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02:04
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike This place is very addictive.
@AndreasdetestsAIhype when I was new, I was roughly at 1 APD :D
 
5 hours later…
07:36
@AndreasdetestsAIhype like alcohol?
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack coke. :D
Brown liquid or white powder tho
I'll take the liquid, thanks. :D
help! the chat system is very slow!
07:45
but but
but + t = btut
For more fun facts, contact me.
lol is the full version of ioi
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I certainly won't.
@ElementsinSpace cries in despair
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Okay, okay. One more.
07:57
cupcake is ready in Den, everyone invited to take a byte. ;)
@ElementsinSpace yay! but busy easting cupcake at the moment! :D
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack bites a little and relaxing
waiting for the drug to affect
:-P
fells to the bed with drug
censored
Good, need to get working again. Cya later! :D
@PetLinux Define slow
08:03
/what?
I mean compared to what?
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike compared to normal speed, e.g. 100ms for posting a message to chat
.... stop timing it, that's just wierd ;D
but I often should wait a 3-5 seconds to post it because a timeout!
08:07
its telling you to relax
RELAX
hmm
/but\
\but/
I'm was relaxed just now in past don't know how to do short pronunciation!! :D
short pronounciation?
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike yes ‮!egaugnal niam ym ton si hsilgnE ym
@PetLinux Just change "I'm was ..." to "I was ...".
@ElementsinSpace whoa wow
08:16
@PetLinux "I'm" is the contracted form of "I am", and "am" is present tense. "Was" is past tense.
@ElementsinSpace thank you for explaining!
But don't be tense, be relaxed.
interesting. images are hidden here, but displayed in review item. Who wants to create a BR? :)
@αλεχολυτ the first link is only for 10kers
@PetLinux i know
08:20
or just broken link
@αλεχολυτ remember grammar! I pronoun should be uppercase! :D
all my links are live :)
@PetLinux say it to barakin :)
@αλεχολυτ lol
@αλεχολυτ no bug. Keeping us safe from images in a post marked spam.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack bug, cause it's visible on review queue
@αλεχολυτ well need to click a lot to see it, but yeah.... so feel free to submit bug report. I'm on strike, as many others here.
08:38
‮...gub eht dnatsrednu t'nod llitS
@PetLinux you have to earn 10k on MSE to see... and understand
@αλεχολυτ ‮D: !troper gub dnes ot evah I ESM no k01 nrae ot tub kO
@PetLinux there's a log other bugs to report before reaching 10k. And of course you can earn reputation by answering as well.
@αλεχολυτ Answering is not about me I think
 
