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12:00 AM
Man he doesn't even respond to random provocation! :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException if my math is correct, he's just now watching the fireworks and finding someone to kiss. might be a little occupied right now.
 
ah HA. I'll bet that's it :-)
In that case, happy new year @Marc! :-)
 
 
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1:42 AM
@TimStone My god! What are you doing!? You're removing the element with id Rebecca that has the .migraine class! Gosh, what did you do to her? You were looking for $('#Rebecca .migraine').remove();, right?
Or rather, you've removed #rebecca when all you should be doing is remove the .migraine from her!
(Pedantic CSS selector boy to the rescue!)
 
2:14 AM
@TheUnhandledException lol just saw your message. dunno, probably going somewhere? :)
 
2:33 AM
0
A: What are some of the major challenges you would like to see StackExchange take on in 2011?

John Encourage comments on ALL voting, especially downvoting.

------^
Looking for ideas.
 
Ha! The Fairytale of New York is on the UK Top 20 Chart again
 
3:25 AM
Anybody here?
 
3:40 AM
@YiJiang The Rebecca with a migraine was an imposter. Later in the code she was replaced by the migraine-free one. Also, I typed it on my phone, shush :P
@MaximZaslavsky I unfortunately am, heh.
 
4:07 AM
@MichaelPetrotta He was there, pretty good. The show overall was really funny, good stuff.
 
4:21 AM
3
Q: What is the most efficient way to destroy the universe?

SplashHitDon't worry... I won't actually do it, just would like to know how.

 
 
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5:25 AM
guzzled champagne and feels less bleh now Hooray, it's a New Year's miracle...sorta!
'Ello @mootinator
 
Looks like Jimmy Wales fell 500k short of his 2010 fundraising goal!
 
I guess Wikipedia will suddenly go offline now, heh.
 
Does anyone here want to help the guy whose question I posted above to destroy the universe?
 
I expect wikipedia ads any second now.
@TimStone Appy NEW Yeeear
 
Hooray! \o/
It's not quite that happy. :P
But I had a lot of edge to take off, so there you go.
 
5:27 AM
@YiJiang Sounds good.
 
@YiJiang Not until 2012.
 
@YiJiang There, I added a bounty.
 
@TimStone But that's only the Earth eh?
@mootinator Did you really... oh god you did /facepalm
 
@YiJiang Wine + Area51 points don't mix.
 
@YiJiang I'm working off of the "The Earth is the center of the universe" ideology.
 
 
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6:35 AM
Dang, my old machine is noisy.
 
7:10 AM
Hey, did I miss some complaining about ISPs?
Let me help out:
 
Sprint PCS? Is that your phone?
 
No, it's the best thing we can get out here.
 
Forgive me, I feel the need to post.
 
People 10 miles further away from town get both DSL and cable, but there's a little black hole where we live.
 
7:17 AM
But on the upside - Austin!
 
I don't live in Austin. That's just where the wireless connects to the trunk, I guess.
 
lol, still on speed tests?
Hello 2011. (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Or lack thereof...
 
same difference (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff What's that? 2011? That's old news, man! Like 15 hours old! (Hello from GMT+8!) :D
 
7:23 AM
pfft.
Singapore: UNSUPPORTED.
 
 
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10:03 AM
@Marc good morning good Sir
Are you working on this fine day?
I know I am
 
10:41 AM
@MarcGravell Something odd is happening on SO - can you investigate?
0
Q: Why is Chrome miscalculating jQuery submenu dimensions?

chunkymonkeyI'm trying to implement this dropdown menu with flyouts: http://jsfiddle.net/chunkymonkey/fr6x4/ In Chrome certain categories can be expanded to show their subcategories while others show nothing when opened up. For example: Alternative Rock can be expanded to show its multiple subcategorie...

^ This question is brand new, but the same user must have been repeatedly asking and deleting this same question, since I distinctly remember seeing it on the SO homepage just hours ago
The 32 reps the user has is also suspect
In fact, the original should've been quite old, but my memory doesn't quite serve me well here
If I can remember correctly, mods can see deleted posts on the user's profile page
 
11:20 AM
@YiJiang Hah, what a Joker! I saw the same question floating around for the last few days, I was wondering too
 
@Pekka That's four of them now - the moment I commented on his question, he deleted that one too. Now let's just wait for him to get suspended or something...
 
