3:50 AM
College papers... so warm... fluffy... and cuddly... and filled to the brim with UTTER GARBAGE!

lol, welcome to a long standing tradition of hazing

@jcolebrand I know, I know... I never liked to write like that, but it looks like it's become a survival instinct in school.

You're going to find a great many new truths ;)

@jcolebrand - Dumb question, but I never really learned logarithms. We did a Math problem/puzzle in class and I kind of figured out that the pattern that the puzzle showed was a log, (well, I guessed cube root, but the teacher told me it's a log). My neighbor explained logs to me tonight, but I'm not sure what the notation looks like. That aside, how would I get a log of base 3 in C?

in C or in Obj-C?
The OSX APIs may expose something specifically better for math

4:03 AM
@jcolebrand Technically, C is valid Objective-C. It will compile, so either one works.
Have you ever heard of the 9 stones problem?

Technically Obj C is not valid C
I have heard of the 9 stones problem.
You're coming into that place now where you're going to start learning all the stuff we already learned ;) It'll seem neat to you but we're all gonna be like "annnnd?"

Oh, I know, I just wanted to make sure that I am not calling it by some other obscure name.

ok, so back to logs
do you know how to do log math?

@jcolebrand You mean adding the bases for multiplication and subtracting for division?
Like this: Log(32*8) = 8 ?
Well, my notation is likely off, but...

I mean like log x base 3 = log x / log 3

4:08 AM
Log of thirty two times the log of eight?
Am I doing it right?

where log n with no base = log n base 10

Oh, the "default" base is 10, I knew that, I think.

so log(32*8) = log(32)+log(8), yes

nice, ok.
So I wonder if C has a method called log().
goes to check

It should
in the math headers if nowhere else

4:14 AM
Autocomplete suggests a slew of log functions. Yay!
But, I see base 2 and base 10. I wonder how to do base 3, which is what I need here.

So long as you can do log base 10 you're good
I already told you how to do base 3

@jcolebrand I see that, but I'm not sure I understand it.

do you want to understand it or just accept it?
hint: accept it
log x base 3 = log x / log 3
alternately:
log3(x) => log x base 3 (since I don't have subscript here)
log3(x) = ( (log(x)) / (log(3)) )

Ah, that makes sense, since there's no log3() method.

4:47 AM
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I setup Ubuntu 11.04 desktop 32 bit on a VirtualBox VM with a shared folder to the host. The shared folder is /media/sf_Dev/ I want to change Apache2 to point the DocumentRoot to that folder, so I edited /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to replace the existing two paths in that file to /m...

if anybody just happens to immediately know the answer

5:24 AM
@jcolebrand Is there a <Directory> entry for that directory with an `Options FollowSymLinks` in it?
Oh wait, that directory is not symlinked.

No mention of Spolsky's new launch?

@Sathya Eh?

Eeeentersting. I will have to check it out.

5:52 AM
It's pretty cool.
Took me a bit to wrap my head around it.
We've been using it internally for awhile.

I figure anything that may help me organize something is worth a look.

6:22 AM
user going around beautifying posts by adding the kbd
anyone there - should we be approving these edits? stackoverflow.com/users/321366/psy?tab=activity

@JoseK don't see why not - I would

@Sathya: felt these as trivial and not adding value just my opinion

6:38 AM
@JoseK approval takes 2 votes.. you can always cast your reject vote.

yup, so Sathya - you in India?

yes, @JoseK
I see you're from India too, @JoseK - Kerala, perhaps?

thats a good guess

7:01 AM
There-s now 311 flags on SO!

7:35 AM
@GeorgeMarian: Hi dude
@Manjot: @Sathya: Hi dude

hi @SankarGanesh

@Sathya: what's up

@SankarGanesh nothing much, same ol'. How about you?

@Sathya: Right Now i m free , so seeing the android Questions and helping the people here ,:)

@SankarGanesh ah nice

7:51 AM
@Sathya why this room so silent

Highest downvoted no-answer question on StackOverflow:
-13

I have this code, it submits an upload form to a website. I need to convert it to VB.NET so I can integrate it into another project of mine, but I am getting quite stuck import itertools import mimetools import mimetypes from cStringIO import StringIO import urllib import urllib2 class MultiPa...

@SankarGanesh room's generally silent during this TZ

I kind of wish there was like...a week of triage where no new questions were asked and everyone committed to go in and either close existing questions, migrate them, or answer them.

burninated

8:06 AM
@JoseK - I believe the joke he is making is that it will basically be a cold day in hell when javascript isn't the script language used on web pages, and if you're worried about that sort of issue then the odds that the rest of your project is prepared for the change and won't need a complete rewrite are infinitesimal.
Hence, semi-pointless "future-proofing"

@Hostile: okay thats some style of humour

Anyone involved in deleting that is probably not too bright.
If he wanted to be "clearer", he'd have registered "iseveryoneintheknownuniverseusingjavascriptonwebpages.com". But who has the \$12.99/year to spare on a joke like that.
If you're trying to future-proof your web codebase for a world where scripts are delivered as anything but Javascript...everything you know would be wrong after that change, there's no point preparing for it. He was being clever and zen, the deleters are robots.
So it goes.
And yes, I'm mad because I had written a good follow-up comment and by the time I could push it the answer was gone. I'd strongly suggest at least reading people's profile logs before deciding what they have to say (and what people have to respond about) adds no value to the discourse. The up and downvote system takes care of it, and some of us find those little pockets of truth to be more enlightening than the so-called "answer".

