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11:00 AM
OK. Anything specific you want posted?
 
Not really, if you have a game recommendation question I don't have to delete it, but it's not like the place is really crowded currently
I'm more like testing grounds to see how Reddit would hold them
 
Okay, wtf.
Your link appeared immediately in my "new" page this time
When I click on it, your post appears as "[removed]"
 
I don't see my own post in the lists
 
and now your post is gone from the home page
yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out
 
11:02 AM
I rarely post anything from my account, it shouldn't have to do with me
 
I tried to ask for help on Reddit itself and got no answer
I might want to ask on WebApps but I doubt they have many redditors there
 
is there such a thing as moderation-required subreddits?
where the post won't show up until it's approved
 
@DanGrossman I have a "mod" link on my top bar
Your post doesn't appear there.
 
but you're not a moderator of that subreddit
only bp_ and arienh4?
 
I started it...
← bp_
 
11:04 AM
oh so that's you
 
yeah.
 
no clue
the FAQ link at the site footer -> 404
that's useful
 
clicks through, stares the spinning throbber.
okay, /help/faq currently is a 404 :D
awesome.
 
so is /help
 
Okay, asking on webapps.
 
11:09 AM
 
Okay, I found your post, finally... under "Spam"
WTF?!
 
that's odd...
maybe i'm a spammer
 
11:42 AM
Apparently there's automated spam detection
I find it hard to believe it triggered on your post too
You do have quite the karma.
 
on the other hand, looking back at my account, some of the posts 4 years ago look somewhat spammy
when I first joined reddit I submitted links to my own blog posts occasionally, maybe there's a secret this guy is a spammer flag
my comments always show up, though...
 
 
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12:45 PM
I have the same problem, Dan, for the same reasons too. I used to submit my crappy blog posts too, but they never did well. I think it trained the system against me, because it seems like 90% of my submissions get caught in the spam filter now. I've more or less just given up.
I think the only thing you can do is ask a moderator to release you from the filter each time, and in theory reddit will learn to trust you again after mods repeatedly tell them you're ok.
 
1:15 PM
> Correctly formatted answers are happy answers! Format your code properly!
 
O_O
 
I just left this edit summary on an edit which consisted of adding a pair of backticks. God I'm bored.
 
Absolutely. Some people might not like it, but I always edit the hell out of code samples in questions if they don't look very nice. (without actually changing the code, of course)
Ok, I'm not anal on backticks. Most of the time inline code doesn't really need to be code formatted. Like who cares about the difference between "SELECT" and SELECT.
 
@AgentConundrum Actually, I do :P
 
I will, however, change an inline statement to be it's own line though
Like something like this: "I have this query SELECT foo FROM bar..."
I'll put the code on its own line. I just think it makes it more readable.
People can definitely go too far with editing though. I mean, one guy modified my answer recently because he didn't like my link.
I had used ca.php.net because that's the local mirror I'm directed to.
And he changed it to www.php.net instead.
When I asked him about it, he said he did it because someone else had already posted the link, and he wanted them to be consistent.
I just don't understand that thought process.
 
1:22 PM
I'd agree with that edit. Link to the main site, not a mirror.
 
@AgentConundrum Well there was once where Pekka posted one to the German version, accidentally
 
I wouldn't say that edit is "going too far" by any means.
 
Wouldn't that be de.php.net?
I just went there, and it was still the same english page. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
 
@AgentConundrum It is, except some part of it is in German. Which is weird
 
@RebeccaChernoff the only edit that is 'going too far' for me is one which changes the original meaning of the question
 
1:24 PM
Aye.
 
@RebeccaChernoff sqrt(-1)
 
@RebeccaChernoff I didn't rollback the change, because it didn't hurt the answer by any means. I just thought it was such a trivial thing. I mean, I guess I should link to the main site, but I don't always remember to change it. If I don't change it, then the only damage is that the page might take a fraction of a second longer to load.
 
@AgentConundrum, that's the entire point of community editing pretty much.
 
I just try to take care with my edits. If it's below a certain threshold, I just don't edit it. Especially with answers. I don't think I've ever edited an answer.
 
And to be truly picky, www.php.net is something that one can count on existing. Local mirrors are not. ca.php.net could disappear.
 
1:27 PM
My edits consist mostly of cleaning up code formatting, and fixing broken English.
Fair enough, but I doubt ca.php.net is going to disappear anytime soon.
 