@YiJiang what a prick. Especially because he apparently already had answers in his original question.
 
@Pekka On the list of recently deleted posts, I see that a large number of them do not appear to have anybody associated with the deletion - ie. it just says 'Deleted 11 hours ago by ' Do you have any idea why?
 
@YiJiang There is a list of recently deleted posts? (Off to investigate)
Oh, nice!
Can you show an example?
 
@Pekka stackoverflow.com/tools/recently-deleted?page=11 Page 11 is filled with them
 
11:33 AM
@YiJiang Strange! Don't know what that is about
Maybe they were deleted by the devs somehow
 
12:08 PM
@TimStone I've always said some downtime would be the most efficient advertising campaign for Wikipedia. Go offline for two days, and have hundreds of thousands of journalists, researchers, and students queue to make their donations afterwards
 
 
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3:19 PM
Order Status:	 Pending
Date Ordered:	12/31/2010
Due Date:	12/31/2010

Completion Date:
Completion Time:
So much for my internet speed being bumped up yesterday. ):
 
3:30 PM
@RebeccaChernoff well, at least they're not lying.
 
There is that I suppose.
This is not much consolation. (;
 
@RebeccaChernoff yeah, I can understand that. :)
 
4:08 PM
yawns 'Ello everyone, welcome to 2011 and such.
@Pekka Heheh, I like that idea ;)
 
4:23 PM
you mean two days without Jimbo's grin?
inconceivable!
I'm shattered, in other news.
choke full of delscious foods
sicily is horrible for keeping fit.
I weren't fit to begin with, so it's okay.
 
I'm playing OpenTTD right now, even though I'm terrible at it
My trains are going in circles
 
 
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6:12 PM
Happy New Year Everyone!
I partied too hard last night and changed my display name on a whim...
It hasn't shown up in chat yet which is sad
Nor has my gravitar
 
@TheUnhandledException Ha! But you've got one thing wrong - jQuery can never throw an exception, since it always works
Even if it's a needMoarjQuery exception
 
No, you misunderstand :-)
it's not jQuery throwing an exception, it's an exception being thrown due to lack of jQuery!
Chat is sloe to update new gravatar/names
 
@TheUnhandledException Hmmm... what else could need more jQuery? It's not JavaScript, surely, since jQuery is totally not connected to JavaScript, and something that has jQuery would not need moar of it...
 
@YiJiang My Company's Framework system, for one :-)
^^ For before chat refreshes Gravatar
How are you @YiJiang?
 
@TheUnhandledException Fine. Doing a lousy job at playing OpenTTD
 
6:21 PM
I have not heard of OpenTTD
 
Maybe trying to take a screenshot of the full 512x512 tile large map isn't such a good idea after all
Right... still not responding
'Giant Screenshot'... urgh...
 
There we go
New Year's Day Gravatar has been achieved
@YiJiang openttd.org/en ?
That sounds fun
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Hang on, let me find where it saved that screenshot
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException It's a remake of the classical Transport Tycoon Deluxe
 
@YiJiang If you're not doing as well as you want ask for help on gaming.stackexchange.com
Share question links
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I know, but the [openttd] tag doesn't exist yet, so...
 
6:29 PM
maybe I can create it?
I forgot how much rep is required to create tags and edit questions to add a tag
 
Holy crap that giant screenshot is 166mb big
 
yes I can create and retag
@YiJiang =o
 
Sweet
(except it's not sweet if your trains don't go where they need to I suppose)
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException They don't get lost, at least, but as you can see the signal placement and track design is sub-optimal
 
6:35 PM
@YiJiang I can? It's difficult for me to see anything with this lampshade on my head...
(Actually I have no idea what optimal signal placement and track design would look like)
Happy New Year @GeorgeEdison
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Neither do I, but I do know what a sub-optimal one look like :P
 
Same.
 
ie. the one I have
 
I'm glad the Wikipedia fundraiser is over :P
 
@GeorgeEdison Jimmy Wales was starting to creep you out too? :-)
he started to get pissed off!
 
