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3:00 PM

^---> @MichaelMrozek

radp

Chacha102

Hello

Yi Jiang

@radp Skype uses it's own protocol, doesn't it?

radp

@YiJiang yep.

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@radp and @MichaelMrozek if I were way more skilled than I am now, I could build into XMPP edit and delete support

radp

3:04 PM

@TheUnhandledException wouldn't that mean changing the protocol?

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that's what's so great about XMPP -- Extensible Messenging and Presence protocol

Chacha102

@TheUnhandledException If I were a monkey, I could have a banana right now.

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@radp it can be extended :-D

radp

oh. right. :)

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But, it means the clients would have to be rewritten also

radp

3:04 PM

but would a client support this ext---

yeah. I was afraid so.

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It's all XML, so it's not like some crazy, reverse-engineering task, but

Yi Jiang

2

A: "Hello world" as a Gmail plugin?

You cannot create Gmail plugins. (Unless you work for Google)

Benjol

@YiJiang, hi

rchern

''orning.

Yi Jiang

@rchern '''orning

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3:19 PM

Hey @rchern

Benjol

@rchern What do I do now? I'm all out of github-fu - how do I update my fork to point to your last commit?

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Argh, I need to rework the problem report form from our system's admin...

rchern

@YiJiang (;

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We have a "Report problem" link in the admin of our software which generates a dump of the environment and sends it to the development team... but no matter how I word it, or how I tell people about it, people keep using it for basic support requests...

Like, "How can I change my email address?"

rchern

@Benjol merge?

Yi Jiang

3:21 PM

Anyway, why is Google giving me elvish (or something)

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@TheUnhandledException "If you use this form for something that is not an advanced development issue, your account will be permanently closed and your credit card charged a non-refundable fee of $500."

Yi Jiang

Benjol

@rchern, on github, or locally? Really opaque for me at the moment

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@PopularDemand You are a genius!!!

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Heck, just do the credit card thing and tell the devs that it's fake.

Tim Stone

3:22 PM

yawns

rchern

@MichaelMrozek pffft q:

Yi Jiang

Oh this is brilliant...

rchern

?

Yi Jiang

rchern

WebApps.SE to the rescue!

(as soon as I find the question I'm looking for...)

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Q: Google: what language is chr, and why is my homepage set there?

For reasons I can't fathom, my Google searches keep ending up at http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=chr. What language is 'chr' (I don't why I can't find this by searching Google, but I can't)? More importantly, how do I stop it? (Note: going to 'settings' and setting my language to 'English' was no...

radp

3:28 PM

@rchern comment posted as answer

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A: Google: what language is chr, and why is my homepage set there?

Yes Tim! The Chrome thing was the problem. I guess the problem was using Xmarks with all browsers together at first, then switching to FireFox Sync. The FireFox Sync add-on saves and misinterprets the Google Chrome settings leading to this funny problem. Another question: did you all use Window...

go go lecture!

Joe Philllips

why dont proposals have shorter urls... grrr

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"What language is chr"? @rchern, you have your own language?

radp

@JoePhilllips goo.gl

Yi Jiang

@rchern Amazingly, I think I saw that question before. I just didn't associate that with the problem I'm having now

rchern

I remember clicking on the link that is in the question and seeing the characters. I knew they looked familiar when you posted your screenshot

Benjol

3:31 PM

@rchern, help to the rescue :
git remote add upstream git://github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts.git
git pull upstream master

radp

awesome image:

Joe Philllips

does it bother anyone else when url shorteners use lowercase L or capital i in the urls? It makes it impossible to copy it via eyeballs

Yi Jiang

Hmmm... none of the answers seem to fit

I don't know why Google thinks I'm in Native American territory

Nor am I using XMarks

radp

@YiJiang One answer/comment does mention a Firefox bug.

rchern

@radp webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/5042/… suitable?

radp

3:33 PM

@rchern Yeah, I wish there were better ways to handle these situations.

Perhaps a regexp to catch those messages and show a warning in a similar vein to the "likely to be closed" warning?

