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1:43 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Giacomo1968
@AaronBertrand I have been on and off all day across multiple sites and multiple devices and have seen utterly no issues. I would declare this issue to be “solved” but, of course, you have you own needs and requirements. So hey, give yourself a rest if you can. — Giacomo1968 20 secs ago
 
2:18 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Carl
@AaronBertrand Short story, I once took over running a division. I improved it to the point where it was the best running division in the organization. I took a lot of flak, and when I spoke to the CEO about that she said, "What were you expecting; Gratitude?" Cleaning up other peoples messes is never appreciated, even if you live in a cave. For example, downvotes are not worth as much as upvotes precisely because they are not as informed, or informative. And yes, I would increase the downvote minimum reputation level a bit more than it is already to increase quality. — Carl 40 secs ago
 
3:01 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by yagmoth555
@Richard Usually I would agree with you, but I seen a lot of ppl quit moding and just participate because of the old event of Monica, the forcing of the pronoun’s use, etc.. The staff got a big problem to make people want to be moderator.. — yagmoth555 10 secs ago
 
 
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6:10 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Thatπthere
What's the side note for? I know they've been answered — Thatπthere 47 secs ago
 
 
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7:14 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
@AaronBertrand or maybe get the diamond you deserve here, and you can do those things all by yourself. ;-) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 13 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Resistance Is Futile
This is a signal for other people that either have same problem as you have so they know that answer solves the problem, or the ones that want to answer questions, so they know that you already have a solution. — Resistance Is Futile 1 min ago
 
7:33 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Richard
That's one of the consequences of this constant drumbeat of nonsense, trying to promote the idea that being a moderator is difficult and tiresome. — Richard 6 secs ago
 
 
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8:55 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user13267
There are many posts which were posted as answer because they were "too long for a comment" so if the information is relevant I would say go for it, as, if nothing else, it might bringer the asker closer to solving his problem — user13267 44 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
Use comments to narrow down the question so you can answer, or in case of an X-Y question, use comments to have that sorted out. Do not use Se sites as a forum, aka: here is an interesting side-story for you only to be followed by 6 to 8 other "answers" that have similar side-stories. — rene 45 secs ago
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[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Torque
Thanks @rene, your links do seem very relevant. For what it's worth, my answer would not be a "here is an interesting side story" but more of a "this is how we solved your situation, which is not identical to your approach but addresses multiple aspects you have asked about in ways you could either use or adjust to your needs" — Torque 48 secs ago
 
9:23 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
Ask yourself this question: Is any future visitor that has the same problem as the OP where my answer will solve their problem, recognize that the question is indeed a match for their problem. If no, the question needs to be improved so future visitors can connect the dots. — rene 49 secs ago
 
 
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10:53 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by l4mpi
You have some good points, most importantly the "because Prosus bought them for too much money" part. But IMO that's exactly the reason why your nonprofit idea will never happen - it sounds like lots of work without any new profit avenues for the company and a long time until potential benefits might materialize. While it would improve the long-term viability of SO, current "leadership" has not demonstrated any ability or willingness to deal with uninteresting things like that as they seem entirely too busy chasing BS hype topics such as LLMs. — l4mpi 41 secs ago
 
 
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12:32 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by George Stocker
For the folks commenting of wanting a charter without legal force behind it — that’s farther than we are now but still insufficient to protect the integrity of the Q&A governance model. — George Stocker 10 secs ago
 
1:20 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by AJM
I've edited this list to include stackoverflow.co, since meta.stackexchange.com/questions/396794/… linked to policies.stackoverflow.co/data-request - and hence confirmed it was an official domain. Though I did check to make sure the .co was not a typo for .com. — AJM 42 secs ago
 
