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mootinator

2:09 AM

S-S-S-SILENCE BREAKER!!!

Moshe

Meet the team working with me on a new iPhone game.

@mootinator --^

mootinator

2:25 AM

@Moshe Coo-el.

Moshe

Thanks.

mootinator

My Windows Phone is illegal now. Yaaaaay.

Apparently the firmware I installed failed SAR testing for North America.

Moshe

3:34 AM

Heh.

Well, @Zypher and @jcole, if you guys want to beta test, you have priority, since you tested Nippon.

Lix

11:30 AM

ugg.. I hate it when the OP only gives a jsFiddle link for a question... and to boot the accepted answer was no more than a jsFiddle link too :/

jsfiddle only answers should be all burnt...

jadarnel27

12:33 PM

@Lix /agree

Can you mount a network switch upside down?

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A: Can you mount a network switch upside down?

˙sɯǝlqoɹd ʎuɐ pɐɥ ɹǝʌǝu ǝʌ,I puɐ uʍop ǝpısdn pǝʇunoɯ ǝɹɐ sǝɥɔʇıʍs ʞɹoʍʇǝu ʎɯ ɟo ll∀

Lix

hahaha -talk about putting 100% effort into an answer :P

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Q: Which broadband plan should i get for my gaming cafe?

I am from Country-India, State-Maharashtra, City-Jalgaon, now there are too many of jumbling list of broadband, so i need to get one which is best and suits my gaming cafe. I prefer BSNL broadband and want you all to give me a suggestion. ** There are 15 PC's in my cafe and my customers are comp...

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That one was quite original I think :P

Lix

12:56 PM

that feeling when you make a comment on meta and immediately get down voted on a totally unrelated SO post... Grudges? Anyone?

jadarnel27

@Lix Oh, that's classy right there.

Lix

I'd rather they down vote a meta post though :P Easier to bounce back from that ;)

jadarnel27

True.

David

1:16 PM

Anybody make it to a meetup this past weekend?

Lix

You are trying to make me feel guilty arn't you? :(((

Its working...

David

I'm curious how some of the other ones went. I'd originally tried to make ours a fairly large event, but it kind of fell through. Ended up being a social hour at a pub, which is just as good I suppose.

I did get Telerik to throw some sponsorship our way, though. They sent branded napkins and bottle openers, and a license to raffle off. I didn't learn until that day that the license retails for $2000.

Only three people in attendance were even interested in it, so instead of a raffle we did rock-paper-scissors.

jadarnel27

o_O

David

In retrospect, I could have just kept it for myself and sold it, though...

jadarnel27

It sounds like a fun time, overall =) I did not make it to a meetup. I saw there was one in Charlotte, but there were only something like 4 people signed up to go.

David

1:21 PM

@jadarnel27 There were 26 signed up for ours, maybe a dozen were there.

Some of the pictures taken are up:

flickr.com/photos/eggplant/sets/72157629922482703

And the Flickr tag for the worldwide meetups:

flickr.com/photos/tags/someetup

jadarnel27

@David If the Charlotte meetup was like that, I imagine 0 people actually showed up.

Moshe

1:51 PM

Boker Tov.

Lix

@mos - Boker tov

jadarnel27

@Moshe Good morning to you as well

Moshe

Heh.

Daniel Fischer

That's for you, Moshe, more like erev tov for Lix.

Moshe

True.

Did you guys see this (link) yet?

Lix

1:55 PM

erev??? really... you guys sending me to bed already??? I'm still in the office :P

Moshe

@Lix Did you see my team yet?

Lix

didn't see yet - i'll take a look once I leave the office :)

Moshe

@Lix לך לישון!

Lix

hahahaha :P

Thats one of the problems... I am falling asleep :P

Moshe

@jadarnel27 - Unfortunately for your taste for my narratives, my C++ notes will probably be edited this week to contain more facts and less historical narratives.

jadarnel27

2:04 PM

@Moshe Oh noes =)

Lix

So... apparently I'm a `variable-name-natzi` :P
http://stackoverflow.com/a/10382474/558021
I'll take that as a compliment thank you!

David

@Lix What's really bad is when people defend their position on writing code that's difficult to read.

