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Tim Stone

12:02 AM

Oh, damn...

I apparently took far too long to write that answer.

drachenstern

What answer? To @MMeyers?

Tim Stone

@MarcGravell already committed to doing something :p

drachenstern

lol, I don't see why. The only time it seems to bite me is if I'm on my mobile and forget about marcog ;)

Tim Stone

I generally agree with Aarobat's idea, but it's also flawed in the sense that people with common names would be difficult to reply to.

Though I guess an explicit reply would solve that problem, in that case.

drachenstern

Yep. It'll also take more serverside work. I think that people should just use the damned autocomplete

It's there for a reason, and it works :p

Tim Stone

12:08 AM

People with short names ruin things for everyone! looks at self ...Dammit.

drachenstern

Note my excessive reliance on Cole

Granted the only ones that appear to be involved in collisions with that name would be the likes of Cole[FamilyName], Cole[Slaw], Cole[Trickle], Cole[tte], Cole[ne] ... guess which names I've heard more times than I can count (or care to)

Tim Stone

Heh :P

Oh, whoops.

Was wondering why F# questions were being highlighted..

Forgot I had added that tag to check on something while commenting on a meta question, heh.

And, now it's food time.

drachenstern

12:34 AM

don't you love classy months later downvotes with no explanation? Especially on questions where the owner just posted a solution. :D

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eh, downvotes suck but I kinda start to ignore them after a while

drachenstern

I thought you were working sir

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right now I'm loving code I thought I disabled somehow still existing / being live in production...

@drachenstern yes. I'm supposed to be :-)

I am working, actually. this place got easy to follow suddenly ;-)

(that is to say, it's very quiet in here!)

drachenstern

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException it happens. I think it happens most when we're all working ;)

ok, I know I got an email on a particular feature. I know that it was updated. I can see the update on my screen. But my inbox doesn't know anything about this feature :(

oh cos it was in the bugtracker :S

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LOL

Tim Stone

12:41 AM

That's a silly place for it to be.

drachenstern

I know right!

Which just reminds me painfully of a UI concern I really need to fix in the near future :(

and if I put it in as a bug in the bugtracker my close-happy boss will close it and go "not an issue, don't worry about it" when it breaks usability flow from the other pages of similar design in my site

I'm very touchy on what I consider "acceptable" but I understand his need to ship software more often.

not a big deal if it weren't a fifteen minute code swap

with a five minute test

Tim Stone

I can't believe that I got distracted from running this code like two and a half hours ago.

/blames all y'alls

drachenstern

I can't believe I'm still here ... if I hadn't overslept my wife would be pacing

Tim Stone

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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ok this is going to drive me crazy. We had a very old bug in our system, #244, which was actually a flash bug, and we built a workaround. Our workaround was buggy, and so when Flash fixed their bug we removed our workaround. Our bug is now back and I can't for the life of me find where we removed the workaround!

I'm sure we did though

I even rememberer taking to SO people about it, LOL

Tim Stone

12:48 AM

To search!

Oct 1 '10 at 0:16, by The Unhandled Exception

Of course it was a Flash issue

Was that when you had the issue? :P

Oh, old.

I guess not, never mind me.

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Q: Is there a workaround to the Flash bug where selection doesn't stop?

Is there any workaround to the issue with Adobe Flash where a Flash Movie does not receive a mouse up event if the mouse is dragged outside of the movie? EDIT: This issue seems to affect Firefox only See: http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-234 Basically the issue is, I have a Flash movie wh...

> George Profenza's "dirty hack" had been mostly working for me for months... but as of 8/24/10, I now see that Adobe has marked this issue as resolved, finally!

Tim Stone

Ah ha :)

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Great, that gives me a place to start looking :-)

Tim Stone

And yeah, I remember that bug..

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it was awful, and as CTo of course it was my fault, LOL

Tim Stone

12:50 AM

Well, not in the context of dealing with it directly, but playing Flash games and what not. :P

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@Tim, our flash editor is a textarea, nothing more. so it was awful on Mac using our app :-(

I.E. a TextArea positioned at (0,0) and the width/height of the stage...

Dan Grossman

:burp:

Tim Stone

Ah...heh.

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(I'm a JavaScript guy, not a Flash guy, so I do as much as possible in JS and use Flash only for the font display :-)

Dan Grossman

<~ working on more fun spy tools

Tim Stone

12:54 AM

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Flash... grumbles

drachenstern

@Dan will u link me the geoip png?

Dan Grossman

I wonder how safe it is to inject jQuery with noConflict() into an arbitrary webpage that might have other JS libraries (or jQuery as well) loaded

drachenstern

Seeing as how noconflict is supposed to have no negative connotations...