1 hour later…
10:12
@αλεχολυτ umm better for him not to see. lol
(might be under 18)
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Maybe? I’ve never tried it, so I wouldn’t know, but I’ve seen how others are devoured by it.
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike APD?
@AndreasdetestsAIhype yeah it all depends on how much you take, of course. But that reminds me, saw quite a few cases over the years of people who actually got addicted to SE, for real, and found it very hard to detach themselves.
Are you talking about that funny spammer posting bunny images on every post about SE’s AI venture, and a few more?
@AndreasdetestsAIhype the discussion with @αλεχολυτ? yes. It was just given as example though.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Oh, to SE? Yes, I was one of them.
10:15
@AndreasdetestsAIhype was? How you got over it?
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Those were some really sexy pictures, weren’t they? mhmhmhm
There are MSE discussions about it, you can post answer if/when strike is over. ;)
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Clearly I didn’t. Why else would I be here?
@AndreasdetestsAIhype lol
That's no addiction.
10:16
hmm
It's like 2 cups of wine every day, not harmful. ;)
@AndreasdetestsAIhype well, sadly in most countries people believe it might hurt the gentle mind of those who didn't see 18 summers yet. :D
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Oh, really? Maybe that’s why I’m so broken, because I saw that stuff after just 5-6 summers.
@PetLinux when post has images and deleted as spam, images are "hidden" even in revisions. But when viewing the post via review, there is no spam mask and it's all out in the open. That's the bug.
@AndreasdetestsAIhype totally explain things. ;)
But it's boring, the troll use same image all the time. :(
5 minutes later...
5 trolls later...
5 shadows later...
@Journeyman Geek, enjoy these happy dog!
10:31
chewing waffle
can't take picture, waffle is no more.
If you really want, can take the "after" picture in 6-8 hours. :D
You mean that?
Question
How do I ping a user with a known user ID?
@PetLinux nope. This:
10:41
@PetLinux Answer
@PetLinux can't do it directly.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Question
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Can I do that not directly?
Though that was balpha's latest idea, but he never got the time to implement it.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack That's not waffles, that's wafers.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack :(
@PetLinux sure, change this URL https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/XXX by replacing XXX with the id, then copy and paste the display name, removing spaces.
10:43
This is an way I already know. ;)
@PetLinux so why did you ask? puzzled
:D
@ElementsinSpace hmm hard to remember, it's the same in Hebrew. :(
@Sha Once upon a time I saw this:
@PetLinux super ping
When mod types @@ they can type id, maybe it even give a drop down, dunno.
An interesting for newbies. ;)
11:01
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Yeah, if you type @@ and then a username, it gives you a list of possible users.
@PetLinux Yes, that's moderator-only.
11:50
(re-post of same question that was deleted after 10 downvotes.)
Second time they waited only for three, and doubt there'll be third attempt.
12:10
@AndreasdetestsAIhype answers per day
12:25
Such insanity.
12:38
I have 1 SPD.
12:53
Severe prickling dissonance?
Sex per day?
@AndreasdetestsAIhype I had a lot more energy then 😁
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack meta.stackexchange.com/a/390674/135565 check the profile. I bet there's an edit coming
@AndreasdetestsAIhype nope
@AndreasdetestsAIhype I wish!
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike I did, but when I see accounts with rep on them I dismiss spammer option.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Only 1 per day? Huh.
@AndreasdetestsAIhype never had it. :(
cries
Best was perhaps 1 SPW, if anything, but my original "S" is for different word anyway. :P
One letter longer.
Or two? hmm
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack :(
13:07
Hint: 1 SPW will be very eww.
@AndreasdetestsAIhype it's OK, I got used to it. :D
Maybe same as favorite food that you can't have every day. ;)
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I’d love to have squids and shrimps every day.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Better not mention it in here, then.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack sinister painful word
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/21069/… looks cgptish as well
@AndreasdetestsAIhype so why don't you have? ;)
@AndreasdetestsAIhype too late! I did. ;)
@RocketNikita oh, those I have 100 per day. :D
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike yeah, well, maybe I'll ask SE to give medal to that user. :P
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack 100 SPW
13:20
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack if not for the whole mess going on I'd flag it but yanno
funny thing is their SO profile looks less spammy
But if its not an answer and it dosen't work... it should be there :D
remind me when the strike is over and We'll see what we can do
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike flag?? You mean nuke out of orbit.... :D
lol
It looks sus and is multi site so.... flag it elsewhere too
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Expensive, and too lazy to cook. Last time I saw squids selling around here, it was 1000 NOK for not a lot of it.
@AndreasdetestsAIhype that's 5 bus rides! :(
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike ah, if only AI content was banned...
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Honestly a 'random' user finding a broken/non answer feels even worse than anything else that could happen
13:33
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike and mods are not allowed to delete that wrong answer.
Well not exactly
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike well, if it's of fair quality.
We're not explicitly disallowed from it
people are discouraged from telling us to.
There's a difference :D
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike how can you prove it's AI generated if no method is accepted by SE?
Well, hypothetically, do I need to?
Its VLQ and can be treated as such
If there hadn't been a strike, I'd have considered creatively re-interpreting the rules :D
13:56
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike like the bible! :D
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I saw a bizarre spam post yesterday on SpaceExploration.SE. It was promoting a US government service that provides free stuff to people on low incomes. The URL looked legit, but I didn't click it. The post contained the line "However, as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021" so we can be fairly certain it was produced using ChatGPT.
@PM2Ring oh we know spammers are using that
@PM2Ring doubt it's enough for SE. In case spammer whines to them, anyone responsible for deletion will be kicked and shamed.
It was safe to delete because it was totally nothing like an answer to the OP's question.
@PM2Ring tell that in contact form after you get network wide suspension, served cold, for that. lol
(sadly, it can happen. I believe it will happen.)
14:04
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Naw
things are not that bad yet
Spammer contact SE, show their side, and they take it. Simple as that.
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike you just don't see it.
But...
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack How is a post advertising free phones relevant to this question about space-related software regulations? space.stackexchange.com/q/21050/38535
@PM2Ring you see it from a site user viewpoint. Spammer see it as "I'm doing free service to help millions of people get phones for free", so guess what matters more for SE management? ;)
I mean.... it's part of zero trust, and strongly believing they can, and will, do the worst. Just me for now.
Besides, I didn't cast a del-vote, because I'm on strike. But I did partly break the strike by casting a Not An Answer flag.
@PM2Ring sinner! :D
Well, I'm seeing many cases of "worse" things, so it's fine. Actually, anything is fine, even just having your name in the Letter without actually avoiding any action. Numbers matter.
14:19
I'm still doing normal up & down votes. But I've only done 3 curator actions since the start of the strike. I figure that adding to the flags can't hurt too much. ;)
hmm?
Looks like animated version of @RocketNikita's avatar. :D
Well, not really. But still. :D
14:27
I have only one ring.
@PM2Ring -1, not animated.
I... don't know Sage... :(
14:31
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Why is that relevant?
@PM2Ring just playing with the numbers feels... weird? As I won't know what I'm doing.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Oh, ok. r sets the thickness of the rings. k controls the ellipticity. Making k equal to 1 makes the rings circular.
The colours can be in hex (3 digit or 6 digit), but colour names work too.
14:57
....
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack user got deleted
I literally have no idea what's going on 😅
15:08
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike destroyed. Brave parrot.
(or a mod on strike not caring for possible consequences.... hmm...)
@PM2Ring thanks!
@Journeyman as for your comment on the not deleted ChatGPT answer:
> Please note recently we closed down public access without api key to prevent abuse.
Sadly ChatGPT is out of date.
With the key, you get a token you need to pass to the server in each request, to authenticate it.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack yup want to see the reaction if any
@RandomPerson just wondering, what are you not doing while on strike? ;)
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike none. Those people never reply, and for good reason. lol
16:07
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Q: Can we think of better policies to detect and stop downvotes based on rage?