"I know what it means" or "It's fine if you understand it" or other such nonsense. My personal favorite is "It's easier for the compiler and performs better."

Lix

"easier for the compiler" :P LOL

David

I love that comic.

Lix

Got it hanging on the wall next to me :P

Popular Demand

2:11 PM

@David "It was hard to write, so it should be hard to read."

Lix

childish :P

David

I wish I had a copy of Clean Code that was somewhat oversized and heavy leather bound like an ancient tome. Then it would be more effective when I beat people over the head with it.

Lix

Put the PDF on a tablet - works best when the glass shatters :P

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@Lix Is it nice to be rich?

Lix

I assume it would be... Its nice to have rich friends though ^_^

David

2:15 PM

Depending on how it was printed, there may exist metal lithographic plates of it somewhere. Those would work quite well.

Lix

@pop - is it nice to be meta-rich?

@dav - by the 3rd page I think they'll get the point :P

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Not really, although it's nice to know how the 10k tools work.

David

@Lix They may claim to get it, but the beatings would continue until the code improves.

Lix

(* beat the syntax out of them *)

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the 10K tools are closer now than they have ever been...

Moshe

@Lix - Can you help me? I'm trying to geofence Israel, so I can auto detect if a user is in Israel.

Anyone here know if there are geofence generation websites? Or something of the sort?

Lix

2:17 PM

sure - you want my IP?

to visit a URL?

Moshe

@Lix No, I'm wondering if you know anything about Israel's borders.

Dumb question, what's the IL government's website?

jadarnel27

@Lix That is hilarious. I've never seen that one before.

Lix

gov.il/firstgov/english

Moshe

@Lix תודה

Lix

I don't know much about them actually...

NP

Moshe

2:20 PM

ok.

Lix

@jad - one of the good ones....

@mos - I don't think you'll find a better explanation than this -

Borders of Israel

Israel's borders are the borders of the State of Israel. The borders have changed from time to time with developments in Israel's military and diplomatic situation. It borders Lebanon in the north, Syria in the northeast, Jordan and the West Bank in the east, the Gaza Strip and Egypt on the southwest The border with Egypt was demarcated in 1906 between Britain and the Ottoman Empire. The borders with Lebanon, Syria and Jordan are based on those drawn up by the United Kingdom and France in anticipation of the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in the First World War and the carve up of the Otto...

jadarnel27

@PopularDemand I finally defeated my English-major cousin in Words With Friends. TOPAZ on a double word, with the Z on a triple letter that counted twice (due to forming another word). 106 points I think it was =)

Moshe

@Lix Thanks.

@jadarnel27 Nice. I once played SHADCHAN for a hundred points. It's hebrew for "matchmaker".

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Very nice!

jadarnel27

@Moshe Ah, that's pretty sweet as well.

Moshe

2:26 PM

Yup.

jadarnel27

@PopularDemand Thanks.

Moshe

@jadarnel27 Wanna play WwF?

jadarnel27

By the way, I found out that that cousin double majored in English and Italian, with a minor in Film Studies. A trifecta of useless degrees =)

@Moshe Sure, I'm "jadarnel27" on there as well.

Moshe

A wild Tim Stone appeared.

Lix

le* hehe...lol

Rob Hruska

2:45 PM

Could someone revert these suggested edits? They shouldn't have been approved - they're copy/pasted from Wikipedia:

stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/249262

stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/248932

I was going to go in and just wipe them, but it won't let me.

Also, a call to reject the rest of the suggested copy/paste edits by the same user:

stackoverflow.com/users/1341006/…

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I don't think there are rollbacks on tag wikis; you'd have to suggest a new edit that adds attribution or just consists of a blank post or whatever.

Rob Hruska

Yeah, I tried the blank post and it wouldn't let me save the edit.

I didn't really want to take the time to put together actual, relevant wiki text.

And I'm not really in favor copy/pasted Wikipedia content, even if there is attribution - it's usually just not relevant.

Popular Demand

Ah, that's what you mean. Gotcha.

@RobHruska Preaching to the choir.

Rob Hruska

@PopularDemand - Indeed.