That's why I said to be truly picky (;
Maybe they need more and make 2 local mirrors and name them something different.
 
I was just mildly annoyed that he had edited it for something I thought was trivial. I would never make that edit, but if he wants to be the mirror police, then he's welcome to it. I'm fine with any edit so long as it doesn't alter the meaning of my post.
 
In any situation where ca.php.net disappears, it is just as likely the page on www.php.net disappeared too. Either php.net will still be around and they'll point that subdomain somewhere if EasyDNS stops hosting it, or whatever reason ca.php.net is gone would be significant enough that the page on www.php.net is moved too, like a complete information architecture change.
 
@AgentConundrum What you think is trivial may not be trivial to someone else.
@DanGrossman shush you, play along! q:
 
I think I just said that.
 
1:30 PM
No, you said mirror police.
 
To me, that has a negative connotation.
 
I use it in jest.
 
You also said 'mildly annoyed'
 
Just like "Grammar Nazi"
 
1:31 PM
I can't tell if you're smiling or glowering angrily from the small version of your avatar, @RebeccaChernoff
Perhaps both
 
Right, and I was mildly annoyed. I also didn't rollback the edit.
 
@DanGrossman It's usually a smile, but since it's her you might want to be careful - it could also be a frown
 
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Q: Centering a Loading... spinner.gif using jQuery

awrigleyThe Setup I have designed a very easy to use MVC wizard. The cherry on the cake is a spinner gif that will appear when I change wizard step. I want it to center on the page, regardless of the size of the browser window. You can see an example of this at: Sample Wizard PLEASE DON'T COMPLETE ...

> PLEASE DON'T COMPLETE THE WIZARD, UNLESS YOU HAVE ENCEPHALITIS...
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Erm...
 
@YiJiang, that demands a star :)
 
1:36 PM
Well, it is an encephalitis...club? It might look like an odd warning, but you can understand why they wouldn't want non-encephaliti to sign up.
 
@AgentConundrum Yes, but it's a little... obvious, right?
 
:fills out form:
 
Sure, but you can't blame them for being a bit overprotective.
 
Answers "I am a professional with interest in encephalitis"
 
"I don't have encephalitis, but I am interested in acquiring some."
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I shouldn't joke. My grandfather had a stroke (followed by a bunch of smaller strokes, apparently), and brain problems are not a joking matter.
 
1:40 PM
@AgentConundrum "$20 for one high quality encephalitis. Selling like hotcakes. While stock last"
 
Sweet! My first star!
3
 
Where's the I'm about to go to sleep for more than 4 hours and need to leave a long script running, so go the frack away button?
 
@AgentConundrum A shiny 'Talkative' badge awaits you on MSO
 
open the command promt, and type shutdown -r -t 00 ;)
 
@DanGrossman Well it won't shut down the computer without you actually pressing the 'Restart now' button, and since you can't get annoyed without been at the computer, just ignore it
 
1:42 PM
I just saw that. Shame it wasn't for SO.
I can't say I care too much about meta badges.
I care more than I should about badges on SO though.
 
@YiJiang Yes, it will restart the computer if I don't tell it to postpone
 
It's at the point where I get annoyed when someone upvotes me before they accept my answer.
 
it only wasn't counting down because I already postponed it before taking the screenshot
 
Damn you Tenacious badge!
 
@DanGrossman (frowns) No it doesn't. Does it? Erm...
 
1:44 PM
@YiJiang yea it does
 
in 4 hours it'll pop up again and give me 4 minutes to click postpone again
but i'll be asleep, so it'll reboot on me
 
speaking of which ... pretty sure last nights windows update borked my home machine
made me very sad
 
This is why I don't let Windows apply updates on its own.
I have enough issues with this laptop without an update borking it while I'm passed out.
 
@AgentConundrum yea ... i just have better things to do with my time than babysit windows updates and have just kinda gotten used to the fact that windows gets borked all the time
well that and I really only use my home machine for gaming and some web browsing most of my heavy duty stuff is on my laptop
 
I have too much free time.
 
1:47 PM
haha well in that case go forth and patch by hand ;)
 
Just changed my screen name on MSO. Considering doing the same on regular SO.
 
@RebeccaChernoff have you given up even pretending to care about transfering knowledge yet??
 
I think the only thing stopping me is all the old @Agent comments will become meaningless.
I love transferring knowledge.
That's why all my answers are needlessly, ridiculously verbose.
 
