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9:06 PM
@hichris123 - I see what you mean, but I am talking about offering a second area, in addition to where it shows related. One group would only see the usual area of related, whereas the other group would see an additional area which showed roomba'd matches. Granted, they couldn't be opened by users <10k as they are removed, but the titles (and [closed]) could be shown, perhaps even with a red coloring for the text, to offer some signal that these types of questions were removed by the system.
So you want to "I tried to facebook with Java?", here are all of the related deleted questions, so... don't say we didn't tell you so.
 
palindrome rep! that means good luck over the weekend.
 
@TravisJ Oh, now I understand what you mean. I thought you were more talking about attempting to classify whether a question would be bad by whether the related questions were bad.
I'm not sure though that a new user would understand red == bad or closed == bad. They see a textbox, they're going to post their question. Most people don't even read the how to ask page.
 
Ah, well I suppose that is in a sense a related topic of what I was suggesting, as in "what signal can we give from related roomba questions"; but the main idea was just to show the user how many times something like their question was closed and deleted.
As Atwood would say, it is a number of statistics. Even a 5% increase in quality when you are getting 10,000 questions per day is a large amount of progress.
 
you also assume users read the stuff you put in their face.
 
They do rene.
Your comment would assume that exactly 0 readers read.
It is a false premise.
 
9:11 PM
Yes, it is
 
So why say it when you know that it is false?
Don't let perfection be an obstacle to progress.
 
That's right, don't make the perfect the enemy of the good. nods along
 
Because I have high doubts that putting more or different stuff on their screen will be that effective. I would say more is less.
 
@rene - Skepticism noted, although you have no empirical evidence to support it. Your assertion is more conspiracy theory than fact.
@hichris123 - Yeah, new users may not understand the coloring or whatnot, but it is easy enough to also append [deleted] to the title they see in the result box.
Also, this isn't just for new users. As many lament, experienced users also fall into the common trap of asking poor questions.
 
@TravisJ That is probably true but your idea also a theory and not a fact ...
 
9:16 PM
@rene - It is a hypothesis with a way to be factually measured.
 
@TravisJ what would an asker see or hear when their question is probably a common pitfall? Would you show them roomba-ed questions?
At best it could be an indicator for triage
 
@rene - I am not sure how to determine if the question was probably a common pitfall aside from just offering more information and hoping that it is obvious to the user for clear result sets. The idea would be to show them roomba'd question titles similar to the related question dropdown that is currently in place.
The reason that I think roomba questions are good candidates is because they tend to last for a while on the exchange, and that means they are probably not offensive or spam, so they were just questions which were off topic or did not abide by the "how-to-ask" guidelines.
 
Any possibility one might consider adding the reputation leagues to SEDE?
As of now, there is no true way to use SEDE to extract reputation over time for users. One would have to build queries to aggregate votes, some of which may/not count once reputation cap is reached.
Of course, ideally, one would like to be able to extract the reputation per day, if at all possible, but leagues are a good start.
 
Most of the inspiration behind the idea is the large amount of use the current related area gets already from users. Many times I have seen in posts that users will type their questions in to the ask question page to look for duplicates because of the decent level of accuracy. If that could also be used to view questions which were clearly not a good fit for the exchange, perhaps that signal could be used by users to change their minds about asking that type of question or to make edits.
I feel like it wouldn't take much effort to implement as it is almost copy paste from existing behavior, and it shouldn't take much resource to provide as a service because it is a very narrow area of use and a small amount of data.
 
The only issue is maybe that those questions have no quality indicator, except that they are being roomba-ed. I agree they are not spam/rude but beyond that you have no real indication how valuable they could have been.
But maybe some data would help to see what would come up
In theory you could run a SEDE query now to see the questions that get roomna-ed thid weekend
 
9:30 PM
If they got roomba'd doesn't that mean they were already closed? Isn't that a decent level of at least low quality?
I should really write a linq-to-sede implementation at some point.
I am not as savvy with classic sql
Overall though, I think there is opportunity to make changes to the ask page. Apparently it could come up for redesign or improvement this year. At least to get the project started. It would be nice to offer some set of ideas for the team prior to them breaking ground in that regards.
@JeffAtwood, agree. I've long wanted to offer a "guided" ask that's the default for new askers, with more of a wizard-style guide with separate fields for "code" what "what you want to happen," "what is happening", "details about the version, system, etc.," I think we could easily help users NOT crash into most of the fixable mistakes that get made. It's been on the "definitely worth doing... Soon" list too long, but I'll push to get this locked in on a "this year for realz" roadmap. — Jaydles ♦ Apr 18 at 12:38
 
@TravisJ no, the 30 and 365 days roomba doesn't require closure: meta.stackexchange.com/a/92006/158100
 
So perhaps only roomba'd closed questions from the 30 day set
 
@TravisJ I don't recall that deletionreason is in SEDE
 
That way the type of post you mentioned which could have potentially been valuable isn't included
Hm. I wouldn't know either, I am not an avid SEDE queryer (querier?ist?... one of those terms is a real word)
 
@TravisJ in SEDE we only have postswithdeleted (no title/body) but the posthistory table only holds non-deleted posts and I expect the roomba event to be recorded there in production
So you need a CM to run any query in the first place
 
9:41 PM
Hm, well I wouldn't want to pester anyone on a friday for that
Perhaps some common poor titles could be analyzed for roomba % as a start or something. Like for example, what percent of questions matching "what is a null reference error" were roomba'd? Or some set of titles, you are probably more in tune with words in titles or phrases in titles that are red flags.
 
@Werner this was not good enough?
 
@rene I don't understand how that pertains to my question...
I'm interested in reputation per user per day, not how/when posts are deleted.
 