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tl;dr: I agree with people who think tag wikis should be site-specific, like the scala wiki.

Rob Hruska

2:52 PM

A delicious wiki.

Also, to single out a really good editor, this guy has been making some fantastic edit suggestions:

WATTO Studios, Newcastle, Australia

1.6k 5 13

java android swing arrays homework string sockets

It's rare to see someone making nice, quality edit suggestions, just wanted to hand out some props.

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I'll start close-voting his posts immedi... wait, we're calling out good users now?

Rob Hruska

Hehe. Yeah, I mean, how often do we get to do that?

jadarnel27

@RobHruska Your gravatar is so yellow. I just tabbed back over to chat and went cross-eyed for a second.

So, Google is hitting Stack Overflow for ~11.5 GB's / day in HTTP requests for crawling / indexing purposes. Golly that's a lot.

David

3:08 PM

@jadarnel27 Think of it like Google giving Stack Overflow an 11.5 GB hug every day.

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jadarnel27

@David Hahahahaha

Nick Craver

the fun part is that's a relatively small portion of the 279,000,544,210 bytes served that day (that doesn't include the CDN)

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@David Kind of the way boa constrictors hug large rats?

jadarnel27

Jesus. That's a lot of bytes.

Tim Stone

@NickCraver Y U NO OPT-O-MIZE SEO!? coughs

@PopularDemand Exactly.

jadarnel27

3:19 PM

I was thinking those questions were kind of obnoxious. Especially the whole "It's really that simple" angle.

@NickCraver Is that just Stack Overflow, or Stack Exchange total?

I don't know why it just occurred to me that people in xkcd comics don't have faces.

Nick Craver

@jadarnel27 that's for the network...of that SO was 175,373,937,150

I keep forgetting to cast the Bytes summation as a bigint, it overflows quite quickly with aggregating the logs :-/

Tim Stone

...huh. I didn't know that shaking a window on Windows 7 caused everything else to minimize.

Nick Craver

yes, that's the first thing I disable (all aero "controls") when installing :)

jadarnel27

@NickCraver Thanks =)

Tim Stone

I'll have to keep that in mind...it's made me rage a number of times now.

Nick Craver

3:25 PM

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Q: How do I disable Aero Shake in Windows 7?

I'm always accidentally minimizing most of my windows. This is really annoying. How do I disable Aero Shake?

windows-7 windows annoyances aero

THERE'S A QUESTION FOR THAT!

Tim Stone

First I need to figure out if I can get my Chrome sessions and Thunderbird profile back on my home computer though, argh. Stupid computer issues. |:

Hooray! \o/

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@TimStone Maybe drink less coffee. Your hands will be less jittery, and you'll rage less when you do screw up.

(There's an engineering solution to every problem, but as much as it pains me to say so, it's not always the best solution.)

Tim Stone

But there are so many side-projects to work on! I need the caffeine.

Speaking of side-projects, should make sure my Data Explorer hg repository is intact when I get home...

Some of my work svn repositories got botched as a result of the issues I was having.

jadarnel27

That bytes (har har).

Tim Stone

:P

At the moment I'm blaming the Intel Rapid Storage driver/RAID firmware for not allowing me to verify my RAID outside of the OS (unless of course it does, and I just missed it, in which case I blame myself...but minor details).

Moshe

3:31 PM

What does it mean when a Python bytes? Is there a cure?

jadarnel27

@TimStone That's where you went wrong. Never even consider the possibility of blaming yourself. Always blame others.

Nick Craver

@TimStone - there's typically a very fast boot screen for that, accessed via Ctrl+I

Tim Stone

Yeah, it just...doesn't have any options to resolve the verify state |:

Nick Craver

did you enable RAID behavior on that controller in BIOS?

Tim Stone

Yep.

Nick Craver

3:33 PM

you won't see the option if they're in IDE mode

looks like it's ultimatebootcd time then =P

Tim Stone

Well, I've gone ahead and reimaged the drives now, because I stupidly let chkdsk go and make a complete mess of things.

But some of the files were corrupted pre-image, so looks like I may have had minor data loss.