...except there's no answer title and I'm not sure they can be caught via regexps at all.

Yi Jiang

@radp The bug is the one about Firefox Sync

rchern

In this case, user has only visited 1 day and hasn't been back since.

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Who wants to build a castle?

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Q: Allow specifying sites for the new tag formatting (at least, to some degree)

The new ability to apply special formatting to tags in questions and answers is great! But I'd like to make a feature-request and hopefully not get shot for this horrendous abuse. Can we allow some level of site specification for this? I can see that being able to specify any SE site would be pr...

feature-request tags formatting

rchern

So the comment won't do much.

Yi Jiang

Which isn't the problem I have right now - I just checked language, and all is fine

Tim Stone

3:38 PM

@YiJiang I suspect that Google has started to form a partnership with StackOverflow, the deal breaker being that Google has to enforce "Singapore: UNSUPPORTED "

Yi Jiang

Okay, I changed search settings. Hope this will be permanent

@TimStone Hmmm... you're right, that's probably also why they're selling Android phones here eight months after their US release

Benjol

back later... off to the park with MiniMe :)

Tim Stone

Of course.

Heh, it was funny, the Europeans who came over for the conference I was at all made a side trip to the Apple store so they could buy iPads for the same reason (well, that, and the fact that the Euro is crushing the US dollar right now, so the price ends up working out better for them).

Yi Jiang

Oh dear:

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Q: Allow specifying sites for the new tag formatting (at least, to some degree)

The new ability to apply special formatting to tags in questions and answers is great! But I'd like to make a feature-request and hopefully not get shot for this horrendous abuse. Can we allow some level of site specification for this? I can see that being able to specify any SE site would be pr...

feature-request tags formatting

@PopularDemand Stop giving them ideas!

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@YiJiang whistles innocently

Tim Stone

3:46 PM

Reminds me of the SO question where someone wanted to show that they could make an entire keyboard layout using the key tags..

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@TimStone I think that was the same question where the castle was posted. There were two keyboards, one with proper spacing, one without.

rchern

which keyboard layout? (;

Tim Stone

The normal one ;)

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This is hard without monospaced font.

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A: Formatting Sandbox

Some Grace Note-inspired abuse: i like this and my first thought was meta-parent linking as you said furthermore i think that it might be good to enable some other very related sites perhaps using the same algorithm used by the close menu ...

Will delete that in a minute or two.

Tim Stone

Hahah :P

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3:59 PM

Tim Stone

@rchern Are you aware that Stack Flair is broken?

Fosco

!

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In other news, I just passed a CAPTCHA in which the second word was upside-down. Thanks, fliptext.com!

rchern

@TimStone Ummm, I was not.

status-norepro

Tim Stone

Did you change something, or did it really just decide to start working? :P

rchern

4:03 PM

Haha. I did not change anything.

Tim Stone

Damn you SO API, damn you!

Yi Jiang

@TimStone She used her lopsided frown on the server!

Tim Stone

Hahah

But yeah, the JSON parser was complaining about a "<" showing up, so I imagine the API wasn't returning JSON, or something? Iunno, works for me now as well.

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@balpha Done.

Tim Stone

Done

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4:07 PM

Oh hey, the flag icon lights up red after you've flagged someone.

balpha

thanks

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Is that blue thingamabobber by design once a message has been flagged?

rchern

@TimStone Possible. github.com/rchern/StackFlair/issues#issue/6

Tim Stone

Ah, nifty. :)

balpha

@PopularDemand SyntaxError: "thingamabobber" could not be parsed

Yi Jiang

4:12 PM

@balpha Hey, mind clearing the flags? That blue thingadingdong is really distracting

Tim Stone

s/mabobber/dongdong/

radp

@PopularDemand refresh the page and you'll see a flag counter in case anybody else has flagged it.

rchern

(:

radp

btw did I get kicked out of here while I was offline for a minute? :)

when I reconnected I saw messages loading, then a redirect to the room list.

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@radp Interesting. Too late for this one though, as it's been deleted.

radp

4:15 PM

to be fair the same happened in Bridge, so it probably wasn't a kick.

