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12:00 AM
"Saving Up" read: waiting for money to save up
Could also be interpreted as: "Waiting for the money to fall into my lap"
@rchern you must have hit a global, I see money growing on the tree outside my office q:
so yay my wife got a speeding ticket on the way home, 17 over
fortunately courtdate is jan17, and she has no tickets in LA so no-lo-contendre should be applicable
12:15 AM
@rcern I tried that here and I got a syntax error... I think you meant $.money.growOn(tree) ?
@TheUnhandledException you're using the $.fn.forest aren't you? Yeah, can't see the trees in that one ...
@drachenstern tried $fn.forest.find(function(el){ return el instancof tree; }) ?
typo got in your way?
bah two typos but I'm on XMPP and can't edit,m you get the gist
yeah, I got it
12:20 AM
Using XMPP for the chat has made me re-realize how brilliantly the chat AJAX interface is coded :-)
isn't it tho?
and it's a first gen afaict
for the record: I hate cheap pens
do you ever just think "damn I'm really clever" on something you wrote 6 months ago and it turns out to be super handy?
Yes, I love that feeling :-)
hehehe, isn't it great?
Thinking "Damn, I'm really clever" sure beats the hell out of thinking "Man, what was I thinking when I wrote this?!?!? "
Which also happens to me sometimes ;-)
since we do analysis and reporting, and it's keyed (generally) on dates (amongst other things) one of our detail reports often may not have anything for the given date range. So we have another query that runs when that count is 0 and returns the most recent range. And then I stick that range into a sub div highlighted in red, backgrounded in paleyellow with a link that lets me jump to that range. It's nice and slick
and now I come across a page in desparate need of a rewrite :(
12:42 AM
Welcome @Margaret
1:03 AM
yey I broke 200 on gaming!
/me cheers
@TheUnhandledException congrats sir
I'm one organic point away from 200 on meta.so
I feel like that's a pretty good accomplishment
however on photos.se I'm 136 and that's only 35 points organic, so ...
I had to work really hard for my first 1k on meta
and then?
awww did I just get someone's sympathy vote on MSO?
1:08 AM
And the second 1.5k was like, people are upvoting that??
um, no, um, not me.... whistles, twidles thumbs, looks around
lol well thanks I suppose
93 more >_<
compulsively reload much @drachenstern ?
lol, no
surf pages much
1:18 AM
yay for commented out blocks of SQL that have no business being commented out ... :\
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2:46 AM
Yay Minecraft.
I've been meaning to check out Minecraft
but have lacked the time :-(
I've been meaning to check out Minecraft
But I have lacked a Credit Card
@YiJiang: have a PayPal account?
@TheUnhandledException It's kicking my ass. :P
3:03 AM
But it's fun
(realized I should have followed that up, heh)
Metroid Prime 3 was like that at first
Some of the early bosses were hard as f...
but was still fun
ug, working late nights is getting tiresome
Glad I have friends in the tavern to keep me company :-)
(hint: thats' everyone's cue to speak up and keep me entertained...)
@TheUnhandledException Yo dawg, wassup, wanna see somah, relly relly terible SO quessstions, yo?
HAHAHA, sure. WHat, do I just reload the home page to see sed horrible questions? :-)
Damn another typo I can't fix over XMPP
New game: star my typoss!
I should probably start coding, since I've spent the last hour or two playing Minecraft..
Now that it got you good and ready @Tim? :-)
What's on the docket?
3:12 AM
I also need to think up a name for this site at some point, but I guess that can wait until it's closer to being done...
I dunno, I have several things I could be doing, including work-work, but even that isn't super urgent.
Hahah, I don't think that fits the site's function, but maybe. ;)
It fits any function! Just take your pick: (-: /-: o= o-:< )': q-: {{(}^:
But yeah, I wrote (err...am in the process of writing) an engine in Java that mimics Apache's mod_rewrite. Originally I was going to make a desktop client, but then I remembered that I hate Swing and that didn't make much sense anyway, so now I'm throwing a web frontend on it. :P
3:16 AM
I hope it will be, if it works! ;)
I have faith :-)
Heheh, thanks. I wanted to go with something like infinite loop (since people always get "maximum number of redirects exceeded", heh..), but apparently that's some music company.
haha, hm, what would be a good name... "redirect hell" maybe? Nah, too negative ;-)
Yeah, don't want to scare even more people away from mod_rewrite, hahah.
Is this a dupe? I know it's been addressed, but I don't know if it's a true dupe.
Q: why are bounty points always subtracted even if a suitable answer is not provided?

