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3:00 PM
@Fosco Do you believe that the current name should remain?
 
I wish to annotate the statement made by @Fosco and add that, if a name change is not made, a vengeful horde of contest participants shall be created
 
I like ponies.
 
In order to preserve order, we must proceed with the name change as demanded by Popular Demand!
and by @PopularDemand
 
@Chacha102 As one of the more active participants in the contest, I must say no. Those who do not desire a change won't be harmed either way. They don't care, didn't participate, and shouldn't mind.
 
@Fosco I humbly submit to the court evidence to support this claim:
6 mins ago, by Michael Mrozek
@Josh I considered posting "The Tavern (General)" as an answer on that thread, but by the time I thought of it I figured there was no way it would ever catch up to the others
had it been important enough to these rebels, no rationale would have stopped them from rejecting our propsed change of name!
 
3:03 PM
@Josh No, I don't care what the name is, whether it stays or changes. I'm just not seeing the point of the hoopla, leaving that all to you, heh.
 
My current care-o-meter: |---*------------------------|
5
 
:P
 
Thank you for your statements, @rchern and @MichaelMrozek. I hereby propose to the court that the issue of whether or not the name should be changed hereby be closed!
 
So, as of current there is 7 people in this room. If 5 people agree, we shall forgo the name change.
Those 5 people will vote by voting to close meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/63536/naming-the-tavern as Too Localized.
 
looks at the list of people in the room with some confusion
 
3:05 PM
Wait, agree that the name should or should not be changed? The legelaeese speak now has me confoosed!!
 
If the name should not be changed, vote to close.
I shall return in 10 minutes.
 
this has gotten way, waaaay too meta
just change the name already and stop talking about it
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Objection! @Shog9 is not playing along with our ludicrous charade!
 
edited for more ludicrosity
 
LOL!
 
3:11 PM
It would be amusing to see @Chacha102 attempt to hold @Shog9 in contempt of, uh, "court."
 
yuck get rid of that photo..
 
Bah... You can't vote to close questions with bounties
 
@Fosco +1
 
Ok. So before we can decided whether or not we need a new name, we need to decide what is the best name
 
@Fosco I flagged it as offensive ;-)
 
3:12 PM
I am going to abstain from any voting.
 
The court will now ask the jury to decide what is the best name.
 
@Josh I have a jQuery console installed specifically so I can remove Shog9's more disturbing images
 
@Chacha102 I would like to submit to the court an objection -- The suggestion "The Foo Bar" is not permissible on the grounds that "Foo" is not widely considered to be an adjective!
@MichaelMrozek Haha, awesome :-)
 
Would anyone object to "The Foo Bar" being disqualified from the competition?
 
@Chacha102 The 42 people that upvoted it probably aren't fans, but they're wrong anyway
 
3:14 PM
I do feel I speak for those who cannot
 
Does anyone like any other names?
 
@Benjol would object if he could
 
Howdy
 
@Chacha102 How about Steve? Steve is a good name. I like Steve.
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The court recognizes Joe who has entered the Courtroom.
 
3:15 PM
@JoePhillips in case you're really, really lost:
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Q: Naming the Tavern

Chacha102I think Popular Demand put it best: It's a well-known fact that all the best taverns follow a specific naming convention. "The Brass Lantern," "The Prancing Pony," "The Drunken Clam," "The Mended Drum,"... they're all "The [Descriptor] [Noun]." Unfortunately, the tavern we're in isn't so bles...

 
The court recognizes that Steve is a good name, and @mmyers likes Steve.
 
The courtroom thing got ridiculous about 20 seconds after Popular started it
 
The Steve Tavern
nice ring
 
lol
 
@MichaelMrozek Wait, I started it?
 
3:15 PM
@MichaelMrozek I agree, but I am also laughing so hard my co-workers are wondering what's going on :-)
 
The court recognized @PopularDemand as the source of why I have to talk like this
 
@PopularDemand Oh, never mind, Chacha started it
 
All those in favor of burning him at the stake, say Aye.
 
