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4:00 PM
What will Nick's title be?
 
@Pekka She's already got her browser homepage set to meta.stackoverflow.com/search?q=user:145982+[feature-request] (I assume)
 
@MichaelMrozek Isn't that required of all SOISVAs?
 
That would be depressing
 
@radp Yeah, but usually that's so they can status-deline my posts more rapidly -- @RebeccaChernoff will be focused on actually implementing them
 
22 mins ago, by Rebecca Chernoff
Ya know, just to clarify, my job title is not "chat.MSO's personal feature-request servant" (;
 
4:02 PM
toilet is pretty awesome, although I'd wish the colors would move a little more
 
That is awesome/creepy -- my favorite kind of awesome
 
Hang on, let me try making something better
 
@YiJiang take screenshots of !!rchern!, !rchern!! and rchern!!! (with spaces for alignment)
 
@radp Ah ha! Yes, that would work
 
badp@delta:~$ toilet :\) -F flip -f banner
   ##  #
  #   ###
 #     #
 #
 #     #
  #   ###
   ##  #
See? rchern-compatible mode built right in.
 
4:08 PM
Chat needs color-text support
2
 
@MichaelMrozek I believe that needs an MSO support request ;)
 
@drachenstern We really should celebrate the new devs with a flurry of patently ridiculous [feature-request]s
 
@MichaelMrozek I'm seriously thinking we should at least have a MSO "question" for their benefit ... maybe on Friday ;)
 
4:15 PM
zomg
 
:D toilet animation!
 
@radp I have an irssi script to do that on IRC; I'd forgotten about it until now
 
@YiJiang I like the background flavour.
 
@MichaelMrozek toilet has an --irc flag.
 
4:17 PM
@radp Yeah, I wasn't careful with my terminal background opacity.
 
Exciting.
 
Hola there @mootinator long time no see, did you have a good first?
 
Sure did.
 
Yay
Oh snap, I see --> "disable desktop notification" in my chat, so I wonder what happens when someone "at"s me ... anyone?
Bueller
 
Now to figure out if I'm supposed to have the day off.
@drachenstern ?
 
4:23 PM
@drachenstern buh.
 
waiting for the disappear
Still waiting ...
 
lawl
 
Bueller
 
@drachenstern Don't hold your breath.
 
@drachenstern @drachenstern @drachenstern ...
 
4:24 PM
damnit, oh well
I can always hope that now that @RebeccaChernoff is there she'll see to it that a bugfix sneaks in (ok, I can always dream right?)
 
morning
 
Morning
 
Wait, now I can't mock @RebeccaChernoff - backwards smileys, or I might get banned.
 
lol, good call
So my goal for today is to clone all of our working branches, compile them into distributable sites, put them on the demo server, then walk every page and make it do something.
And record all of it as a script for someone else to follow.
 
Good luck
 
4:31 PM
I'm free to trade up with anyone ...
 
I once filed in a SO CV. Then it got wiped for some reason and didn't bother doing that again.
</ot>
 
I'm not sure SOIS has totally thought this through:
 
@Moshe As @RebeccaChernoff might say,
 
@radp I filled mine out.. didn't realize till I was done and paid that there aren't many actual employers on there.
 
4:33 PM
@MichaelMrozek Maybe her job is chatting.
You know, getting people to chat in rooms that don't have as much chat activity.
 
@radp She is an expert in that from her time in the WA chatroom
 
@MichaelMrozek Indeed.
 
@radp 'Chief Chatting Evangelist' Hmm... not bad :D
 
@MichaelMrozek except she's been exceedingly quiet this morning
 
another unreasonable flag from the Hub of Reason.
 
4:34 PM
@TimStone I meant to mention earlier this might have been why she couldn't sleep last night ya know?
 
@radp :D
 
@radp I don't see any
 
@MichaelMrozek She's totally the topic of communication and she's gone and hidden from us ...
 
