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Maybe this is a duplicate of another question, it's certainly something which I've seen discussed in a few chat rooms, but I thought it would be interesting/useful to have reactions in one place. How do you see yourself using chat, longterm? (once you've finished messing around with dancing gifs...

txwikinger

what does the 101 mean?

George Marian

@txwikinger Eh? 101 rep?

Marco Ceppi

How well are these chats archived? For instance if a legit question like "There is black smoke billowing from my Ubuntu Laptop - it is running 9.04 - will upgrading fix this?"

txwikinger

under Jorge Castro's post here

George Marian

@MarcoCeppi Quite well so far. Scroll to the top and you'll see a transcripts button.

Marco Ceppi

7:21 PM

Can the chat be referenced for answers - or how are legitimate questions moved out of here - other than asking the author to move to the Parent site

George Marian

Plan is to freeze rooms with out activity, in order to maintain the history.

There's also a search feature for transcripts.

Check it out for chat-feedback: chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/search?room=77

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeMarian Thanks I'll have to take a peek

Jorge Castro

Is there a way to move my existing answer to another question?

I duped the "how do we promote" question unintentionally

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro I know there is a moderator merge tool - well i just found out about such a tool. So there may be a way to merge the two questions...

Jorge Castro

ok

lfaraone

7:26 PM

@JorgeCastro: how feasible would ask.ubuntu.com be?

Jorge Castro

very

lfaraone

@JorgeCastro: it won't conflict with, say, launchpad answers?

Jorge Castro

also, I am working with the lp guys about investigating shutting down LP answers

since it's unmaintained

txwikinger

Yeah.. you just need to sit on an admin to change the DNS records :D

Jorge Castro

and the lp guys really want to get rid of it

lfaraone

7:27 PM

@JorgeCastro: hehe, yeah. I can see why. we tried using that for SL a while back. nobody liked it :)

Marco Ceppi

I think both LaunchPad answers and USE have different cases though

txwikinger

what do we do with the lp answers history?

also.. answers is multi-lingual

Jorge Castro

@txwikinger yeah so there would be alot of issues to discuss there

migration, etc.

lfaraone

@txwikinger: I'm sure it'll be archived.

Jorge Castro

or perhaps just having new questions on SE and leave the old stuff in an archive

Marco Ceppi

7:28 PM

In addition it's typically more geared towards softwares in LaunchPad though?

txwikinger

there is also ubuntu.shapado.com btw.. that is multi-lingual

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi yeah when I mean Answers I mean Answers for the Ubuntu project

lfaraone

@JorgeCastro: ooh, migration would be interesting... but the issue is that SE is CC-Wiki licensed.

Jorge Castro

not every project on LP

Marco Ceppi

I see - was mistaken

Jorge Castro

7:29 PM

@lfaraone there would be a ton of issues, but I've only started talking to LP people today about it

and in general they seem to not-like Answers

and they don't have anyone working on it

txwikinger

well.. lp is open source now :p

lfaraone

@txwikinger: the content, I mean.

txwikinger

@MarcoCeppi Yes .. I have the source on my laptop

Marco Ceppi

@txwikinger But it's not released? Or is it?

Jorge Castro

I think if we sorted the licensing it wouldn't be hard to import all open questions in LP to SE, both have APIs. :)

lfaraone

7:31 PM

@MarcoCeppi: of course it is.

txwikinger

it's a whole bunch .. and does not work on a standard apache deployment

lfaraone

@MarcoCeppi: canonical even misspelled my name when they credited me for submitting a patch.

@JorgeCastro: maco told me to start calling you "George" to make up for it.

Jorge Castro

indeed, heh

Marco Ceppi

That's interesting because I've done something similar with Git and RPMs for CentOS deployment at my old job - is there a link to this magic?

Jorge Castro

launchpad.net/launchpad

click on "Code" and go nuts!

lfaraone

7:33 PM

of course, Git will never* be supported in LP.

Jorge Castro

launchpad.net/launchpad-project actually I think

lfaraone

the devs I've talked to say "it's not a technical decision" , and the non-technical people I've talked to say it's not part of the strategy.

txwikinger

never say never

lfaraone

which, for Sugar Labs at least, prevented us moving our hundred or so repos to LP.

Marco Ceppi

@lfaraone Yes yes - I realize that - Bzr is the flavor of the month, not only that but it's also a Canioncal baby

I've ended up trying to support creation of deb files in my small farm by making the RPMs first then using alien

and as you can imagine that was a nightmare

lfaraone

7:34 PM

@MarcoCeppi: hehe. we do have git-buildpackage...

txwikinger

sounds like a religious war to me

lfaraone

@txwikinger: i use them both, personally.

txwikinger

@lfaraone I do too

Marco Ceppi

@txwikinger sacralige to some

lfaraone

/me mutters something about VI

txwikinger

7:36 PM

@MarcoCeppi not my problem

Marco Ceppi

Anyways - this should give me something else to poke at

Jorge Castro

hmm

do you guys think anything other than ask.ubuntu.com would be popular?

txwikinger

hi Dan

Marco Ceppi

heh ubuntuoverflow

Jorge Castro

ask.u.c feels very tshirt-able

Marco Ceppi

7:39 PM

I'd wear it

lfaraone

@JorgeCastro: well, that's the most popular suggestion. If it weren't possible, I'm sure the community would come up with something.

txwikinger

it is possible if we can pin down an admin to change the DNS :D that is usually th eproblem

Jorge Castro

They likely won't consider it until we're out of Beta

txwikinger

canonical admin that is

Jorge Castro

but by then it'll be a smashing success. :)

lfaraone

7:41 PM

hm. I'd prefer a [message redacted]

Marco Ceppi

@lfaraone [message redacted]

lfaraone

rofl.

@JorgeCastro: you've talked with RobertCartaino from SO, right?

Jorge Castro

yes

I sent him a mail

I've been hoping for a response ASAP. :)

txwikinger

@JorgeCastro I added a bit to that e-mail

Jorge Castro

I saw, thanks

lfaraone

7:54 PM

anyway, I'm out for a bit. as always, I'll continue to be on IRC.

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