (no guarantees though, I'm not entirely up to date about their on-topic rules)
 
@TheRenamedException it looks empty on SO but in all the rest it just suck, I though it would be funny but on second thoughs, well, it just sucks
 
@tryaria hahahahahahaha!
 
9:24 PM
@Trufa You can have a different Gravatar for each site if you have a different email address for each site
 
@Pekka yep, I think I'll ask in the chat first so they don't shout at me :)
 
@TheRenamedException ohh didn't know that but I will change it anyway :(
I'm in 2% battery and have no charger so any minute now!! :(
 
@Trufa suspend!
 
Someone wants to suspend Trufa?
 
9:28 PM
@TheRenamedException and miss all the fun?
 
No, no, you misunderstand
 
@mmyers must be all the sockpuppets
:)
 
@Trufa LOL
shhhhh!
;-)
@mmyers scroll up if you're itching to suspend someone... ;-)
 
SUSPEND? WHERE!
 
@TheRenamedException its rebbecca! ruuuuuun!!
 
9:29 PM
gulps and runs
 
@Trufa LOL. Rebecca has nothing against me :-)
My sockpuppet, maybe :-)
 
hurrrrrrrrrrry
 
Where'd he go? That's the problem with sockpuppets, no spine!
 
Yeesh, this is like the thermostat joke in Family Guy, only with mods and suspensions instead of men and temperatures.
@TheRenamedException You broke your arm/wrist/hand?
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9:31 PM
@TheRenamedException my sock puppet sucks!!! less that 3500 points in more that 3 months
 
@PopularDemand This sentence consists entirely of English words yet means nothing to me.
 
@TheRenamedException I will have to fire him and hire a new one!
If you should know of any good ones
(and the meta one sucks even harder!)
 
@mmyers Really? Perhaps if you inserted the comma...
 
calm before the storm?
 
@trufa Oooo - self charging battery! I want one
 
9:33 PM
@tryaria But what if the cat?
 
@mmyers I bet your colorless green dreams don't sleep furiously.
 
@mmyers Then it will
 
@tryaria believe me is more of a crazy ass sometimesselfchargingbutmostlyquickashelldischarging kind of battery
 
@PopularDemand I still have no idea what the "men and temperatures" thing means, and Google doesn't help. Is it something I don't want to know?
 
@Trufa Really, the problem is that the percent estimate is somewhat dependent on the current power usage on the computer. For example, if your processor is actively chugging away at something, the CD drive is spun up and your wi-fi is running, it should underestimate the percent remaining
 
9:37 PM
@mmyers FWIW I am in the dark here also
 
@mmyers Probably
 
@tryaria Also when your laptop spins down the CD drive it uses the kinetic energy to recharge the battery, just like a hybrid car.
 
Man.... I need to get around to making a gravitar. Either that, or petition for the unicorns and ponies back
@TheRenamedException Be nice
 
My current mission: find newbs who look like they might be helpful but only have 1 rep and find something of theirs worth upvoting: that way, perhaps one day they can acutally comment on stuff!!!!111!!!11!!!
 
@tryaria LOL :-)
 
9:39 PM
@tryaria hehe I know I just found it funny always :)
 
@mmyers No, it's a tame joke. YouTube maybe? I can't get to that now.
 
Neither can I, probably. Never mind then.
 
@KentFredric wait, people with 1 rep look like they might be helpful? This is news to me ;-)
 
The point is that you say "suspension" and all the mods suddenly perk up/come running.
 
who needs to be suspended?
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9:40 PM
HAHAHAHA
 
1
A: Is it possible to insert multiple rows at a time in an SQLite database?

fearless_foolIf I had privs, I would bump andy's reply: you CAN insert multiple rows in sqlite, you just need different syntax. To make it perfectly clear, the OPs mysql example: INSERT INTO 'tablename' ('column1', 'column2') VALUES ('data1', 'data2'), ('data3', 'data4'), ('data5', 'data6'), ('data7...