@YiJiang It was on chat.SE
@drachenstern She's watching, and making a list of everyone that's wronged her
 
@MichaelMrozek I know, but I don't see any flags on chat.SE
 
4:35 PM
@MichaelMrozek lmao
 
@MichaelMrozek You mean she waited till now?
 
I'm safe then... other than starring oy's, all I've done is compliment and encourage her.
 
What did she do in the last few days anyway.
Also the list doesn't worry me. I know I'm on it anyway. :P
 
@radp I'll be at the top, probably. Hmm...
 
grrr, how long till all of dec 2010 is up on the SEDE?
I wanna get a feel for how unsung I am since I had a few more 0-accepts
 
4:38 PM
@YiJiang Here's a sneak peek of what's awaiting us, from a few minutes ago.
 
@drachenstern They're not doing a December data dump, you'll have to wait for the January one. So, about a month :)
 
@MichaelMrozek that sound suspiciously like a joke ...
 
@MichaelMrozek Wait, I thought they meant they skipped December's dump with November's data
not January's dump with December's data.
 
@radp Oh, I think you're right; I read it wrong
> We won’t be producing a data dump for the month of December 2010, but you can definitely expect one just after the new year. We apologize for the delay.
"you can expect one just after the new year" sounds like good news for @drachenstern
 
@MichaelMrozek well they have Dec 7 data in the SEDE
@MichaelMrozek hey, are we talking about two different things? I don't want the download, I want SEDE
 
4:41 PM
@drachenstern Why do they even have that query? SEDE says when it was last updated on the homepage
@drachenstern They update SEDE using the data dump, or at least they used to
 
@MichaelMrozek ohhhh I didn't even notice that :(
@MichaelMrozek and the rumor is that they've automated one of the two ..
 
@MichaelMrozek Maybe for the hour and minute information.
 
I'm on page 224 of SO users, hooray.
 
Now if only I could actually use that in a real game. Hmmmm....
 
Apparently that gets you followed by @Scobleizer somehow.
 
4:44 PM
@mootinator I don't know how he matches SO accounts and Twitter accounts; I know he missed an awful lot from the Gaming site, including me.
 
@radp I have twitter.com/username as my "website".
 
bah. Is 1.4k enough to be a "top 500" SOer?
 
Not at all.
 
He really missed out on a ton of people.
 
I was at the bottom of that list, suggesting that he only managed to list 1 in 15 people.
 
4:48 PM
The 500th SO user has 16,064 reps.
The 500th SF user has 980 reps, by comparison.
 
@drachenstern, @jin - your turn
 
The 500th SU user has 960 reps.
 
@Moshe you do realize you don't need to announce it either in game or here, it'll tell us by push-notify right?
 
The 500th MSO user has 632 reps.
 
Hey I have 637reps!!!!
 
4:50 PM
@drachenstern - Yes, I do. I didn't realize that I'm being annoying. My bad. Sorry.
 
@drachenstern Yes, you're 499th.
 
@drachenstern Welcome to the top 500 club!!!
 
@Moshe it's alright
 
@marcog is 500th.
 
@radp :424884 woot
I should really go get more upvotes ;)
 
4:51 PM
I might be off by one btw :P
I'm looking at the 3rd user on 2nd column (= 10th) listed on the 14th user page of each site.
10 + 14×35 = 500, so that user is 500th right?
 
since it starts counting at 1, I do believe so
 
I'm just glad I'm a leftmost column user for at least one site :P
Not like that opens up a lot of career opportunities.
 
@radp When I'm looking to recruit a highly paid guild master, you'll be on the top of my list.
 
I'm still clinging to second on Unix; I'm getting near-ish to the first page on Meta
And if there's one thing that guarantees job offers, it's high rep on Meta
 
Jin
@MichaelMrozek hey Michael. I updated the Unix post btw.
 
4:57 PM
I'm on page 2 for MSO, which isn't too shabby either.
Still 500 more MSO reps than Joel, give or take.
 