6:38 PM
@The: There's always this if you miss it: chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/…
 
ahhhhhhhh! no! :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException, you can log out of chat and log back in. That should refresh the info. Otherwise it syncs hourly I believe.
 
@RebeccaChernoff it did. Thanks.
 
Ah, guess I should refresh too. (;
 
not for you apparently, but for me it did.
 
6:39 PM
blah, longer names = fail.
 
Then again, I changed mine to longer, so... q:
 
Well actually the OpenTTD wiki has some great example of optimal systems, but I find it a little hard to follow
 
just call me @The, everyone else does :-)
 
I call you @T+tab (:
 
6:40 PM
It's easier on the fingers... wait TAB?
 
@RebeccaChernoff That's even better XD
 
@GeorgeEdison Autocomplete :P
 
Don't tell me you didn't know about that @George
 
@RebeccaChernoff Makes him sound like a rapper - It's T-Tab, yo!
 
6:41 PM
@Rebecca you'll be glad to know one of my New Year's resolutions is to not star "oy" messages any more
 
Never knew chat had it.
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException ROFL
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException It works!
Cool.
 
Chat is awesome
 
I wonder if my 2-24 hour wait time is gonna be super long because of the holiday ):
 
6:45 PM
I hope not
 
Hello
 
Happy new year @Tyler
 
You have a terrible name...
 
You guys saw the new desktop notification feature in chat?
 
@GeorgeEdison I'm not a fan
 
6:46 PM
@GeorgeEdison We were the ones responsible for it, sort of
 
@TylerChacha Gee, thanks, nice to see you too
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I'm trying to be more honest this year :P
 
Also, electrified railways were available in 1966 already?
 
@YiJiang: What, really?
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Oh .. and Happy New Years!
 
6:47 PM
I've been wanting something like that for quite some time.
 
Oh, that reminds me. @TimStone, the double notifications from chat itself are coming when you get notified but don't have that window open.
@GeorgeEdison, feature in the userscript that got promoted to core.
 
@TylerChacha Brutally so it would appear. :-)
 
Though not sure if they'd talked about it prior.
 
Let's assume they didn't and were just moved by the userscript @Rebecca :-)
 
6:48 PM
@GeorgeEdison We were discussing desktop integration when @radp pointed us to the particular APIs used for this, so @RebeccaChernoff implemented it in the userscript, then @Marc <del>totally plagiarized</del> took inspiration from that, so here we are
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException haha, works for me. (;
 
@YiJiang: Won't be the first time... remember the image flair? :P
 
@YiJiang Hmm, kinda. I knew how to do it already, I just needed a kick in the pants to actually do it. q:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Ha! I felt sort of behind the times for not knowing about that API, but it's Chrome only right now, so...
 
the top menu buttons should really be lined up with the end of the top questions box..
and since when did we get 'Super Star' on chat?
 
6:52 PM
Since like 3+ weeks ago
 
its kinda stupid to have a chat.meta.stackoverflow.com profile and a meta.stackoverflow profile. Shouldn't those be combined?
Ideally, you would be able to go to someones profile on the main site and see all their chat stuff
because it is suppose to be the same person...
 
I like having the separated
 
Dec 22 '10 at 3:58, by Tim Stone
Props to whoever decided not to (or was too lazy to) put a reverse link from the main site profile to the chat profile. ;)
 
Why?
 
