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9:00 AM
@Benjol comments = the right to argue
that has to be earned
 
@JeffAtwood, yeh, I guess reducing that kind of noise is a small price to pay.
 
it is a bit more nuanced than that, but in reality IMO that is what it boils down to
 
I in that case I could just post the comment for them, then flag the 'answer' for mod.
@JeffAtwood, going back to Yi's page, have you ever seen it work?
 
never
I thought it was a joke at first
 
Weirdly weird.
 
9:08 AM
Ooh, a 15% off coupon for staples, what should I buy...
 
@Jeff. Well, in case you wondered, this is what it looks like
(for just one nominee - chosen randomly, of course)
 
@JeffAtwood should still be able to use the cached version...
 
cached version is OK
 
So when are we going to get rep for chat posts? Then I can really waste time at work.
 
how much money do you have on you
 
9:14 AM
@Kragen eh, isn't that what you're already doing? :)
 
$7.60
That is Australian money - its 7 pm over here
 
$7.60 in fake australian dollars. Hmm.
 
Just because the notes are plastic doesn't mean its fake!
 
what's the price of gold up to now...
not bad
 
Has anyone reported a bug regarding questions with bounties getting migrated, where you end up getting the bounty back?
I looked on meta but didn't see one
 
9:19 AM
^ Bank error in my favor? I'm not going to report that!
 
That's basically what I figured
 
I asked this on so:
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Q: Anyone plotting SO via code_swarm?

Tim PostIs anyone working on something to render individual questions, or SO as a whole with codeswarm? If so, can you post a link to your work that transforms SO questions into revisions that codeswarm can understand (i.e. svn?) It would be really, really cool to see SO played (as a whole) via codeswar...

Well over a year ago
It got migrated to meta. I was able to trigger a recalc on SO to get the rep back, but doing the same on met didn't take the 500 rep back.
 
Surely thats because the question didn't have a bounty on meta
 
it would not surprise me if that was a bug
 
9:22 AM
It seems like it is. The ideal thing would be to:
 
What happens if you put a 500 bounty on a question on SO, then it got migrated to meta where you only had 200 rep?
 
1 - Award the bounty on meta, if the person who got it has an account (and deduct it from SO)
2 - re-open the bounty if the 'winner' does not have an account on the target site
 
Either you would end up paying 500 bounty on a question that got moved (a bit rubbish), or you would have negative rep / low rep on Meta (also rubbish), or it works the way it currently does (much less rubbish)
 
@Kragen, the point is bounties are supposed to be a one way street
 
Yeah, but that can't always work, and its not like someone is going to be able to game the system by migrating questions around! :-)
 
9:25 AM
Yeah, but the person who got the bounty is going to be awfully mad if re-calced :)
And now I can't open a bounty on MSO :(
 
code_swarm looks awesome btw - just found vimeo.com/1093745
 
@Kragen Yeah, I thought it would be an interesting way to make a visualization of SO
 
@TimPost I'm kinda sorry for that, as I flagged to migrate that question :)
 
@badp you're right, at the time, meta did not exist (we were still using uservoice)
 
(It's ironic. At 3k+ you can vote to close. At 3k- you can flag to close.)
@TimPost yeah, I recall spending uservoice votes on SO as well
 
9:31 AM
"I'm most active when the chat regulars are in bed, dreaming of a world without end users and technical support." awesome
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Q: Chat activity for election nominees

Mark HendersonZoredache mentioned in their answer here (emphasis mine): If anyone happens to be reading this, and doesn't regularly go into the chat please understand that most of the current candidates are pretty active in chat already, and lots of questions and discussions have already been h...

 
Does the teacher's lounge count for activity?
 
I almost have enough reward points on my business check card for a free cruise to the bahamas
 
@DanGrossman I was just looking at Carnival's newest cruise ship
 
Posted by Jeff Atwood on January 23rd, 2011

After running a beta community moderator election on math.stackexchange, and launching 2011 community moderator elections on the trilogy sites, we are now rolling out community moderator elections to all the public Stack Exchange 2.0 sites.