simsI know this happens. It is clearly stated. I want to know WHY. rep is not money. So SO has no need of it. Why is the rep just discarded after the time limit expires? A traditional bounty is awarded. Until that time, it remains the property of awarder. Why is it bad reputation to seek and answer...

3:24 AM
yes it's a dupe...
I'm not sure of which question but Im sure it's a dupe
In fact I think I even asked a similar question which was a duplicate, lol
Someone just posted a comment with a link to the dupe
ok mine wasn't really a dupe
@YiJiang that's not a true dupe.
The answer is, the question isn't.
ok @Popular I recant, maybe this isn't a dupe
in fact, this is a very good point:
A: Why an answer can't be accepted after an unresolved bounty?

Chris Huang-LeaverThis is one rule which needs changing, it confuses award of the bounty with accepting the answer. If no answers meet the criteria for winning the bounty, (answer in time with the arbitrary up votes) then you should still be able to accept an answer. Actually, I think the time limit is silly, if ...

I'm having a nightmare right now
Q: Countdown Timer for game

John SimsHey all, this is the last piece needed for my jquery game. A countdown timer that submits the score when expired and restarts when the play button is clicked. Here's the game. The game starts by you entering a number in a text field. then you click the play button. After clicking the play butto...

3:29 AM
This <del>guy</del> idiot is using a script I wrote for an answer for an actual product
A: Jquery random number

Yi JiangThere's a couple of things to look out for here. There's no reason why the random numbers can't be generated from the number the player has entered himself, or even better, a number generated by the game itself. The way which you've done the placeholder text, using data and two event handlers i...

This guy is a moron.
voted to close
If he thinks that ajax connections are secure, if he thinks that this game can't be hacked, if he thinks that.....
3:32 AM
Yi here's a problem bro, members are just keeping the cursor on one box and ignoring the rest. I there a way to make it so you can't click the same box as you clicked last time?
I wrote that script thinking that he's doing this as an exercise
^ This is how insecure the thing is
And there'll be real money involved?
lold again
So uh, @TheUnhandledException, remember how you were waiting for money to fall into your lap?
3:35 AM
/facepalm. /facepalm. /facepalm.
yes @Tim, I do
Why, got some spare you want to pile upon me???
Do you like...games of chance? ;)
My faith in humanity is waning
Today is another day you'll never forget. Apple cured cancer!
3:40 AM
I feel like asking a follow-up question to the random() * random() vs. random() one: "Is random() * random() more random than random() if I can manipulate the odds?"
@YiJiang Apple acquired jQuery in a hostile take over?
And @Tim, which is more random: rand() + rand() or rand() * rand()?
If this iTunes announcement is as stupid as them having launched Ping, I'm going to go punch Steve Jobs in the face.
3:44 AM
@TheUnhandledException apple.com/itunes/ping
@TheUnhandledException This, ladies and gentleman, proves that Ping failed
Oh yes, thanks, I heard about that briefly. I am still on iTunes 9
@YiJiang and I'm an Apple user too, lol
So it doubly failed. One might say Ping EPIC FAILed
I refuse to turn it on because their belief that it was a good idea disappoints me.
You know, if one said such things
I say such things all the time.
I'm very critical. :P
3:46 AM
I'm pretty sure this is A Bad Idea™. Thoughts?
Q: How to track my jQuery plugin's usage?