@Zypher She has yet to found an upside down USB cable capable of fitting in her USB port
3
 
I like C4 for that job
 
2:00 PM
You would think, with a site this large, that the chat rooms would be more lively.
 
@AgentConundrum it ebbs and flows ... if you look at the landing page you'll see an activity graph
i think it normally picks up round 10-11 eastern and again at like 3-4 eastern ...
 
This is the quietest time in the (my) day
 
This is the busiest this room has been for hours
I'm here when I see the "last message posted 2 hours ago..." messages
 
yeah, shut up everyone, I can't hear myself type :)
 
2:04 PM
@Agent, sorry, I'm not in China, but yt is blocked here :(
 
Damn\
 
@Benjol It's "The Relaxing Sound of Typing"
@DanGrossman Is it bad that immediately recognize that from reddit?
 
;)
"Time to get classy"
 
2:06 PM
@Zypher, 'Access Denied',
 
Yeah, though I thought it was something like "lets get classy, reddit"
 
@Zypher, too popular, links to 30 second advertisement.
 
damn
ah well
i had no motivation to find an actual good one
 
It's surprising how classy it really is.
 
hmm ooo
rick astly hold music ...
 
2:13 PM
Even better, the Rickroll NES game: youtube.com/watch?v=b1WWpKEPdT4
 
@DanGrossman ...it won't. It doesn't for me.
@DanGrossman oh, nevermind, I never had this happen to me :)
@Benjol I like that new ":/" message
 
ehrm...e*trade is scaring me
it showed me having a $5,000 loss since yesterday
but it's because they're showing one of my stocks as worth $0 when everyone else says $43
 
$0, eh? I'll give you $0.01 for them
 
exchange opens in 4 minutes, my account better fix itself
 
2:29 PM
This is so much better than what it replaced.
No bogus suggestions, some human feelings, a short apology and the conveying of them not making or approving this decision.
I'm pleasantly surprised.
 
2:49 PM
@Zypher Huh?
 
@RebeccaChernoff final days at work
 
oooooooh
Who said I ever cared? Heh. I know they need to know, doesn't mean I wanna go through everything. >_<
 
ha
 
First I need my migraine to go away enough that I can drive in to work. Heh.
 
E*Trade fixed itself, I've no longer lost $5000 for no reason.
Now I can get a few hours of sleep
 
2:59 PM
@DanGrossman glad to hear it. have a good rest.
 
@radp tl;dr;
 
3:21 PM
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A: Java or Perl? Which should I learn and why?

Peter LawreyPossible duplicate of Learning Perl or Java for Object Oriented Programming (OOP)

That user is above 10K, and they didn't even vote to close. The hell.
 
Hello
 
@TimStone The stuff I see high-rep users do amazes me
 
Yeah... sighs
 
@MichaelMrozek Like create a Tavern?
Where we talk about absolutely nothing?
and reduce the amount of productivity in the world by vast quantities?
 
@radp funny webcomic and sadly truthful
 
3:24 PM
oo oo PERL!
no JAVA!
no PERL!
JARL
 
Neither!
Assembly then C
Without understanding those you won't appreciate the power of Ruby OR Rails :p
 
Here's a question:
If you have 3 monitors, all different resolutions, which monitor resolution do you get tracked with under analytics
 
The one where the browser is I think
 
and if it spans two monitors?
 
Good question, should be on SO
I imagine the one where the lefthand side of the browser is
 
3:28 PM
I think it's the "Primary monitor" (i.e. monitor #1)
 
We obviously need a jsfiddle but I'm on mobile
 
I think it combines the monitors, actually. Even if they have the same resolution
 
The SE inbox needs to be redesigned, I think.
 
Oh, like 2 1280x1024 = 2560 x 2048, that could be, I've seen stuff like that in analytics reports
 
If you have two different messages, clicking one marks them all as read.
 
3:30 PM
@Jesse howso?
 
I keep coming back to multiple messages, clicking the first one, then forgetting the rest exist.
I should open everything in new tabs at once, but sometimes you forget..
 
I generally open them all in new tabs
 
I open them all too ;)
 
Guess it's just me then.... disregard.
I'm probably just overtired. Haven't slept yet.
 
Make it a MSO post, may not be just you
 
3:34 PM
I do tend to miss if there are multiple comments grouped under one post/room; if it says "4" on the button I click the first four links automatically
 
That was fast. Jeff has already essentially delined.
 
I have a question?
 
I tend to agree with Jeff, but I also agree with your request...
 
