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Tim Stone

12:14 AM

Yay, Yearling and 6K. \o/

Tim Stone

1:21 AM

'Ello there @Jin

Stack Exchange, Y U SO SLOW?

Rebecca Chernoff

Tim Stone

Yeah, I think my issue is a bit farther upstream than the site :p

THERE WE GO.

Oh good, and my comment change did go through after all.

Tim Stone

1:47 AM

Hmm, the hotel for DevDays is $250 a night. Good thing Jin is just going to let us all crash at his house. ;)

ManjotSingh

3:47 AM

Morning

ManjotSingh

3:58 AM

Hi Qtax

How are you?

Longest lunar eclipse of century today!!!

Sathya

5:02 AM

Morning folks.

purchased a new VPS.. need to set it up later.

Tim Stone

5:29 AM

G'morning. Actually, wow, I didn't realize what time it was. Should perhaps pay more attention to that.

ManjotSingh

Hi Tim Stone how are you?

Sathya

@OctavianDamiean do you use any Austian domain registrars?

ManjotSingh

How would I increase my rep on meta.SO?

Octavian Damiean

@Sathya yes

Sathya

@OctavianDamiean which one? What's the pricing like?

@ManjotSingh same as any Stack Exchange site.

Octavian Damiean

5:38 AM

webhost.at about 14€/Year

Sathya

ok, any other recommendations?

Octavian Damiean

honestly I'm not up to date with domains anymore

Sathya

fair enough, thanks!

ManjotSingh

but how to increase rep in Stack Exchange ?

Octavian Damiean

doesn't understand

ManjotSingh

5:41 AM

I asked How to increase reputation in meta.SO?

3 mins ago, by Sathya

@ManjotSingh same as any Stack Exchange site.

1 min ago, by ManjotSingh

but how to increase rep in Stack Exchange ?

Reno

ask good questions and/or give good answers, obviously

Sathya

149

Q: How does "Reputation" work?

In the Stack Overflow trilogy websites, users may gain a certain level of Reputation. What does Reputation do? How can a user gain or lose Reputation? Return to FAQ Index See also: Are there any voting limits? Maximum amount of votes and reputation a user can gain or use in a day. ...

ManjotSingh

but I don't have appropriate/best answers and not having as such good questions to ask.

Sathya

then wait for one

ManjotSingh

thank you Sathya :)

Is it worth to answer the question which is already answered and accepted?

because in SO in minute questions are uploading but here in meta.SO rate of asking question is less

Sathya

5:56 AM

unless you have a really good answer or if the behaviour of the accepted answer has changed, no

ManjotSingh

ok,or if answer not yet accepted then?means there are many up-voted answers but not yet accepted then can I answer the question?

Sathya

depends. I don't see why you shouldn't. Just be prepared for downvotes. Meta is a different beast than SO.

Octavian Damiean

if you think that you can add value to the question yes, otherwise don't

ManjotSingh

but then how would I increase my rep in meta.SO.Like Sathya saying "Just be prepared for downvotes".So how would one user increase there rep.

Octavian Damiean

by answering questions or asking good questions

if you can't come up with anything good then just don't do it otherwise it might result in down-votes

Reno

6:06 AM

What are you going to do with rep on meta? Your real intention should be to help people on Meta Stack Overflow . Genuinely.

ManjotSingh

that I got it but there would be some midway.I want to help people on Meta Stack Overflow but for that I should have knowledge of concern question.

Octavian Damiean

of course, for the start my advice is that you should read questions and answers to those questions on meta, at some point you start to understand how SO and meta.SO is supposed to work and you can start to help others

ManjotSingh

thank you Octavian :)

Sathya

there's so much documentation in meta with faq questions.. good reference.

Octavian Damiean

oh yea forgot about that, tons of it and it is all high quality :)

Marc Gravell

6:13 AM

random favor : can someone try posting a message and then deleting it?

Octavian Damiean

done

Marc Gravell

hmmm... it is something about me, then

thanks

Marc Gravell

6:25 AM

fixed; that was odd!

ManjotSingh

what happened?

Marc Gravell

dunno; LINQ-to-SQL getting funny about something

not sure why Octavian could delete when I couldn't, though - we use the same code there

ManjotSingh

Are you developer on SO?

Sathya

that should be obvious from his profile.

ManjotSingh

what does it mean "Stack Overflow Valued Associate #00006"?

who are "Stack Overflow Valued Associate #00005,4,3,2,1"?