OliverI would like to know if there is a way of tracking who is using my jQuery plugin thru some javascript code inside the plugin itself. My plugin is being used on different sites out there, so i'd like to know where it is being used and how many times it is being accessed.

I actually said EPIC FAIL out loud the other day and it just sounded so wrong... I guess I spoke it in a serif font or something
@YiJiang I second this motion.
Why @YiJiang? A small 1x1px gif wouldn't do much harm
@TheUnhandledException jQuery plugin code is available for all to see, and I don't think most people will appreciate this "feature"
He could also require people to register to download it
3:48 AM
It also means that this is trivial to remove'
@TheUnhandledException That is a far better solution
Are you posting that or should I? :-)
@TheUnhandledException You go ahead
A: How to track my jQuery plugin's usage?

JoshYou could just present a registration form for people to fill out before the download the source code, asking them for some basic contact information and the website they'll be using it on. I don't think @SLaks' idea of a 1x1 pixel gif is that bad of an idea but he's right, many people will disli...

suggestions? improvements? critiques? needs moar freehand circles?
Place more emphersis on the fact that jQuery plugin's source is plain for everyone to see, and also, there are negative effects caused by sticking an additional img like that
good suggestions
ha beaten by 27 seconds
A: PHP file_get_contents on a Google search?

JoshYou want a URL of this form: http://www.google.com/search?q=cats The URL you're using is for their new "instant search"

