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Quill

12:31 AM

OH: "Is that a Psyduck? Oh wait, that's your face."

Tweeted by kevinmontrose on August 1, 2016 at 12:24 AM

JamesENL

12:59 AM

Mah birthday today!

hichris123

Happy birthday @JamesENL!

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JamesENL

1:21 AM

imgur.com/nbTPGv2

No oneboxing :(

hichris123

You need a direct link - like i.imgur.com/nbTPGv2.jpg

JamesENL

There we go

tchrist

@EVERYBODY MAKE YOUR SAVING THROW AGAINST EPILEPSY OR FALL TO THE GROUND AND BITE YOUR TONGUE OFF!

JamesENL

@tchrist Ahhhh that's a good warning

hichris123

Is that too annoying?

JamesENL

1:36 AM

I can delete it if it is

I've got a case of the birthday excites

bwDraco

2:32 AM

@JamesENL I'd actually consider this flaggable. Please think before you post.

Photosensitive epilepsy is no laughing matter.

I've decided not to flag this but if you keep posting content like this, I will call in the mods.

in Root Access on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 16 at 18:53, by DavidPostill

I've warned you all before. If you post something that gets flagged we get visited by a horde of mods. Please think before you post.

hichris123

2:51 AM

Probably best not to flag something like that unless absolutely necessary... we do have room owners (cough) y'know and I asked people if it was too annoying.

JamesENL

If it's a problem feel free to delete

hichris123

Eh, it'll be off of my screen soon enough... just chat some more. :)

JamesENL

@hichris123 That sounds like a tacit licence to spam

hichris123

Well... "chat with useful contributions some more" - better? :)

Quill

@bwDraco I know, right? Those SE mods are pigs

bwDraco

2:59 AM

lol

Quill

3:14 AM

JonEricson (and ᴡᴏʀᴅs) called it a while ago, but now there's a formal issue, which means I probably have to do something now.... ;-; github.com/The-Quill/StackNews/issues/39

JamesENL

puppet.com/sysadminday-contest-2016

Quill

oh hey I just bought one of those graphics cards

user202362

these few weeks are the ones where old problems didn't get solved and new ones kept coming up

tchrist

3:59 AM

@JamesENL I believe in showering folks with a year's worth of forbearance and ice cream and cheer and encouragement on their birthdays, practical pranks notwithstanding.

JamesENL

@tchrist Honestly, it wasn't meant to be a prank or anything, it was just a cool little gif I found that basically summed up my mood

tchrist

The prank was me rolling around on the floor biting my tongue.

JamesENL

@tchrist Really?! Shit I'm so sorry

tchrist

If you cut your hair shorter we couldn't pull on it this much, chacho.

JamesENL

facepalm

tchrist

4:03 AM

The Spanish never pull your leg. Only your hair.

JamesENL

óle

hichris123

cv-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/281887/recursion-in-c

Quill

4:39 AM

I wonder who the user that's posted the most messages in one chat room is

Smokey's at ~60000 in Charcoal

Andy

4:54 AM

@Quill Does stacknews work for you in Firefox? I don't get infinate scrolling at all. It only loads one page worth of stuff then throws a TypeError

TypeError: t is undefined
stacknews.org/render.js
Line 18

Quill

What version of Firefox are you using

It's transpiled down, so it should be browser compatible

Andy

Looks like 47. Seems I'm out of date. Un momento. I'll apply this update and check again.

eh. now 47.0.1

no change.

Quill

Okay thanks, if you want to make an issue on the repo, I can take a look at that later :)

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: the past it was a popular flavoring for soda. Surprisingly by ehelle juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com …

JamesENL

5:15 AM

sd 2k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: gouged, bled, and sometimes even harmed by the pharma-industrial by ehellejuriya on superuser.com …

JamesENL

sd k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Why is my new adult male dog compulsively marking and humping the air? by David Reishi on pets.stackexchange.com …

JamesENL

sd k

gah

my bad

@SmokeDetector sd fpu

SmokeDetector

5:33 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Il doit être apporté avec un verre d'eau pour voir la construction musculaire séduisante by agarwalkajal958 on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: testosteronesboosterweb.com/tst-1700/ by cornergems on workplace.stackexchange.com …

Journeyman Geek

@JamesENL this was brought to my attention. I'd like to say.... I vaguely resemble that post. Also I'm totally leaving it to the locals to police such things.