I conveniently now have a backup strategy, after months and months of being lazy. >_>

@jadarnel27 It's OK, I've spun the wheel now. Seems it was Marc's fault all along.

jadarnel27

Problem solved =)

Tim Stone

Hmm, I wonder when the Skeptics Town Hall Chat will be. Argh, and I still need to figure out where I left off with the elections site.

I need...a to-do list.

jadarnel27

I don't want to get your hopes up, but I think there might be software that helps with that (the to-do lists).

Tim Stone

:P

Moshe

3:44 PM

@Lix: news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57424133-37/…

@TimStone Will there really be a Town Hall?

Tim Stone

Are you skeptical?

There are six candidates, so seems like a good turn out so far.

Moshe

@TimStone Is skepticism even a thing?

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That's notable. The guy running Apple's R&D in Israel has the same first and last name.

jadarnel27

Is 4 cups of coffee way too much coffee to drink in the morning? Bunch of lightweights here at this office. LIGHTWEIGHTS!

Tim Stone

4:00 PM

I had a soda before 11, so that sounds reasonable.

jadarnel27

4:12 PM

+1 for the point about screen estate being limited. And also for ensuring that this question will turn up anytime someone searches for "nipple". — razlebe Aug 17 '11 at 0:46

Lix

@mos - come now... you think I'm going to go work for apple? :P hehehe...

jadarnel27

He was correct. It's the only result, in fact: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/search?q=nipple

Lix

@jad - not the first link you want to see when you enter a room... but ok... :P

jadarnel27

@Lix Speak for yourself =D

Egregiously off-topic question, anyone?

David

@jadarnel27 Scary that it's getting upvotes and upvoted answers, though. Even if it's an obvious question, giving any legal advice should be avoided.

Lix

4:23 PM

Oh I love the binding close vote :P FEEL THE POWER!

jadarnel27

@David Yeah, I thought that was odd, especially the answers. 8 upvotes and counting on the one.

That first comment was great though.

David

@jadarnel27 I'm fighting the urge to drop a reply about buggy whips to the first comment, but I think that one's been done to death.

Tim Stone

    for (Integer offset : set.offsets.keySet()) {
        long store = set.offsets.get(offset);

        if (this.offsets.containsKey(offset)) {
            store |= this.offsets.get(offset);
        }

        this.offsets.put(offset, store);
    }

Lix

@tim - meta is not for technical questions ;) OT

Tim Stone

Anyone have any suggestions how you'd ever get a NPE on the last line? 'Cause I can't see it.

jadarnel27

4:28 PM

@David I'm not familiar, actually.

Tim Stone

@Lix I've already voted to close myself, no worries. :P

Lix

haha

jadarnel27

We can vote to close users now? This is gonna be the best day ever.

Tim Stone

Depends on whether or not you're cool enough to have that feature.

jadarnel27

Have you met me? I could not possibly be any cooler.

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4:33 PM

@TimStone Perhaps offset is null, and put can't handle a null first arg?

David

@jadarnel27 I don't have a link handy, but there was a legal case back when automobiles were invented which was pushed by the horse and buggy lobbyists. Basically every sale of an automobile was required to include a buggy whip, to prevent the buggy whip industry from being put out of business.

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(Disclaimer: I don't even know what language that is.)

David

@jadarnel27 So the comment would be something about how if a replacement for a hammer/nail was invented, you still might have to pay for a hammer.

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand (It's Java) Yeah, that would happen. But it'd happen in the previous get(offset) and containsKey(offset) as well, then.

jadarnel27

@David lollerskates. That's fantastic.

Tim Stone

4:36 PM

store can't be null, since it's a primitive, and this.offsets can't be null since it's accessed previously in the if statement.

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@TimStone Okay, I reached the same conclusion assuming it was Java. I'm not familiar with pipe-equals, though.

jadarnel27

I was curious about that myself.

Popular Demand

The logic in put could be different than the logic in get and containsKey, although that seems unlikely.

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand It's a bitwise inclusive OR assignment (store = store | this.offsets.get(offset))

@PopularDemand It's a TreeMap, so according to the JavaDocs this shouldn't be the case...but I have no idea what the environment is like where this is occurring, so hmm.

Lunch now though, back in a few.