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9:25 AM
@YiJiang - couple of requests for your election stats app. Can you add bicycles.se and security.se to it as we are both in nomination period now. Cheers

we need a A51 zone for @YiJiang's election app :p

9:40 AM
@HostileFork An answer on Stack Overflow is not necessarily the right place to be clever and zen. It would have made a great comment

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10:44 AM
Is anyone here now?

/delurk.

Ah, ok, posting a question on programmers, I'd like some advice.

a-ok.

always.

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A short while ago, Microsoft made a pitch to webOS developers. "Join us, and get a free phone and free training." Well, although I'm not a webOS developer, I am an iOS developer. I figured that Microsoft is trying to garner developers and so they wouldn't really care. I responded to the initial...

@Sathya, @tombull89, there you go. I just figured it best to type it up once and not have to explain over and over again.

10:57 AM
@Moshe first come, first serve

@Moshe Intereesting one.

@Sathya Respond to the higher up? What do I tell Mr. Liaison? "Uh, yea, I went over your head, but thanks for emailing me back anyway."?

11:13 AM
esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3731 .. this could conceivably be what triggers the 2012 apocalypse.

@Moshe just tell him another guy contacted you coz you met him in a bar / yadda yadda

Surprisingly, the world coming to an end will not be @RebeccaChernoff's fault, but rather @HedgeMage

@Moshe: try the stronger link i.e. the one which has more chance of succeeding, and explain to the other guy
tell the other guy you were confused about this moral dilemma and put it on the internet too

@TimPost oh dear:-)

@Sathya Google Plus is a bar? :P

11:27 AM
@Moshe It can be :P

@Sathya Heh, so true. Drunk hangouts were the law of the land when redactors ruled supreme.

@Moshe :D

@Sathya Er, that was supposed to say "redactors". Autocorrect.

@Moshe you said the same word again?

12:02 PM
Eh, I have a problem with my computer, grr... after not using Windows 7 for a month or so, somehow it's now become extraordinarily slow
Everything is slow - booting up takes anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes, opening up task manager shows CPU at 100% constantly
Nothing crashes or stops responding, just runs very very very slowly. It's slow enough that the mouse lags some times

@YiJiang Odd. What about RAM usage?

@tombull89 Normal, around 50% at startup, then drops to 35% as I start killing background processes to see if I can get the thing to become less slow
Oh, and dual booting Ubuntu on the same machine runs perfectly fine

It's not still trying to background install updates?

Not as far as I can tell, and anyway what in the world would cause startup time to increase similarly?
Also, it runs (and loads) safe mode similarly slowly.

12:12 PM
Possible? What sort of hard drive problem will cause everything to slow down? Windows isn't offering to do, oh what is the windows equivilent of fsck again?

defrag?

chkdsk

@sathya reddit. Reddit I say!

@YiJiang the dying kind

You, know, growing up, I never had autocorrect. Kids these days...

12:14 PM
@tombull89 I tried, but CCleaner took 30 mins to run in safe mode, and leaving defrag to run overnight didn't even get 50% done

Not overheating? Still...we've got a site for that.

I had an almost same problem - booting took forever on windows (10-15 mins atleast), Ubuntu was a snap. Removed Windows, did a full chkdsk with mark for bad sectors - the bad sectors I guess were on the same spot as where the boot files were. After marking the sectors as bad and doing a repair install everything was ship-shape

Could try a repair install...never liked doing them myself though.

12:46 PM

@davidsleeps Is this the "Stack Overflow has too many low quality new questions" Meta.SO one?

Ah, the infamous brainfck question.

I know it's not a brilliant answer (and am happy to have it deleted) but just wanted to be sure my point was understood by the admin...
it's a ridiculous situation that question...some people take offense to Java!

Unfortunately I can't view it as my workplace (a school) unsurprisingly picks up on the content and balks a bit. However, if you want to clarify a point, add a comment under your answer.

12:59 PM
I can't as it was deleted...happy to leave it at that...
thanks though

1:59 PM
there's some odd edits getting approve votes in the new tab in /review

@awoodland on SO or Meta.SO?

on SO
(the other thing that's puzzling me is clicking improve seems to make a unilateral accept as far as I can see)

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3:44 PM
hola all

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Stackoverflow
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<div title="Combined score of the question and all answers" class="answer-votes extra-large">11571</div> As others recent bug reports, this one is minor bug, too and happens once a year. (11571 votes)

Deleted?

@genesisφ It's still there for me.
If that is what you were talking about.

6:45 PM
@JeremyBanks damn. Not for me

has been burninated

noo
Questions like this will be criticised
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<div title="Combined score of the question and all answers" class="answer-votes extra-large">11571</div> As others recent bug reports, this one is minor bug, too and happens once a year. (11571 votes)

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9:22 PM
@TimStone where be you?

9:33 PM
mars?

> Please avoid extended discussions in comments. Would you like to automatically move this discussion to chat?
Ha!

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11:05 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I'm an astronaut now? Awesome.

sure, why not?

I just assumed that was a prerequisite for being on Mars.
Also, two simultaneous elections? Sounds busy. :P

11:35 PM
Do I go to the free BBQ down the road or make dinner with my giant bucket of fresh vegetables... Decisions decisions.

Free BBQ.