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Yeah, [status-completed] is usually only used with bug reports and feature requests, not really for maintenance winows and such. — V2Blast 11 secs ago
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Hi kuekawa, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Spevacus 37 secs ago
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FWIW, this sounds like a great idea: “We can add response header information to indicate if a request is read-only. This can make it much easier to detect this traffic in real- or near-real-time in our logs and monitoring tools.” — Giacomo1968 49 secs ago
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Are you asking about the Stack Overflow site or all sites on the Stack Exchange Network? — Makyen 42 secs ago
06:45
I didn't vote, but I'd suspect that the downvotes are because the issue you're asking about has been discussed many times over the last year, including both all of the specific points you've brought up and the spectacular failure of SE's own attempt to use generative AI to "help" questions. The downvoters probably believe that you asking this question indicates that you didn't do much research about this issue prior to asking this question. Admittedly, it's possible that you did do research and just didn't find anything. OTOH, people are tired of rehashing the same points. — Makyen 53 secs ago
I also didn't vote, but adding to @Makyen - Downvotes on Meta (i.e., here) can indicate disagreement, so disagreement with encouraging AI usage is a possibility. Also, while it isn't your fault, the Stack Exchange community has strong opinions and a messy history with generative AI on the platform. In brief, there were a number of poorly-received genAI initiatives by Stack Exchange and a moderation strike heavily involving genAI policy. — cocomac 39 secs ago
06:57
While generative AI is banned on Stack Overflow and many other SE sites, it's not actually banned on the entire Network. The company has left it up to individual sites to decide if it's banned on that site. The baseline which is policy on all sites is that generative AI content is considered "not your own work" and it must be appropriately referenced. — Makyen 26 secs ago
Can someone weigh in on whether this problem is likely to be fixed by an end-user action such as erasing the browser's cache or cookies? — phil1008 27 secs ago
08:05
... and Is there any way to see my deleted questions or answers? (But if you lost the account which you used for posting the question, this does not help.) — Martin 20 secs ago
If you posted from this account you can access all your deleted posts - in your questions tab scroll down and click on "deleted questions". See: Show all of my question/answers to me even if they are deleted, How do I view my old deleted questions? or Is it possible to get access to my deleted questions?. Or from some per-site-metas: Is there any way to see my deleted questions or answers? and .... — Martin 45 secs ago
08:17
Hi Shahid Khan, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 27 secs ago
08:40
community members often feel as though their opinions ... do not matter — we don't feel, we make a conclusion based on multiple facts — Nick Volynkin 52 secs ago
09:29
@Stevecanhelp the purpose really is the library of answers, not the community around it, for all that we've moved in a squishy direction over the years that departs from that real mission. I wrote about this when some Code of Conduct changes were proposed: meta.stackexchange.com/a/312206/307622 — Wildcard 1 min ago
10:04
Sadly, you won't get an official answer. It is simply too easy to pretend that the communities will self moderate and have them get the blame for any decision. You may look at a volunteer moderator answer here for reference but that is probably all you will get as "official" goes — SPArcheon 31 secs ago
10:20
@phil1008 No, cache and cookies have no effect on Safari, which browser I almost never use. The problem is with the website. — Carl 42 secs ago
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The code of conduct requires properly referencing any text that you did not write yourself, including text generated by AI. See: meta.stackexchange.com/help/referencing — ColleenV 38 secs ago
12:06
They don't want to, because they are scared that if they are honest then we will all leave. And they're probably not wrong. So they have to continue to lie to themselves and each other about what they actually want. — OrangeDog 22 secs ago
12:46
@KevinB When I publish on Amazon.com, I'm required to clarify whether I used AI. That seems sensible, and it seems something like that might be attractive here on the site. But, now it seems we're looking at a different discussion underlying the other different discussion affecting the discussion here. It's like the Blanket: we're all connected. — Jesse 50 secs ago
13:01
Please don't post the same question on multiple Stack Exchange sites. This question is off-topic here and will not be answered. I understand that you were redirected to "Stack Exchange"; there are about 180 Stack Exchange sites and, while I have no idea which of them that user was trying to redirect you to (nor, for that matter, which one(s) would accept this, if any), it certainly wouldn't have been this one, which is for questions about the Stack Exchange network itself. — F1Krazy 51 secs ago
13:48
Considering this was an internal ad for a service that was sunset from over a half decade ago, do you also have a time machine? — Journeyman Geek 54 secs ago
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@This_is_NOT_a_forum I don't always split my metaphors until someone throws stones at a deck of lead balloons. — Michael come lately 46 secs ago
@Shog9 What is meant by "the spread?" It that like coming in the bottom half or like losing to "None of these candidates?" — Michael come lately 1 min ago
15:46
Meta is already a focus group, It's only "0.015%" of the active userbase. I simply don't see any value in taking that group and further reducing down to the most vocal/popular. If the only benefit of creating focus groups is to create a safe space for suggesting unpopular solutions and not receiving the pushback from the community for it... we're doing it for the wrong reasons. Ideally such groups should be made up of users who are most invested in the things the group is for. These groups aren't for anything in particular. — Kevin B 30 secs ago
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It's a bit of joke by way of analogy to sports betting, @Michael - essentially, I'm saying just doing better than expected can be a nice little ego boost. — Shog9 48 secs ago
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18:08
I'm seeing an uptick in AI generated answers being posted all over the network. I wonder if it's related. — ColleenV 44 secs ago
Meh. Some sites don't have many high rep users reviewing, so it might make it take even longer to get approved. And there's no reason to do that if the edit is perfectly good already. You can Skip edits if you don't want to review them. — Laurel 16 secs ago
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Thank you. For anyone else who wants to avoid the weird gaps this script leaves in place of the removed questions: I've changed mine to use
.remove()
instead of the two .css()
calls. — Keiji 39 secs agokeep skipping ?? Do you mean the reviews you skipped, comes back for review again? If so, that may be a problem. If not, skip is the appropriate solution. — TheMaster 26 secs ago
A user who has never posted a question, answer, or comment on meta, can be elected as moderator for life.