6:56 PM
So you can represent yourself differently on Meta than you do on StackExchange sites of course!
:-)
 
But your chat identity isn't different than your parent site identity..
or it shouldn't be..
 
maybe it shouldn't be... but mine is :-)
well, my meta identity is different from my identity on all other sites
as meta is different from all other sites
On other sites you get rep for good answers and strong knowledge. On meta you get rep for freehand circles and memes
 
im not saying between Meta.SO and SO
I'm saying between Chat and the parent site
in Chat.Meta, Meta is the parent site
 
Sorry. I misunderstood
Or misread
I partied a bit too hard last night ;-)
I was just exited to see 2010 end XD
 
7:11 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException, utter fail. >_<
 
sorry what?
oh, my name being cut off
 
Well that's not my fault! (;
I'll make my next name shorter. I thought Super Long Names Are Hilarious!
(pesto)
It's also messing up in chat, I see:
The
NeedsMoarJquer
y Exception
 
I've got ery on the 3rd line, but same difference
Though if I was looking at my actual monitor instead of rdc'd in it'd be different
 
Maybe the team can change my name to just NeedsJqueryException
 
7:16 PM
this laptop is 1280x800
 
Mine is also
Hey @ChrisF didn't see you sneak in. Happy New Year!
 
Interesting that we see different then.
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Cheers - Happy New Year to you too.
 
ditto (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm using Chrome on Ubuntu, which is probably why
 
7:17 PM
Chrome on Win7 (:
This laptop is xp...It feels so old and foreign!
 
Maybe because it's 10 years old, LOL
 
@RebeccaChernoff - did you come to any conclusion with the Web Apps discussions?
 
No. ):
Well, I know what my conclusion would be.
But I don't think there's a consensus.
 
Well if there was one I'd go with it :)
 
Well what you see on the post is what there is shrugs
I dunno. I get the feeling most people don't see it as a major issue.
 
7:22 PM
I know it's too late for the existing sites but I think there needs to be more discussion about what a site is and what it isn't during the commitment phase. Then at least people are used to talking about it if things change during beta.
 
Whereas I see it as something that's been festering and is going to spiral out of control if something isn't done lol.
 
Well I see your point of view - perhaps you need to take some action. I'll back you up.
 
Then part of me thinks perhaps it is something best left for moderator elections.
 
"Easier to seek forgiveness than ask permission" (or words to that effect).
 
Yeah, but this could have pretty big effects.
Jeff seems to think these questions are inevitable.
 
7:24 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Which reminds me, still 280 points shy of voting rights (assuming I lose mod status).
@RebeccaChernoff Doesn't make them acceptable.
 
Even if we don't go with my proposal, I think we've gotta come up with something.
We're getting questions from SU that don't have anything to do with actually using web apps also. So that's not helping.
 
Ah the migration problem. Jeff did promise a more prominent "just migrated" list. But there needs to be an easy way of reversing a migration.
 
Eh, I dunno. Just don't migrate it in the first place.
There is a list of just migrated questions
Tools > Links > Recently Imported.
 
Yes but it's buried. Jeff was saying that it's going to get it's own tab.
3
A: Do moderators want to be notified when Stack Overflow questions get migrated?

Jeff AtwoodQuestion migrations, both in and out, should be a dedicated tab on the 10k tools page -- Marc will implement this as soon as is reasonably possible.

Hit the rep cap on Meta for the 1st time in ages.
We need this:
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A: ♦ Moderator dashboard - help us help you help us all!

ChrisFRelated to Diago's answer: Add the ability to reject a migration. The question would get removed from the target site and the question on the source site flagged for moderator attention. The moderator on the source site can then either accept the rejection in which case the question just becom...

I think the bounty was auto awarded so don't read too much into that.
 
Well, some of the migrations I've seen weren't full community migrations. One of them just had votes from you and Diago I think. q:
 
7:32 PM
Ah.
Though the moderator vote overrides what ever was the consensus before so if I voted for just "off topic" you wouldn't know.
 
Fair point.
Rebecca: 0, Chris: 1. (;
 
Though I have been known to get things wrong from time to time ;)
 
Speaking of which, I forgot to see if the questions from yesterday were undeleted/re-opened on SU. I think I forgot to bookmark them too. ):
 
7:55 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I approve of your new user name. Does it have a background story?
Except that obviously, the world needs more jQuery.
And the year 2011 needs more jQuery as well, especially
And the Stack Exchange Network
 
@Pekka Sorry I was AFK
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I shall never forgive you
 
My old username was supposed to be temporary, I was doing in in honor of the name for this tavern I thought should have been used
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I see!
 