Octavian Damiean

6:40 AM

@MarcGravell that is because I have ninja powaz as well (in a very limited way though)

ManjotSingh

what is the issue when they are chatting in there way and all are happy in Iphone room?

Octavian Damiean

the same as it was in the Android room basically

ManjotSingh

but they are happy to chat in there way and no one is complaining.

Marc Gravell

@Manjot - employees; 1 = Jeff, 2 = Jarrod, 3 = Geoff, 4 = Kevin

ManjotSingh

there might be horrible in our view but they helping each other and solving there issues.

@MarcGravell ok

Marc Gravell

6:46 AM

of course, since it is a hyperlink you could have just clicked it ;p

ah, apols - it isn't a hyperlink in chat

ManjotSingh

ya I saw your and Ben only

Marc Gravell

Stack Overflow Blog: Welcome Stack Overflow Valued Associates #00006 and #00007

Posted by Jeff Atwood on June 9th, 2010

I’m pleased to announce that Stack Overflow Inc has added two more valued associates to our team:

Marc is a long time elected community moderator, C# MVP, and the #2 user on Stack Overflow, as sorted by reputation. Just under some guy I’ve never heard of.

Ben is the perpetrator of the gloriously wonderful Unicornify (see April 1 2010), HREF overflow, the not a real question game — as well as dozens of prescient meta suggestions and bugfixes.

You’ve probably noticed by now that neither Ben nor Marc live in the United States. The last time I checked, only 36% of Stack …

ManjotSingh

ya I saw this link only and wondering for others

Marc Gravell

Stack Overflow Blog: Welcome Stack Overflow Valued Associate #00002

Posted by Jeff Atwood on January 5th, 2009

I am pleased to announce that Stack Overflow just added another team member in an officially paid capacity: Jarrod Dixon.

Jarrod and I met on the job in 2002, and became fast friends. Here was the rare programmer who loved to code every bit as much as I did. It was our calling, and we recognized that in each other almost immediately.

I wasn’t sure exactly why we got along so well, until we went to one of those corporate teambuilding events that Paul Graham loves so much. During the event, the moderator had everyone go to a corner of the room, depending on whether you were.. …

etc

ManjotSingh

great

Yi Jiang

6:49 AM

Isn't the valued associates thing a play on Microsoft's MVP thingadongdong?

ManjotSingh

but Jarrod Dixon has not as much rep.How they associate?

Octavian Damiean

rep. doesn't have to do a thing with it

ManjotSingh

So,How they associates the value?

Octavian Damiean

oO

Sathya

eh

ManjotSingh

6:52 AM

doesn't understand.

Reno

neither do I

Sathya

it's the order in which they joined Stack Exchange Inc.

Octavian Damiean

they are employees

ManjotSingh

Can anyone join the Stack Exchange Inc.?

"Marc is a long time elected community moderator, C# MVP, and the #2 user on Stack Overflow, as sorted by reputation. Just under some guy I’ve never heard of."

Sathya

dude, it's a company.

ManjotSingh

6:55 AM

ya I got it.

Marc Gravell

I get to do this for money; well, write code at any rate.

Tim Stone

7:12 AM

scratches head Hmm..

ManjotSingh

why?

Yi Jiang

7:33 AM

Why have I got the FBI on my computer?

2

Tim Stone

Hahah

@MarcGravell You should mark this issue as [status-blackmagic].

Tim Stone

7:58 AM

I wonder if this is a predictive resource grab gone horribly wrong?

As soon as the iframe gets added to the page, even though the src doesn't change, Chrome is like "Yeah, lemme request that page for you, even though it's a POST and you didn't ask for it at all."

Maybe because the response says it's cacheable...

Pekka's other trolling account

8:12 AM

@TimStone weird

Reminds me a bit of this:

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Q: Form being randomly submitted as GET instead of POST

This is kind of crazy. Here's a form on our OpenID provider: <form method="post" action="/affiliate/form/login/submit?affId=7" autocomplete="off"> <table class="position-table"> <tr> <td class="input-td"> <input class="framed-text-field" ...

html asp.net-mvc-3 browser

@YiJiang that's not the FBI, that's the Secret Service

You must have threatened a President or something.

Tim Stone

@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Heh @ the second answer. :P

That's pretty odd too, though I could see a misbehaving proxy or something being to blame there.

