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4:30 AM
posted on December 31, 2014 by Artist

I've been visiting the family over christmas and it's been fun, but fairly unproductive coding-wise. But I've made 3 drafts for the design of the webshop, so I've got that thing going for me which is nice. I'm also trying to read up on the new design principles. It's going so-so. I'm not quite the fan of the style, but I'd make it work. So I can finally get to the coding of the front end, so

 
 
2 hours later…
6:39 AM
poke poke
 
 
3 hours later…
10:07 AM
Hallo wurld!
 
Sam
... and kicked.
 
Hmm...
 
Sam
Ah, there's a bug in CE.Net's socket recovery mechanism.
 
debugging on production at its finest
 
Sam
:D
 
10:15 AM
Sorry for the kick @Gham, you were being annoying
 
Sam
lol, np.
 
Sam
@InfiniteSnowflakes Actually, thank you for kicking him.
As I've just found a bug. ^
 
Nice find
 
Sam
Thx.
It should hopefully be a pretty easy fix.
 
10:19 AM
Will you report it on MSE?
 
Sam
No. This is a problem with my chat wrapper (called ChatExchange.Net).
 
Ok. If you want to test after fixing the bug, be careful and don't kick Gham more than twice in every 24 hours. Third time puts user in trouble and triggers mod flag.
 
Sam
Really? :O
Ok, thanks for letting me know :)
I'll just have to kick myself, or pham...
Or...
 
@InfiniteSnowflakes Third? Yesterday my bot was kicked twice from the botling room for testing, and that already triggered a mod flag.
 
Yes, that is the reason why I don't kick bjb in the tavern despite popular demand. Shog kicks him once, I kick him once, but no third kick :P
 
Sam
10:24 AM
 
However, the kicks for my bot were not in a range of 24 hours, but 30 minutes, so that might make a difference...
@Sam Why??? xD
 
Sam
I needed another account to help gunr2171 with the CE.Net bug.
 
lol
 
Hiya @Yam. It's documented somewhere. User loses inviting to chat priv as well as room creation privs permanently and raises mod flag
 
@InfiniteSnowflakes Permanently? :O
oh well, I think I have to find those docs
 
10:26 AM
Yes, till a dev explicitly restores the privs
 
hmm...
 
Sam
@InfiniteSnowflakes I still have to get him 20 rep :/
 
@InfiniteSnowflakes I see a doc, but it nowhere says that it needs only 2 kicks. Weird.
 
Answer one of the hat posts @Sam ;)
 
I'm going to log in from my bot and check whether it has the privs to invite me.
 
10:28 AM
3 kicks, so we stop at 2.
 
Sam
@InfiniteSnowflakes Great idea!
 
@InfiniteSnowflakes Yeah, but Uni got the message "a moderator has been informed" when he kicked my bot the second time.
Oh fun, more than 1000 notifications on my bot account.
 
Sam
Wait, is this mod notif triggered from 2 kicks from the same room, or just in total?
 
@Sam from the same room continuously
 
Sam
kk
 
10:30 AM
in Tavern on the Meta, yesterday, by hichris123
> If it is the third or more time the user has been kicked within 24 hours, the ban will last for 30 minutes. In addition, the user is automatically banned from creating new rooms and from sending invites. This automatic ban does not expire and can only be removed by a moderator.
 
in Botlings practice room, 17 hours ago, by ProgramFOX
Dear mods, we are sorry for kicking my chatbot. It was mainly for testing purposes. Please ignore the auto flag.
 
Phew, my bot can still invite, so it has back its privs.
 
Yay!
 
(if those were actually revoked)
 
Oops, not devs, mods can restore privs :)
 
10:31 AM
Still weird that the auto-flag was raised at the 2nd time and not the 3rd as the doc says.
 
How do you know it was "auto"?
 
@InfiniteSnowflakes Because Uni got a message about that.
in Botlings practice room, 17 hours ago, by Unihedro
> The user has been kicked and cannot return for 5 minutes. Moderators have been informed.
 
I suggest we simply don't do any kick-testing anymore...
 
Sam
What happens after a 3rd kick?
 