Yi Jiang

@radp @balpha: globalKick(radp)

radp

wow, there's an object named after me?

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@radp Everything's becoming more Michael Mrozek-y.

19 hours ago, by Michael Mrozek

I see you all as objects

Thank goodness I'm far from Indiana, and, therefore, potential real-life encounters with him.

Fosco

lol

balpha

@radp are you sure it was just a minute? auto-kick needs 10 minutes offline

radp

4:20 PM

@balpha "a minute" was figuratively speaking. I don't see why auto-kick is required at all however.

Chat is so good at catching up...

The kick also did not avoid the catching up from happening.

balpha

@radp because if you're not in the room, why should you make everyone else believe you're there?

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@PopularDemand That formatting sandbox onebox broke XMPP again...

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@TheUnhandledException You're welcome.

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LOL

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Buy me some German food sometime, and we'll call it even.

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4:22 PM

Will do, next time I'm in your area (where I never have been, but...)

radp

@balpha Couldn't I just be shown to rejoin the channel then after this long break then?

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@balpha What is this auto-timeout you speak of?

radp

Or maybe have the chat stop trying after 10 minutes of unsuccessful updates.

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@TheUnhandledException If you leave the chat, your avatar drops off of the list of people in the room after ten minutes.

rchern

I think it is like a ping timeout on irc. If you don't ping home after 10 minutes, the server considers you gone. At least, that's how I've interpreted it.

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4:23 PM

Oh. yeah, ok, I knew that

That's why I try to stay in chat all the time even if I'm AFK, and update my "about me status"

radp

@rchern That's fine, I'm just commenting what happens when you do come back

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which I forget to do sometimes because I now have 5 of them

rchern

@radp, what do you mean?

radp

1. Lose connectivity for 10 minutes, do not touch the browser.
2. Return online
What happens is, chat loads everything that happened in the last 10 minutes, then kicks you out to the room list.

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Well I'll be... it was   that was breaking XMPP

balpha

4:26 PM

@radp funnily enough, if you stay offline longer, it might work as you expect :)

rchern

@radp Hmm. That I have not seen.

Tim Stone

I think that the kicking you out may be unrelated, as I've had it happen before (but not most of the time)

Actually one time I was kicked out of every channel, and I was online the entire time (I guess, I wasn't at my computer). :P

radp

@TimStone That was just diago having a power trip :P

(not really, just kidding)

Tim Stone

Hahah :P

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OK @PopularDemand, now try to break it! :-)

You'll still be able to, but I made it more robust by stripping   s from the XML stream

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4:30 PM

Huh, this question is tagged [support] [tags] [tags].

Fosco

≥…„›˝˙≈ﬂ

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Must be a side effect of synonimization.

rchern

only 2 tags?

you saying that reminded me that I saw one this morning that had [tags] x 3. I just realized I clicked away from it forgetting about it though.

Josh's Socks

Nice try though Mr. Fosco!

Fosco

> ŽÅLGÕ

Josh's Socks

4:32 PM

Nope :-)

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2 days ago, by radp

6 mins ago, by radp

►

Tim Stone

Hahahah, WTF is that user icon?

Josh's Socks

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Oct 1 at 14:51, by Diago

→ 18 messages moved to Chat feedback

Josh's Socks

@TimStone Adium, an IM client for OS X:

Tim Stone

4:33 PM

That...disturbs me.

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Oct 31 at 15:29, by radp

in XMPP, 5 mins ago, by rchern

var M = {
        MessagePosted: 1,
        MessageEdited: 2,
        UserEntered: 3,
        UserLeft: 4,
        RoomNameChanged: 5,
        MessageStarred: 6,
        DebugMessage: 7,
        UserMentioned: 8,
        MessageFlagged: 9,
        MessageDeleted: 10,
        FileAdded: 11,
        ModeratorFlag: 12,
        UserSettingsChanged: 13,
        GlobalNotification: 14,
        AccessLevelChanged: 15,
        UserNotification: 16,
        Invitation: 17,
        MessageReply: 18,
        MessageMovedOut: 19,

Josh's Socks

@TimStone When you get an IM, the duck flaps it's wings

@PopularDemand Loses most of the formatting in Adium, but no crash!