Jin

evening

Tim Stone

'Ello

Octavian Damiean

hello

Pekka's other trolling account

Bonjour!

Yi Jiang

8:22 AM

So what does this 'secret service' do anyway? I don't think I need a secret storage place or whatever, what the heck does it do...?

ManjotSingh

Hello

Pekka's other trolling account

@YiJiang "Keyring" sounds like a password manager

live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring

ManjotSingh

I am not getting Javaloader.Do anyone has idea of it?

Pekka's other trolling account

> GNOME Keyring is a collection of components in GNOME that store secrets, passwords, keys, certificates and make them available to applications.
GNOME Keyring is integrated with the user's login, so that their secret storage can be unlocked when the user logins into their session.
GNOME Keyring is based around a standard called PKCS#11, which is a standard way for applications to manage certificates and keys on smart cards or secure storage.

Octavian Damiean

@YiJiang it stores passwords secretly

that sounds like a good question for Ask Ubuntu though

Pekka's other trolling account

8:30 AM

@Sathya re .AT domains, do you need to register a lot?

Yi Jiang

@OctavianDamiean Meh, I answered my own question by looking up the Encryption and Passwords manager. Apparently Firefox uses it to store my passwords, but I don't see any other applications use it

Tim Stone

@OctavianDamiean Conveniently it was already asked on their forum

Octavian Damiean

I see

Pekka's other trolling account

@Sathya ah no, scratch that, even my wholesaler (50 domains minimum) takes €13.39 for them. So 14 euros seems indeed to be an acceptable price level

Jin

i should make a SO playing cards deck

who should be the jokers?

Tim Stone

8:34 AM

You should. I want a 5 of Close Votes in my hand.

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Benjol

Hi all, is it just me or is stackapps.com choking on cdn.sstatic.com?

Octavian Damiean

I think it is every site

Benjol

Hi all, is it just me or is stackapps.com choking on cdn.sstatic.com?

Tim Stone

Just you, and that guy that got angry about the CDN on Meta.

Jin

fine on my end..

Octavian Damiean

8:38 AM

and me

Benjol

Sorry, must be my connection (whence the retries)...

tombull89

oh? Some Meta rant?

Yi Jiang

The styles for Super User failed to load for me yesterday, but it was fine after a ctrl + f5

Pekka's other trolling account

Does anybody know a handy tool to convert time zones?

Octavian Damiean

joda time

Pekka's other trolling account

8:39 AM

Like where I can type in, "11pm PST = ____ GMT"

No I mean, manually

Octavian Damiean

oh

Benjol

google?

Pekka's other trolling account

@balpha @Marc any ideas? (Seeing as they're working across time zones)

@Benjol it can only do the current time

Yi Jiang

@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Wolfram|Alpha?

Pekka's other trolling account

As far as I know

Tim Stone

8:40 AM

@tombull89 Nah, not to that extent.

tombull89

Wolfram Aplha?

wolframalpha.com

Marc Gravell

@Pekkasothertrollingaccount lots. What was the subject?

Pekka's other trolling account

@MarcGravell :) time zone conversstion

@YiJiang excellent, that works!

tombull89

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=11pm+PST+to+GMT

Pekka's other trolling account

@tombull89 thanks, that does it

Benjol

8:41 AM

Can wolfram also decrypt this humour for me?

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/95177/…

Tim Stone

It's a Terminator quote.

Pekka's other trolling account

@Benjol I know. He's the founding father of a Q&A site, but his comments leave you scratching your head on a frequent basis.

@TimStone ah, that makes sense

tombull89

And the "double rainbow", well. knowyourmeme.com/memes/double-rainbow

Yi Jiang

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Q: Plz get rid of plz!

4,599 search results for posts containing 'plz' I'm not big on adding heuristics for every little thing, but this is getting out of hand. This is not a feature request, it's just a discussion on what, if anything, should be done. Add plz to the question/answer quality algorithm? Silently conv...

discussion low-quality-posts plz-give-me-the-codes

Benjol

@TimStone thanks. I was about to reply to Pekka that a lot of it is obscure (for me) cultural references

Yi Jiang

8:43 AM

Since this was posted, 2 more posts containing plz has been posted. At this rate, well...

Benjol

@YiJiang haz been posted, surely? :)

Sathya

@Pekkasothertrollingaccount no, just checking :)

tombull89

argh, plzpocalypse.