When we selected Moderators Pro Tempore on the public beta sites, we tried to be quite clear that the eventual goal was always to have the community elect its own moderators.

That’s why I am in the process of identifying and organizing a team of provisional moderators from within each community (about three per site, starting about seven days into the public beta). This is a temporary, short-term appointment. Moderators Pro Tem focus and expedite the essential needs of each new site. By the end of Beta, the community will be better suited to hold their own elections.  …

 
Is it taboo to nominate yourself on two sites?
 
9:39 AM
@TimPost What if you win both?
 
I spend equal time on programmers SE and SO, I could be more productive if I was a mod on both (especially with helping to handle question migrations that are inappropriate)
 
@Jeff, thanks for referencing Yi's page!
 
wait a sec, weren't you a mod on webmasters as I recall? :)
 
@Jeff - yes
 
@JeffAtwood From his profile:
> Moderator On Pro Webmasters, 10k+ user on SO.
 
9:40 AM
I gotta update that
 
ah, b3ta
 
Only 6 clicks from that blog post so far. I thought you were more popular!
 
A few people nominated me on Webmasters and I accepted, then a week later I went through a life altering job change.
 
@TimPost I would avoid being a mod on multiple sites. If you are a mod on SO, believe me, you will NOT have time to mod elsewhere
there are like 100 flags on SO right now
 
@JeffAtwood Thanks :)
 
9:42 AM
the other day I did 100 flags just to see how long it took me. An hour and a half.
wait, more actually.
 
People flag things for strange reasons.
 
@DanGrossman I'm guessing all the die-hard readers have already been there :)
 
I plugged my USB keyboard into a USB->PS2 adapter, then into a PS2->USB adapter just to see who would notice (the whole mess is visible on my desk, attached to my laptop). Nobody noticed.
 
correction 102 flags on SO
 
 
9:44 AM
What is the incentive to become a moderator anyway?
 
@JeffAtwood Bet I can get that to 110 before you refresh! On your mark .. get set .. GO
 
I haven't really paid much attention to the process
 
but seriously, some people enjoy governance and helping their peers so much that they want to take it to the next level
same reason anyone runs for office anywhere, I'd say
 
:updates his user agent matching patterns, missed matching some newer Chrome:
They get paid, and I'm not talking about salary
There aren't SO lobbyists yet, right?
 
@DanGrossman sssshhhhhhh, nobody is supposed to know about that yet
 
9:47 AM
I guess it's like any other leadership type position, it just makes you better at dealing with people, which is kind of a helpful skill in life
 
@JeffAtwood What's the ratio of spam/offensive flags to moderator attention flags?
 
oh it's very low
 
ID matching: /(?<=#)\d+/
 
right now it is 23 spam/off 99 mod and 24 comment
 
@JeffAtwood It's also about wanting to help take care of the janitorial tasks on the site.
 
9:48 AM
22 unique visitors to the election page since the blog post
 
Or , more expressly wanting to give back at least what you get out of it.
 
'#1';   // true
'#12';  // true;
'#123'; // true;
'1'; // false;
'#'; // false;
 
continuing with #stackoverflow and stackexchange.com elections, and an *amazing* community contributed election page http://goo.gl/Wu27S
there, now you will have some hits
 
It's not even my page, I just have a fetish for watching traffic rolling in
45 visits now
 
@JeffAtwood I thought it may be useful to increase the number of spam/offensive flags per day for 10k users. Right now it gets used up in a single pass in the /tools/flagged page.
2
 
9:52 AM
heh, "recalculating splines" on that moderator stats page.
 
It is probably a network problem, but I've also got reports of it working after they switched to Firefox
 
@Mehrdad dangerous because those flags have a threshold and -100 penalty
 
This is hugely annoying, I can't do anything about it. @DanGrossman another solution would probably be to create a server-side script to load the page through cURL and feed that into the page instead
 
@JeffAtwood what happens when a mod flags another mod's message?
 
