We don't agree on everything, but I must say this is the most thoughtful and intelligent post I have read on SE, ever. English may not be your first language but you say more in a few words than some native speakers can fit into a entire post. Reading your post is like drinking from a fountain on a hot summer day. Thank you for taking the time to read through my post (even the shorter one is pretty long) and for writing this. I will save it for reading on later occasions. There is some magical harmony in your writing that help me find the balance of forces. Thank you again and much obliged.

I just saw a question of yours (lol sorry the downvoters are following you around). There is a service called Grammerly, which I never used. But according to demos in their youtube ads, it seems to do a reasonable job fixing the small things. Not my recommendation, but maybe worth trying. Also, I just got a new post up as a conclusion to this ordeal. Thought you might be interested. There is a little bit about you in the post :)

I red it, and I am honoured, can't help but think that perhaps you gave me too much worth for a single comment. Thank you!

yeah, It seems that I attracted some persistent downvoters in last week's. But you gotta play the game to earn the seat. I don't mind it (sometimes) , I don't place any of value in reputation , therefore if I get to 0, banned and discarded and it wouldn't make me angry. That question was a query to see how server react to the non questioning questions with best intentions. It is not -inf so I call it a win :)

I just read through your "Organised keyword system". Very good ideas for an architect!!! (Can't comment or enter chat, so have to continue here) See, it's precisely what I am getting at. When you try to match users with posts, there are tons of magic you can play here, including semantics hiearchy.

EVERYBODY ELSE is doing this. Type something on google and it will correct your spelling error and search for things with similar semantics, like "convert" vs "cast" if enough people think they mean the same thing. SE on the other hand, hasn't changed a bit since 2010. (Now it's obvious why!) Much research has already been done for natural languages. SE is in the best position (and also with the best financial incentives) to do the same for programming languages, but they are just busy pleasing the long time users.

Btw, the past tense of read is also written as read by pronounced as red.

well if we keep this up , a chat will present itself. (in echo "if you build it , it will come"). Thnx for the correction... i was pondering past tense for read for some time now (too busy and lazy to Google it). in chat I tried to go more in depth why Google algorithm isn't suitable for knowledge base as stack. Judging by BuzzFeed. Google sorts it's results on popular vote (links pointing to it) instead of the contents. This is suitable for hip engine but in knowledge one tends to have long lasting answer with little changes, such as axioms and truths.

Exactly. Truth doesn't arise out of popular vote. Otherwise we would still be in the dark age, thinking the earth is flat.Einsteins paper would have ended up in the garbage can. What other websites aren't doing well, SE is doing here, and not only doing, but overdoing. Kinda disappointing.

Valuable answers often tend to have high incoming traffic, but little change frequency. That is why news are for paper (disregarded after a day ) and knowledge in pin boards. Chat wasn't very lucrative (in ideas) but it was great as sounding board. Thinking about contacting Devs later on to pitch the idea. The reason why it sounds solid is because I stole some features from other platforms ;) long live plagiarism. I am fully open to the any corrections , fleshing out you have to offer. Critiques are welcome :) and wished for.

"user ???? has only 2 reputation, can't enter chat" Since when have I become user ??? Anyway, good luck with your proposal. Let me know how it goes!

but I think in order to make an best solution , the downvoters (og mods) new blood and critics would need to sit down and discuss. New blood would generate new (sometimes ludacris ideas) , og mods would be very helpful for in deep insight, and critics to keep everything rational and on ground.

I will ponder it to see how I can include you in some conversations later on. The rep limitations are just cruel... know any chat rooms that are completely vacant?

The thing is, there are obviously many people who would look at your rep and think "stupid newbie". Also, one thing I seriously did not consider in my original post as the reason why people want to come here is "the feeling of superiority". By the way, here is the original list I came up with: (a) the fun of sharing what they know (b) the challenge of new problems (c) the joy of helping others (d) the respect of their peers (e) the approval of their colleagues (f) building their resumes (g) earning points

What I proposed would ruin some people's "feeling of superiority", so cannot be adopted. Yeah can't enter any chat. Guess the limitation is coded in chat room scripts.

Again, good luck with your proposal (talking to the company people directly will be a much better idea than trying to start something here). I don't think I will be of much help (can't even upvote, lol) so I am going to take a break from this and enjoy life :) It's really nice knowing you.

I strongly disagree about feeling of superiority. Nietzsche did mention something to be inate in us "the will for power" based ( or tied to) upon Inferiority and Imperiority complexes from Adler but I am more akin to trust Adler. Good reads if you have time. And , I am stupid newbie ... I am and there is no denying that. I have no intricate knowledge how this website worked , works. All I can see is the tip of the iceberg. Are you open to change respect and aproval to credibility?

I have to be honest now, and please don't take it wrong. I get that you are angry now on society here ( with solid reasons behind ) , but I am no "yes" man. I think that perhaps currently you are still under influence of what happened to you, and that influence is showing trough your writing ( even in this discussion ). I think it can cloud your message, since normally people will focus more on what produces most affect in them. I think that it is important that your message gets to people. You can of course still be angry, but try to control it so it doesn't overtake your message.