@Jin I saw, and answered (again); I'm a fan
 
will one of you two link it?
 
9
Q: Design Ideas for Unix and Linux site Updated

JinHi all. I'm Jin, and I'll be working on the designs for the Stack Exchange sites as they graduate from the beta phase. Each site will have its own unique theme that will reflect its topic. However, all sites will share quite a bit of common elements so they feel like they're part of the Stack Exc...

 
Jin
@MichaelMrozek i wish i could include the bsd mascot, but seems the usage is pretty strict.
 
@radp mmyers is ahead of me and he just put a 100 rep bounty on a question. I just need him to do that ~20 more times
@Jin The opinion of including mascots at all was kind of mixed (e.g. against, against, for)
 
Jin
5:02 PM
@MichaelMrozek it was a tough call. but i feel without them the site would look really bland and spartan. but i do agree only showing a penguin was pretty os exclusive
Unix is one of those sites that's harder for me to design, since there aren't a lot of common visual identities with the theme.
 
We do strive to be difficult in as many ways as possible
 
Jin
the site i spent the most time designing was actually Gaming, also a lot of time tweaking it afterwards. just to make @radp happy...
 
@Jin Your passion is appreciated. I'm just sorry the evil pixelation plans didn't end well.
 
Gaming is one of my favorites
 
Jin
@radp I still owe you guys the hover state for Ask Question graphic. I haven't forgotten :)
maybe i'll make the mothership shoot lasers and drop bombs..
 
5:07 PM
lasers, definitely.
 
It should shoot random words in the ask question text area while you're writing your question and delete them
 
Jin
then a pixel art Rod Serling pops up and starts narrating. "In an alternate reality, your questions are never answered. But not in this reality, for this is the Twilight Zone. dum dum dum..."
sorry been watching the TZ marathon over the New Year..
 
Hello
 
Hi
I'm so frickin' frustrated.
 
Why?
 
5:17 PM
It's like you're making a movie, and you cast Chuck Norris.. you think, man that's great.. Chuck Norris is awesome at making movies. You offer him so much money, he doesn't even look at the script... Later on, he shows up for filming, to find out you expect him to be a Mime. Chuck Norris isn't a frickin' Mime.
That's my analogy for my current job.
 
Jin
@Fosco you're one expensive mime?
 
No :)... I'm a programmer w/ 13 years experience, in a job being forced to use a language I've never used and have no ownership or control of what I'm doing.
 
Jin
They should've hired Steven Seagal instead? :)
 
@Fosco That's an interesting analogy hehe.
 
@Fosco so you have the experience to say "I have no ownership or control of this code, so when it stinks of code smell and code rot, I can't be held responsible. If you want me to help avoid code smell and code rot, then give me room to have ownership and control."
What will be even better is if you can get the project lead at the very least to ack that in an email or thereabouts
 
5:27 PM
@drachenstern Why's that? (Sorry, didn't sleep until 7 and apparently just woke up, heh)
@RebeccaChernoff Get to work! ;)
Also, I added timeout to the built-in chat script and added a way to disable cross-room notifications last night >_>
 
@TimStone you should really stop doing that :p
 
@TimStone I am!
 
@drachenstern I know, I know..but see above!
@RebeccaChernoff How's it going so far? :)
 
Ah, you figured out a way to get the core toasts to age away?
 
Yep.
 
5:31 PM
Did you do what I suggested, and watch for them to get created?
Should I reload the userscripts?
 
Actually, turns out there's no write protection on window.webkitNotifications.createNotification...
 
Jin
@RebeccaChernoff welcome aboard btw! now i have to go easy on you on WwF...
 
I haven't pulled my changes yet, but they're in my repository.
 
@TimStone that seems like a big security loophole of some kind
That should probably get reported to the webkit team ...
I realize it's domain-specific, but still
 
I don't think anything too terrible will happen by anyone dropping in on your toasts, but. :P
 
5:33 PM
@Jin Nonsense. If anything it means stop going easy on me! (;
 
@Jin wait, you've been pulling punches?
 