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You have made me feel terrible for not recognizing |=, so I'll keep working.

Lix

4:43 PM

@twi - Really? A bounty on the formatting sandbox? Do you really have that much meta rep to throw around? ;) hehe

Anonymous

@Lix I was replicating a bug. =P

Anonymous

The bounty message "bump" was silently dropped when I tried to use it.

Lix

Oh - a custom message....

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@David [citation needed]

Lix

Well... @twi - the next question has to be - does the OP get awarded the bounty if the answer is already a CW?

If you need to test that out.... nudge nudge wink wink...

Anonymous

4:49 PM

I've flagged them both asking for a refund. Maybe if that's not granted. :P

jadarnel27

Why would that be a bug? Do you not think it's intentional @TwilightSparkle?

Lix

^_^

jadarnel27

Or perhaps I'm misunderestimating the purpose of the post.

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@TimStone TreeMap.put in Java 6 throws "NullPointerException - if the specified key is null and this map uses natural ordering, or its comparator does not permit null keys"; do you know if the comparator permits null keys?

Anonymous

@jadarnel27 I wasn't sure, hence bug support, but I haven't seen that behaviour described anywhere.

jadarnel27

4:52 PM

@TwilightSparkle Me neither. Ah, I didn't notice support as well.

Lix

Possibly a silent character limit that when triggered ignores the message that was too short...

jadarnel27

That closing was a bit hasty, I think.

Lix

yep - i think so too...

well.. first ever re-open vote... sweet :P

Anonymous

Well, I did neglect to include a question in my question.

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@TimStone I take it back; the containsKey call would have thrown the NPE if this were the case.

Lix

5:02 PM

@twi - true, but it didn't seem like that was the reason for closing in the first place...

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5:19 PM

@TimStone When you say "last line," do you mean this.offsets.put(offset, store); or the closing brace?

mootinator

oy

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@TimStone Also, longer shot, but is set.offsets also a TreeMap, or is this.offsets the only one?

Moshe

5:43 PM

@jadarnel - check this out: docs.google.com/document/…

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Both TreeMap, set and this are of the same type.

Popular Demand

TreeMap<Integer, Long>?

Tim Stone

Yep

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Could you be trying to autounbox null with long store = set.offsets.get(offset)?

Tim Stone

Hmm...

I don't believe so. Presumably if that were the case the error would come during that assignment.

Popular Demand

5:58 PM

I'm still not clear on where/when the error is appearing.

Tim Stone

Ah

Specifically on this.offsets.put(offset, store)

Popular Demand

Ah. I was looking at that for autoboxing issues too, but going from primitive to object seems... less fraught with difficulty.

Tim Stone

Or, at least that's what this stack trace I received would imply.

(I have no reason to believe that their line 124 is not my line 124, but I can't guarantee that)

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You could test that by adding an intentional error, like Long foo = null; long bar = foo;.

(That's what me stalling for time looks like.)

Tim Stone

Yeah, unfortunately it's not terrible convenient for me to push a debug copy to the people experiencing the issue, and those people are unlikely to be willing/able to give me the data so I can try and reproduce it myself. Good times. :P

Popular Demand

6:06 PM

I figured you'd say something like that.

Tim Stone

I could be wrong though, I may have a relevant NDA for this.

Would be nice if I could just...see the problem though. Since at the moment it feels rather impossible.

Popular Demand

I really didn't want to admit defeat on this one, but I guess I have no choice.

Tim Stone

Hmm

So the stack trace actually would suggest that this.offsets is null?

Popular Demand

The if statement references this.offsets, though.

If that's line 124, then perhaps.

Tim Stone

Since otherwise if it were a NPE in the TreeMap the stack trace tells you that's the case.

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6:16 PM

I actually just reached the point where I was going to ask you what version of Java they were using. Since autoboxing and generics were introduced at the same time, that can't actually be the issue, but it does suggest that I'm out of good ideas.

Tim Stone

Ah ha

The line numbers are off.

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How'd you determine that?

Tim Stone

Wait, no they aren't. What...

I think Java is trolling me

I wanted to make sure that things lined up, so I ran a test case by inserting this.offsets.put(null, 1L) right after the long store = ... line.