I mean
 
Obviously the name should be "Shog9's house of disturbing images that will get you fired if seen on your screen", but I'm not sure that will fit in the right panel
 
3:17 PM
@Josh I'm still really really lost :O
 
@MichaelMrozek If you're not happy, you can just leave and do something else, and simply check in every 15-20 messages to see if it's over (like I'm doing).
 
@JoePhillips We're talking about a new name for this place
@JoePhillips Just say that you agree with me and we should change "The Tavern" to "The Unhandled Exception"
:-)
 
EVERYONE REFRESH
 
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT IS SO GREAT!
 
The court recognizes that @MichaelMrozek was wrong and it does fit...
 
3:18 PM
@Chacha102 Indeed. I vote for leaving it
 
@Josh Psh! You wish :P
 
The court also recognizes that we will not be leaving it...
 
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Q: Example of a simple ASP.NET MVC + NHibernate + Fluent with proper session handling?

Joe PhilllipsI'm new to all of these technologies. I would like to see a simple (not over the top) example of how you would set up a project with these technologies. The most important being the proper NHibernate session handling (using HttpContext). Or we can build off of what I already have. I've seen seve...

WTF? That's not the question I linked....
 
@Chacha102 Hear, hear!
 
/me wonders if it was a good idea to do the naming on a Friday...
 
3:19 PM
@Piskvor It is a wonderful idea.
 
Question, Your Honor: WIll the very title of this room get me fired if seen on my screen?
 
/me points out to @Piskvor that Friday is the only day such insanity would be appropriate
 
@Chacha102 That's not mutually exclusive.
 
@mmyers The current title is: Shog9's house of disturbing images that will get you fired if seen on your screen
 
For some reason the 'link' on that question goes to the wrong question?? What is going oN!?
 
3:20 PM
@mmyers But it shall be changed soon.
 
I hereby propose to the court that the title of the room should be SafeForWork™
 
So
 
Strawberry Shortcake's House of Bunnies
 
All in favor of just not changing the name and blaming it on "Unreconcilable differences between members in the chat." Say Aye.
 
Nay!
 
3:21 PM
/blame room
 
I object!
 
I hereby have to vote for The Foo Bar because it's clever
 
very well... The court shall continue..
 
Am I the only one who sees that hollow star?
 
<redacted>
 
3:22 PM
No that's the new pinned icon
 
@CRoss Thank you.
To Chat Feedback!
 
I propose we move on to the Actual Selection of the New Name of The Tavern
 
Ok. So we have to make a decision here
Right now we need to pick the best name
 
I vote that we implement a voting system into chat
 
Even if we don't end up changing the name
We need to pick the best name so that I can award the bounty and we can vote to close the question if no changed is warranted
 
3:24 PM
Since @Fosco will not defend his own ideas, I propose that the #2 upvoted answer, The Unhandled Exception is the best one
 
So far the two proposed names are The Foo Bar and The Unhandled Exception
Any other proposals?
Any name, no matter how many votes, can be proposed at this point in time
 
I hereby propose: The Flipped Bit
And I would like to counter @Farseeker's objection that
> -1 as it doesn't make sense outside of Stack Overflow
 
The Foo Bar, The Unhandled Exception, and The Flipped Bit.
The court hereby adds "The Empty Glass"
just because it is funny
 
I second that motion
 
(I'm starting to get why comittees are so unproductive...)
 