Daniele CuomoI am here to propose a little improvement to downvote policies. I recently posted a question on stack overflow, asking for help. Rather than getting help I got downvotes with no apparent reason. Let us assume though that who downvoted had good reasons to do so. At the same time, people browsed my...

@JourneymanGeekOnStrike well that's not news
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I only moderate in MSE... no moderation in my other communities (excluding child metas)
@PM2Ring Yes master, I will do as you command
:) I guess it is a bit hypnotic...
user1315829
16:28
Why have I been invited here?
Here's another hypnotic one I did a decade or so ago:
user1315829
ok bye
@RandomPerson-onstrike editing is kind of moderation. Keep in mind low rep users can't do that.
@DanieleCuomo probably related to this comment.
Fine Daniele. Visit chat (maybe Tavern chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/89/tavern-on-the-meta) and talk with users. There are no downvotes over there :) — Random Person - on strike 34 mins ago
user1315829
16:45
Ok, yes as I said on that page. I don't feel safe from you, not the downvotes.
?
How do I make the link to tag, but with styles? like [status-review]
not worked :(
17:08
Like this?
That's [tag:chat]
is [meta-tag:status-review]
Hmm! But
@DanieleCuomo as long as you think it's anger and personal then you're correct in the fear, however you refuse to understand that's just incorrect. So, nothing I can do, sorry.
@PM2Ring here in MSE it's the same, but yeah, on other chats it's a must if you want to link to tags in the meta site.
Why is it did not work?
17:15
@PetLinux can have only letters and hyphen
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack but there is only letters and hyphen!
oh thought it's a "!"
and HERE it work!
ohhh, it's because there is no parent site, so the system doesn't know from which site to take the tags.
Maybe we can ask to take the tags from MSE in this case, it can get dust as a minor feature request, and give some rep to the one suggesting it.
Already requested:
17
Q: Tags in chat messages unsupported in parentless room