Doing that causes a NPE on the if() line.

Which doesn't make any sense, because putting a null key into the map should have generated its own exception.

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@TimStone Only if the "map uses natural ordering, or its comparator does not permit null keys."

jadarnel27

I see you're trying to debug a Java application. You should totally drop that and try jQuery.

</tiredMeme>

Rob Hruska

6:30 PM

Y U NO ACCEPT REJECTION?

stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/250631

stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/251318

Also, that suggested wiki content is copied content. I'm out of reject votes for the day :/

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Well, now it's at one each.

Rob Hruska

Policing suggested edits is like herding cats.

I'm just gonna quit. :)

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Actually, it's a bug they refused to fix apparently.

"Oh noes it might break people's codez!"

So long as there's nothing else in the map, put(null, value) will succeed, even though null isn't a valid key for the natural ordering, because there's nothing to compare it against that would throw the exception.

It's a long standing "Will not fix"

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Ah. Then add a second debug line before it that puts a valid value in there?

Tim Stone

Well, unfortunately this doesn't get me any closer to the cause, since the containsKey() does fail if key is null. :/

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6:38 PM

@TimStone Very nice find!

Tim Stone

I had no idea. I've never intentionally tried to do that though, so I suppose that has something to do with it.

Tim Stone

6:49 PM

gives up

Clearly the person must just be crazy, and this isn't happening.

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bug 4325
last modified 2:50 PM, 30 Apr 2012 by tstone
closed - customer having LSD flashback

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Lix

Oh I've had loads of those ^_^

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7:16 PM

A list of suggested edits to be quick-approved because they support The great Stack Overflow tag/question cleanup of 2012: stackoverflow.com/users/404469/gary-comtois?tab=activity

Lix

stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/251477

rejected? :P

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That's not the first one that guy rejected. I'm not sure why.

Community rejected one, too.

Lix

Well a few of them have already gone through... I'm finishing up the list...

jadarnel27

Oh, tag wiki suggestions. I was confused about why I couldn't see the approve / reject buttons.

Lix

I had no idea such tags existed! :P Crazy...

Well its silly if we both work on them... @jad - start from the end... :P

oh...well... too late... all gone...

jadarnel27

7:26 PM

@Lix I couldn't have helped anyway =)

Lix

@jad - don't be so hard on your self... sure you could have :)

jadarnel27

approve tag wiki edits 67%

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@Lix No, he doesn't have enough rep to judge those.

Lix

:S

jadarnel27

Although I appreciate the vote of confidence in my ability to help =)

Lix

7:28 PM

I felt like a monkey pushing buttons on those... Totally forgot my new 5K status.. -_-

approve...approve...approve...approve...approve...

To have my name up there in lights next to Lord Torgamus...

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@Lix Hey, I only just broke 5k, myself.

Tim Stone

Slackers.

Lix

what the....how did I never see that before?

you my friend... have been neglecting your SO account :P

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@TimStone Hey now, I spend plenty of time on SO. I just fall into the incredibly common situation where, for all questions, I either do not know the answer or cannot write a good answer quickly enough to beat other answerers.

Tim Stone

7:45 PM

I mostly just sit around slowly collecting necro-reps lately.

Lix

I've recently started getting those... Its nice...

Its like someone else reminding you that they owe you money... and then giving it to you :P

Tim Stone

Programming...ON A BOAT

(except not, since it's really networking)

jadarnel27

That's as real as it gets.

Daniel Fischer

Out of votes - you may only vote 50 times a day.

That was fast today.

Serial approval of tag wiki edits

Lix

Are there REALLY that many people with "superyachts" that you can work exclusively on them?

@dan - Just happened to me too :P

Daniel Fischer

7:52 PM

@Lix How long did it take you? I lasted perhaps 20 minutes.

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer That's what she said.

Daniel Fischer

Well, she is known to be bad in estimating times.

jadarnel27

I feel the urge to start recursively "That's what she said"-ing, but I think I'll stop.

Lix

@dan - no idea :P I think about the same :

jadarnel27

"That's what she said" "No, that's what she said" "That's what she said"

Tim Stone

7:56 PM

0

Q: Why is Data Explorer not accurate?

