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Sam
@JanDvorak Have you tried running the latest version of Pham?
 
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>>add-b-qb-spam (i?)Lisse
 
@AndrewT. Blacklist term added.
 
9:23 AM
not yet
 
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@Pham fp
 
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@Pham fp
 
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Sam
9:30 AM
@Pham tp
/me thinks I've broken something....
(I had to alter the message posting queue so it could handle the auto command)
>>info
 
Owners: Sam, Unihedron, Patrick Hofman, Jan Dvorak & ProgramFOX. Total terms: 939. Accuracy threshold: 17.5%. Full scan enabled: True. Posts caught over last 7 days: 546. Uptime: 00:10:08.3857976.
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should I run him now?
@Pham tp
 
Sam
@JanDvorak Sure.
 
Phamhilator™ stopped.
 
crashed right away
 
Sam
9:34 AM
Hmm, no change from last time?
 
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Sam
>>status
 
Current status: Beta.
 
I've just pulled
 
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Sam
9:37 AM
@Pham tp
Oh, facepalm
I forgot pat changed a little var last night.
And I didn't change it back.
 
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Sam
>>info
 
Owners: Sam, Unihedron, Patrick Hofman, Jan Dvorak & ProgramFOX. Total terms: 939. Accuracy threshold: 17.5%. Full scan enabled: True. Posts caught over last 7 days: 553. Uptime: 00:11:59.1971357.
 
Sam
9:53 AM
goes to add a new stat...
 
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Sam
@Pham tp
 
@Sam TP acknowledged.
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Sam
@Pham fp
 
@Sam FP acknowledged.
 
Sam
@Pham fp
 
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Sam
@Pham fp
 
10:26 AM
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Sam
@Pham fp
 
@Pham tp
 
@Unihedron TP acknowledged.
 
I also reviewed the bump cause:
This does not provide a solution to the thread. To update your posts with new information, use the Edit button. The Post Answer button should only be used to add a new solution to the thread. — Unihedron 40 secs ago
 
10:33 AM
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Sam
Just need to test out the auto command, then I'll document it and finally close the FRs.
 
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Sam
@Pham fp why
 
@Sam Blacklisted term(s) found: 10](?i)^how can we
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Sam
10:45 AM
@Pham fp
 
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Tag added.
 
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11:01 AM
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Sam
Ah, I should probably make the chat rate limiting function room specific.
 
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11:22 AM
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Sam
@Pham tp
 
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11:45 AM
@Sam Blacklist term removed.
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Sam
37 messages moved to Sandbox
 
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Sam
51 messages moved to Sandbox
There, cleaned up the room a bit.
 
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Sam
There, #4/5 are completed. Now I've just gotta add 'em to the docs...
 
11:53 AM
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Sam
>>help
 
See here for a full list of commands.
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Sam
@Pham fp
 
@Sam FP acknowledged.
 
Sam
@Pham fp
 
11:58 AM
@Sam FP acknowledged.
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Sam
@Pham fp
@Pham fp
 
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Sam
@Pham fp
@Pham tp
 
@Sam TP acknowledged.
 
Sam
@Pham fp
@Pham fp
 
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Sam
@Pham fp
@Pham tp
 
@Sam TP acknowledged.
 
Sam
@Pham tp
 
@Sam TP acknowledged.
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Sam
12:16 PM
Hmm, will the kill command still work...
 
@Pham fp
:2582501 why
 
Sam
It had "crappy".
>>kill-it-with-no-regrets-for-sure
 
Killing...
Command listener thread has died...
Post catcher thread has died...
All threads have died. Kill successful!
 
Sam
Cool, it actually worked.
Almost finished doc'ing the new commands...
 
Imagine a human describing in great detail their death ;-)
 
12:19 PM
 
Sam
lol, yeah well it's necessary.
Hiya @AndrewT. @PatrickHofman
 
Hiya @Sam
 
Hi all
 
Oh, the autocomplete on mobile chat is working
 
Sam
There, docs updated.
Hiya @Andy
 
12:24 PM
@Sam Good <time of day>
 
Sam
@Pat I've finished debugging for the day and committed. Feel free to start Pham (after pulling, of course) ;)
 
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@Sam cool! Looking forward for auto in action
 
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Sam
:D
 
12:28 PM
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Sam
>>auto-b-a-lq ^\<p\>[^a-z]*\<\/p\>$
 
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Sam
>> auto-b-a-lq ^\<p\>[^a-z]*\<\/p\>$
 
@Sam Auto toggled (now True).
@Sam Done
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Sam
Ah, forgot to add persistence.
>>auto-b-a-lq ^\<p\>[^a-z]*\<\/p\>$
 
12:30 PM
@Sam Auto toggled (now False).
 
Sam
>>auto-b-a-lq-p ^\<p\>[^a-z]*\<\/p\>$
 
@Sam Auto toggled (now True).
 
Sam
There.
Enjoy the new commands, I've gtg for a few mins. Cya.
 
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@PatrickHofman why
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@PatrickHofman fp
 
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Sam
2:16 PM
Back
@Pat did you remember to change GlobalInfo.BotUsername?
 
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@PatrickHofman fp
 
Sam
Pham doesn't have message persistence.
 
@Sam I keep forgetting that. It might be good to acknowledge the message, but return a comment that it lost its state.
 