I have no power here anyhow

(have work for the next two months) awww yissss

SmokeDetector

6:04 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: Who is the richest person of New York r London or other mega cities? by Asmeret Daniel on patents.stackexchange.com …

Portal

@Quill for whatever reason, I don't get infinite scroll on Chrome 51 for Windows either. There doesn't seem any error either. (tested on incognito already, no extension runs)

Quill

That's related to the percentage I set it at

For whatever reason, window scroll is strange on some platforms

Portal

I see... I could make it infinite scroll by decreasing the size of the window

Quill

github.com/The-Quill/StackNews/blob/master/src/web/…

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Q: How to ask question about a phenomenon that has been wrongly 'understood' at a global level?

I have a fundamental disagreement with the explanation of a real world phenomenon. That fundamental disagreement renders the current explanations of that phenomenon completely wrong. The simplest way I could think of to bring everyone's attention to it was by asking a question on PSE (Physics St...

discussion

Strange questions are strange

TIPS

6:49 AM

@Quill Then tell me any of the story.

@Quill Haha physicists.

SmokeDetector

7:16 AM

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JamesENL

sd k

rene

what is this? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/281895/…

JamesENL

Spam?

Maybe?

rene

I see that kind of markup when you post from the App so it seems an app user

Don't understand the title though

JamesENL

Maybe trying to use the app to post spam?

rene

7:25 AM

Could be, but they left comments, right?

Derpy

So ad USA bomber to return my Mexican to enter — user336273 13 mins ago

Such a wonderful comment, full of meaning.

"USA bomber"

yep, that must not be a troll at all.

Quill

7:55 AM

@TIPS you can find it all on the MSE question

I really don't know the entire story any way

rene

del-votes-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/281895/… @Bart @ShadowWizard

Portal

You seem to come from the future, having the version of the app that hasn't been released yet. Can you tell me what has changed since 1.0.85? Tank in advantaged. — Portal 44 secs ago

Let the post be nuked...

Quill

what even the comments

Shadow Wizard

8:18 AM

@rene done, though it was spam.

rene

it was? How?

Shadow Wizard

8:53 AM

@rene key words for improving search rate.

OP also posted them in comments, but there's bug now so can't see them.

Also, OP account nuked too, so SE employee agree with me. ;)

rene

I do not diasgree with you, I'm just curious to know your spam reasoning as that would have probably been a better call.

SmokeDetector

9:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Cannot fight at Gym by I am Enraged on gaming.stackexchange.com …

Derpy

9:59 AM

Premise: read this question here

Now I wonder. How does all of this fit in with the fact that SE users can be as young as 13?

Notice: I am not referencing the specific case by itself. The link is just to provide context. The actual point is "how do we fell about content that while still managed in professional and legal way can be inappropriate for minors?"

SmokeDetector

10:13 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: VitalPeak XT A solid muscle by ChaseDorsey on gaming.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Amateur who's writing own work for HubPages - should I move to Blogger/Blogspot? by Author4hire UAE on writers.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: who can publish the list of the richest celebrities in the world? by Robert Tuttle on patents.stackexchange.com …

rene

@Derpy We are not parenting.se and if I understand the 13 year rule correctly it only exists because the law requires that (or have a complex sign-up procedure). So without the law the sites would be open to anyone. If something is just bad-taste or plain abusive is for the site community to judge. Although I do agree that some post titles better kept on one community and not shared in the HNQ list.

user202362

internet.kids

user202362

subnet for the under 13 year olds

rene

Man, I expect that would attract a lot of non-13 year olds ... might be handy as a honeypot ...

Derpy

@rene The problem is that SE is responsible for the contents it host, and I think it can't claim a "It was the user fault for looking, not ours"

rene

10:28 AM

@Derpy I just checked wikipedia, they host the same stuff ... what is the problem?

Portal

There are quite a lot of "mature" questions on religion sites, and still 13 y.o can access them, so...

Derpy

@rene Quick example. I don't know if it is still the case, but I know that I never joined Anime.SE because it used to allow question about identification of mature material... and as a result the question list was crawling with them. I was wondering if that was a problem or not in regards to the users ages.

Portal

It's even browsable on all ages (i.e. from search engine)

rene

@Derpy it still depends. If a site wants to cater for that kind of stuff and a large enough subset of the visitors feel comfortable with it AND not that many complaints are raised on meta AND it isn't only bad taste AND you at least do your best to understand that minors might have a problem with that content, I see no problem

I can imagine a special tag that you can put on you ignore list

Portal

(Off-topic, but identification-request has been nuked and blacklisted since a while on Anime & Manga)

rene

10:35 AM

I do agree that such doubtful content should not be pushed in your face.