So yeah, I just copied over the method assignment to another name, put in my dummy function that adds the timeout and delegates to that method, and it just works.
I also added in some stuff to determine if we're in the same room as the notification and added a checkbox to disable desktop notifications if we aren't (since the other room will take care of that if you have multiple tabs open).
 
But there aren't any open bugs with that particular location in them, so I suppose nobody else is interested in that particular behavior / has noticed it yet
@TimStone so you're going to push changes ... when?
 
Not that you're eager or anything there, eh @drachenstern?
 
@RebeccaChernoff I wants them to go awaysssssss
 
5:37 PM
@drachenstern Well, you can feel free to test to make sure it all works correctly :P
 
I fought hard for these three screens on my desk (mismatched as they may be) and I want the real estate ;)
Also note that I'm too lazy to actually write the code myself ;) ... I'm waiting till I get my wife a new notebook in mid-summer so I can reclaim mine before I feel I'll get back to writing code at home ... plus the need to finish "unpacking" our apartment
 
Also, 'ello there @PopularDemand!
 
Maybe a better analogy would be that you hire Linus Torvalds, and then force him to use LOGO to move the turtle.
 
Sucks that she felt the need to give away her laptop to a friend with no laptop but a need for one, because she knew she could just consume ownership of my laptop :S
 
I'm bored
 
5:45 PM
you gotta watch this then tyler
 
@drachenstern So, did you want to test for me? I feel like I might be losing notifications actually (not sure how that'd happen), which would be bad, but it's possible I'm not paying enough attention either, heh.
 
@TimStone sure
 
@Reno Hehehe, seen this before, love it.
 
However I'm going to the house in the next 15 for lunch, so if I'm not here when I get back, I'll probably not miss it (or something like that)
@TylerChacha wanna test for me?
 
@drachenstern Ah, well there's definitely something wrong, so let me figure out what first.
It was working alright before I went to sleep, meh.
 
5:48 PM
@TimStone remarkably enough, I have a tad bit of experience with the nature of such things
 
Also, had extremely similar conversations like this video at my old job.
 
Wait, there's four of those? thewebsiteisdown.com
 
i know it kills me everytime :D
 
When did that happen?
 
whoa thanks for the link
 
5:51 PM
@drachenstern What is with your new icon?
 
imma sleep now :)
night
 
@TylerChacha did you blow it up?
 
yesterday, by drachenstern
user image
 
wasnt that funny,..
 
5:56 PM
@TylerChacha twas to me
and I figured that was all that was important here ;)
 
@drachenstern Ah ha! Someone changed chat :P
 
Yes they did, but it still doesn't let them disappear :(
I thought you noticed it too or I would've noted it to you
Wow, whold'a thunk HENNA for 41?
 
So this should work, but be sure to click "enable desktop notification" under the star list if you haven't already done so.
(also you have to uninstall your existing copy of the userscript and such)
 
Whew.
 
do we have a /uninstall shortcut by chance?
@mootinator kev? ewww, I would stick with moot too :p (note my choice of pseudo vs real nom)
 
6:09 PM
Just so you know @drachenstern and @RebeccaChernoff I twitter followed both of you while I was on the toilet.
@drachenstern :P
 
@drachenstern I don't think there's any way to make that work.
 
@TimStone yeah I don't think so either
 
@mootinator I am so thrilled to know this...
 
@RebeccaChernoff well it is important stuff you know ;)
 
6:13 PM
shakes head
 
@RebeccaChernoff I aim to please.
 
Also, to not make a mess of the seat.
 
Why doesn't PA OB?
 
@drachenstern You could suggest it
 
6:17 PM
I can't take Gaming.SE seriously until PA OBs.
 