4:01 AM
Oh, WTF?
> Apple's big announcement tomorrow will be the addition of the Fab Four's catalog, the WSJ says
OK @YiJiang, fixed
What's wrong @Tim?
shakes fist at copy failure
I don't know, I'm skeptical
(does @ work in links?)
Apparently :P
> ...it has finally struck a deal with the Beatles, the best-selling music group of all time, and the band’s record company, EMI...
4:05 AM
They got all the Beatles to agree did they?
Sosumi is one of the system sounds introduced in Apple Inc.'s Macintosh System 7 operating system in 1991, an extremely short sample of a xylophone, which gained notoriety in computer folklore as a cheeky response to a long-running Apple Corps v. Apple Computer trademark conflict. The sound has been included in all subsequent versions of Mac OS, including Mac OS X. During the development of System 7, the two Apples concluded a settlement agreement from an earlier dispute when Apple added a sound synthesis chip to its IIgs machine. As a result, Apple Computer was prohibited from using their...
So the real announcement is that Apple has the ability to bring people back from the dead?
@TheUnhandledException The first thing I thought when I saw that was "Sashimi!"
I have no idea why
@YiJiang Now I want some sashimi. :(
Hungry @YiJiang? :-)
damn lack of autocomplete and my fat fingers, and no editing via XMPP
4:07 AM
@TimStone That rumor has been floating around for so long it's not funny anymore :|
@TimStone I've been in the mood for good sashimi for a long time, I don't trust the places around me
@YiJiang Apparently now it's so unfunny that it's become serious enough to front-page on MSNBC.
@TimStone Oh god... how much is Apple paying for that I wonder...
@TheUnhandledException Hahah, we have a decent place around here. When I used to live in Philadelphia, I could get it delivered....That was....an expensive addiction.
wow, I'll bet
When I was in college in Boston we used to go for "rock and roll" midnight sushi downtown. In this hole-in-the-wall in a basement. I'm amazed I never got sick
4:10 AM
Hahah, better hope you don't have any parasites roaming around in your body now. :P
When he was about 8 years old, my cousin actually got one from Sushi (at least that's all I can think it would have been from, gulp )
it was totally gross. He walked around telling us all he had a worm inside him, he thought it was so cool
meh, drown it with copious amounts of alcohol.
"then you have two problems"
@Mark maybe you missed the "When he was about 8 years old" part of the sentence ;-)
@TheUnhandledException well I was referring to your parasite from basement sushi, not his...
Oh haha, I'm sure mine has been drowned by now -- that was college after all ;-)
4:16 AM
mmmm sushi
Or char siu bao
which I don't usually like but could go for right now
@AidenBell 叉烧包?It's not that bad, but there's 叉烧 everything here.
aye. Sons of ----es making me hungry lol
@AidenBell Cha siu baau?
Char siu noddles, char siu rice
char siu char siu
4:19 AM
@TimStone 叉烧 - a type of Chinese sweet meat 包 - bun
Yeah. :P
aka Freaky sweet and meat
Wikipedia onebox anyone?
Cha siu baau, also spelled char siu bao, are Cantonese barbecue pork buns (baozi). The buns are filled with barbecue-flavoured cha siu pork. They are served as a type of dim sum during yum cha and are sometimes sold in Chinese bakeries. Variety There are two major kinds of char siu bao: steamed ( zing1) and baked ( guk6). Steamed cha siu bao has a white exterior, while its baked counterpart is browned and glazed. Cantonese cuisine Char siu refers to the pork filling; the word bao simply means "bun." Although visually similar to other types of steamed baozi, the dough of steamed cha siu...
@AidenBell Darn you :P
4:20 AM
Thank you
Onebox collision!
Oh I love those!
Timestamps FTW!
Onebox wars .... scratches chin
They serve them at a local Dim Sum restaurant
4:20 AM
They're not particularly interesting when you can eat them everyday
Dim sum is a Cantonese term for a type of Chinese dish that involves small individual portions of food, usually served in a small steamer basket or on a small plate. Going for dim sum is usually known in Cantonese as going to "drink tea" (yum cha, 飲茶). History Dim Sum is usually linked with the older tradition of yum cha (tea tasting), which has its roots in travellers on the ancient Silk Road needing a place to rest. Thus teahouses were established along the roadside. Rural farmers, exhausted after working hard in the fields, would also go to teahouses for a relaxing afternoon of t...
And when they come in microwavable containers in local supermarkets
Oh, playing alone am i
I used to eat them for breakfast everyday
Breakfast is the first meal of the day, usually consumed in the morning. The word is a compound of "break" and "fast", referring to the conclusion of fasting since the previous day's last meal. Breakfast meals vary widely in different cultures around the world, but often include a carbohydrate such as cereal or rice, fruit and/or vegetable, protein, sometimes dairy, and beverage. Nutritional experts have referred to breakfast as the most important meal of the day, citing studies that find that people who skip breakfast are disproportionately likely to have problems with concentration...
4:22 AM
I feel that Wikipedia makes life too easy.
Easy may refer to: In albums: *Easy (The Easybeats album) *Easy (Grant Green album) *Easy (Grinspoon album) *Easy (Kelly Willis album) *Easy (Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell album) *Easy (Ralph McTell album) *Easy (Cowboy Mouth album), by Cowboy Mouth In songs: *"Easy" (Barenaked Ladies song) *"Easy" (Commodores song), also covered by Faith No More *"Easy" (Deer Tick song) *"Easy" (Paula DeAnda song) *"Easy" (Sugababes song) *"Easy", by Groove Armada from Lovebox *"Easy", by Matthew Sweet from Earth In other uses: * EASY (computer language), a scripting language * Enhanced Avionics System...
I'll stop ...
Hell, I'm going to go eat dinner now. Knock yourself out.
4:23am ... time for frankfurters
Yeah I was about to go afk lest I get even more hungry :-)
A hot dog (frankfurter, wiener) is a moist sausage of soft, even texture and flavor, often made from meat slurry, typically beef and pork, though some recent varieties substitute chicken or turkey. Most types are fully cooked, cured or smoked. Hot dogs are most often served hot in hot dog buns, which are special soft, sliced rolls. They may be garnished with mustard, ketchup, onion, mayonnaise, relish, cheese, bacon, chili or sauerkraut. Some hot dogs are bland, while others are more highly seasoned. History Claims about hot dog invention are difficult to assess, as stories assert t...
4:24 AM
Actually, I'm going AFK because I am sick of coding for today
@AidenBell Oy.
"Often made from meat slurry"
Don't want any now
On that note I am outta here
4:25 AM
ok, so no dinner then. thanks.
Catch everyone later!
Bye @TheUnhandledException
Later @Aiden
See ya @TheUnhandledException
note to self: Wikipedia articles journey Hot Dogs->Mechanically Separated Meat->Spinal Chord not recommended
4:31 AM
You know, I'm surprised it too someone to realize this
5:11 AM
Winner of the Vimeo Community Awards - Narrative Category
Absolutely brilliant videography
5:58 AM
Q: Google Baraza: impact on SO francise?