1:55 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ColleenV
@starball The contact form is for complaints about abuses of power, not for just general "I want to give my mod team feedback but I don't want them to know who it's from". There may be a better way to anonymize the feedback than sending it through the CM team. I don't think a general site survey would be all that useful, because it doesn't really capture anonymous actionable feedback. I can't even give you a real example of the type of feedback I'm thinking of, because I don't want the mod that might read it to feel attacked. I'm comfortable giving that feedback directly; not everyone is. — ColleenV 30 secs ago
 
2:10 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by tripleee
I don't want to reveal the email address here, but if it helps, I tried the display name SOC Puppet at least on the last two attempts. — tripleee 13 secs ago
 
2:22 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
Hi DeepBlue, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 24 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ColleenV
@KevinB I would like to see support for network-wide community discoverability, maybe a company liaison, the ability to designate leadership and control membership, etc. I'm thinking of the guild systems in games where people can find like-minded people to play with and communities can recruit more members. I don't like SE chat at all. I'd rather see user communities be able to use SE chat, Discord, Teamspeak, or whatever best suits them. — ColleenV 58 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by AJM
I've edited a list of Stack Overflow domains in a different answer to include stackoverflow.co. Any objections to my editing it into this answer? It's used for the data request URL (policies.stackoverflow.co/data-request) — AJM 43 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ColleenV
@Richard I don't think it's a bad thing if a user community has a very particular POV. I think if we had a hundred user communities we would have more diverse perspectives with elevated visibility even if each of those communities were only representing one view of things. — ColleenV 53 secs ago
 
3:13 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
Silly question, but did you make sure to use a separate browser profile, or guest mode, including with the registration confirmation link? (i.e. just clicking it in the same browser as you're now using for this account isn't going to work.) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 21 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by tripleee
All if this happened on a pristine incognito tab, yes. — tripleee 19 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
No repro, created that profile just now. — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 8 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rand al'Thor
"The sole intent of changing that process was to keep one person from ever being a moderator again" - I don't want to rehash old drama, but weren't there a whole bunch of moderators who left on bad terms and would never have been remodded under a simple "I want to be a mod again" -> "ok!" process? Examples on SF and SFF spring to mind, probably lots of others that I haven't encountered. — Rand al'Thor 35 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
Just to make sure again, you opened the confirmation link in the same browser instance as the one where you had this page? If not, it might be the problem. — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 52 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
Carl, I see your point and I would be really thrilled (really, not joking here) if you'll take Stack Exchange and change it from the core to be something better. However, in the way it's built and working now, I just fully agree with @Aaron, he said exactly what I would have said either, and in a better way. :) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 37 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
@AaronBertrand also, can you throw a status-review tag here? — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by tripleee
Just now, trying again from my phone, attempting to register at Unix & Linux, I get "Something went wrong. Please contact us at community-support@stackoverflow.email for assistance." — tripleee 58 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by tripleee
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda No, my email lives in a different tab entirely, essentially on a different computer. — tripleee 46 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda Unfortunately, I'm not the one who decides if or when this will get reviewed by engineers. (Which is not the same thing as me taking a look, or even confirming that I can reproduce the behavior.) I've mentioned it to someone, they said "curious," but given that it's a Monday morning after a hard weekend, I'm going to give them some time. — Aaron Bertrand 22 secs ago
 
3:46 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
So that might be the problem, i.e. the "normal" workflow is the user opening the email and link in same browser. — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 53 secs ago
 
4:17 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
Hi Arignan sritharan, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 35 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shog9
Hard to say, @Rand - there were certainly cases where moderators were forcibly de-modded for various reasons and later reinstated. The two examples you cite could have gone that way in theory, although practically speaking it would've required the folks involved to respond to emails. OTOH, I can think of at least 2 cases where former mods were removed for violating the ToS (leaking PII) which would've been a problem. And one case where the removal involved violating US law. So it is probably the case that we should have had a process for this... — Shog9 13 secs ago
 
4:31 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@Jesse what SO needs is the mods having the freedom to properly handle AI/LLM flags. — Kevin B 10 secs ago
 
