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Q: Should/do we discourage edits, by privileged users or not, to off-topic questions that will end up deleted?

OllieThis is not a duplicate of Is "don't polish turds" a valid rejection reason"?. We want to prevent those edits from getting into the queue in the first place. That also focuses primarily on suggested edits; this one includes ones from privileged users and a suggestion that we put a "When not to ...

 
Animuson already answered this sufficiently.
 
@bad_coder: Eh. We want to prevent those edits getting into the queue so as not to waste our time in the first place (this also applies to 2K+ users). I also suggested that we add a "When not to edit" section to the edit privileges page for those that do read it, so all in all, that doesn't seem like a great duplicate, IMHO.
I could rewrite it to focus on the FR for the "When not to edit" section...
 
Personally, I used to not agree with the answer to the duplicate question, because it didn't consider the fact that edits to closed questions used to usurp the question's one entry by edit into the reopen queue. Now that an edit to a closed question doesn't always automatically push the question into the reopen review queue, I'm substantially less against such edits. They are something of a waste of time, but some of the edits aren't (e.g. an edit helps with formatting and then the OP makes a substantial edit, but wouldn't have known about or how to fix formatting issues).
 
@Ollie besides, there are thousands of posts on MSO raising this same issue, and certainly there'll be a dozen doing the same on MSE. So this is an Nth dup, no doubt.
 
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@bad_coder SO is a very big site. This doesn't just happen there; I'd like it to bee seen elsewhere on the network. I would at least like the edit page to be updated, both to help us all out and to prevent the epidemic you foresee.
 
@Ollie like I said, an Nth dup.
 
Unfortunately I suspect the intersection of "people who have read the edit privileges page" and "people who make inappropriate edit suggestions" is approximately zero.
 
@RobertLongson Eh, I disagree (with the link above, not the people who have read the edit privs page). Users shouldn't be punished for suggesting a rejected edit; a lot of my SO edits are rejected because another one, sometimes lower-quality, interfered with it.
 
I'm with you, Ollie. Off-topic posts that are doomed to be deleted don't need their comma splice sentences to be fixed etc. etc. Edit a closed unanswered question if you feel it stands a chance of being reopened but if you know it's going to get sucked up by the roomba, why fix it?
 
@Ollie after edit, it's still an Nth dup (an Nth dup, is still an Nth dup).
 
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@bad_coder Perhaps you link some of these dupes.
 
I already linked enough dupes.
 
@bad_coder You have linked one dupe that I can see, which Ollie has addressed. Please link one of these apparently numerous dupes.
 
@bad_coder You've linked one that (others have also linked before you did) I (and others) can see. Please don't say there are thousands if you can't link at least two (or three).
 
@Spevacus so, edit spam - 932, minor edit - 124 useless edit - 77. How many combinations do you need? Ollie tried to change question into further changing the edit privilege page, but that's also certainly been proposed with the answer it should be kept simple - I'll leave it to you to find those dups.
 
@bad_coder There are a lot of flaws. 1), you've not even bothered to give specific results - I could type collectives into the MSE search bar and come up with 400+ results that have nothing to do with what's being asked. 2), if you're going to say that there are many many many dupes, link directly to those questions! Don't leave it up to to find duplicates - if you accuse, you have proof to back it up. This is also, again, not about editing spam. That's kind of... unhelpful, besides VTCing with a duplicate others have already linkd.
 
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@Spevacus and lets not forget, this question is initially phrased as: "lets correct users in the comments" iow Should/do we discourage edits). This to me seems seriously misguided, it suggests bothering people in the comments because you don't agree with their edits. As Ollie says: "I've seen a couple of users making edits". He must mean ME, because he did bother me in the comments more than once (there are actually guidelines against doing so). What's more, the reason I edited was muscle memory, at 400 edits/week I kinda just edit...
 
@bad_coder Please look at the user that edited the off-topic question in the review link above. Why would I mean you? And again, link please, to when I've bothered you. And if I have seriously bothered you, I apologize.
 
@Ollie I'm not a link finding service (but I do find this thread lacks research on the topic of editing). I am, however, on this editing leaderboard and as I said, those prolific editors wouldn't take kindly on being bothered amidst their curation by someone who edits less in years than they do in a week. In fact, I've found them all to be liberal about editing in general which is perhaps the key to their productivity.
 
 
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There are good edits. There are harmless edits There are poor edits. There are pointless edits. And then there are edits on posts that are doomed to be dumped.
 

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