MOD WARS!
 
9:53 AM
Infinte recusion?
 
@YiJiang You can upload PHP code
 
@JeffAtwood Yeah. I figured it's not that useful as the majority of work is the mod attention flags.
 
MOD1 ----------------------------=====================================>>>>>>>>>>>> MOD2
MOD2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<=======================================------------------------ MOD1
 
I'm not sure what the jsonp stuff expects, something like <?php echo json_encode(file_get_contents('http://whatever-SE-api-url')); ?>
 
@DanGrossman Actually, SE API works reasonably well
The only part that fails is the initial YQL call to fetch the elections page
 
9:55 AM
Yeah, I mean I don't know how to emulate its response
I haven't actually read your javascript :x
 
@DanGrossman Just grabbing the raw HTML would be fine, the YQL result returns the HTML anyway
 
@YiJiang, hi. Your rep graph on meta went exponential :) And it looks like it's gonna stay that way too...
 
@Benjol Pekka gave me 2x500 bounties in 4 days
 
I have a very low tolerance for "no effort to learn and improve over time" these days
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Posted by Jeff Atwood on April 6th, 2009

Are you familiar with the Penalty Box?

The penalty box (sometimes called the sin bin, bad box, or bin) is the area in ice hockey, rugby football and some other sports where a player sits to serve the time of a given penalty, for an offense not severe enough to merit outright expulsion from the contest. Teams are generally not allowed to replace players who have been sent to the penalty box.

It’s not something we looked forward to, but as of tonight, we’re instituting a penalty box on Stack Overflow. …

 
9:59 AM
@DanGrossman Thanks
 
awarded his first bounty
 
Speaking of which, he who we don't name gets un-suspended soon
 
I am OK with this, for now
the real problems are no longer high rep malfunctioning users.. those are quite rare
it's the "no effort to learn and improve over time" users which are a huge ongoing problem
 
@JeffAtwood We had high rep malfunctioning users before? Really?
 
a few
that is what the penalty box was for, originally.. but now it's all about the help vampires
it's more like garlic and wooden stakes..
 
10:14 AM
(well, except Rich B)
 
there are varying scales of malfunction, the Rich B level is like the proverbial thousand year storm .. there were other smaller problems, really nothing serious
and, like I said, it's nothing compared to the help vampires
 
I think we have (relatively) high rep spammers now. Today's "SWEngineer" had ~400 rep
 
well, there is a guy on SO with almost 3k rep and 0 votes, I don't think it counts tho :)
 
@badp There's a guy on the first page with a single upvote and 60:1 down to up ratio :)
 
@Mehrdad yeah, but my query can't catch him :)
 
10:17 AM
I'm not saying who did it, but I have been offered money to 'plant' links on SO
 
Eek, average read/write latency on my Amazon RDS instance went up to whole numbers of seconds for a while. Basically blew itself up til that fixed itself. Must be a network glitch talking to EBS.
 
unrelated:
300
A: Help me remember a quote from Alan Kay

Alan KayI will try to remember what I said, but neither of the answers above is correct (every one of them was done in the 60s and 70s before the commercialization of PCs in the 80s. However, we could start all over and try to think of new inventions in computing since the 1980s. Best wishes, Alan Kay

 
@DanGrossman I think they do something similar to what my company does, which is measure average IOWAIT over time (aggregate across all cpu's)
 
wtf?
 
A lot of Rich B edits were helpful. I wish most "malfunctioning" users were like him!
 
10:21 AM
well, nothing was ever Rich B's fault.. I mean, just ask him
 
Rich B had the benefit of the doubt in my book until that whole 'amputee' thing on area51
 
Kev
"Help Vampire" ?
 
Gotta love the tags associated with Alan Kay!
 
Kev
oh I see :)
 
Right, switched over to the PHP script to fetch the elections page, the YQL dependency should be removed now
Can anybody who hasn't had it working before check it now?
 
yay, works for me now!
 