Fosco

nice work Josh!

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dances

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@TheUnhandledException ");DROP TABLE(REPOSITORY);--

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4:34 PM

@Fosco Thanks! :-)

@PopularDemand ...where'd my sockpuppet go?

;-)

Fosco

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@Fosco Nope. Shows in XMPP exactly as it does here :-)

Fosco

how'd that one render, josh?

daaaamn

Josh's Socks

Yi Jiang

in Sandbox, Oct 23 at 0:09, by Yi Jiang

in Sandbox on Stack Overflow Chat, 18 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

6 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

8 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

7 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

8 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

6 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

8 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

7 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

6 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

Hello world

Quote pyramid!

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4:36 PM

Anyone tried U+200? I don't know how to type it, but it always wreaks havoc with comments.

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AHAHAHAHAHA

Josh's Socks

The pyramid effect is lost, but the stream connection remains!

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1 hour ago, by Yi Jiang

我们不支持新加坡!

radp

@PopularDemand he's working with XML

so you should try

Josh's Socks

radp

4:37 PM

<transaction><action>delete</action><target><everything/></target><policies><prejudice level="extreme"></policies></transaction>

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@TheUnhandledException XMPP: Supported!

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@radp Nice try but it renders exactly like that

@PopularDemand Haha, awesome, thanks :-)

radp

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What will probably break it is other HTML entities:

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A: Using Ruby, how can I confirm that an XML snippit is valid?

The actual error in this case is your  . According to XEP-0071, section 8, point 5: Section 11.1 of XMPP Core stipulates that character entities other than the five general entities defined in Section 4.6 of the XML specification (i.e., <, >, &, ', and...

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Well, if I can't break you, I can still punish you.

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4:39 PM

waits for an →

radp

*I pity the foo

Josh's Socks

@PopularDemand I think you meant: foo

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I meant: foo

radp

well? what happened to gist oneboxing?

Yi Jiang

@PopularDemand +1 for effort

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4:41 PM

@PopularDemand HAHAHA

radp

Oct 17 at 21:03, by radp

gist: 631092, 2010-10-17 18:11:14Z

so_live.user.js

Oct 1 at 16:42, by Tim Robinson

gist: 606459, 2010-10-01 16:42:26Z

gistfile1.bas

10 PRINT "HELLO"
20 GOTO 10

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Woo, starred-list hat trick!

Josh's Socks

radp

@JoshsSocks ha! I broke it :P

Yi Jiang

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4:43 PM

:-)

OK, lunchtime, bbl!

radp

lateq

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@JoshsSocks c'mon, it's cold outside, get on my feet!

Josh's Socks

@TheUnhandledException ...okay...

radp

1F000	🀀	🀁	🀂	🀃	🀄	🀅	🀆	🀇	🀈	🀉	🀊	🀋	🀌	🀍	🀎	🀏
1F010	🀐	🀑	🀒	🀓	🀔	🀕	🀖	🀗	🀘	🀙	🀚	🀛	🀜	🀝	🀞	🀟
1F020	🀠	🀡	🀢	🀣	🀤	🀥	🀦	🀧	🀨	🀩	🀪	🀫
1F030	🀰	🀱	🀲	🀳	🀴	🀵	🀶	🀷	🀸	🀹	🀺	🀻	🀼	🀽	🀾	🀿
1F040	🁀	🁁	🁂	🁃	🁄	🁅	🁆	🁇	🁈	🁉	🁊	🁋	🁌	🁍	🁎	🁏
1F050	🁐	🁑	🁒	🁓	🁔	🁕	🁖	🁗	🁘	🁙	🁚	🁛	🁜	🁝	🁞	🁟
1F060	🁠	🁡	🁢	🁣	🁤	🁥	🁦	🁧	🁨	🁩	🁪	🁫	🁬	🁭	🁮	🁯
1F070	🁰	🁱	🁲	🁳	🁴	🁵	🁶	🁷	🁸	🁹	🁺	🁻	🁼	🁽	🁾	🁿
1F080	🂀	🂁	🂂	🂃	🂄	🂅	🂆	🂇	🂈	🂉	🂊	🂋	🂌	🂍	🂎	🂏
1F090	🂐	🂑	🂒	🂓
1F0A0
1F0B0