It grew on me though and I kept it, but I decided for the new year I should change
 
7:58 PM
Very nice!
And the lamp shade?
 
So, keeping the part I liked, I changed it slightly. It's too long though, I think I will change again in 30 days
 
(Opens @The's profile to take a closer look)
 
@Pekka I partied a bit too much last night ;-)
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException ahh, makes sense, makes sense!
 
I was happy to see 2010 end. Which reminds me, happy new year @Pekka!
 
7:59 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException the same, the same! May it see much finished work.
Will we be seeing more mood-influenced gravatar changes in the future?
 
@ChrisF, asked you a question in the WA room but forgot to see if you were even there, heh.
 
@Pekka I believe we will. I am a fan of changing my display name on a whim :-)
 
I was gonna change my gravatar, but then I previewed it at 16x16.
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException yeah. A shame that it can be changed regularly only every 30 days
 
8:00 PM
Too small. ):
 
@Pekka actually what really inspired me to start doing that one day was when you renamed yourself "Questions" a while back
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException yeah! :)
The "copy profile" trick doesn't work well any more now that people have 20 SE site profiles on average
 
Yeah. So @Rebecca will have to deal with my long name until 1/31 :-)
 
The lampshade goes away tomorrow though :-)
@RebeccaChernoff Making icons that look good that small is hard
 
8:03 PM
This is soooo great
I now have a "side display" consisting of a 15" TFT
 
Mounted tilted by 90° to a piece of furniture next to my big screen
So it's in fancy portrait mode
I drove two huge screws through the TFT's mount and fixed it to the cupboard
This is my fourth attempt at working with two screens
It never worked for me, I was more comfortable with just one
 
I'll have one of those too. My desk setup made it so that the cable wasn't long enough and it wasn't a big enough deal to buy a longer cable. But with my new desk I think the setup would work.
Multi monitors is fun. \o/
 
Yeah, I decided to give it another try and dock Chrome's error console on the second screen for a big Ajax project I'm working on
That stuff is the only thing I would want to put on a second screen
 
I want a multi-monitor setup again
These days I am using a poor-mans multi-monitor setup: One monitor is my laptop :-p
 
8:07 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException one idea I toyed with was getting me one of those picture frame thingies that can also act as a USB monitor, and mounting it on top of the big screen
 
Yes, same here
Put chat on that XD
 
Wouldn't that be too small?
 
OK. I'm off to get some gaming time in. catch you guys later!
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Yeah :) + later!
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yes, it would. Better for work instead :-)
 
8:08 PM
Using the old 15" TFT turned out to be cheaper and more practical
@RebeccaChernoff yes, probably! Although it might work okay for an error console / debugger, and, say, mail notifications
 
True. Just that though I guess.
 
Plus those small frames can look really sexy, with almost no border around the display, good colours and all
 
Hmm, I might break out the PS2 for the first time in about a year. I'm getting bored with vacation/unemployment.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I envy you! I'm not there yet :)
PS2 sounds like a plan.
Do you have anything in your sights work-wise?
 
I only have DDR and Rock Band, heh. Well, I have some random game Mojo too but I can't find it.
Yeah, I start work on Monday. (:
 
8:11 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Ah, nice!
Better surroundings than in the last job I assume?
Or at least, promising to be better?
 
Twas a voluntary move, so I certainly hope so. (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah! Well, a good start to you then.
 
(: thanks
 
I'm really fond of this new setup! And of the fact that a €35 used TFT from 2003 now has Portrait Mode :)
It has chat on the small screen
I shall see how it works out.
I wonder though what Jeff will say when I start filing layout bugs that are caused by a 768px width? :D
Anyway, I have to run. A happy new year to everyone and until later!
 
8:35 PM
I've never had multi-monitors that weren't totally adjacent and the same size. I feel like it'd be weird.
 
8:59 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, it is weird. But, you get used to it to some extent. It helps if 2nd monitor is relegated to a few specific tasks.
 
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