Kev
funny I am dealing with one just now...but nicely
 
10:24 AM
@YiJiang BTW, I built in a 60 second cache on that passthru.php file, so that it doesn't re-fetch from StackOverflow for every single user
 
@DanGrossman Yeah, good idea
 
@YiJiang if you're interested @RebeccaChernoff still has that todo.txt item to find or build a solution to the "schedule a chat with these 12 people" problem
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Q: 2011 Moderator Elections - Town Hall Chat

Rebecca ChernoffIn connection with the moderator elections, we will be holding a Town Hall Chat session with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary. I am working with the can...

this is something we likely want chat to be able to help with, so it's a function we probably want chat to have.. somehow
 
@JeffAtwood: doodle.com
no login required
 
@YiJiang Working for me now ( was broken in FF too previously )
 
@Benjol I think @RebeccaChernoff is gonna open a webapps Q with her research on existing tools for ultra-lightweight 1 time event scheduling
 
10:29 AM
Wow, no registration, no e-mail, time zone support... what else did you need?
 
@Jeff so, I go post my answer there, or on that meta question:
@DanGrossman, made in Switzerland :)
 
anyway, night all! and remember, rust never sleeps.
 
@DanGrossman maybe being able to have more than one choice!
 
@badp Heh that's my fault as the event creator
 
I know, I used Doodle in the past
it's nice!
 
10:30 AM
160 more people have used @YiJiang's election page since Jeff's blog post less than an hour ago
 
@Dan - twitter works better than the blog, apparently? :)
 
mostly from the blog actually
 
The twitter traffic should've died down after a while
I mean, the ones from that mention a few days ago
 
@YiJiang, jeff just mentioned it, right before you joined the room
 
continuing with #stackoverflow and stackexchange.com elections, and an *amazing* community contributed election page http://goo.gl/Wu27S
 
10:32 AM
Do you think it'll be good for me to pull in the complete showdown.js to render comment markdown?
Or should I (ahem) steal the chatroom markdownmini functions?
 
:dunno:
 
Sorry, dunno here too
To be honest, your page is pretty close to 'done', for me
 
maybe add an easter egg
 
@badp There's already one :)
 
Maybe add a separator below the profile/nomination, as you have above
 
10:37 AM
Look at the footer
 
@YiJiang then start working on a "proper" version
@YiJiang It don't do nothing!
 
@badp, oh yes it does :)
 
@badp Really? It should, did I break it? Lemme see...
 
@YiJiang, works for me
 
eh, yeah, it doesn't do anything before you load a site
 
10:41 AM
@YiJiang I can't think of anything you could do to improve that page. It's a very cool resource :)
 
Well, showdown.js is huge, but most of it is comments
Sigh... the code quality isn't very good - too many missing semicolons which will mess up the packer
/blame @balpha
 
I feel blamed for no good reason. @YiJiang must be around.
4
 
And that's only the first page of jslint complaints
 
so? blame attacklab, not me
I have a clean conscience
 
Shouldn't you guys have cleaned it up? Or has this file never been changed since you guys took over?
 
10:51 AM
hmm... in a quick scroll-through I haven't seen any line that's missing a semicolon
 
@balpha Line 64, var Attacklab = Attacklab || {}?
 
oh yeah, there's one :)
or two
 
> Problem at line 1001 character 36: Too many errors. (74% scanned).
>_>
 
well, if jslint says there are too many error, then it clearly can't work, right?
 
I mean, jslint is designed to hurt your feelings, but still - too many errors!? Gosh...
@balpha It's a code quality tool
That said, passing the code through, say, Dean Edward's packer, and it wouldn't work packed
 
10:55 AM
btw, the version in google code isn't identical to the so version; syncing them up is on my list
 
Mainly because of the missing semicolons
 
well, a) our compressor is fine with it, b) as bad as it is, the missing semicolons are legal, and c) I agree it would be nice to have, but I wouldn't make this big a deal out of it
 
Actually, I'm complaining mainly because Dean Edward's packer chokes on the semicolons
 
8 mins ago, by Yi Jiang
Shouldn't you guys have cleaned it up? Or has this file never been changed since you guys took over?
 