4:47 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by tripleee
I now seem to get "something went wrong" for all my attempts, including with a different email address. — tripleee 7 secs ago
 
5:27 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by V2Blast
@Torque: That definitely seems like it'd be a good answer! Even if it's not the exact method OP asked about, if it solves their problem, then it should be posted as an answer. — V2Blast 33 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Spevacus
Hi Marco6573, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Spevacus just now
 
5:45 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ColleenV
The code of conduct requires properly referencing any text that you did not write yourself, including text generated by AI. See: meta.stackexchange.com/help/referencingColleenV 41 secs ago
 
6:39 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Giacomo1968
Great answer and great work! And thanks again for the hard work resolving this as well as the post-mortem. “While it has been the case for several recent maintenance windows, I think it's confusing that they disappear from the status page once they're resolved.” I agree with this. Hopefully some compromise of functionality can be made to better accommodate edges cases. — Giacomo1968 6 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@This_is_NOT_a_forum it isnt any more clear to me, someone who has resided in the us for… a long time — Kevin B 53 secs ago
 
7:00 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Spevacus
Hi Lavender, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — Spevacus 41 secs ago
 
 
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8:30 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Michael come lately
Not to be overly cynical, but even after you (hypothetically) get your non-profit, you will still be fending off speculators. All it takes is sitting on something valuable for someone to (try to) take it from you. See the .ORG registrar fight. — Michael come lately 46 secs ago
 
8:57 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
One of the best answers I've ever seen. Thanks, and keep up the awesome job! — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 29 secs ago
 
9:11 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ColleenV
I just came across this post of mine about making sure the nomination pages consistently have a link to the moderator agreement. I think it is important that candidates know what they have to agree to prior to nominating themselves. maybe even proactively agree to it so that it takes effect upon winning an election: meta.stackexchange.com/q/383593/273494ColleenV 19 secs ago
 
9:26 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by phil1008
This issue is not fixed - I'm experiencing it right now on the Space Exploration site. Also, my displayed score is a bit out of date. — phil1008 19 secs ago
 
9:54 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Richard
"Very poorly", given the constant stream of posts about inappropriate advertising. — Richard 8 secs ago
 
10:39 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Laf
"since validating the absence of a problem can be challenging" Especially when you are not 100% confident in the fix you have implemented, I feel you. Thanks for this message, this is a great answer! Especially appreciate the "y'all" simplification, now I understand ;) — Laf 13 secs ago
 
10:54 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Carl
@AaronBertrand Thank-you in advance for your efforts. I am heartened that you are taking this on, that you care about issues. There are so many issues that it is disheartening. — Carl 22 secs ago
 
11:06 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
@Carl Please try to keep in mind that you're using a free platform. We have time and resource trade-offs to consider every day, just like software companies that charge their users money. And while it would be really heartening if we could "just fix all the bugs" - it simply isn't realistic for any software company to do that. There's always a growing list. So, we must prioritize things that are serious issues for people higher than cosmetic things, as an example, even if the latter might be easier. Every fix, big or small, has overhead associated with it - tests, deployments, and so on. — Aaron Bertrand 11 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
And I'm not saying this is in one category or the other. Just reacting to "so many issues" - try to consider how many of those so many issues actually make it hard for you to use the platform. The one over the weekend that I was surprised about was how adamant people are that a search result showing the same tag name twice during the 10 minutes a quarter we're read-only for maintenance was a serious problem that needs to be fixed. :-) — Aaron Bertrand 11 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
as someone following this question to get notified about the fix to the problem, getting numerous pings about wider discussion about bugs being fixed is annoying. could that discussion please be taken elsewhere? — starball 34 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
@starball you got it. — Aaron Bertrand just now
 
11:48 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by ColleenV
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Thanks — I had a vague memory around something like that for content… I’d like to know what the current process is to ensure that ads are complying with the retargeting pixel policy and user consent. settings. — ColleenV 6 secs ago
 

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