Sathya

@Pekkasothertrollingaccount well I pay ~ $40/yr right now.. hence looking for alternatives

tombull89

I wish we did "text speak" filtering in chat as well....come to think if it that would reduce the content of a large number of posts in some rooms.

Tim Stone

8:45 AM

@Benjol Yeah, I imagine it makes it quite hard to follow sometimes

Pekka's other trolling account

@Sathya I can recommend these guys: hetzner.de/en/hosting/domain/registrationrobot

Their .de prices are unbeatable

Benjol

@tombull89 Instant bans for people using i instead of I :)

4

that's my pet peeve

Pekka's other trolling account

The rest is okay, too

tombull89

@Benjol Balpha, get on it :P

Sathya

@Pekka dang, those prices are awesome.

Pekka's other trolling account

8:47 AM

@Sathya and the user interface works and is actually usable

tombull89

@Benjol Watch the SO rooms population drop to less than 5

Pekka's other trolling account

They charge extra for DNS entries, though (60 cents per). But you don't have to use their servers

Octavian Damiean

I'm all for the i ban

Benjol

@tombull89 echoing Jeff's pessimism, I fear that might be a good thing :(

Yi Jiang

@tombull89 The mobile development rooms would be dead

Octavian Damiean

8:48 AM

@Benjol Jeff is not a pessimist, he is a realist

tombull89

status-declined-but-we-wish-we-could-do-it

Benjol

@OctavianDamiean, they say a pessimist is an optimist with experience :)

Sathya

@Pekka I see. I currently use Marcaria

Octavian Damiean

heh

Sathya

don't want to give up my URL hack :)

Pekka's other trolling account

8:49 AM

@Sathya looks expensive! But then, they seem to provide more services than just registration....

Benjol

@OctavianDamiean and coming from me, 'pessimist' isn't really an insult...

anyways, great fun in here, but I'm supposed to be working :)

Pekka's other trolling account

Still, their prices are really high.

Benjol

i see you laterz....

Pekka's other trolling account

@Benjol yeah, me too :)

Later!

Sathya

@Pekka yeah.

Yi Jiang

8:58 AM

I think the Great Firewall bans any Wikipedia URLs with the word 'history' in it

Octavian Damiean

lol

the Great Firewall, I lold

Yi Jiang

@OctavianDamiean It's the name colloquially given to it. The Great Firewall of China (as opposed to the Great Wall of China)

Octavian Damiean

yea I figured, thats way I find it funny :)

tombull89

9:36 AM

snicker

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Q: how stackoverflow moderator knows about sockpuppets?

how stack-overflow moderator knows about sock puppets? how they trap the user? Note:- Merge Your account

discussion stackoverflow

Octavian Damiean

had to comment on it

M'vy

sock puppets?

tombull89

@Mvy one user having two (or more) accounts so they can upvote each other.

ManjotSingh

clone account may be.

tombull89

@OctavianDamiean I thought it was the powers invested in you by unicorn magic. And rainbows.

It's a trap! /meme.

Octavian Damiean

9:43 AM

let me do that for you

2

:D

M'vy

lol

ManjotSingh

I have a lunch now only and I am going to vomit after having a look of this pic,what crap pic.

Octavian Damiean

I'm not sure how to react. I'm astound that you don't know or like Star Wars and the It's a trap meme

I know Star Wars.

Star Wars? XD

9:47 AM

The term Internet meme (, rhyming with "cream") is used to describe a concept that spreads via the Internet. The term is a reference to the concept of memes, although the latter concept refers to a much broader category of cultural information. Description An Internet meme is an idea that is propagated through the World Wide Web. The idea may take the form of a hyperlink, video, picture, website, hashtag, or just a word or phrase, such as intentionally misspelling the word "more" as "moar". The meme may spread from person to person via social networks, blogs, direct email, news sources, o...

M'vy

O RLY?

Octavian Damiean

NO WAI!

M'vy

BTW, my colleague always mispronounce it

tombull89

YAR...RLY.

Sathya

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Q: Webapps Stack Exchange swag for top users

As a thank you for being awesome, if you are on page 1 of … http://webapps.stackexchange.com/users?tab=reputation&filter=all … we'll be sending you a little care package shortly: Webapps Stack Exchange t-shirt in your size Webapps Stack Exchange die-cut, vinyl stickers Stack...

discussion swag

M'vy

10:03 AM

Humm... I have some rep on webapps

at least ... 101 :D

tombull89

11:26 AM

That question I linked to earler about detecting sockpuppets? Essh...just looked at his profile and questions, namely this recent one:

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Q: Why can I not have 2 accounts?