@MichaelMrozek until they start moving on some of the others, it just feels like a waste of time ;)
 
@drachenstern I think exactly one has been implemented; you could be the second :)
 
addendumed to another answer as a comment
 
6:37 PM
I got github working
Go see my embarrassingly bad Javascript in my repo:
 
I posted a bug two whole minutes ago and @RebeccaChernoff hasn't fixed it yet
 
@MichaelMrozek what a slacker ;)
@MichaelMrozek (not you)
 
Oh, I am too. I just can't be blamed for this
 
@MichaelMrozek For shame!
I saw that @balpha ;)
 
So, I know that y'all probably don't know this, and I want you to know that I'm here for you...so here's my wise tip of the day: Desktop computers do not like to be unplugged, accident or not.
 
6:48 PM
@TimStone yeah, stupid me
 
@TimStone I did the same exact thing, I just erased mine fast enough to avoid detection :)
 
one might want to scroll to the part with the bug before saying "I don't see it" :)
 
@balpha Heheh, honest mistake :)
@RebeccaChernoff That's revolutionary. I feel the need to run out into the streets and tell the masses.
 
It looks like you're trying to turn me off to save energy. How about I just monitor your power usage instead?
 
Though I question why you were in a position to accidentally unplug the desktop.
 
6:50 PM
Turning me off? A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of minesweeper.
 
Heh :P
 
I cleared out my office furniture to make room for the new stuff, it just hasn't come yet. So I'm sitting on the floor of my office hehe. Knocked the power cord out when trying to unplug a usb one.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oh wait, are you working from home then?
 
Now SOIS is going to have to spend extra money to buy a dedicated Rovio for @RebeccaChernoff's house
 
aye, and oy.
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6:53 PM
Ah, welcome to the cool kids club then ;)
 
I work from home. After 5pm, when I go home from my office. :(
 
That would also explain you asking about working from home before. Oh those dots, always needing connecting..
 
@RebeccaChernoff Just think -- soon you'll be able to clear those stars
 
@TimStone q:
 
btw, @RebeccaChernoff gets partially paid in chat stars, so the more you star her oys, the more money SOIS can spend on more important things, like MyFirstBacons
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6:55 PM
lmao
 
LOLOLOL
 
@balpha If we star her enough does she have to pay SOIS every month?
 
Did everyone see the disturbing animated gif of Jin and his first bacon? If not, let's bring it out again.
@MichaelMrozek It only seems fair.
 
@balpha this feels like a dangerous thing to say 'round these parts.
 
Are stars limited? I'm still not sure
 
6:56 PM
@MichaelMrozek I haven't read the precise contracts yet; it's pretty hard to find the correct combination for joel's safe with an armless rovio
 
@balpha Just ask @RebeccaChernoff, she has all the passwords.
 
@balpha oooooh, Rovio. ponders
 
@RebeccaChernoff Are you in the dev rooms yet? "Rovio!" for all of us
 
7:07 PM
Oh, I didn't know that Github automatically updated pull requests.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:08 PM
The last message was posted 1 hour ago. on a Monday people? What are we - working?
 
/blame rchern
 
@drachenstern That's the impression I'm trying to leave, at least.
 
testing @'s, someone wanna @ me? I don't need thirty of 'em tho :p
 
@drachenstern I suppose.
 
@drachenstern Thirty?
@drachenstern Why not?
 
8:13 PM
@mootinator because I'm using desktop notifications, and I'll turn 'em off if need be ;)
 
Wow, I seriously didn't realize new entries in the inbox had a background color
I was part way through writing a feature request for it, and I noticed a couple of the entries had the itemBoxNew style, and then I squinted at it and realized it's a faint yellow
 
@MichaelMrozek They do? Definitely didn't see that before.
 
@TimStone It's #FFFFE2, so it's pretty much white
I'm just going to greasemonkey it to a different color
 
Yeah, that seems a bit silly.
 