tripleeeIn Charcoal HQ I am unable to use [tag:random-string] in a chat message, while this works fine in other rooms. I was told informally that this is because the room doesn't have a parent site, and thus the tags cannot be linked to a search for questions with that tag on the site in question. Howeve...

17:26
@MetaAndrewT. huh!
18:07
@PM2Ring hmm
gif avatars?
@RocketNikita That first one is an SVG, not a GIF.
Thanks Mith. I was only three messages away of doing that...
@PM2Ring svg avatars?
@Mithical umm but there were legit message there, e.g. @RandomPerson ping to me.
18:11
in Trashcan, 36 mins ago, by Random Person - on strike
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack looks like you're look too much into my actions. Are you referring to the edit which I did in ELL? I did it in a haste, and there's no way to retract edit suggestion... so I couldn't do anything
@RocketNikita think it's not possible.
Yeah, SE devs are not that stupid
Maybe it is? worth trying!
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack No, the form accepts only .png
@RocketNikita which form?
@RandomPerson-onstrike oh all good, and I saw edit on MSE. I also not going full way with the strike, e.g. I do post comments and vote (up and down, not close) so wonder about others, that is all. :)
Anyway about talking with angry people, at some point we have to know when to detach and back off, I would have done that earlier, but gave it a chance.
18:15
Technically, it ought to be possible to allow SVG avatars. You can only use simple SVGs here in chat, or on the main sites. Any JavaScript gets ignored.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I give MSE an exception w.r.t to being part of the strike, as most of the official communication regarding strike and company's communications happens on MSE, I want the site to be clean... so I don't mind flagging, voting, commenting on MSE only.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack image upload form, duh
Allegedly, you can have an animated avatar. But it's definitely not encouraged, and it might now be completely blocked.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I guess I'm too naive...
@PM2Ring I once tried frames, embeds, scripts and html elements. all ignored
@PM2Ring APNG shows in preview, but not in actual profile pic
18:18
@Rock well, not only .png but yeah, SVG isn't allowed.
Imgur doesn't permit SVG. Which is rather annoying.
but there are tons of free svg to png online, so no big deal.
@PM2Ring the resize removes animation, saw few users who bypassed it somehow, still not sure how. Might still be possible.
@RandomPerson-onstrike that is fine, but keep in mind that at some point it becomes pointless to keep engaging, that's all.
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Yeah, but the main point of SVG is that it gives you nice clean vector graphics. Also, that SVG I posted is tiny compared to the equivalent PNG. And it's hand-written code, designed to be relatively readable by humans (lots of SVG isn't reader-friendly, and contains a ton of boilerplate).
@PM2Ring well, never delved into it, but probably the reasoning is, as usual, possible abuse.
Allow good thing, and people will use it for bad things.
18:27
Maybe. I have no idea why Imgur refuses to accept SVG. If they're afraid of abuse, they could do what SE do, and ignore JavaScript in SVG files.
OTOH, I suppose they might be afraid of people hiding undesirable content inside innocent-looking SVGs. But that's easy enough to do with PNG, too.
@PM2Ring trailing garabge data joins the chat
18:42
Uploading 10 Mb gif with 50 KiB internet speed
Gotta take a long time ...
cancelled

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