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4:45 PM

Lame, wikibooks doesn't onebox. Now I've lost the race to shove 80 obscure Unicode characters at a time down XMPP's throat to radp.

Yi Jiang

Cool. Are these dominoes?

radp

@YiJiang I think there's proper unicode support for dominoes

if all else fails, there's APL.

later.

Tim Stone

@JoshsSocks Hahah

balpha

Looks like the SO diff engine actually has a sense of humor

Tim Stone

Heh :P

Yi Jiang

5:00 PM

I'm not sure if I get the humor

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I get it, it's just not funny.

rchern

The resulting text is The question is removed. Goodbye.

Yi Jiang

Well yeah, but isn't that what diff is suppose to do? Oh...

balpha

Well, I had to chuckle when I saw the diff.

then again, I'm known to be weird ;)

rchern

Then again, it could all just be a hoax since you linked to a screenshot, not the actual revision. (;

</conspiracy theory>

Tim Stone

5:08 PM

@rchern Photoshop is a lie!

balpha

meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/69485/revisions

rchern

Damn. Now I have to find another reason to call shenanigans.

Michael Mrozek

@rchern He's a dev, he probably edited it in the database before linking to it

Yi Jiang

@rchern That the user serg is really one of @balpha's sock puppets, and did all these just to annoy @MichaelMrozek?

Tim Stone

@YiJiang +1, this seems most likely

rchern

5:12 PM

So...I'm on a conference call. Listening to someone type. There was 30 seconds of speaking at the beginning of the call and the last 10 minutes have just been the guy typing. Typing loudly.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone About as likely as @AidenBell assassinating JFK, that's for sure

Michael Mrozek

@rchern You have too many conference calls

Tim Stone

It has all the necessary elements to be fact...the unnecessary complexity, the red text....the annoying @MichaelMrozek

@YiJiang Ah yes, I've heard that he was the iceberg that sunk the Titanic. Glad he's finally come clean on that one.

rchern

Well, we're supposed to be having a discussion. And the discussion is needed. I'm just not sure what we're doing now, ha.

Yi Jiang

@rchern Talk to him through IM, since he likes typing so much

balpha

5:14 PM

It appears to me you're typing as well, @rchern...

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@balpha She's muted her mic, though, so it's okay.

Yi Jiang

@balpha Clickerty clack! Clickerty clack!

Michael Mrozek

I once had somebody on the phone accuse me of just pressing random keys on the keyboard as fast as I could to make it sound like I type fast

David Fullerton

@rchern I made you a featurez meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/69237/…

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek But really you were pressing random keys as fast as possible just to annoy them, right?

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5:16 PM

@MichaelMrozek To be fair, that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd do if you couldn't type quickly.

Yi Jiang

@MichaelMrozek Whatonh hd ? What fdhwuef were ofhw you saaying? I;m -jfjie don't ie do that ? fjiefjdwdcd no, I kd deny it DQF SDF

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@DavidFullerton You can haz wrath of Jeff!

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone Through years of practice I've honed many ways to be far more annoying than that

David Fullerton

@PopularDemand Jeff told me "fine, I don't have strong feelings about it"

rchern

@balpha Yes, but I'm just a minor participant in the call. Not the person who's supposed to be leading it. And I also don't hammer each key when I type.

Tim Stone

5:18 PM

@MichaelMrozek This is true, I'm ashamed of myself for implying you'd pick such an unrefined technique.

