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StephanS

7:00 PM

I'm going to head out for the night, I get uneasy when we use this room to mass flag something. GN

BelovedFool

Is there another room I should have asked this in?

(also, for those wondering, the comment is gone now)

Arthur Havlicek

didnt percieve it as rude

rene

@BelovedFool it is fine to post a link here.

We do have all kind of users around so you might not get a clear verdict all the time but we're happy to help advice/judge/guide when the need arises. And nuke stuff when it is causing trouble.

BelovedFool

@rene Alright, thanks for the clarification. I must say, I was really worried about posting that comment here ^^'

terdon

@BelovedFool That's not good. You shouldn't have to feel worried, dammit :(

I also didn't find that comment particularly problematic, but people worried to ask is very serious.

And remember, that two or three random people don't agree does not mean you're wrong! It only means that two or three random people disagree! :)

BelovedFool

7:09 PM

@terdon Yeah but I have seen some meta questions/answers basically screaming "censorship" because someone posted a link to a comment in chat and the comment was later deleted :/

Arthur Havlicek

it's a known problem meta is understaffed for the required level of moderation these days

Tinkeringbell

@terdon That! While asking for flags/votes has been frowned upon since I started using SE, I now get the impression that is used in bad faith by people to disrupt community moderation efforts :(

user384163

Considering I was put on blast for it, I promise I won't do it again.

terdon

@BelovedFool people will scream about their pet peeve no matter what you do.

Unfortunately.

rene

@BelovedFool if you provide a link and explain what you find troublesome about it there is no reason to be worried if you ask for opinion, as long as your open for all kind of outcomes. You did fine with that link and explanation.

user384163

7:11 PM

Aza also stopped participating in the discussion almost entirely when that post happened

BelovedFool

@terdon If you keep silent, no one will scream at you. But I don't really like this option :/

terdon

@BelovedFool Nor I. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that keeping silent is an option, let alone a good one. If I gave that impression, I didn't make myself clear.

M.A.R.

My pet peeve is people screaming about pet peeves

Shog9

My pet peeve is named "Shadow" and is a 7 year old Springer Spaniel

M.A.R.

Whoa he is?

BelovedFool

7:16 PM

@terdon Oh no, I know. It's just that, lately, I feel like my only options are "keep quiet or get screamed at". Things weren't use to be like that and it sadden me

M.A.R.

@Sha careful of your next step

Or maybe your evil twin . . . your evil dog?

I dunno, Hebrew is weird.

terdon

@BelovedFool you're not wrong, unfortunately. And it's awful, yes.

BelovedFool

Let's all have a kitten to brighten our mood (note: random picture of cute stuff is my thing. Let me know if you would rather have me not post this kind of stuff here, whatever the reason might be):

Tinkeringbell

Are you kitten? I love those ;)

David A

@ArthurHavlicek How does that actually work?

Arthur Havlicek

7:25 PM

? what

BelovedFool

@Tinkeringbell Hehe :p I hope you won't regret these words when I will be flooding TAS with those thanks to @scohe feature :p

Tinkeringbell

@BelovedFool hmm. I do have powers to delete there too, so it shouldn't be a problem XD

David A

@ArthurHavlicek GDPR erasure

user384163

@BelovedFool Wait til the mods are asleep

BelovedFool

@Tinkeringbell Pfff, you are no fun :p

@AGirlHasNoName What??? You mean that mods do sleep??? shock

M.A.R.

7:28 PM

No "sleep" is defined differently for that species

Tinkeringbell

@BelovedFool hi! I'm a mod with two diamonds, you don't get those for being funny!

Arthur Havlicek

@DavidA On stackexchange, I don't know the details. There is a form in the page I described it where you can request that, and that's it. From a legal standpoint, GDPR erasure should ensure the company have absolutely no record with you included or with data that can be enough to identify you

M.A.R.

It involves staring at the screen without any procession of visual cues

So mostly the same thing. But different.

Mods sleep when they're handling obsolete comment flags.

BelovedFool

@Tinkeringbell Confess! It's because you are a parrot, isn't it?!

user384163

@Tinkeringbell I have a feeling Shog would disagree with that

M.A.R.

7:29 PM

Shog is . . . funny?

2

ankii

@BelovedFool Cats are bad for parrots.

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. neural network

M.A.R.

Have I just woken up in an alternate reality? Unless you mean Gandalf and Attenborough are funny

@ankii Allergies

Tinkeringbell

@BelovedFool Yep! I pick up the habits of other people and copy them ;)

M.A.R.

They're awesome but you can't laugh at your preacher

BelovedFool

7:30 PM

@ankii So, should I post more pictures of them or less... thinking intensely

Tinkeringbell

@AGirlHasNoName fun fact: I got a sermon from Shog just weeks before being invited to moderate IPS

M.A.R.