I though that was the reputation league?
@Werner it is time for the happy hour I guess. I meant this one: meta.stackexchange.com/a/268008/158100 sorry ...
 
@rene The reputation league provides reputation per week, quarter, year and overall, but not per day.
@rene Aaah, yes. Nice...
 
9:56 PM
And you want it to be spot on? Not the rough estimate
 
...now on to the next: reputation per user per day.
@rene It depends on how rough it is. The statistic should make for useful analysis...
What analysis?
Hmmm, I don't know... I like to write up some community statistics on a year-by-year basis (I'm way behind on TeX - LaTeX)...
...and having time-series data makes for interesting views.
Perhaps you can see how the year-end top-10 candidates fought for their positions throughout the year.
*fought is used lightly here.
@rene: Something like this:
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Q: Community statistics

WernerWhat characteristic behaviour does our community exhibit? Is it possible to capture this through some statistic or visually through graphs? Certainly! There is a host of information available through the SEDE. This post is meant to collate some of the discussions contained within How can we expl...

 
@Werner how about this?
 
@rene I guess that would be your rough estimate.
 
@Werner that is a bit harder because the reputation queries are a bit hard on the resources in the server.
 
A new SEDE table called UserReputation would be awesome. I don't think there would be any confidentiality breached in disclosing that.
 
10:02 PM
@Werner it doesn't become much better than that, also because not all data is there
UserReputation(id, userid, creationdate, reputation)
 
Yes, something like that.
I'm just probing here before I post a .
 
well, it would make reputation growth analysis and leagues queries much easier and even correct as well as how much rep did a user had when they posted that q or a.
I would support it but for Stack Overflow it would mean a table with many, many rows
 
@rene True. On a per-user basis, the system seems to readily know how much reputation a user had, for all of time... I doubt that it calculates it every time...
 
making it accurate would mean including rep lost to downvotes and exact timestamps... Which isn't gonna happen.
 
@Shog9 I'm only interested in a daily rep total, so no exact timestamps.
 
10:10 PM
@Werner Internally, there's a table called RepHistory which tracks in detail every change to reputation for every user.
 
@Shog9 creationdate would only be a date, same as in the votes table ...
 
@rene Exactly.
 
@Werner You can still try to post it but maybe allow for a higher granularity to give room for the objections for possible downvote tracking
and with that advice I wish you all an Happy hour. I'm off to bed ...
 
You can't wish that.
It's scheduled
 
@rene I'll pose a question.
 
11:02 PM
@Hic if you tried harder, we would've posted on exactly the same second.
A 2-second difference isn't forgivable.
 
Well, I did have to find the dupe...
 
Happy hour time :)
 
Yay
Now be happy.
I demands it
 
user315433
> After this eulogy was posted, @cardinal requested the opportunity to return to the trenches and has re-acquired the moderator diamond. Welcome back, Cardinal, as our first resurrected (zombie?) moderator! meta.stats.stackexchange.com/q/3151
 
user315433
Awkward. cardinal is now "appointed 6/23/2016".
 
11:14 PM
eh, I could've assigned him as the winner of the election he won, but... That'd have sent him an email and been confusing.
too bad moderator records are so weird back in the early days, else we could display a full timeline for these things.
 
user315433
The "coming back after being eulogized" thing is also awkward.
 
user315433
I mean, s/he should have known about pending demotion, right?
 
folks often forget to check their emails
for months
In related news, my dropbox account got deleted for disuse recently
Apparently I got about 20 emails informing me of this
 
in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 11 mins ago, by N3buchadnezzar
I guess EU now has 1 GB of free space.
 
@Quill I don't think that's very original. :P
I guess EU has now 1 GB of free space.
 
11:19 PM
first time I heard the joke.... ;-;
 
also 1 NA of free space I guess.
 
The 2nd Monitor needs to demand attribution for all jokes. Otherwise, we'll have joke plagiarists. Can't have that, can we.
 
@Quill /me flags as plagiarism
 
@rene Done.
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Q: Add reputation history to SEDE

WernerA similar question was posed quite a while back, without much specificity. The only answer identifies the taxing nature of a SEDE query on the server in order to get a rough estimate of the user reputation over time. This is rough because it doesn't include any reputation corrections (due to dail...

 
@hichris123 we need a joke rejection reason for plagarism
I demand chat queues
 
11:28 PM
Hey! I'm awake for happy hour!
 
@Quill With first jokes, late puns, flag votes, unflag votes, very poor joke, and suggested jokes.
 
@bjb568isnotapebble it's only 9:30
 
user315433
The keyword of my question is "display" not "calculate". I'm not looking to increase the precision of Scilab's calculations, just to display a larger number of digits, no matter how correct they are. Thank you for your answer though. — Paul Warnick 4 hours ago
 
user315433
I was concerned that my remark about appending 111111111111111111111 to decimal output was mean-spirited.
 
user315433
Turned out this was exactly what the OP wanted: moar digits.
 
11:33 PM
no more soup? I wonder whether we'll still have a meatball
 
user315433
There's something about 0-9 range that makes it more trustworthy than a-z.
 
> Of course, if you don't mind the digits being wrong, you can have as many as you want:
 
@bjb568isnotapebble oh you're on JamesENL's timezone
turns out node has a tantrum when you try to use custom file extensions :(
Facebook has started sending me browser notifications for missed Facebook activity
 
user315433
11:53 PM
> You have 1 new notification
 
user315433
When I see this, I suppose it's a self-referential thing.
 
@Bookend *notificationz
 
@Quill .js isn't exciting enough for you?
 
@bjb568isnotapebble it was actually working on json file extensions, but whatever
and no, I use .es6
 
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