Sam
Good idea.
 
You know, just for stupid people like me :)
 
Sam
2:23 PM
lol :)
 
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Sam
@PatrickHofman fp why
 
@Sam Blacklisted term(s) found: 325](?i)(did|have) you f(in|oun)d 3377619](?i)did you find
@Sam FP acknowledged.
 
Sam
Hmmm, the decimal display bug is back.
 
2:35 PM
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Sam
@PatrickHofman why
 
@Sam Blacklisted term(s) found: 13](?s-m)^.{0,150}$
 
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Sam
3:22 PM
@Jan Regarding #28. I've just taken a second look and realised what you actually said, "sensitivity (true positive / all bad) and specificity (true negative / all good)" (and not, "total tp/total fp" and vice versa). I'm not quite sure what you mean by "true positive" and "true negative" (as in, I'm not exactly sure which metrics you're referring to).
 
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Sam
3:51 PM
>>info
 
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@Sam tp = true positive = bad posts detected as bad posts. fp = false positive = good posts detected as bad posts. tn = true negative = good posts detected as good posts. fn = false negative = bad posts detected as good posts
there would be a separate sensivity metric for spam and for LQ
 
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Closing...
See you all tomorrow
 
Sam
@JanDvorak So, as an example: specificity = total tn / total fp + total tn?
 
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Sam
4:32 PM
Ok, thx @Pat
 
Committed.
 
@Sam specificity = TN / (TV + FP)
yes
 
Sam
Kk, I understand. I'll make the metrics filter specific, too.
3 stats per filter * 4 filters = 12 new stats ~= another new command
 
so, "why" => "5].{0,150}" (specificity: 1%, sensitivity: 50%)?
that would be cool
 
Sam
Yeah that would. Just thinking how...
Ah ha. I know. I'll record each post caught by each term and mark the catch as either TP/TN/FP/FN.
 
4:44 PM
Spam FNs could be gathered from Zephyr
 
Sam
Then I can clac the stats on a per-term basis.
 
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Sam
@JanDvorak I was thinking of just marking a non-FP'd spam report as FN.
 
as in, if everyone ignores the bot, act as if the bot didn't report it but should have?
 
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Sam
4:47 PM
Basically, yes.
 
that doesn't feel right...
 
Sam
Although, I'm just thinking how that would work if someone TP's a report.
Yeah, plan B....
Hmm, well getting TPs and FPs is fine. It's just the TNs/FNs...
 
FN = listen to Zephyr?
 
Sam
But that's not term specific.
 
also, TP for one keyword = FN for all other keywords
 
Sam
4:51 PM
Of course. Simple inverse boolean logic ;)
So, theoretically, shouldn't TN = FP?
 
?
the number of good and bad posts is the same for all keywords (well... not quite; you start measuring at different times), but different keywords have a different amount of positives
it does make sense to reset all stats after each keyword manipulation
 
Sam
Right, so when someone TP's a report, I'll add the black terms to a "TP" list (or increment some val indicating how many times the term has been TP'd). And the same FP'ing (obviously an "FP" list will be used instead).
Which I can then use in the term-specific stats calculations.
But for FNs/TNs...?
 
FN = all bad - what was detected by that keyword
TN ~= questions per day * days running ;-)
 
Sam
5:08 PM
Great! Thx for your help, it was kinda confusing to begin with ;)
 
all bad = from Zephyr + TP (found by other keywords)
you can use all bad = TP from other keywords once Pham is sensitive enough
 
Sam
Roger that.
 
spam flag request => spam
cv, delv request => VLQ
 
Sam
Or, all bad = TP from other mature terms.
(Calc'ing a term's maturity is quite easy.)
 
tp is tp no matter how it got detected
 
Sam
5:13 PM
Oh, yeah, good point.
 
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Sam
I think I'm gonna have to draw up a flowchart for all this...
 
Do you want me to review it?
 
Sam
It would help ;)
 
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5:22 PM
I'm still not sure how to treat ignored reports
 
Sam
We could just ignore them from the calcs?
 
yes - count how many positives were ignored and reduce the amount of negatives by the same amount
(which comes naturally if you only use negatives from other keywords, not the entire realtime tab)
 
Sam
When you say Ns and Ps, I assume you mean global total Ns/Ps (not necessarily false or true)?
(Just trying to figure out the final algos)
 
P = reported; N = not reported
 
Sam
Kk
@JanDvorak TN = every post (Q and A) that has ever been "scanned/checked" by pham?
 
5:41 PM
@Sam * % reports handled
 
Sam
Right
 
or perhaps distribute unhandled reports between TP and FP proportionally instead? (same results, but the math might be simpler - if 50% handled reports are true, assume 50% unhandled reports are true as well)
 
Sam
Yeah. So finally...
handled posts = total reported posts - total ignored posts
specificity = handled posts / false positives + handled posts
 
handled = reported - ignored
sensitivity = tp / known bad
specificity = fp / (total * (handled / reported))
roughly
 
Sam
Still better than nothing ;)
 
5:51 PM
not sure when best to subtract known bad from total - before or after factoring out ignores
for spam # total ~= # good works pretty well
let me think...
 
Sam
Wouldn't it be better to subtract ignores first?
 
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