 
@PopularDemand So wait, you're saying that men come running at mention of the word temperature?
 
@TheRenamedException ^
 
@Zypher Timing is everything.
 
@tryaria They have a sixth sense for when someone touches the thermostats in their houses.
 
9:41 PM
realistically, having a comment to that effect would have been useful ... but he's only got 1 rep, so no comments :/
 
@KentFredric he has 26 rep now :-)
 
@PopularDemand Ah - that makes more sense.
 
yeah, 16 of which is my doing.
15*
 
@KentFredric and 10 more was mine. I was being sarcastic when I said before that people with 1 rep look like they could be helpful, but in seriousness, one good answer should net you enough rep to comment
 
I see far too many people waste moderator time because they can answer and not comment, so they use an answer as a comment section :(
 
9:42 PM
Like that one for example :-)
 
Someone on reddit was complaining that it took months to earn enough points to comment on SO.
 
Yeah. @wood linked to such an article somewhere I was reading in the last day.
 
@mmyers Months? I had it within a single day. I just posted an intelligent answer.
 
6
Q: Suggested edits - comment smuggling

Phenomenon: A low rep user uses suggested edit to add a comment to an answer\question. Is anyone else seeing this? Example: http://stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/1832

 
That's pretty much what I said to him, but I'm afraid I dipped a bit into snark.
 
@tryaria Some of us have to fight for every point.
 
@PopularDemand Some of us don't really care about rep
(Hence having none)
 
@PopularDemand I had to fight for every MSO rep up to 1k. The other 4+k I still don't understand, LOL
 
once you have enough questions/answers out there you get a bit of a gravy-train effect.
 
Yeah, I know. I was being somewhat sarcastic
I got a massive boost from
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Q: Is everyone in favor of the new "everyone can edit" idea? Is this really such a good idea?

The Renamed ExceptionAs originally requested here and described in Diff is Hard, Let's Go Shopping!: [The team is] planning to open the floodgates and allow everybody to submit content edits on posts Am I the only one who sees this undesirable? In fact, the more I think about it the more I think it has the pos...

Hey @jjnguy!
How goes?
 
9:51 PM
@TheRenamedException Hi
Pretty well. Ready for a nap. Just thouh I'd stop in and see what the convo was about.
 
@jjnguy You're too late for the return of GEOCHET.
 
You came in at the right time ;-) It's back to business as usual in here now
 
@PopularDemand Banned already?
Cute kitty!
 
@jjnguy Nah, he just got bored and wandered off.
 
@PopularDemand Ah, ha. Ok
I hope he doesn't get banned again...
 
9:55 PM
I'm back with a power source know! thank you whoever invented the electricity!
 
@TheRenamedException did he make it?
 
@TheRenamedException That's just cruel.
 
Okay - so I have a question for the crowd: For the past year I was dating this girl. It ended about a month ago, but we've kept on reasonable footing since we have to work in the same office (different groups, projects, etc, just proximal). She's dating again. Yesterday she asked me for help picking out a valentines gift for her new guy and got pissed when I politely declined. Was I out of line?
 
@jjnguy We're talking about GEOCHET -- I think it's fitting! :-)
 
9:57 PM
@tryaria go to relationships.se
jeje
 
@TheRenamedException There's a scary icon.
 
@tryaria I think it's inappropriate for her to ask you to help her pick out a gift for her new boyfriend!
 
@TheRenamedException Oh, it's fitting. But still sad.
 
@tryaria I think she wants back
 
@tryaria Ha, you did the right thing.
 
9:58 PM
@TheRenamedException Yeah, that's a little weird.
 
muses over the idea of requiring moderation for all links posted by <50rep users
external* ^
ie: lots of the spammers just repaste the same link all over the place.
 
@Trufa Is there such a thing?
 
@Trufa I think this might be true
 
@KentFredric Seems like a good reason to do it
 
@tryaria hehe i don't think so!
 

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