Yi Jiang

I actually enjoy the sound the keyboard makes as I do "asdfasdfadfafasfdafasdfafasfasdfassdf... "

balpha

@rchern I assume you have added keyboard shortcuts to skype, so you don't actually have to talk

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Tim Stone

@DavidFullerton That was just to buy him time to fish out the giant [tag]

Yi Jiang

@balpha /activate rchernBot

Tim Stone

@rchern Just pipe the audio out into Skype and we'll start pinging you repeatedly, maybe that'll get their attention.

rchern

5:20 PM

@DavidFullerton +1! I agree with you. Tag sets are really for the sites you don't live in, but you might like to visit there once in a while. << This describes cooking for me, but I don't have tags on cooking I'd want to limit things to.

it isn't a Skype call.

@balpha hahahahaha

Tim Stone

Oh, why did everyone keep implying that? :P

Yi Jiang

@rchern Well then, even easier. Just dial your computer's speaker volume up to 11 and turn on chat's notification sound

Michael Mrozek

@rchern Say "STAR" out loud every time someone says something you agree with

rchern

@TimStone people like to imply things about me. thinks of beta chat passwords |:

Tim Stone

@rchern Right, right, but that was fact. ;)

I do sympathize about the conference call though, half the time when I'm talking to my boss, someone will call him on his cell phone and he'll start talking to them instead, heh.

Yi Jiang

5:25 PM

Oh look, I have 1351 reps. Time to down vote Jeff's posts again so that my reps remains a multiple of 5

Tim Stone

Hahah

rchern

Oh look, @YiJiang has a rep that's a multiple of 5. Time to downvote.

Yi Jiang

@rchern OY!!

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Michael Mrozek

Oh, chat, one day when there are no witnesses I'll make you wish you'd never rejected a single one of my edits

Feeds

@MichaelMrozek You don't scare me

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rchern

5:28 PM

): Feeds' gravatar didn't show.

balpha

fixed already

still had the old sstatic address

rchern

\o/

Yi Jiang

@Feeds the chat fights back!

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I need to dig out my old IBM 8086 clickety clackety keyboard.

"QuietKey" keyboards are a waste unless they're completely silent, which they never are.

Michael Mrozek

@Feeds We need a dedicated feeds user for messages like that

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rchern

5:34 PM

This call has turned into the following:
Them: We get an error using your code.
Me: You're not using it like I showed you in the code samples (that are really actual implementations they can just use instead of partial samples *grumble*)
Them: Ok, let me **clack clackity clack** away for 5 minutes. It still doesn't work.
Me: Are you doing <x>?
Them: No.
Me: The readme says to do <x>.
<rinse and repeat and repeat and repeat>

balpha

maybe write him a greasemonkey script that does <x> for him...

Tim Stone

prepares the death ray robots

@balpha Or a userscript that replaces the user.

rchern

hehehe

radp

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rchern

@balpha The code they're trying to integrate is already doing A-Y for them and they just have to do Z pretty much.

Tim Stone

5:37 PM

Install User Replacement modifications?
This extension can access:
     Your soul

Michael Mrozek

When people complain about some part of their jobs and I offer to write a script to do it for them, I intend it to be friendly but it tends to come off as "you're easily replaceable you know"

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@TimStone Resource not found.

balpha

@rchern hmm... with that instruction, I'd be confused, too :)

rchern

The code they're integrating? People internally call it "the Rebecca file"

radp

Here, improved.

Michael Mrozek

5:39 PM

@rchern Who in the world is that? :)

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Damn unreliable dependencies

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@MichaelMrozek You could write a script that tells people that a script could do their jobs. Then you could ignore the dirty looks.

rchern

@MichaelMrozek some weirdo.

Tim Stone

@rchern Did you remember to tell them they have to type the command in backwards?

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catch (DirtyLookException e) {
    // drop it like it's hot
}

rchern

5:40 PM

@TimStone oy.

Michael Mrozek

catch(BackwardsSmileyException e) {
    // do nothing, they'll deal with it
}

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@rchern, customer or fellow dev?

radp

catch(PasswordLeakedException e){
  raise new WhyDidWeTrustRchernWhyOhGodWhyException();
}

Yi Jiang

@rchern .yo

rchern

@PopularDemand dev at 3rd party vendor

Yi Jiang

5:43 PM

@radp Proper capitalisation is important - ..RChernWhy...