3:27 PM
LOL
 
Ok, So, everyone cast your vote in the next 5 minutes.
Simply put the > and the name of the room you like
 
The Pancake Stack (just kidding)
 
> The Unhandled Exception
And an absentee vote from @Benjol:
> The Foo Bar
1 hour ago, by Benjol
By the way, may I have a quiet word in your ear about that tavern naming thing? Not wanting to influence you in any way, but FOO BAR IS THE ANSWER :)
 
>The Foo Bar
 
> The Foo Bar
 
3:30 PM
@Fosco! Your civic duty!
be not a chicken!
:-)
 
I move that the vote be tallied
 
1 minute left. The current votes are 3: The Foo Bar, 2: The Unhandled Exception, 1: The Pancake Stack (Just Kidding), 1: The Tavern of Insanity
 
And @PopularDemand! You two get real quiet when your opinions count! :-)
@MichaelMrozek you yourself said you dislike The Foo Bar!
 
I already voted. Refresh the page and you'll see.
 
1 hour ago, by Michael Mrozek
@Benjol I don't really care what the room is called, but apparently "foo bar" is really funny, based on the feedback in here. I read it and thought "heh, pun", and that was it
 
3:33 PM
@Josh I also said:
29 mins ago, by Michael Mrozek
My current care-o-meter: |---*------------------------|
 
But it's not at absolute zero! :-)
We must fight the Foo Bar invasion!
 
The current votes are 1: The Foo Bar, 2: The Unhandled Exception, 1: The Pancake Stack (Just Kidding), 1: The Tavern of Insanity
 
It's dropped a bit as this has carried on, it's more like * |-------------------| now
 
(The Foo Bar just got -2)
 
My current care-o-meter: * |-------------|
aww, it stripped my spaces ):
 
3:34 PM
Damn, we've pushed @MichaelMrozek and @rchern off the edge, lol
 
The current votes are 0: The Foo Bar, 2: The Unhandled Exception, 1: The Pancake Stack (Just Kidding), 1: The Tavern of Insanity
 
@rchern Do nbsp s work?
 
LAST CHANCE BEFORE I AWARD THE BOUNTY TO THE FOO BAR.
 
/me sighs
 
Is everyone agreed that it is a generally alright name that deserves 200 rep?
 
3:35 PM
I hereby dejectedly agree...
 
(I can't give rep to The Unhandled Exception..)
Ok
 
I think it's clever, concise, and generally awesome
 
Now, if you don't care about the name change, vote to close: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/63536/naming-the-tavern
 
and that's saying a lot considering The Prancing Unicorn is competition
 
@JoePhillips lol
 
3:37 PM
I don't think you can vote to close question with bounty
 
I just gave out the bounty
and cast the first Close vote
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL You missed your chance to vote...
 
@Josh I already voted
 
oh :-)
 
3:38 PM
I'm mean, the most people voted for The Foo Bar. He should get something for that...
 
I agree @Chacha102
 
But vote to close so we can get this not-name-changing thing over with
It was fun, but honestly I think The Tavern has kinda stuck..
And if @balpha would like, I'll keep up the "of Insanity" for a little
 
@Chacha102 balpha?
7 mins ago, by mmyers
I already voted. Refresh the page and you'll see.
 
7 mins ago, by mmyers
I already voted. Refresh the page and you'll see.
 
I motion that if the name will remain as "The Tavern", it should be "The Tavern of Insanity" every friday :-)
 
3:40 PM
Oh, I lose :(
 
or @mmyers ...
 
@Josh s/until the end of the day/every Friday/
2
 
@mmyers is @balpha's sockpuppet account :-)
@MichaelMrozek YES
 
@MichaelMrozek That... is because you are not a Blue Ninja Mod.
 
@mmyers Could do us the honors...
 
3:42 PM
<3k rep :-(
So have the proceedings ended, can we stop annoying @rchern and @MichaelMrozek? :-)
And if so, what was the final verdict?
Oh
I see
 
The Court Shall Now Give its Verdict
From seeing the discussion in the past 45 minutes, the court finds that no name change is necessary. The bounty of 200 reputation has been awarded to The Foo Bar as it was the highest voted, but the members of the chatroom has not found it necessary to change the name to one of the submissions.
 
Well the name of the room just changed.
 