I hope I didn't offend you in any manner. Also likewise . It is nice chatting with you. Well chat some more :)

I am not saying people should enjoy the feeling of superiority. But I hope you do agree that many people like and enjoy the feeling that they are superior to others?

And what I am getting at with "stupid newbie" is prejudice. The rep system encourages prejudice. It's like how people used to think that if someone belongs to a certain race then he/she must be unintelligent or lazy. Sorry my writing is wild and tend to cause misunderstanding sometimes ... No I am not angry. You know when you have been thinking about something intensively for several days, there are lots of processes running (a computer analogy), it takes a little time to kill them one by one.

I am certainly NOT saying you are stupid. You are probably the most intelligent person on the entire Meta. Really. It's just when you have low rep, others quickly assume you know nothing. This is what I was getting at. I know my writing can be confusing sometimes. Today there seems to be a huge delay but when the connection is faster maybe we can exchange emails without others following, so that we can have a reliable (not dependent on rep :D ) and private communication channel to talk about stuff. It seems we have a lot in common.

heeey:) awesome :) it worked :)

so the main issue here is broad generalization. Even if might be true ( in some occasions ) i tend to disregard any argument that doesn't include randomness and causality of human behaviour.

I dont think people like and enjoy feeling of superiority. Adler postulated the concepts of Inferiority and Imperiority . And i do agree with him. People who tend to seek power or superiority often lack power in other ways of the life and then compensate on other field. That is why people tend to act superior is to protect theirown ego. But if we were to remove ego from equation, people are people. And those assholes are just you and me.

Nothing more/less to it [in my expirience ].

So judging by your blogs and your comments so far, it is clearly visible you are from US where race and other issues are big... but the thing is... it really isn't.

Im white ( if you couldn't guess from cat photo :P ) and i never saw any issues with race until i started watching American shows. Not that issues don't exist, but solving problems ( such as inequality ) is well not possible. If everyone is equal and unique , noone is equal. Take for example modern feminism. Currently media grasps and every female actress asking them "what is like to be woman... " in that field and by trying to be open to equality and uniqueness ...

they are giving rise to the oposite.

The thing about superiority is that is shows its ugly head only if someone is under attack.

Otherwise it is life day per day as usual

so i veiw superiority as a shield to human nature not as a desiese.

But that is just me.

Every system promotes prejudice, that is why our systems are flawed and ever evolving. There is no system in world that did not start with good intentions but ended bad along the way. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make it better ( this might just be my young age speaking trough my butt ).

And as i said before ( falling back to Adler ) i am an stupid newbie. But being stupid newbie in one segment doesn't charachtise me since i can be genius in another. And that is all i am, a bunch of equalising spectrums that range from stupid idiot to -> stupid newbie -> meh -> not bad -> bloody genius. We all are.

Hell... i don't know if you can find my country on stack ( dunno if i wrote it )... but in the 90s we did some stupid fucking shit... and yeah bunch of people now have prejustice about us. I've heard a bunch of Americans,Germans, French people, English ...etc.... who came to live in my country say "people thought i am going to leave, and end up dead somewhere"... and i understood the fear, and to be honest it is justified.

We can't avoid prejudice, but we can take it with a grain of salt. The thing is , in each communication it is important to show good faith, but people tend to be scared to offer an hand and not lose the arm.

I am back! Thanks to Monica who opened the room for us (that is what a good mod should do!)

Fear, my friend, is our only enemy. And we can battle it not by force but by trying to be as not frightening as we can be.

Yeah i think we didn't gave her any choice. The choice was to clutter the post or go in chatroom... and stack isn't very friendly about cluttering

Also good to have you back! :D

Again, beautiful writing! "People who tend to seek power or superiority often lack power in other ways of the life and then compensate on other field. " That is what I feel about some people here. And this is a vicious cycle: newbies coming in, getting bullied, feeling the need for power, getting more reps and more power, and going on to bully other newbies.

i tend to interrupt people when they are writing so please say when you are finished with your thought.

But as you said (and I am rephrasing poorly), what's the big deal? It's just a game. I think I am going to take a break from this. A guy is constantly following me around replying to my every comment with a stupid comment trying to get me annoyed, so I am going to step away from this. But before I go, I think your idea is a great starting point (let me send first).

So, here is the situation: the company is obviously unable to effect any serious changes because the high rep users will try to block any significant changes, and the company is afraid of losing them because they are the governing class of the entire SE social hierarchy. But the nice thing is, the company is pretty good at making their data available freely, so if you have an idea, go ahead and download their data, build your idea and give it a run on the data. (send)

If it works well, then go and show the company, look, do you want this?

I am done typing :)

if you take a break, make sure it isn't permanent one ... come back sometimes...and even if those guys keep following you around ... we'll try to find a way to question the authority without questioning it. :D :P

Lol! But unless you want your rep to drop back to 2, don't follow my example ;P

Go talk to the company people (Shog9 is one of them, he has his contact info in his profile).