It had a few poems from Chaucer

user384163

@Tinkeringbell that sounds... terrifying

Tinkeringbell

Pleasant is different, yes

user384163

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M.A.R.

7:32 PM

@AGirlHasNoName Unless you picture him as pixelated

user384163

@M.A.R. Is there any other way to picture him?

ankii

@AGirlHasNoName yeah especially with the DP having a head on a saucer.

M.A.R.

Well, as a high res picture of a floating head talking

Shog9

7:51 PM

@AGirlHasNoName nope

(you can't see that, but you can bookmark it for when you've earned 10K on MSE)

(everyone knows the best jokes are the ones you have to put in a lot of work to understand)

user384163

@Shog9 I'm a long way from 10k. At this rate we will need 3-5 more controversies before I get there.

Shog9

So, 6-8 weeks then

user384163

I walked into that one.

Arthur Havlicek

I honnestly lol'd. Nice one Shog

BelovedFool

This sounds a little unkind to the OP. If anyone could take a look?

(at the very least, it doesn't sound very necessary)

Arthur Havlicek

8:00 PM

Flagged here

I agree its a bit nasty

and there is nothing left when you remove the nasty bit

djsmiley2k - CoW

9:03 PM

Whhhhhhhhastup

Arthur Havlicek

I answered the weirdest question in my life in twp

djsmiley2k - CoW

Wowe. People really really don't 'get' gdpr

user384163

@ArthurHavlicek yeah I just VTC

djsmiley2k - CoW

@ArthurHavlicek And it wasn't just 'Leave this job' ?

which seems to be the answer to most things there :D

Arthur Havlicek

@AGirlHasNoName strangely I do feel the question is on-topic

user384163

9:07 PM

Why does everyone think all we ever say is "You should leave"

user384163

@ArthurHavlicek If there were studies, maybe. Otherwise it reads like an opinion poll to me. A gross one too since it is asking for oppinions on peoples character based on a physical characteristic.

user384163

Although both you and Kate challenged that which is good.

djsmiley2k - CoW

haha I don't think you say that

I think tha'ts the answer to most questions :D

user384163

Ohh fair

Arthur Havlicek

it has been a trope for some time, but I think people are more cautious now arguing to leave job and try to present other solutions as well

user384163

9:12 PM

Sometimes people go off. "How come everyone always says you need to quit your job. Doesn't anyone here actually work fora living"

djsmiley2k - CoW

aqfter all, most people don't go to the site to ask 'my workplace is awesome but...'

user384163

A lot of it is

user384163

but my boss is a control freak

Arthur Havlicek

@djsmiley2k-CoW yea, and it's not exactly easy to fix a workplace like you can with broken code

user384163

but I am underpaid

user384163

9:14 PM

but my one coworker is obnoxious

user384163

but I want validation for this awful thing I do that no one likes.

Arthur Havlicek

"too much noise in open space"

user384163

and underpaid

user384163

ohh also... not paying me enough

djsmiley2k - CoW

And most of these things aren't in the control of hte OP.

user384163

9:16 PM

mixed with a bit of overworked

djsmiley2k - CoW

you generally can't convince them to pay you more

you can't convince them to buy new offices / hire more people / listen to you

There's some really GOOD stuff there, don't get me wrong

user384163

Well you can generate influene

user384163

but people that are good at that don't tend to come ask us questions

djsmiley2k - CoW

Yeah I guess so :)

So it's going to be skewed towards terrible workplaces :D

user384163

though some of them do give answers

djsmiley2k - CoW

9:17 PM

How do I stop stressing over the potential takeover of the company? :S

user384163

quit

user384163

that will definitely help your stress

Arthur Havlicek

pills

djsmiley2k - CoW

@AGirlHasNoName :D

user384163

@ArthurHavlicek both

user384163

9:19 PM

nothing like a good addiction. If you are going to be unemployed, might as well become unemployable.

djsmiley2k - CoW

:D

Arthur Havlicek

solid advice in MSE chat

promise

user384163

That's what I'm here for

user384163

I'm not here in an effort to avoid my personal responsibilities

user384163

nope. not at all.

user384163

9:26 PM

Using a sock to repost content deleted as rude and abusive is just gross

Arthur Havlicek

10:11 PM

takes a deep breath as he shtpost in yetanother CoC thread

user384163

I was considering answering that post. I don't have it in me to deal with the backlash though.

Journeyman Geek

@AGirlHasNoName uhm. RA flagged but that needs a custom flag

user384163

@JourneymanGeek I R/A too. Zoe said she custom flagged so I didn't

Journeyman Geek

Oh good

Raedwald

10:31 PM

I've custom flagged.

Journeyman Geek

@AGirlHasNoName is ok. You aren't alone

user384163

@JourneymanGeek You said you were tired before this all started. It's only gotten worse I imagine.

user384163

This whole thing has not done wonders for my mental health. I wish I could not care.

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