I'm just now exploring Data Explorer (for StackOverflow) and I wrote a simple query to see how many questions I asked. I get 8 rows as result, but on my StackOverflow account there are 10 questions. Why is the information on Data Explorer not consistent with the actual data on StackOverflow ? P...

bug data-explorer

Is there a canonical FAQ-ish question for this yet? |:

Popular Demand

What do you care? According to the pinned message, we're still in blame-balpha-for-everything mode.

Tim Stone

Oh, right!

blames balpha

Daniel Fischer

Why has that already four reopen votes?

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Q: Why is it so hard for me to understand documentation?

I usually feel that after reading documentation for certain function or something similar, I don't understand it unless I see an example which only then makes documentation make sense. Why is that? What should I do about it? Because I am sure for good programmers documentations should be enough, ...

java php python c documentation

Tim Stone

>_>

Someone remind me to update the Data Explorer FAQ too.

animuson

People are dumb * except those who aren't

@DanielFischer: I'd assume people are trying to re-open it so they can re-close it and attempt migration.

Daniel Fischer

8:03 PM

That may be. But is it really a fit for Programmers?

animuson

I don't know, I don't use that site.

Daniel Fischer

"Can anyone write an algorithm in PHP? I want to know what an algorithm looks like (in PHP code)."

Wow.

jadarnel27

Ha. Just to troll you guys. You're welcome.

0:-)

Daniel Fischer

The "Why is it so hard ..." question was reopened. Needs two more votes to re-close. Any takers?

jadarnel27

Ooh, I helped.

David

8:16 PM

That didn't take long.

animuson

I'm sure there's like 50 people watching the question.

jadarnel27

I didn't know I could vote twice like that.

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand <3

One reopen, one close.

jadarnel27

Ah, nicely done @PopularDemand. That was much needed.

Popular Demand

@jadarnel27 Why would you vote to reopen?!

animuson

8:21 PM

To clear the reopen votes out and let it be closed again.

jadarnel27

11 mins ago, by jadarnel27

Ha. Just to troll you guys. You're welcome.

Tim Stone

(By the way, I think that waffles technically tries to update it monthly)

jadarnel27

I mean...um, what @animuson said.

That's much more constructive.

Tim Stone

(But two months is probably safer...)

Popular Demand

Yeah, I was confused about that... but it seems like lately it's been de facto two months.

Tim Stone

8:23 PM

Fair 'nough.

Why does it look like it's going to rain? |:

mootinator

Hmm, about every 8 weeks.

One can only conclude that Jeff Atwood is trying to steal waffles' identity.

animuson

Lol, getting rid of the moved tag. xP

awoodland

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Q: FoxPro 9 tutorials or books

I'm interested in urgent development of a Visual FoxPro 9 application. I'm a little confused with the UI of VFP and can't get used to it. So, could you please recommend me a tutorial or a book to figure out how to make a simple application in VFP9?

foxpro vfp visual-foxpro

Didn't know fox pro even existed still :)

jadarnel27

Why did they start that post with <br /><br />?

mootinator

I like when I can answer "Can you do X by Wednesday" with "I did it while you were explaining it to me."

Tim Stone

8:30 PM

Heh, isn't that nice? :D

awoodland

Does community inserting a duplicate link also delete any comment with the word "duplicate" in it? (stackoverflow.com/questions/10388433/…)

(I wrote something approximately "not a duplicate, but related:" with a comment before the auto inserted dupe link)

jadarnel27

Hm. I believe community only adds that link if it detects that the link is not there yet. Perhaps it just goes and deletes the first comment with that link (or any comments with the link) once the post has been closed.

animuson

@jadarnel27: You believe? Come on, you should know man. You should know.

awoodland

they were two separate comments with two separate linked question

one was the auto generated one, one was my manual comment when I found something interesting/related before I found the question I was looking for

animuson

8:46 PM

@jadarnel27: Believe

jadarnel27

@animuson Haha, I had "I know" and then I second guessed myself.

awoodland

it's possible Robert did something during closing to it (although that seemed odd unless I missed a rude reply)