The last time I had to use the codes, I went in and inserted all the missing ones myself. Not too many, mainly because jslint spots them pretty well
Well, I do wonder why you guys didn't clean it up.
 
10:58 AM
They have a packer doing the cleaning up for them...
 
So what compressor do you guys use?
 
@YiJiang because it hasn't been causing a problem, and there are more important things than making jsLint happy?
@YiJiang the yahoo one, I think
 
@balpha Fair enough
 
this diet iced tea sucks
no flavor, like brown water
 
@DanGrossman It's easy to make your own, just toss tea bags into the coffee machine
 
Jin
11:09 AM
morning
 
@Jin 'orning
 
11:32 AM
D: i missed jeff by a couple of minutes
 
yeah, about 60
hehe, look @YiJiang:
	// UNFINISHED
	// The assignment in the while loop makes jslint cranky.
	// I'll change it to a better loop later.
	position.getTop = function(elem, isInner){
		var result = elem.offsetTop;
		if (!isInner) {
			while (elem = elem.offsetParent) {
				result += elem.offsetTop;
			}
		}
		return result;
	};
 
@balpha Hahaha
 
looks like attacklab tried it themselves...
 
:sad:
Just finished watching all 26 episodes of Miribito. I miss it already. I want more.
 
12:13 PM
in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 11 mins ago, by Feeds
Posted by Joel Spolsky on January 24th, 2011

2010 was an absolutely amazing year here at Stack Overflow. We grew from 7 million visitors to over 16 million, putting us in Quantcast’s top 400. We raised $6 million in venture capital, and we went from three full time employees to 27. We built a 7500 square foot office in New York, and we launched a ton of new features and sites, like Stack Exchange, a network of 33 Q&A sites on diverse topics from cooking to computer science. Stack Exchange grew 51% in December alone. Wow.

The expert Q&A model that Stack Overflow pioneered is really working. The statistic I’m proudest of is the percentage of questions that get a good answer, over 80% (and many of the new Stack Exchange sites have 100% answer rates!) …

> Overall 2010 has been a real breakout year for Stack Overflow, which is now the largest programmer website in the world (source: me) and the best, fastest-growing Q&A website in the world (source: also me). We’ve got an incredible team firing on all cylinders, so we’re really looking forward to 2011.
finally some objective citations for Wikipedia!
 
> like the important “wheel of blame” feature,
 
@YiJiang, just one thing - your reticulating text stills says 'loading using YQL'. (very minor, I know...)
Also, I think the random sort should bring out Gortok first more often ;)
 
@Benjol I thought I updated that already
 
Hang on, CtrlF5, maybe it's me
looks like it's not me
 
No, apparently not. Hang on, lemme fix it
 
12:22 PM
someone else try?
 
No, it's my fault.
 
also, some of your activity links are a bit broken...
 
@Benjol Yeah, some of them - I need to filter out the award badge links
 
@YiJiang, or you just put the profile link in there instead
 
The no title activities probably come from elections pages
 
12:26 PM
@YiJiang, yes, and they're difficiult to link to, I believe
 
Which is annoying. I think I might as well just change them to link to the election pages
 
@YiJiang, so, what have you got on your to-do list?
 
A few bugs, mainly
 
Just remembered one idea we discussed last week - being able to enter any userid for comparison. (aka, vanity search :)
 
Hehehe, well do you want it to be part of this page or a separate page?
 