The court hereby rules that for the rest of the day, the Tavern shall remain "The Tavern of Insanity", and may be changed to "The Tavern" after that...
@mmyers .....
 
Wasn't me.
 
My eyes keep moving between the announcement that we're not changing the name and the new name of the room, trying to reconcile the obvious insanity
 
3:45 PM
@MichaelMrozek Likewise :-)
 
@MichaelMrozek The Foo Bar of Insanity, apparently
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL It's the EVIL SQL that did it!!!
 
Everyone can blame my name now :p
 
[engaging comment about a topic other than the name of this room]
 
So this concludes the proceedings?
 
3:47 PM
The Court hereby dismisses this case, and rules that no name change shall be attempted to be voted upon for at least 1 month. That is all.
 
Isn't that so, @rchern? @Michael?
 
The honorable Judge 102 shall now retire to his chambers.
 
Thank you for your service @Chacha102!
 
Um, what?
 
@rchern How's the weather out there?
 
3:50 PM
@MichaelMrozek I hope my lunacy in chat hasn't turned you completely against me -- I have respect for you and think we can still get along, even despite my contribution to the chaos in this room today and my thinking that Bill Gates' posts were funny :-)
 
@Josh Oh, was that you? You'll be happy to know I'm unable to keep grudges because I generally don't look at the name of the poster on [M]SO
 
@MichaelMrozek Awesome :-)
 
@Chacha102 chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/170713 probably doesn't need to be pinned -- name changes are pushed automatically, we don't need to refresh
 
@MichaelMrozek I saw that, the chat system is freaking awesome
 
That's a pin image? I see an empty star
 
3:53 PM
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL Apparently that is the new pin image.
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL That's the new pin
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL They changed the image, but it represents a pinned post, yet
 
I have already complained about this in Feedback.
 
LOL
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL Ever feel like you're being yelled at? ;-)
 
No response yet.
 
3:54 PM
I just feel like my name is really big for no reason
but that's ok
 
So, that was fun. Someone come up with something for next week
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL "no reason"? You're helping people all over the Internet test their computers' security!
 
@PopularDemand I did found a glitch in the chat with that name
 
@Chacha102 I hereby withdraw the two contest suggestions I made earlier.
 
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Q: Glitch in the highlight of the name in the chat

HoLyVieR' UNION DO EVIL SQL--My name is not properly highlighted in the chat when someone response to me. The highlight stops after HoLyVieR.

 
3:55 PM
@PopularDemand LOL
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL Good job!
 
@PopularDemand You can't withdraw, its over...
 
@Chacha102 You just asked for new suggestions for next week.
 
@PopularDemand I mean for a charade we can do
 
I have hereby changed my name in tribute to the Tavern That Could Have Beeen...
 
3:57 PM
@Chacha102 I think it's in my best interest to not explain myself any further.
 
@PopularDemand Why?
 
@Josh You need to reconnect, your name won't refresh
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL Apparently more than that...
 
@Josh Have you changed your meta name ?
 
4:00 PM
There we go
 
You're still Josh..
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL I have
 
Disconnect & Reconnect to chat
 
Close All Chat Windows
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL Cleared all chat cookies and re-logged in...
 
4:01 PM
Come back again
You're profile shows your name change
now you just need to enter rooms again
 
There we go, it should be changed now, when he's back
 
(And everyone else might need to refresh)
 
Any better?
 
I see it because I refreshed
You're name is now 'The'
 
@The I see it now
 
4:02 PM
See I see "The Unhandled (logo of my company)"
lol
Anyway, I am off to get some lunch
I'll catch you crazy people later! :-)
 
Crazy ? What, this is SPARTA !
 
I'm watching a movie that keeps buffering .. and it is playing off a DVD
Schools have such horrible computers...
 
1X DVD Reader ?
 