As you mentioned ( poorly paraphrased ) that was an solid idea from Architect. Yeah, i am not educated programmer/coder ... i will try to take some presentation or something with ideas and data but having good idea is nothing if you dont find the way to pitch it. SO it would take some time....definitely. But i will try, and since i have a day job... it will take some time. But judging by reception .... i have all the time in the world :D :P

What can i say that i don't know how to use SQL...

enough said :D

im done

OK, let me send you a few links:

They have a pretty good tutorial:

data.stackexchange.com/tutorial

You can try running some queries here (or modify other people's queries):

data.stackexchange.com

This is a useful reference:

And they do a dump once every month (I believe), and I am lookning for the link ...

Ahh, stupid me, the link is in the linked reference:

archive.org/details/stackexchange

So you can (pretty much) download the entire SE to your computer and play with it.

Now, once you have mastered sql, the next step is to look into NLP:

The semantics network I mentioned is just a small part of NLP research. You will probably find lots of papers and code that you can use towards your "programing language semantics hierarchy".

If you have questions that don't get any answers (but get lots of downvotes), come try me! I will try my best to help you.

Done typing :)

Hooooolyyyyyy..... **********

O.o

tnx

i am lost for words

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sorry ... looks like i have no excuse now not to do it.

now i am done

Oh, forgot to mention. College websites often have rich resources (lecture slides, lecture notes, book references, note) on NLP, machine learning and AI in general. So when you look for something, google with site:edu to find the high quality resources.

Yeah, I have been thinking about doing it myself. it's just I have tons of things going on and don't have time for it (If I had spent the time I spent here arguing with people on something else, I would probably have got somewhere already ...)

Ha, can actually edit

Done typing :)

How about colaboration then ? I am currently in proccess grabing masters degree, and working on neural genetics network.

It is obvious we are both busy. So why don't we take a month/two to ponder the idea , and see if the at least 1 hour a day opens up to work together. If 1 hour a day opens up ...we will work, otherwise no harm no faul.

done.

Sounds good! Just curious, "neural genetics network" is a new term to me. Is it neural network with genetics programming (artificial evolution) or something else?

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yeah ... something along the lines. It is an neural network where each neuron has its genetic structure. So if we think about neuron as virtual machine, the genetic structure (rna) would define an instruction set, breeding and mutation is defined by dimensional logic so every neuron is also able to evolve and change itself while still being into the larger whole

after i am finished with that i am in negotiations with a buddy working in nuclear facility to make it physical ( bytes and bits can be easily translated into circuits )... and therefore make an brain with limited memory.

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sorry ... think unix based system with genetics and brain. :D

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Cool! So yes, neutral network + genetic programming. And custom hardware as well???

By nuclear facility you mean quantum computing facility?

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Or something like this:

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similar.

quite similar, but it has to have dimensional logic, my whole postulate is formed on that. So AND/OR/XOR/NOT gates go out of the window. I need an small ALU of +- operators and that is that

the FPGA goes out of my knowledge base, but from what i understand from it. It is similar. I've built a proto circuit for neuron ( with my very stupid newbie basic circuit skills ) and all i needed is 4 Dflops, 3 custom gates and bit shifter.

By nuclear facility ... i mean nuclear facility... to be more exact nuclear waste facility. He did finish the school for this, and is currently maintaining their engines.

So yeah custom hardware... my estimation would be of 255 constant instruction sets, an distribution set( generating RNA from instruction sets ), and that is all.

Now my technical vocabulary isn't as advanced as literary.

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Wow, built from scratch! Very cool. The most low-level thing I tried is assembly. Of course I use to mess with computer hardware but not at the circuit level.

One thing you might be interested in

No, not my comment ... his post might interest you. My comment is not interesting lol

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I can see the cylindric algebra but i can't see post.... unless cylindric algebra is what you meant... please repost it.

Sorry:

Of course with just one gate you will probably need a much bigger network to express the same thing, so there is trade off

Have you simulated your circuit on the computer?

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Am... it isn't cylindrical algebra. I've managed to find a way to get from presence, not presence ( without defining always true/false ) to linear relationship ( whcih projection onto zeroth dimension gave me 2 more logic gates ( beside AND,OR,NOT,XOR,XAND ) for undefined sets, and then from third dimension in can be converted back into linear and onto point.

I had to simulate it, if i didn't simulate it i couldn't build it. It is a safe bet than to mumble in the dark.

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think about it as boolean converting to ternary, to 8 logic values, back to ternary , back to boolean

really done now

ahh, that helps

I was trying to guess what you were saying lol

yeah, I guess I need to go to sleep now

Sorry mate :D have a pleasant dreams :D

the excitement of chatting with you kept me going but i am so exhausted from arguing with people here that i can probably sleep for the whole day tomorrow

well if you don't have any obligations, go for it

Anyway, good luck on your masters project!!! (And side project if you choose to do it :) I will try to come back often :)

Really nice chatting with you!

Bye

Bye