@AshutoshSingh i have an answer?
 
3:49 PM
sigh come on.. just one more upvote then I can take a nap
@AshutoshSingh I just saw your question. I just thought I'd mention that there's someone on the site with a Legendary badge (a feat which requires you to accumulate a minimum of 30k rep) who now only has ~2k
Apparently it was 3,419 rep. This is the user
 
4:06 PM
I massively disagree with Jeff, but gave up arguing about it ages ago
I dream of a stackoverflow.com/prefs filled with thousands of options
 
Yeah, I used to like him, but I've been since noticed a very "iron fist" vibe from him.
I mean, he can run his site however he wants, but.. I dunno.
 
So .. someone forgot to pay the bill on my hosting account..
And now I can't access an of my sites, or log into the backend..
 
It was probably @RebeccaChernoff
 
Ouch.
 
> Help! My family cat died, but the problem is that I am trying to write fizz buzz with AmazingLanguage and it doesn't work. Please help me! KThxBye.
Somebody needs to post that on SO immediately
 
4:18 PM
Hey ):
 
@MichaelMrozek Well, I do have that dummy account for embarrassing questions...
 
Anyone here deal with Pair or PairLite before?
 
My account IS a dummy account for posting embarrassing questions...
 
I anyone else having view problems on Programmers?
 
@drachenstern At least your top voted question isn't "Should I find a new career?" like mine.
@LanceRoberts Just checked; no issues here.
 
4:29 PM
Is there a limit for mod flags? I've been on /review for 30 seconds and I've flagged four answers...
 
15 I think
I was wrong. It's 12. See the privileges page for close votes
 
@Zypher You think that's tl;dr? You should read our game-rec rants!
 
@JesseHartwick ...maybe I'm missing something, but is that not for close voting?
 
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, it is. Sorry.
The flag posts privilege page doesn't say anything about limits.
 
There is one for spam/offensive flags (30?); I'm not sure about mod flags
 
4:36 PM
I think you get to have 12 flags per day
Anyway, you should get warnings when you reach the limit, should you somehow manage to
 
@MichaelMrozek I wouldn't know. I just passed 3k rep this morning.
 
@JesseHartwick That has nothing to do with flags.
 
@JesseHartwick You've been able to flag posts since 15 rep :)
You've very stuck on close voting; this has nothing to do with close voting
 
I thought you were talking about the 10k tools when you said "mod flag"
 
3k really is the last rep milestone that matters
 
4:37 PM
but I guess you meant "flag for moderator review"
 
Mod flags are, unsurprisingly, for mods only
10k tools aren't even that important now that /review is public...
Spam and Offensive flags aren't common at all, and even then are not displayed on your user bar unlike mod flags.
 
@radp Although this is about the 9th time I've heard somebody confuse spam/offensive and mod flags, so apparently it's not at all clear
@radp Speak for yourself :P
 
@MichaelMrozek oh. They weren't when I had the 10k tools on Gaming.
 
@radp They're not, it's a userscript, I was just being difficult
 
Oh I see.
 
4:39 PM
why dont I get the flag thing?
 
I'm not sure what "the flag thing" is, but if you mean the screenshot I just posted, "it's a userscript"
 
@MichaelMrozek I envy the speed at which you posted that screenshot btw. I need roughly a minute myself to get one online.
 
@radp It helped that I already had it hosted. I used it in this answer:
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A: Show the number of flags beside the "tools" link for 10k users

Michael MrozekI use a greasemonkey script to get the desired effect: It's really simplistic but seems to work fine. source code, direct install link

 
Yeah, I guess it's kinda brutal, but then again you'd need an API with authentication to do it differently
 
@radp At one point I had a userscript that showed last mod activity for all mods in a bar on the right side; it did a separate GET request for every mod on the site. It killed page load times and got me blocked from SO multiple times for "too much activity from this IP"
 
4:52 PM
It's chirstmas!
 
Chirstmas > Christmas
 
Chrismas?
Rchernmas.
Wow.
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Q: Tag Sets on stackexchange.com now support email notifications

Jeff AtwoodTag sets on Stack Exchange now support emailing you as new questions arrive in your tag set. To set it up: visit the tag sets page at stackexchange.com browse someone else's tag set or establish your own tag set look in the right hand sidebar for the envelope to enable email options Rememb...

Go ahead. Humor me. Set it up for the C# tag.
Not even I think I could handle that much volume in my inbox.
 