I am curious why I can't have 2 accounts. My accounts have been merged into one (i assumed by some admin): http://stackoverflow.com/users/632951/pacerier I've read these threads: Why are people allowed to have multiple user accounts? What's the SO policy about having multiple user account...

support user-accounts multiple-accounts

excuse me while I gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

Octavian Damiean

@tombull89 thats a standard Android question. ;)

tombull89

I've avoided the Android rooms for today, so far.

Hey, Reno.

Reno

hey :)

ManjotSingh

Hi tombull89

Octavian Damiean

the Android room is getting enjoyable, I'm talking about the Android tag ;)

tombull89

11:31 AM

@OctavianDamiean what, actually on-topicness? :o

ManjotSingh

Is it so,Android room is getting enjoyable.I would like to join again Octavian.:)

Will I be welcome in Android room?

:( No answer.

Damodar

12:34 PM

Hi Guys

do anyone faced this exception before

00000060 annotations E AnnotativeMetadataManagerImpl merge Caught exception while merging
com.ibm.wsspi.amm.validate.ValidationException: @ApplicationException may only be applied to classes that subclass java.lang.Exception or java.lang.Error, class [ bac.ctcs.da.service.DAServiceBean ]

Marc Gravell

12:45 PM

subclass java.lang.Exception <<<< there's the problem; not enough C# ;p

(sorry if that isn't helpful, but I hear there's a good Q&A site for that sort of question)

stackoverflow.com

ManjotSingh

Hi

Pekka's other trolling account

@Moshe do you want the German magazines?

I should have a decision this week, I'm clearing everything out and the paper bin is already eyeing them greedily :)

Octavian Damiean

I'm making more rep. on Meta than on SO already :(

tombull89

@OctavianDamiean Don't worry, same has happened to me.

Octavian Damiean

but I have to get my final 27% to reach 10k on SO first

badp's sockpuppet

1:17 PM

►

Jeff really needs to clean his desktop!

...also is that Internet Explorer in the taskbar? Internet Explorer... 6?

Marc Gravell

My desktop is very clean. Simple: "fences" ;p You get to pretend it is clean when anyone looks just by double-clicking.

But actually, I'm a filthy cretin with all manner of junk on my desktop.

I gave a geek-talk at DDDSW the other day; when squeezed down to projector resolution, the OS gave up trying to fit it all on-screen.

Pekka's other trolling account

@MarcGravell Fences is great!

M'vy

+1

Fosco

1:37 PM

Fences Pro... uber app, been using that for a while.

Octavian Damiean

I'm so happy that I don't need to care about that stuff, I have my workspaces and I just switch between them when I need to :)

M'vy

Lol @OctavianDamiean I hesitated starring your last comment on android. But I do not know if it would be good behaviour outside the Tavern :P

tombull89

on the "Why can I not have 2 accounts?" question: do you really need to post more than 50 questions a month? (me) - yep i do 16 hours programming a day, if you count linearly, that's 2 times more questions i'd have. (him)

Octavian Damiean

oO

tombull89

If you do 16 hours of programming a day I think you need more help than being able to ask more than 50 questions a month...

Octavian Damiean

1:51 PM

I bet that if he posts 50 questions a day then at least 80% of them are dupes

tombull89

If you have to ask so many questions I would say you're in the wrong job, be it SF or SO.

Moshe

I use a Fences alternative called Mac OS X.

Octavian Damiean

definitely

Moshe

(To be fair, Fences is awesome for Windows, I have used it too.)

Octavian Damiean

it is not like SE is the only source of information on the internet. A simple Google search will answer most of the questions

Moshe

1:53 PM

@Pekka I emailed you. Short answer is yes, still interested.

Octavian Damiean

If only I could debug people ....

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Fosco

I cannot imagine asking that many questions a day...

M'vy

lol

gdb this

Fosco

I've only asked one question on SO, and I had to answer it myself.

If I ask it, you can be sure it's not a dupe or something easily researched.

tombull89

nuke eeet.

Fosco

2:01 PM

Flagged.. that's all I can do on MSO.

M'vy

Same

all that needs to be done

tombull89

name, address, age, and website? Nice touch.

