Trashcan - 2019-10-18

9:52 AM

@SecretAgentMan Hmmm I always find it hard to erally understand what goes on in her mind. From an outside perspective it almost looks like she has a love-hate relationship with the network, not to dissimilar of an addiction even?

user58

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user310756

10:18 AM

anyway. I have scheduled this account to be deleted. I didn't write a post about it, athought a lot of people have

Cereal

Can't wait for the return post

user310756

I think @Blue is right

user310756

@Cereal listen, if you hate me, that's fine. I don't want to know. Ya know

user310756

you've made your feelings clear under my meta post

Cereal

I don't hate you

I don't know you

ArtOfCode

10:19 AM

mkay

let's not get personal?

user310756

@ArtOfCode who?

ArtOfCode

everyone

it's just a bad idea in general

user310756

I wasn't insulting anyone

BelovedFool

@YvetteColomb Wow, that definitively sounds abusing IMO. Like "I will hunt you down until you die". Sorry you had to read that :/

user310756

I was insulted

ArtOfCode

10:20 AM

I didn't say you were.

Luuklag

@YvetteColomb I started the re-open(war) on that post btw ;)

Cerbrus

@BelovedFool That's... a bit of an exxageration.

user310756

@Luuklag thanks

user310756

@Cerbrus that's how it feels and it's upvoted and sitting there

user310756

it's like we're going to keep going until we run you off the site. That is what it's felt like on here

user310756

10:22 AM

but I realise - back onto my original point - that there's too much water under the bridge between me and mods from other sites and so I'm deleting this account.

BelovedFool

@Cerbrus That's how I read it. If you don't like me at the point you have to make it public that you don't like me. Then something is definitively wrong and the comment should be deleted. But that's just my opinion

user310756

It is better - less agro all around.

user310756

I did enjoy hanging out here for a few days, but it's not going to be a viable option.

Cerbrus

@BelovedFool Something is wrong, yes. But is it wrong at the commenter's end, at the recipients end, or are both parties at fault?

user310756

so no harm no foul

Cerbrus

10:23 AM

Deleting the comment doesn't solve anything.

user310756

because the commenter doesn't agree with any of my posts I shouldn't be on the site or a mod?

ArtOfCode

@YvetteColomb juuuust be aware that deleting the account makes it fairly unlikely that you'll be able to get the diamond back

user310756

@ArtOfCode deleting this account? I never had a diamond on here

user310756

I'm referring to MSE

ArtOfCode

oh, right

user310756

10:24 AM

ah just checking

Cerbrus

@YvetteColomb You haven't exactly been on your best behavior, since you stepped down...

So I get where he's coming from.

user310756

I'm not being a dick btw @ArtOfCode discussing it here. I'm just telling people, before the account vanishes

user310756

without making a post

user310756

I've also closed the sock account on here

user310756

@Cerbrus what exactly has been the worst?

ArtOfCode

10:26 AM

@YvetteColomb yeah, that's fine. I wasn't under the impression that you were.

user310756

please cite where I've broken the CoC? I am being quite serious

user310756

@ArtOfCode also it's not up to me to solve the issues on here.

Cerbrus

@YvetteColomb Constant confrontational contributions, Making every disagreement out to be a personal attack on you. Dismissing everyone that politely disagrees as attack.

Engaging in edit wars

user310756

that's an exaggeration Cerbrus

ArtOfCode

7 mins ago, by ArtOfCode

let's not get personal?

I really must insist on that, folks...

user310756

10:27 AM

I still stand by that post was not good Cerbrus

Cerbrus

Okay. I'll leave it at that.

user310756

@ArtOfCode thanks

BelovedFool

@Cerbrus In my book of "politeness level 1". You don't tell people you don't like them. You just don't. Especialy publicly. The only exception if they explicitely asked you to tell them if you like them or not

user310756

@BelovedFool I agree

Cerbrus

@BelovedFool I guess that's where cultural differences come in

user310756

10:28 AM

and for the record I did just ask Cerbrus what he thought. I'm not offended

user310756

@Cerbrus absolutely

user310756

that conversation really helped actually

user310756

I will be mindful not to call you rude

user310756

just Mister :D

Cerbrus

Okay, then please accept that that's how your interaction on SE comes across to (some) other users.

@YvetteColomb It's not just that.

ArtOfCode

10:29 AM

@YvetteColomb sure, but getting personal is always a good recipe for disaster, especially in already-heated times. Might be better to look for that kind of feedback over another channel - a shared chatroom for the purpose, perhaps, or via email.

Cerbrus

It's too much to mention, and way more than I want to drag into this room.

user310756

@Cerbrus I know, but that was one thing that came out of the convo - I didn't know that was very offensive

BelovedFool

Ok, too much conflict here, I'm out

user58

For the second time today, this has devolved. If you have an issue with somebody else, please settle it in private, not here. This topic of discussion is no longer welcome in the Tavern.

ArtOfCode

Feedback is good, especially if you can accept it without taking offense - but it often doesn't come across that way, in many people. It'll be best to create a dedicated chatroom for this.

Luuklag

10:31 AM

Damn that animation of timeout is so buggy

user194636

I only come here for the timeout animation

ArtOfCode

the numbers are out to get you

Cerbrus

@194636 "Do it again!"

Luuklag

After a little bit the top quarter of the digit disappears

user194636

@ArtOfCode It is strangely hypnotic

user58

10:32 AM

@Cerbrus that's the second time in like a week already, which is too much

Cerbrus

@user58 Timeout or that discussion?

user310756

@ArtOfCode I'm not that keen for it :D . I was stating - I invited it.

user58

timeout

user310756

I must admit - the moderation of this room

Cerbrus

Ah, I agree that it was necessary, and shouldn't be.

user310756

10:33 AM

if you're going to kick people = please warn them first

ArtOfCode

@YvetteColomb Aye, that's fine - just not here when folks are already on edge

user310756

same if you're going to timeout the room

Cerbrus

Nope

user310756

unless someone is being really abusive, I would always warn people first

ArtOfCode

6 mins ago, by ArtOfCode

I really must insist on that, folks...

user310756

10:34 AM

spell it out

Cerbrus

In my experience, warning people that you're gonna kick them will only give them a chance to make more of a mess....

user310756

hm may it comes from being a parent - letting kids know what the consequences will be is vital

user310756

it gives them an informed choice

Luuklag

I certainly hope we are all more mature then kids

user58

I expect people here to not act like children, though. They should be able to infer information from around them.

ArtOfCode

10:35 AM

I'd kinda hope I don't have to treat folks here like kids :P

Cerbrus

I've literally never had a positive response to "Stop it now or I'll kick you"

user310756

well - it beats talking to someone and then being kicked and not understanding why

user58

Anyway, if it needs to be spelled out: This discussion is over.

user310756

wow

user310756

so we cannot even discuss room moderation

user310756

10:36 AM

lol

user310756

sounds like people with SO inc being challenged

Cerbrus

Yvette, please...

user58

If you have a problem with the moderation of the room, pass it along to the mods or staff.

ArtOfCode

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djsmiley2k

heh, not being able to see why a room went into timeout is kinda :/ - I don't know if that was my browsers fault. I alt tabbed away. came back and everything was shutdown.