12:31 PM
on the same page, otherwise no-one'll find it :)
 
Anyway, the page isn't really that useful, since the profile pages probably contain the same information already
 
Don't know where though
Seriously - I think it was @Will who suggested putting the current moderators in there, for comparison. Allowing any userid would be a half-way solution
It wouldn't just be for me & Jon Skeet :)
though you'd probably help people by defaulting to Jon's userid :)
 
Well, including current mods is difficult because a) the list from the API contains devs too and b) for SE 2.0 sites the temp. mods will also be running
 
ok, +1 for my half-way solution then :)
 
1:34 PM
@YiJiang, good comment from @Arjan here
> And what about "Meta participation" referring to the site specific meta? Like at superuser.com/election only participation on meta.superuser.com seems to be accounted for, not the participation on meta.stackoverflow.com?
He's actually talking about the election pages, but I've been wondering the same thing
 
@Benjol Well, is there really any point to account for MSO activity for non-SO site mods?
 
@YiJiang, well, yes, I think there is. Did you see all the furore on meta.math about the "enter submits comments" feature?
If you were a mod and hadn't been on meta.so, you'd have no idea what hit you.
 
The question I've seen is whether the mod will if elected participate more on MSO
 
given that meta.so is really meta.se and meta.so rolled into one...
@YiJiang, personnaly, I prefer to base future activity on past actions...
 
I'll see what I can do, though I still have my doubts about it's usefulness
 
1:38 PM
"It is true that up until this time I've never taken a particular interest in politics, but I solemnly promise that if you elect me president of this country, I will be thoroughly engaged and competent in every domain" :)
@YiJiang, well, there's a layout problem as well. Another thing is that the other sites don't have separate rep for their meta.
Oh, I see, you've zapped that since I last looked.
 
@Benjol One of the nice things about client-side JavaScript is the speed of development :)
 
Anyway, I'd put the meta thing after the 'vanity search', as priorities go
But it's a good question.
mildly subjective but...
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Q: How important is meta.SO participation for a SE moderator?

BenjolInspired by a comment by Arjan here, I wondered if - in your opinion - participation on this meta (which functions as meta.stackexchange AND meta.stackoverflow) is also important for a moderator on a StackExchange site. In addition to participation on the meta of the given site, obviously. (If s...

 
@Benjol given that a Mod needs to be aware of SE policies, I guess it's fair to say ( a little? ) meta.SO participation is important
 
@Sathya Actually, I don't think you would need the local version any more - I've removed the YQL dependency
 
@Sathya, well, that's what I think too, but I'm interested to see if I'm the only one (unlikely, given that anyone seeing the question will already be on meta....)
 
1:49 PM
Hmmm @NickCraver I just noticed the nominee's comment's usernames are not highlighted any more in the election comment threads. Is this a bug?
No, hang on - the nominee's comment usernames are highlighted if there's too many comments and I choose to expand them
Very weird
 
@YiJiang, nice catch, I noticed last week that some were and some weren't, but not that it was the expanding that made the difference
 
Hi !
 
+1 for Waffles badge, I like my moderators well rounded
2
 
@Benjol ?
 
@badp, you haven't read the comments on the nominations properly, have you? :)
 
2:02 PM
@badp The comments Polly has been leaving on every nominee :P (It is Polly, isn't it?)
 
@Benjol Comments? Who reads that stuff! :P
 
@YiJiang, yes! I only just noticed that. Weird!
Has someone hijacked his account? :)
 
@badp You'd be surprised, some of the nominees have already (allegedly) ruined their own candidacy by (allegedly) over-reacting in comments
 
Hmmm... is the xkcd reference appropriate
 
2:07 PM
Good news, folks
Brown Sharpie has resumed its comics
although I only give this one two groans out of five
 
Hmmm... Independence Day is playing on TV right now
 
Interesting Q over on CodeReview:
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Q: Should references always be used in answers?

MichaelThe best answers I've seen, on this site and on programmers, often include references to experts on refactoring, design patterns, and other computer science fields. I have learned a good bit about refactoring and design patterns and implement them myself, but I don't know many of the names for th...

 
2:35 PM
@YiJiang Oh ? will check then, I tried it couple days ago been out of town!
@Benjol I think that will be the majority opinion, but let's see how it goes
 
Oops, Pekka deleted his answer, hope it wasn't something I commented...
 
Morning!
 