Octavian Damiean

oh its already waffled

Pekka's other trolling account

@Moshe I answered. I forgot, I'll need a mailing address of course

@tombull89 hunting spam on SO is no fun. Whenever you arrive on the scene, it has already been nuked.

Octavian Damiean

Reading through old high-view-count questions is amazing. Almost like reading a book.

Popular Demand

2:33 PM

@tombull89 Er, could someone destroy the account that posted this "question" as well? It still looks alive to me at the moment, and its profile is the same spam. (Oddly, it lists a physical address; I don't know if it's valid, but it's not gibberish.)

@tombull89 For that matter, please delete that chat message, so it doesn't get saved in the logs and become Googlable forevermore.

tombull89

2:48 PM

@PopularDemand I can't delete the message as it's older than 2 minutes, apologies. And you're right about the physical addres listing.

calling @balpha can you delete my link to that spam post?

balpha

sure

Popular Demand

@tombull89 Yeah, I was really trying to ping someone who could do anything about it; I only "replied" to you to make it crystal-clear which message I was referring to.

tombull89

@balpha Thanks.

@PopularDemand No worries, it's gone now.

Popular Demand

Apparently, I need to learn just a touch of jQuery for work today. I know it's a long shot in here, but does anyone know a good starting point? I haven't used it at all before.

jcolebrand

Is the podcast today?

Tim Stone

3:01 PM

It is.

jcolebrand

@PopularDemand I did a overview to jQuery introduction presentation, but that might be a bit too far removed back up the chain

@TimStone is it at 5PM EST?

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand I bought manning.com/bibeault2, which I didn't think was too bad. You can get it right now for 42% off with promo code j942

@jcolebrand 4, supposedly.

jcolebrand

Not to be too dumb, but I would say start with some jQuery questions on SO, and either ask us or the chat.so/javascript rooms

Popular Demand

@TimStone Thanks, but I was looking for something a bit lighter.

jcolebrand

I don't mind a skype chat if that would help you @PopularDemand

Fosco

3:04 PM

jQuery moves so quick... I wouldn't want to buy a book on 1.4 with 1.6 out.

Popular Demand

@jcolebrand Appreciated, but I'm at work. I have no specific questions, and I don't want to add a "pls link me some tutrials urgnttttt" post to SO. Google should be enough, I just thought someone in here might have a "oh, this is by far the best link, I used it when I was getting started" lead.

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand I'd just take a look at the tutorials then.

jcolebrand

@PopularDemand I'm at work too, I only meant in the chat window on skype

Yeah, I think the jQuery tutorials are best.

Fosco

@PopularDemand this is a quick start tutorial: docs.jquery.com/Tutorials:How_jQuery_Works

Popular Demand

Thanks @Tim @jcolebrand @Fosco. (Sometimes I find that a third-party tutorial is best, but you three can't all be wrong.)

@jcolebrand Skype installed on your work machine? Madness!

jcolebrand

3:06 PM

@PopularDemand I know right! We used it before (and still sometimes do in lieu of) Microsoft Communicator

facebook.com/thinkgeek/posts/10150216747102074 <--pure awesomeness

tombull89

My brother used Skype to his friends instead of Xbox Live Voice chat...how's that for novel.

Fosco

FWIW, Ventrilo or TeamSpeak are better for that kind of stuff...

Hogan

@PopularDemand Just look at the docs website... that'll get you going.

Fosco

So sad... :( notalwaysright.com/at-a-loss-for-words/9300

jcolebrand

@Hogan ya know, that's not exactly supremely helpful as advice. At least we said "check their tutorials" :p ...

Also, I started a room with Pop so we can do a lightning set of answers and quickstart. So join if you wanna help, but we'll keep the inane chatter in here, yeah? ;) :D

Hogan

3:28 PM

Invite me pls :D

Michael Mrozek

@Hogan There's a button at the bottom

Hogan

Didn't seem to work... I think everyone left for lunch :(

Fosco

Patience... there's no activity in there at the moment.

and im off for lunch now. ;)

Sathya

speaking of lunch, dinner time.

Popular Demand

Wow, that room got popular when I looked away. One sec.

Okay, you're in. But as Fosco said, nothing's going on there.

In other news, a pox on whoever's hosting a large number of customers or dignitaries or other visitors today. Having to move my car to a different one-hour parking space every 50 minutes sucks. At least it's lunchtime now and spaces are opening up.

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