Not sure
 
@Chacha102 If I didn't know better I'd think schools didn't factor in students watching DVDs when purchasing their computers
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4:07 PM
@MichaelMrozek You've FGIWed me again, sir.
 
@MichaelMrozek Well its a teacher's computer
The teacher is playing a DVD
 
@PopularDemand That's how I amass all my reputation; it's not like I know things, I just sit on SO a lot and type fast :)
 
and it keeps buffering
 
@Chacha102 What you chat during teacher presentation ? I would never do that
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL Me neither, but that's usually because I have trouble staying conscious
 
4:10 PM
lol, that was ironical btw
I got a teacher presentation atm
It's just all about thing I already know
 
@Chacha102 I should have been so lucky! Back in my day, we ran all of our "movies" off of 3.5" floppies! And by "movies," I mean the two endlessly swapping images that passed for "animation" in The Oregon Trail! And those poor settlers' oxen were walking uphill the whole time! Shoeless! In the snow! Both ways, if you needed to return to a town for supplies! And there was cholera!
 
presentation is over, it's time to slack !
 
On second thought, I think I actually ran The Oregon Trail off of 5.75" floppies.
So put that in your 1x DVD player and smoke it. Whippersnapper.
Sep 2 at 16:16, by Popular Demand
status-everyone-driven-away-by-popular-demand
... again.
 
status-wtf-is-that-tag-feature
 
status-huh?
 
4:25 PM
[status-how] ?
 
just [status-XXX] alone
 
status-XXX
My kinda status
 
status-like-this
 
I just tough of a new name on meta
 
status-ahHA
 
4:26 PM
status-completed
 
[hi]
status-here
 
I'll wait a week to change to my new one
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL That would have been good :-)
@HoLyVieR is your name added to the many memes of meta? if not, I'll add it :-)
 
I don't think it is in it yet
I haven't seen the Meta meme thread bump in the past week
 
Oh, wait, it's "Other changes of management"
I didn't realize it was management only. :-)
 
4:29 PM
@TheUnhandledException ?
Interesting, I never refreshed my chat window, so you still look like Josh to me, but clicking the reply arrow fills in the proper "TheUnhandledException" name.
 
I will never refresh!
 
Also I wonder if that's the most-edited post in Stack Exchange history; last time I edited it, I was making revision #41.
 
@PopularDemand LOL. I'll always be Josh to you :-)
Anyway I am really off to get lunch this time :-) back in an hour
 
status-im-back
 
status-out-to-lunch
 
4:36 PM
status-bye
 
4:54 PM
status-back
 
status-welcome-back
 
status-thanks-joe-phillips
So, the tavern of insanity won?
 
no, we all lost
 
haha
 
@Shog9, you've been quiet lately. And @Diago's not even around.
 
4:57 PM
workin'
also, Diago's not around for me to harass
 
status-what-happened-to-statuses
 
I have a status. Where's your status?
 
@BoltClock they were "all the rage" when chat was in public beta, and now they're only used sparingly for comedic effect (i.e. the proper way) or in one big wall of red when a couple of people who didn't know about statuses realize that they, too, can make red tags appear in chat, how absolutely adorable! (i.e. the wrong way).
And we just had a red wall phase pass by a few minutes ago, so it ought to be pretty quiet for a little while, status-tag-wise.
 
Ha! I knew it. You didn't like the name Foo Bar. Well, that's why I posted more names here and on meta StackOverflow thread. And, my gravatar is insane, too :-)
 
we liked the foo bar, look at how many upvotes it got... i wasn't here when the name was picked though so I don't know what happened.
@NickMeta I think you got the bounty awarded on meta too, for the suggestion
 
5:04 PM
@Fosco The Tavern of Insanity isn't bad at all. I like it.
 
@Fosco they just decided it shouldn't change
Tavern of Insanity is a friday name
 
yeah sure, I got the bounty. Now I can go shopping!
 