Tim Stone

@rchern Just get them to install a backdoor so you can fix the issue yourself. ;)

radp

@YiJiang raise new ExceptionTooLateException()

Popular Demand

@TimStone They wouldn't be able to install the backdoor correctly.

It'd be hanging off of the ceiling, or something.

"There's an error in your code, we keep walking into the wall when we try to leave."

rchern

you don't understand. that's basically what I did. They need to include a couple javascript files, call a constructor, and call myObj.go() and they're done.

Tim Stone

Ah, there's your problem, there's three steps involved.

Popular Demand

5:45 PM

@rchern No disrespect, but... have you tried just saying that sentence?

radp

@PopularDemand they'll reply ReferenceError: myObj is not defined

Popular Demand

"Well, I could come onsite to fix it for you. $150/hr plus expenses."

rchern

I don't have high hopes. We've already dealt with having no clue what session was in terms of the web, and finding out they spent half a day figuring out how to get an <a> to open in a new window.

Tim Stone

@rchern This isn't... that company, right?

radp

@rchern hey at least they know what a session or an <a> tag is to begin with!

rchern

5:48 PM

@radp they knew session existed, they had no idea how to use it.

@TimStone ?

Popular Demand

To go back to square one, try calling it the "anchor tag."

Tim Stone

Different company than the one responsible for the rolling, timed sessions?

Yi Jiang

@rchern <a target="_new"> ? I can't remember the last time I used that

But hey, you're getting paid for it, right :)

rchern

Wahoo! Edit war! meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/69485/revisions

Yi Jiang

@rchern Haven't yet reached three rollbacks, so it doesn't qualify. Yet.

> We're preparing your download now. In the meantime, please watch this thing spin around and around:

Yah man! That's so hypnotising

radp

5:52 PM

I like how the ajax spinner was replaced by the other spinner.

Gives you a sense of progress.

You should make a spinner that cycles between four different spin styles :D

Tim Stone

@YiJiang Is it just me, or does it appear to be shifting position as it spins?

Popular Demand

@YiJiang I see four rollbacks.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone It does, yes. Hmm... it's stopped now

@PopularDemand My mistake, so it does now, eh... well, it's pretty mild compared to those Wikipedia ones

radp

@PopularDemand Added rollback and mod flag.

Popular Demand

@radp Aw, you collided with me.

Yi Jiang

5:55 PM

Is it CW yet?

Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars

Occasionally, even experienced lose their heads and devote every waking moment to over the most trivial thing. This page documents our lamest examples. It isn't comprehensive or authoritative, but it serves as a showcase of situations where people lose sight of the big picture and obsessively expend huge amounts of energy fighting over something that, in the end, isn't really so important. Back in the good old days, people would just get out their swords and guns and fight a duel; nowadays physical combat has been replaced by careful inciting of , strategic templating and , timely ...

radp

@PopularDemand your turn now

Michael Mrozek

> List of numbers that are always odd

2

radp

The scene is all yours.

Michael Mrozek

Am I confused about the definition of "odd number"?

Popular Demand

Wow, I had no idea there was a whole Wikipedia subculture.

Michael Mrozek

5:58 PM

Oh, it's descriptions of numbers that are always odd, like "The tenths digit of an FM radio station"

I was picturing a giant bulleted list with "1", "3", "5", etc.

rchern

haha

Yi Jiang

> Edit war over what pictures (if any) to include of an invisible parody deity, and how to caption them. [66][67][68][69][70] It is later decided to use an image of a pink unicorn silhouette with a gradient fading to invisible. Also included is an image of a pink unicorn with its alpha channel altered to form an invisible image of a pink unicorn.

> Should the font size for this userbox be 10pt or 14pt? 3rr violations, page protection, and vitriol spilling onto multiple talk pages ensue. Nobody is surprised. And then end result of the fight? - to make the text 12pt.

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