10:33 AM
@ProgramFOX How? It's not like we have a way to cut the sockets of another person.
3 mins ago, by Infinite Snowflakes
in Tavern on the Meta, yesterday, by hichris123
> If it is the third or more time the user has been kicked within 24 hours, the ban will last for 30 minutes. In addition, the user is automatically banned from creating new rooms and from sending invites. This automatic ban does not expire and can only be removed by a moderator.
 
Sam
Oh, right.
 
@Unihedro eh, no, but we should try to limit it anyway
 
Yes, cool-down could be issued to the RO as well in case of abuse :/
just a guess
Reminds me, saw this while reading bjb-lrio conversation:
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 days ago, by Jefffrey
About Unihedro: I don't know if he really is this dense or he is just displaying an defensive attitude that he would probably call "trolling".
@uni is "dense" :D
 
They went into our room trying to convince us how java sucks in a poor way, so I teased him several times. I'm not surprised. :P
 
10:40 AM
@Unihedro lol. goes to find that conversation
 
Sam
lol
 
@Unihedro wat
 
@ProgramFOX It starts from there.
As a back story, fge and I were coding before Benjamin and Jefffrey (who invited all lounge users to join his insightful conversation) started the discussion on why Java sucks vs why Java does not suck
 
10:44 AM
Next time that happens, unleash bjbotling on them
 
:D
 
I find it amusing how he goes to their room and treats them. It either takes a lot of courage or a lot of insanity ;)
 
:p
 
 
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12:32 PM
in Java on Stack Overflow Chat, 16 secs ago, by iostream.h
@Unihedro i ve seen some of the transscript of that room. its a weird room
 
lol
Lunch time, cya!
 
Sam
12:59 PM
Cya!
 
Cya!
 
1:21 PM
Back.
 
Welcome back!
I'm going to ping everyone in the lounge and then delete the message. Just to see how they would react.
 
lololololololol
 
Ugh, it's too long.
Magic: If a message is too long, add a new line at the end!
Oh, it doesn't work.
 
heh
 
1:31 PM
Why don't you just use the first three letters to ping them?
#lifehack
Btw, you really want to ping Shog?
(he's in the list)
 
There are more people in your ping list than in the room...
 
$.post('/rooms/pingable/10').success(function(o) {
  $.o = o
})
// after completed, then I run:
a = ''
for (i = 0; i < $.o.length; i++)
  a += '@' + $.o[i][1].replace(/\s/g, '').replace(/^(.{1,3}).*/, '$1') + ' '
a
 
oh, that
well, but not all of those are now in the room
Isn't there a list of people who are currently in the room?
Let me test something...
@Unihedro
Does that^ ping you?
 
The name didn't light up but it did ping me.
And I just /ack'd it.
 
1:36 PM
IIRC, code block contents can be longer than 500 chars.
@Unihedro I saw you posting that image, and now you aren't there anymore. Did you leave or were you kicked?
 
@ProgramFOX left.
 
@Unihedro eugh
I cannot find an easy way to see everyone who is in the room currently...
 
I made everyone in their room shut up for five minutes. :p
 
lol
 
Sam
2:03 PM
@ProgramFOX I know how to get a JSON of pingable users if that's any help?
 
@Sam That's what Uni currently uses.
 
Sam
Oh, didn't notice.
I'm gonna try something...
 
2:28 PM
Hmm, I wonder how expensive it is to host a XMPP IM server.
 
2:40 PM
What does this mean?
 
What does what mean?
It is clear to me.
 
So for a robot, should I make a new account or use my own?
 
Depends on the purpose, I'd say.
 
Eh... I should just host gitlabs so I don't have to worry about this.
lol
Is it just me or a line in DD/about has broken encoding @Pro?
Don't feel entitled to anything – everyone is donating their own time.
 
@Unihedro Seems to work fine for me.
screenshot?
then I can see which line
 
2:49 PM
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="half">
		<h2 id="community">Community</h2>
		<div id="community-b">
			<p>Almost everything that is done on DevDoodle is a community process. The community casts votes on site policies and moderation of posts, community members help each other by solving their problems and collaborating on projects, and users can posts feature requests on <em>meta</em> to add site functionality for the benefit of the community.</p>
			<ul>
				<li>Try to give to the community more than you receive.</li>
 
@Unihedro Shows up fine for me; it probably should be replaced with a HTML entity instead of just using the character.
It's just a long dash.
&mdash; is what it should be.
 
Sam
3:33 PM
Test
 

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