There should be a reputation store
 
@HoLyVieRUNIONDOEVILSQL You have to pronounce it the right way. "The Tavern of Insanityyyyy!"
 
@NickMeta That really was an excellent piece of work; I wish I'd thought of it myself. And welcome to the tavern! I know it's not your first visit, but I don't remember ever welcoming you before.
 
5:07 PM
[status-popular-demand-likes-to-think-theres-a-right-way-and-a-wrong-way-for-everything]
looks like there's a limit!
 
@Fosco 51 chars.
@Fosco Duh, Popular Demand is a programmer. Code either works or it doesn't.
> Programmers have very well-honed senses of justice. Code either works, or it doesn’t. There’s no sense in arguing whether a bug exists, since you can test the code and find out.
 
@PopularDemand right and wrong are not mutually exclusive to working and not working.
 
the status tags work quite well, but you think we shouldn't use them if it's not funny.
 
@Fosco ... it was a joke.
 
5:09 PM
@PopularDemand oh sorry, my sarcasm detector fails testing all the time.
 
@Fosco But it was a good excuse to link to that article, which I just read for the first time ten minutes ago.
 
(if you never intend to use Programmers.SE, then vote Pavel twice - what are they gonna do about it, ban you?)
 
But that said, and at the risk of starting a really dumb argument, I do think the status tag thing is overdone. It's just my personal opinion, I'm not telling you you can't do it, I just think it's silly.
 
you're silly
 
@Shog9 done.
 
5:12 PM
status-true
 
status-get-bent
I draw a lot of inspiration from this chat room..
 
@Fosco If that's true, your status may be doomed-to-failure.
"Doomed" is a funny word.
 
status-prematurely-optimized
 
DOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
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@PopularDemand I mean how it functions..
 
5:15 PM
Quaked
 
We're all doomed, cap'n Mainwaring!
 
doom > quake
 
@PopularDemand the one-boxing, the starring/flagging/editing/replying.. the user list, the way the name/avatar changes at 3 lines, etc..
 
@Fosco The technical aspects of chat? What poppycock!
 
@PopularDemand lol..
 
5:21 PM
@Fosco, okay, seriously, I agree with you. It's pretty sweet. I don't think I could even figure out how to write an IM client like this, much less a multiuser chat.
 
(has the decency to blush)
 
@PopularDemand It's top notch. I could write it, but I didn't, that's the thing. I marvel at this chat room, knowing it is within my capability to mimic, beyond my capability to imagine.
if that makes sense..
 
@MarcGravell I'm pretty sure that you're no longer required to blush at things once you've become a father.
 
there's truth and wisdom in there
 
@Fosco Yes; see also FourSquare, facebook, twitter....
 
5:25 PM
The world could do without those 3.. ;)
 
I'm only two degrees of separation from Zuckerberg. Why'd he have to go and make facebook happen?
 
@Fosco +1
 
I was in DC recently and uploaded a pic from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, and a friend commented something to the effect of "thanks for validating my belief that things like foursquare are retarded and pictures of landmarks are so much more awesome"
(uploaded to facebook)
(I hate facebook)
 
Not the point; they're all successful, and we didn't think of them first.
 
5:36 PM
Ah.. ok, yes you are correct.
 
wtf? Can someone give me the elevator pitch for that room name?
tststs... leave for a few hours, and come back to insanityyyyy...
 
@Fosco It's not a competition, you weren't wrong; I just wasn't sure if my original intent was clear.
 
@balpha you're stuck on an elevator with us
 
@Shog9 Isn't there a movie about that coming out soon? Where everyone dies?
 
In this one, only most of us die
 
5:41 PM
@balpha And you have to say it like Vizzini.
@balpha So there was this big debate and stuff, and some people got tired of it, and the rest is self-explanatory. Right?
 
(who dies, you ask? Everyone who didn't vote for Pavel!)
 
at least the winner's vote count is correct
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A: Naming the Tavern

Nick Meta The Foo Bar

 

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