Dan Grossman

:searches "jquery noconflict conflict":

drachenstern

Thanks for the link. I show as 166.137.15.39 which it doesn't resolve, need to resolve that on a pc

And now 98.80.38.129

Dan Grossman

1:10 AM

166.137.15.39 = cingular wireless

Tim Stone

> 127 right, 1 wrong, 0 ignored, 0 exceptions

Moshe

@Dan. Who are you spying on?

Tim Stone

Hooray! \o/ Done.

Dan Grossman

@Moshe everyone, always

@Moshe I'm building a heartbeat-based real-time stats panel to add to w3counter.com ... needs more features I can charge for

I'd like to inject jQuery into the webpages for the heartbeat stuff (event handlers to see if people are scrolling, typing... and periodically ping my server), I just don't know how safe that is

drachenstern

1:38 AM

It should be safe, the question is will it be too much load on a person's page on their computer?

You never know if you're going into a hexacore with 24GB of RAM or a Pentium3 with 256MB RAM on IE

@TimStone Yatta! that is

Tim Stone

Aye

drachenstern

blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/04/… <-- clickit NAO do not hesitate do not wait you will be happy NOW

Tim Stone

Without clicking I already know that I saw that :P

drachenstern

lol, isn't that AWESOME and AWE INSPIRING and just plain WOW?

Tim Stone

It is pretty cool

Yi Jiang

1:50 AM

Why won't chat stop loading?

Grrrrrrr....

drachenstern

Because you need to press ctrl+f5 (if that framework will let you)

Yi Jiang

Is it funny that I can actually talk even with that giant thingadongdong blocking the view?

drachenstern

A bit

Tim Stone

Hm, I had that happen the other day when I had something wrong with a userscript, but I don't think that it actually loaded chat in that case.

Yi Jiang

Hang on, I'll try clearing cache with window.platform.clearPrivateData()

Didn't work :( Hmmm...

Tim Stone

1:56 AM

I guess it's loaded correctly...so uh...just kill the overlay? Wonder what's up though..

drachenstern

Reckon there's any benefit to highlighting my own comment/answers on any page by highlighting with a dotted border? Sometimes I can't seem to find my own responses on a page.

Tim Stone

@YiJiang Hm, loads OK in Firefox for me, although I did see those event errors just now that you mentioned before.

Yi Jiang

After restarting Prism and clearing cache twice, disabling GM, chat now works, albeit without all the modifications I made to it

I need to try again - this is very weird

Working fine again. Grrrr... grrr...

Why would this happen anyway?

@TimStone It works in Firefox proper, which is how I'm able to upload that image

Tim Stone

Ah, weird...

Yi Jiang

The messages though were sent from the never-loaded Prism window

Chat's autofocus means that I can still talk with that huge thingadongdong blocking my view

Dan Grossman

2:10 AM

About 255 results for 'thingadongdong' (0.23 seconds)

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman THE META POST IS AT THE TOP AGAIN!!! SANITY HAS RETURNED TO THIS WORLD!!!

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Anyone know if there's a way to jump right to a specific date in Trac's SVN browser?

Oh nevermind, I can do it using the Timeline

OK. This is driving me crazy. I know I rolled this code back but SVN disagrees with me

Tim Stone

I may have to side with SVN on this one.. :P

Rebecca Chernoff

DO NOT QUESTION SVN

Tim Stone

Erm, 'ello @RebeccaChernoff

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2:23 AM

Yeah I don't normally question SVN!

Yi Jiang

@RebeccaChernoff My god, it's blue!!!!

Rebecca Chernoff

Erm, 'ello? (;

Tim Stone

Kind of an abrupt entrance :p

Rebecca Chernoff

q:

Yi Jiang

.user-140548 .moderator { color: black !important; }

Problem sort-of solved

Tim Stone

2:25 AM

@YiJiang is afraid of change.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone I'm not afraid of change - it's just that... that... it's... that... blue! My god! It's blue! Arrrghhhhh!!!!!!! runs out of room

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Oh. Wait. I think my memory is what's at fault here.

Tim Stone

Your RAM corrupted SVN?

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Let's see if chat history can help me...

@TimStone my brain cells corrupted my memories :-)

Tim Stone

;)

Yi Jiang

2:27 AM

IT'S BLUE!!!

Dan Grossman

Your future corrupted your present npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/01/04/132622672/…

Rebecca Chernoff

@YiJiang oy

Tim Stone

patpats @YiJiang It'll be OK.

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If I can use this chat log to help me find what happened to this code, I think that will convince my boss chat is a productive use of time

Yi Jiang

@RebeccaChernoff (takes a look) It's still blue!!! (runs out of room again)

Rebecca Chernoff

2:29 AM

blinks

Yi Jiang

The blueness of it!! It's... it's... it's MADNESS!!