The issue isn't that the original candidate is unqualified, they can learn hands on ... the issue is that the unqualified candidate can serve for life. — TheMaster 32 secs agoOr it could be because we all live in a simulation and the elections were already held? — Laf 21 secs ago
@ColleenV Maybe it's not an increase of answers but lack of flags taking them down due to flags being slow as molasses. — Mast 49 secs ago
19:37
You can't vote to close a question twice (unless your first vote expired): meta.stackexchange.com/a/250453/295232. That said, the error message is misleading indeed. — Glorfindel ♦ 28 secs ago
Oh really..? I didn't know that. Hmm, maybe I should change the question to focus on the misleading message dialog/banner then? It was definitely mentioning "retracted", which then should have nothing to do with it. — Greenonline 53 secs ago
The bug is just in the wording on the error message, you should have seen something different. — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 25 secs ago
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No repro for me, the <aside> is blank. Screenshot. Can you please also share screenshot showing what you mean? Or perhaps it's showing only if you're eligible to vote/nominate? (You can verify by viewing while logged out, or guest mode of the browser) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 1 min ago
@Giacomo1968 There were a couple posts deleted here that were by accounts posting on different sites across the network when I investigated a bit. If the flags are getting handled more slowly, it might mean that I'm just noticing stuff that would normally be cleaned up by now, but a couple of those accounts seemed like they had been posting a lot more junk in the past day or so. I've seen stuff all over, including one on ELL that got help on SO for what looks like his bot's text handling lol. Is that irony or just chutzpah? — ColleenV 3 mins ago
No repro for me, the <aside> is blank. Screenshot. Can you please also share screenshot showing what you mean? Or perhaps it's showing only if you're eligible to vote/nominate? (You can verify by viewing while logged out, or guest mode of the browser) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 2 mins ago
@Giacomo1968 There were a couple posts deleted here that were by accounts posting on different sites across the network when I investigated a bit. If the flags are getting handled more slowly, it might mean that I'm just noticing stuff that would normally be cleaned up by now, but a couple of those accounts seemed like they had been posting a lot more junk in the past day or so. I've seen stuff all over, including one on ELL that got help on SO for what looks like his bot's text handling lol. Is that irony or just chutzpah? — ColleenV 4 mins ago
@ColleenV “…including one on ELL that got help on SO for what looks like his bot's text handling lol.” LOL! — Giacomo1968 56 secs ago
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda I have added a screenshot. That is interesting - I do see the empty element in a private/incognito window...
<aside class="d-flex fd-column s-notice s-notice__info fs-body3 gsy gs8" role="status"></aside>
— Sam Onela 37 secs agoSo it's showing either to mods only, or users with enough rep to vote or nominate themselves, if you have sock with enough rep you can test it as well. ;) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 38 secs ago
I am commenting here in case it helps me get notified of future activity on this post. — 2540625 13 secs ago
@Laurel The edits aren't good. They've got typos, but it will take forever to reject and fix them. It takes too much effort to create a description for a tag and it makes no sense that the rep required is so high compared to the rep to create a tag out of thin air. I realize most people around don't care about tags because they're pretty useless on most sites. Maybe if it were easier to curate them, they'd work better. — ColleenV 5 secs ago
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@TheMaster I phrased that poorly. I mean keep skipping the multiple wiki edits that a non-native English speaker is putting the effort in to write, but is making the same small error in every single one. I have no way to let them know they're making that mistake from the review queue. — ColleenV 21 secs ago
20:40
It's not "enough rep to vote or nominate themselves" (I have 323 and see the empty aside), so I assume it's moderators only. — wizzwizz4 13 secs ago
Why don't you move explicit suspension details to the main article (review suspensions, etc. do no apply). The thought that automatic review queue suspension could apply while trying to read the post is very distracting. You can certainly delete this comment then. — artless noise 33 secs ago
The one on SO says "Nominations close in 7 days.". I can't reproduce the behavior reported on Code Review. I presume they fixed some kind of buggy condition that was coded for this specific part of the page. Are there any other SE communities with elections coming soon? — Laf 50 secs ago
21:15
This is already reported: When a retraction is not a retraction. Please update close-menu message — Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog 48 secs ago
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23:29
At the moment the best recourse/workaround for getting action on tag synonyms/merges is to raise them on Meta for discussion, but that also relies on the site's mod team to be proactive and actually take actions requested by community members. Incidentally, that's what we do on Arqade, we use [feature-request] and [status-*] tags to this effect. — Robotnik 11 secs ago
23:43
The issue is someone who isn't passionate about the community, could easily become a mod. Why should a community, however small, be lumbered with someone only keen on earning a diamond and a title?! Sites need users who are passionate about standards, who will advise new contributors, who'll be friendly to old and new users. The nominee could even be egotistical and stubborn, but as long as they have a deep knowledge of the subject they will always a better candidate and mod than someone who has demonstratively showed zero interest since they joined the community. — Mari-Lou A Слава Україні 28 secs ago
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