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Q: Is it appropriate to ask a Stack Exchange question to generate or locate citations for a site like Wikipedia?

Rowan HawkinsFirst, since this is meta, I am keeping the question somewhat broad about the topics in question to be more applicable, while trying to keep the scope fairly narrow for the essence of the specific question. I know that Stack Exchange specifically allows attribution to posts being considered as an...

@RowanHawkins You can have a look at the response I got on Mathematics Meta to this question: Questions concerning editing of Wikipedia articles. (It is definitely not the same question as your - but it is at least a bit similar. It is related to editing Wikipedia articles, too. I should also add that the question is rather old - the site has change quite a bit since then.) — Martin 9 hours ago
@Martin that actually helped a bunch, especially the discussion in the comments which helped me understand that I want to use SE to do is "ask someone knowledgeable" and then go find a source if one isn't provided. Frankly even on SE, I try to reference primary sources when answering questions, and over time I have started to make sure that when I am giving my opinion that I clarify it as such. I am trying to combat my own habit, which I have seen spoken about in other media, of stating authoritative opinions unless I am posting on my own blog. — Rowan Hawkins 1 hour ago
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A: Is it appropriate to ask a Stack Exchange question to generate or locate citations for a site like Wikipedia?

Journeyman GeekWell - except in exceptional situations, SE's never a primary source. I'd break down the answer to this question into 2 parts Is the question on topic, and askable on the site Does this build on "primary" research I did myself I'm personally unsure there's a 'great' way to reference a secondary...

I prefer to use Primary sources on Wikipedia, and on SE. However in the case I implied, it took me a couple of days to figure out what the acronym was. Once I did that, it was easy to look locate a primary resource for the particular case. Wikipedia does not want to be the source of 'own work,' and it really isn't great to generate your own work for an answer. When familiar with a topic however it is easy to locate published sources. matching the need. In this case it was a topic I was learning about. So my thought was to ask on a topical SE and then use that to find a regular source. — Rowan Hawkins 2 hours ago
 
 
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room topic changed to Stack Exchange and Wikipedia: Related to some recent questions and to discussions about SE and WP in general [wikipedia]
In case somebody would like to check some articles on Wikipedia that link to Stack Exchange:
 
 
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I did not want to make the comment thread here too long - so I created a chatroom Stack Exchange and Wikipedia and I posted some stuff there. (For example, you can see there how to search for Wikipedia articles which refer to some Stack Exchange site.) — Martin 23 mins ago
 
 
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Does Wikipedia have some guidelines and discussions about Stack Exchange on their pages describing editing articles.
The article Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources has a big table - where one of the entries is Stack Exchange.
This is a non-exhaustive list of sources whose reliability and use on Wikipedia are frequently discussed. This list summarizes prior consensus and consolidates links to the most in-depth and recent discussions from the reliable sources noticeboard and elsewhere on Wikipedia. Click here to jump to the list of frequently-discussed sources.Context matters tremendously, and some sources may or may not be suitable for certain uses depending on the situation. When in doubt, defer to the linked discussions for more detailed information on a particular source and its use. Consensus can change, and if...
The symbols in that table are explained here: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources § Legend.
 
 
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A: Is it appropriate to ask a Stack Exchange question to generate or locate citations for a site like Wikipedia?

Journeyman GeekWell - except in exceptional situations, SE's never a primary source. I'd break down the answer to this question into 2 parts Is the question on topic, and askable on the site Does this build on "primary" research I did myself I'm personally unsure there's a 'great' way to reference a secondary...

Indeed. It's not just about what SE has to say on the matter, it's possible Wikipedia won't like the construction either. — Mast 14 hours ago
I'm just a tiny bit frustrated I feel like I'm missing half the answer cause of that, and would appreciate someone filling in that part in their own answer . Quite a bit too! — Journeyman Geek ♦ 14 hours ago
I prefer to use Primary sources on Wikipedia, and on SE. However in the case I implied, it took me a couple of days to figure out what the acronym was. Once I did that, it was easy to look locate a primary resource for the particular case. Wikipedia does not want to be the source of 'own work,' and it really isn't great to generate your own work for an answer. When familiar with a topic however it is easy to locate published sources. matching the need. In this case it was a topic I was learning about. So my thought was to ask on a topical SE and then use that to find a regular source. — Rowan Hawkins 12 hours ago
The comment from martin above in the question about his question in the Math Meta, actually helped me clarify that a bunch in my head. — Rowan Hawkins 12 hours ago
Re: I've no idea what wikipedia considers about the notability of SE as a primary source. I am not experienced enough with Wikipedia to answer that, but I thought it is worth at least adding a link to this: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. (The table contains Stack Exchange - among many other sources. I have also added screenshot of the relevant parts in chat.) — Martin 5 hours ago
I wouldn't even know that 😅 — Journeyman Geek ♦ 5 hours ago
 

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