Ah, new improved answer from Pekka.
Morning @Moshe, had a good night? :)
 
2:53 PM
How is everyone today?
 
Alright, and yourself?
 
@Josh ok. Had a discussion with Jeff about why 2k users should have to wait for second person to ok pending edits. Got @YiJiang's page working for everyone. Talked about whether nominees for other sites should be interested in their meta AND meta.so
 
Okay. It was just reported to me that I broke file uploads companywide with our new SSL cert =o
 
9 hours chat summarised in 3 lines. Don't know if that's cool, or depressing...
 
LOL
@Benjol I should like to read the conversation with Jeff
 
2:56 PM
It ends around badp's starred comment
6 hours ago, by badp
We bitch because we care :)
 
sweet thanks, will check out after I restore order to my customers :-)
 
@Josh Nice! You gotta love breaking things
 
not really! :-)
 
Ends here (I can't get conversation to work) chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/468814#468814
sorry, gotta go...
 
no prob, thanks @Benjol!
@ircmaxell it was an incorrect IP in an Apache <VirtualHost> directive...
 
3:09 PM
yawns 'Ello all, what's everyone up to?
 
Ahhh
 
@TimStone Good morning. Much of the same around these parts :-)
 
Ah, general insanity then? Good stuff. :P
2
 
@TimStone General Failure and his hard disks, of course
 
@Benjol, I looked at Doodle.com, but seriously, the UI kinda...sucks.
 
3:18 PM
@RebeccaChernoff They are looking for a graphics designer :P
 
I'm pretty sure if a mod had recalculated my rep when I was 50 rep away from 10k to make me 200+ rep away, I would've killed them with my bare hands
 
Time vampires. shakes fist
 
@RebeccaChernoff Doodle is fine, really
unless you have over nine thousand choices
 
well, when the starting point needs to be "literally any time within these x days"
 
3:28 PM
why would I want to run you, Rebecca? o_O
 
Testing in Chrome 8.0.552.237 on Windows XP
Test Ops/sec
sort reverse
var test = origArray.slice();
test.sort(sortFunc).reverse();
41,380
±0.16%
fastest
sort w/ reversed order
var test = origArray.slice();
test.sort(inverted);
32,029
±0.50%
22% slower
sort w/ descending func
var test = origArray.slice();
test.sort(sortFuncRev);
41,307
±0.12%
fastest
 
Clicking any rchern links is probably not a great policy
 
I don't need the results here, was just asked to get more results (;
 
I'll go get Chromium 10.0.648 then!
just to one-up all other results
@RebeccaChernoff btw Sunday 1500 EST/2000 GMT/2100 CET usually works well for EU and US
 
3:34 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Someone ran it with iPhone? :P
 
Chrome again is the clear winner
Although props to IE 9 for taking the second spot on my machine.
Oh, wait, forgot to run Firefox, let's see..
 
@MichaelMrozek Given that ya all has Core i7s, and I've only got a crummy 3 year old AMD dual core...
 
Yeah, no, FF performs terribly.
 
oh well, if nothing else I get the top Chromium browser version!
 
3:38 PM
For kicks, let's see how iPhone 4 does :P
Wow, surprisingly not bad against the other iPhone.
 
those browser #'s are only really relevant on your own machine ;)
i was more concerned about seeing the performance of .reverse() in comparison
 
@YiJiang They seem to have an awful lot of XSS problems
 
zomg, it's a @gnarf
 
figured id come lurk here until i forget about a chat client in my browser
 
3:45 PM
eats a breakfast reuben
 
is that a pinky & the brain reference?
 
no
 
@TimStone damn that sounds good...
 
i started using 'gnarf' in the late 80s
 
@gnarf ok, just checking :)
 
3:47 PM
It's delicious. :)
 
besides i believe they used 'narf'
 
true.
 
I feel bad when people accept my answer when there's a better one. Posters should have the option of declining checkmarks
 
@MichaelMrozek There's a Feature Request for That™
 

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