glasntGoogle has announced their SO attempt, Baraza http://www.google.com/baraza/en/ From the blogoscoped http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-11-16-n46.html: Baraza operates on a Points basis. You get 20 points for signing up, and 4 points each day you log in. If you are already logged into your G...

Just had a look at that thing. The UI is 'orrible...
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7:29 AM
Brilliant... Singapore's usual afternoon shower's turning into a huge thunderstorm
8:08 AM
@YiJiang It's not that bad, tbh.
Saves us from having africa.stackexchange.com! :P
Instead we should look into the way they do polls, since the Q&A seems inspired by SO.
like this
oooh, anonymous downvoting.
I know, that's the odd part
You need an account to answer/vote for polls, yet voting is anonymous
Sigh... questions like this... google.com/baraza/en/…
Very reminiscent of Yahoo Answers
@YiJiang you can downvote!
yes, you can upvote too
but is that nearly as much fun?
Voting isn't anonymous
8:23 AM
@YiJiang rly?
I'm not logged in and I did vote.
Hmmm... yeah, you can vote anonymously
I am logged in on other Google services right now, I mean.
Not on Baraza, however.
If you're logged in however where you vote is shown
But not the actual vote
@YiJiang er, what?
My vote arrows did change colours if that's what you mean.
@radp As in, you can see where registered users vote
8:28 AM
@YiJiang List of who voted what?
oh lord
That would be an one?
Hmm... apparently not. That page is private
It looks like a paragraph sign... or a indentation thing... or something
but not an one.
Sure, had I seen a
...okay, no, the 2 is horrible too.
What an horrible font for numbers.
Now I want my rep shown with those images @rchern!!
There's no zero picture, but zero is worthless so...
Q: Snow Leopard Server VPN service - Health control check: server is sick

decezeLooking at the VPN service log on my Snow Leopard server, it spews the following messages over and over: 2010-11-16 15:04:49 JST Health control check: server is sick... 2010-11-16 15:04:50 JST Health control check: server is back to normal... The VPN service won't let me log in eith...

Clearly the answer is to feed the server chicken noodle soup.
Hah, who woulda thunk
@radp Literally, Google Q&A
8:40 AM
yeah, I got linked to there from here
Turns out Google Africa didn't do much development after all.
If only Google had their own Jon Skeet to answer questions...Oh, wait...
@radp I refuse to believe that's a two.
@TimStone Alex Martelli? :D
In other shocking news: a phone that doesn't attempt to kill the iPhone
Comes with a stylus that has actual ink! Revolutionary!
It's like a touch screen, but more life-like!
Also, the accept/reject call buttons are amusing.
In more newslite:
9:12 AM
@radp I like it!
9:23 AM
Sigh, I signed up for free Kiln project hosting
now I find myself administering FogBugz.
I get it, I get it, that's the proper way of doing it. I just wish I didn't now have to set everything up, when Kiln has exactly 0 configuration settings.
(I guess that makes business sense, however.)
9:36 AM
The default avatar image for 谷歌问答 is so cute:
9:47 AM
Oh man, you know, 问答 isn't as bad as I thought it is. I mean, they have this question! wenda.google.com.hk/wenda/…
10:14 AM
Jesus Christ can SO's HTML get any worse?
<B> FTW? :)
You know what's worse than inline styles?
Random style tags stuck in the body element bringing page rendering to a screeching halt while the browser deals with the unexpected styles
10:50 AM
Bad Stack Overflow. Bad bad Stack Overflow

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