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Impossible. Chat transcripts would suggest I wasn't even in here on 8/24

Dan Grossman

krypton.awio.com/apc.php

Tim Stone

I'd scream blasphemy, but it's also possible you hadn't become addicted yet.

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This might be true actually. How can I find my very first chat message?

Tim Stone

2:34 AM

Hmm

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Found it

in Gaming, Aug 28 '10 at 16:54, by Josh

Hey everyone... just checking out the new (to me) chat system for the first time. Looks pretty sweet! Now I'll really never get any work done, ha!

Tim Stone

And so it began...

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ROFLMAO

Tim Stone

The fact that you started with that conclusion....Oh boy. shakes head You're doomed man.

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Hey at least I know myself well ;-)

So it looks like that was after I edited my question to state that the bug was now fixed. Damnit, chat can't help me on this one!

drachenstern

2:41 AM

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException How true that was ... sadly

Yi Jiang

AAARRRGGGG!!!!!

drachenstern

@YiJiang you are having too much fun with this

What shape is the favorite room star?

I can't seem to get my browser to refresh shy of (I think) clearing cache

Either that or my work browser is out of date cachewise

anybody else on dba.SE?

Rebecca Chernoff

@YiJiang dude...

@drachenstern meta.stackoverflow.com/users/140548?tab=accounts

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff I read that as "Now I have all the power!"

Was that a legitimate addition to the beta or a mod addition?

Rebecca Chernoff

I suppose that's one interpretation. Though I can't parse your second message.

drachenstern

2:46 AM

Did you join it on A51 before it went into private beta?

Rebecca Chernoff

Ah, no. I snuck in. (;

drachenstern

Thought so

Your page looks like it has a few more avatars than "it should" ;)

So how's the second day been? You still getting aclimated or are you already into full-bore assignments?

Rebecca Chernoff

It took longer than I expected to go through and create accounts on all the sites and dismiss the welcome banners hehe.

More mouse clicking than one should be subjected to in a day! (;

Tim Stone

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I think this is my first message:

Oct 1 '10 at 8:48, by Tim

You might want to check out this answer: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/66268/someone-please-call-911-silver-badges-missing/66271#66271

@RebeccaChernoff Torture! ;)

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@TimStone WHat? A helpful first message? OMG WTF BBQ!

Moshe

2:52 AM

Haha, I got the nice answer badge on MSO.

Tim Stone

I know, what the hell was I thinking?!

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@Rebecca do you know what your first message was? :-)

Moshe

Anyone care to guess what the question was?

:-)

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@Moshe Nice

Rebecca Chernoff

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I don't think I want to know. (;

drachenstern

2:53 AM

@Moshe nice

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I bet it was "oy"

Moshe

@drachenstern - no... C'mon, a meta question.

recent

drachenstern

whoops, sorry, wrong re:

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I was gonna say...

drachenstern

bah, they were right next to each other :p

Moshe

...wait for it...

drachenstern

2:55 AM

there's that sound again ...

Tim Stone

We all know already, shh. :P

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@Moshe TELL US!!! THE PRESSURE

IT'S KILLING MEEE!!!!!1111

;-)

Moshe

waits for photoshop to crop the banner...

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waits for Moshe to post the question

Moshe

Dan Grossman

2:57 AM

:whines about how long it takes to generate this report:

Moshe

thinks the new meme here is italicized statuses

Oh, and...

TADA!

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status-the-meme-is-status-remember

Moshe

points up at the blurry screenshot

Yi Jiang

@Moshe I read that as italicized statues, for some reason

Dan Grossman

@Moshe congrats

Rebecca Chernoff

2:58 AM

> Is there a list of features? Something to use for a comparison to irc features for instance?

drachenstern

@Moshe you don't understand what /me is from IRC do you?

Moshe

@DanGrossman - Thank you. It's funny though.

@drachenstern - I do now, but I've never used IRC.

Dan Grossman

I write /me in IMs sometimes, people rarely understand

drachenstern

@DanGrossman the nerve!

Moshe

@drachenstern - did you see the banner though?

drachenstern

2:59 AM

@Moshe yeah, you're missing out on something there

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@DanGrossman Adium and iChat for Mac and Pidgin for Window/Linux will interpret that for you :-)

drachenstern

@Moshe indeed I did.

Yi Jiang

I think my first message in chat was in the stress testing room, for some reason

Rebecca Chernoff

Assuming that was my first message.

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff the one about IRC features? hahaha

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2:59 AM

@RebeccaChernoff Cool

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