Your edumacation for the day:
In poetry, a spondee is a metrical foot consisting of two long syllables, as determined by syllable weight in classical meters, or two stressed syllables, as determined by stress in modern meters. This makes it unique in English verse as all other feet (excepting molossus, which has three stressed syllables, and dispondee, which has four stressed syllables) contain at least one unstressed syllable. The word comes from the Greek σπονδή, spondē, "libation". It is unrealistic to construct a whole, serious poem with spondees - consequently, spondees mainly occur as variants within an anap...
 
8:18 PM
Hahah, good job Eclipse.
Because it's super cool when you can't handle exceptions and just immediately crash.
 
@drachenstern Am I allowed to correct "you're" while leaving "edumacation"?
 
crap I knew there was something I wanted to change there
sorry, thanks @MichaelMyers for the reminder :p
 
It's way too late for me to have not eaten food.
 
@TimStone I find that if I go home during the day I can avoid that (yes, hint)
 
@drachenstern Wait, what? :P
 
8:29 PM
grrr, my coworker is making my life hard :| ... "why is this not reading my mind" I sais to him ...
@TimStone given the distance from your office to your home ... you should go home every day for lunch ;)
I do, and I live about 5000 times further from my house than you do
Course, that gives me a chance to walk home ;)
 
@drachenstern I just got mad at Javascript for not magically knowing I meant .itemBoxNew when I typed .itemBoxNext, so I sympathize
 
@MichaelMrozek you see! ;)
 
Yeah....I'm making popcorn shrimp now, because they only take 9 minutes in the oven. :P
 
@TimStone lmao, I had a bowl of soup and a sandwhich cos I had to goto the bank and the post office (which still took 30+ minutes for two minutes of transactions)
 
Oh, that's cool.
 
8:31 PM
It's nice to have everything in walking distance.
 
Apparently JSDT has found a way to actually crash the JVM.
 
@TimStone Sweet
 
@drachenstern That sounds pretty good too.
 
@TimStone I crash the JVM pretty constantly, but I cheat and use native functions
 
Well, that I can understand. I have no idea what the hell it's doing that's causing the JVM to crash here though, heh.
@MichaelPetrotta I'm afraid we can't talk to you anymore, after the nasty things you said. :(
 
8:48 PM
@TimStone lmao ... for those who can't be arsed to search MSO ... meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/73698/…
 
Shame on me for even bringing it up, but of all of the misreads involved there, I feel that was by far the worst, heh.
 
> -null, just to be contrarian.
 
Wait a minute, I'm mentioned in that question. I should probably read it
I'm pretty sure I just got accused of being in an upvote ring with @drachenstern
 
That you did.
 
The only solution is for everyone to show him how wrong he is by downvoting him
Now, my minions! Downvote him!
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8:55 PM
Well if you all didn't consider me the coolest guy ever, you absolutely must now, for what I'm about to post in the room ;)
> Wait, I'm a sockpuppet? I thought I was a ringleader! I'm not as cool as I think I am? That's just not fair! I demand this to be made right! Everyone should, from here on out, think I'm the coolest guy evar. Coolest! Guy! Evar! Now, follow me off this bridge. I mean it!
 
I was a little confused why Jeff changed the title to that, though. The question should have been about Moshe being obnoxious, which was already duly noted.
 
@MichaelMrozek The socks here and obey! (except Josh's Socks of course ;] )
 
Oh, now I finally get what people were talking about yesterday with the "tenth" downvote
 
This is an elite downvoting ring? gasp
 
@mootinator A high-profile reps cartel, even.
 
8:57 PM
I clicked the "Add another answer" button, and then reconsidered
 
Hey Tim, he's on to our not very rude considerations! We should watch ourselves! That we would use the third-place to mull repercussions, the devil!
> How can you talk about devious stuff you are doing on the same site you are doing it?
 
I suppose I deserve the blame for linking him to the transcript in the first place
 
I don't think he understands either the third-place or the concept of chat-rooms ...
@MichaelMrozek nah, it's rather prominently displayed on every page so if he couldn't find it I'ld have worried for him eventually (I plan on living a long time ;) )
 

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