Hello
I can't post a picture of muffin cat!!
dang it..
luckily Triton works offline
 
...it's okay we'll do without it somehow.
 
Need .... picture ... of ... muffin cat!
 
5:00 PM
I don't see the point of tag emails, personally. For the sort of questions I'm capable of answering, odds are that the question will have a decent answer within 3 minutes or so (though I've been able to get the accept even then because I write really detailed, most people would say "long winded", answers).
I'm sure there are people who will love this feature, but it's not for me.
oh?
 
@JesseHartwick Yeah, if you've been following my posts, my hosting wasn't paid and now I'm waiting to get it live again
I'm trying to get together posts on programming so that I can actually make something useful to people
 
Ah. I didn't remember it was you who had written about that.
 
anyone have any blog post ideas they would like to read?
 
I've tried that a couple times, trying to write a PHP site from scratch and documenting it (appscanadian.ca), but I have a habit of putting it off and going long stretches without posting.
 
I am a plethora of knowledge on all of the modern programming methodologies
(AKA, I am a card-caring member of the people who have no life association)
 
5:06 PM
@JesseHartwick think: [django-errors] or something...
 
@TylerChacha I'd really like to see more "ground up" type posts. Give the newbies (myself included) something to read to learn how to build something "professional" from scratch.
 
@TylerChacha properly and quickly setting up IIS6 and IIS7 on sibling servers to work the same? :p
 
Tutorials don't really give you the skills to put it all together.
 
@drachenstern PROGRAMMING methodologies..
 
5:08 PM
@drachenstern Point taken. I mainly watch mainstream tags like [php] [mysql] [css], so I wasn't really thinking about the more niche tags
 
@TylerChacha yeah yeah, but I was saying what I would like to read :p ;) ~ It's actually one of my most viewed questions, I need to do a writeup on it (got me a silver badge it did)
 
People should upvote that answer to Jeff's post
it is a very good answer
 
lol
rep whoring on a MSO post, really?
 
I got an upvote from someone and a downvote from @RebeccaChernoff
@JesseHartwick I really don't care about RepWhoring. I just think it would be funny if an answer that short got a lot of upvotes
 
@TylerChacha I was just kidding.
 
5:14 PM
@JesseHartwick Building a Blog 101:
Step 1: Make a script to communicate with MySQL
Step 2: Make a script that outputs a post given a $_GET ID number
 
@TylerChacha two downvotes? gah!
 
Step 3: Make a script to display a list of posts
Step 4: Theme it
Step 5: Profit
 
Well, I just slammed head first into the rep cap. Now.. to nap, or not to nap. That is the question.
 
@JesseHartwick congrats
 
Thanks. This is my fourth time. Third time hitting the hard cap. It's still new and exciting to me...
 
5:22 PM
@TylerChacha Huh?
 
yawns Ugh
 
I've managed to get 6k in Gaming without losing precious reps to that pesky cap!
My reps, they are mine, all mine. <3
 
I'm up to 221, hooray!
 
It is disheartening to see [0] next to a reputation item.
So much so that I tried to fix it
 
5:43 PM
lol .. everyone is downvoting me .. thats funny
 
You're only at -2. That's only two people.
 
3
There is an upvote
 
(I can't see the up/down totals, since I'm low-rep on MSO)
 
What are we down voting you for? :P
 
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Q: Tag Sets on stackexchange.com now support email notifications

Jeff AtwoodTag sets on Stack Exchange now support emailing you as new questions arrive in your tag set. To set it up: visit the tag sets page at stackexchange.com browse someone else's tag set or establish your own tag set look in the right hand sidebar for the envelope to enable email options Rememb...

 
5:45 PM
how would you like to manage the database to keep track of these pupies? j.mp/fIzxeB
 
Ah :P
 
WHAT THE HECK!!!!!
303 people are following my Google Reader shared thing!!!
 
scroll out on my link
 
@drachenstern That's...a lot of planes.
 
And I haven't updated it in like a year...
I just don't get it..
 
5:50 PM
also, when did they update googlemaps?
 
@TylerChacha post something on it to piss them off
 
There just aren't enough closers on Programmers, I feel like I'm drowning in a sea of vagueness.
 
and your problem gets solved istantly.
 
I really hope this form of advertising doesn't catch on.
(something really needs to be done to make links stand out better in chat. I can barely tell my link is there. stupid colourblindness.)
 
Oh wow, it's snowing outside.
 

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