And if that doesn't work then yes, you have to accept the occasional run into bad things, just like what would happen in real life when you take the wrong route through town...

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rene

sd k

Derpy

10:52 AM

@rene oh, rene, I think you must have misunderstood my point. What I meant here is that while the original post was probably a little over the line with the "I will report the question to the anty-terrorism agency" style part, I was still wondering if SE shouldn't actually have some responsibility in limiting exposition of younger users to certain categories of content.

user202362

@rene sounds suspicious, especially when it comes out of a flower ...

rene

@Telkitty sure. Trying to be over protective sometimes has averse effects ...

user202362

so if a honey pot is supposed to attract pedophiles, what is a flower supposed to attract?

Magisch

I now imagine @rene rooted outside a pharmacy soliciting people like "Hey, want a sniff? I smell real goood"

rene

@Derpy I think I fully understand your point and my answer is basically no but I don't want to close my eyes for those who expect the answer to be yes.

@Magisch isn't that the pick-up line used in Amsterdam?

Magisch

11:00 AM

@rene Its because some of the personal information necessary to complete a registration is illegal to hold of sub 13 year olds.

rene

@Telkitty lots of worker bees

@Magisch sure

Magisch

@rene "The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act requires that websites cannot collect personal information from children under the age of 13, including "full name, home address, email address, telephone number or any other information that would allow someone to identify or contact the child.""

Taken from here

rene

I kind of get what that law says and I don't think I try to advocate against that? Or did I?

Magisch

Nah, I was just giving further context to your response to @Derpy

Also

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by Quill

1800 rene for hire

Quill

Why we lost Uber as a user https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/5797D5A1.5030009%40agliodbs.com

Tweeted by newsycombinator on August 1, 2016 at 11:02 AM

rene

11:06 AM

I used minor for anyone who still has their parents be responsible for their actions

@Magisch WUT?

Quill

ring ring

Magisch

@rene You're a network famous flower

bjb568

You're the network's favorite flower :)

rene

@Quill interesting, we use postgresql ...

Derpy

@bjb568 Or Goat Child.

Derpy

11:40 AM

"Renriel Dreemuur"

Shadow Wizard

11:57 AM

@Magisch you back to work? Or still at home on sick leave?

Magisch

@ShadowWizard back at work

better ish

Shadow Wizard

cool

SmokeDetector

12:18 PM

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rene

sd k

SmokeDetector

1:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to add products in this point-of-sale system? by Eli White on ux.stackexchange.com …

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

2:09 PM

0

Q: Please tell me what reputation comes from documentation

Honestly -- I really do not like that I get reputation from documentation -- it pads peoples rep and I really do not know what it represents in the grand scheme of things. But Since we are stuck with it anyway, Can there be some way on the reputation page from me to see what rep I got from Docs...

discussion feature-request documentation reputation questions-and-answers

Hopefully ^ this gets somewhere.

user202362

2:21 PM

Oh well, if this succeeds then people who have obtained reps from documentations will be disappointed ...

TIPS

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA If you get 30 upvotes in the next 15 minutes, yes.

Or maybe from the next 15 minutes since the next 30, 'cause we have to give it time to show on the billboard.

rene

Documentation is also on the SOCVR room meeting tonight, mostly because we have a minimal rep requirement but if that is all obtained from docs I'm not sure if that also means you can be trusted with Q/A moderation.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@TIPS Ha... This is just getting silly. I should not get rep for a topic that looks nothing like the original topic I wrote...

Ahh I keep getting rep...

TIPS

What is wrong with this reversed dude? Is he actually complaining about getting rep?

@Documentation, you've built a mutant.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@TIPS haha.

;-P

Blah.. I had nothing to do with this: stackoverflow.com/documentation/javascript/revisions/… Why am I getting alerts to improve it?!?!?! AHHHH

TIPS

2:40 PM

meta.stackexchange.com/posts/281864/revisions

This guy just doesn't let go.

rene

@TIPS yeah ... let's move on with our lives ...

TIPS

Moving on without lives is impossible @rene.

Moving on with our lives is even harder.

rene

I was wondering if that should have read without

anyway ... move on

TIPS

Anyway . . . moves on

rene

you can combust ...

TIPS

2:48 PM

One can only wish

I tried to burn my silicon. Damn steric hindrance was too tough.

rene

That is pretty awesome

user315433

5:09 PM

The Finance Team takes the lead in the internal competition for fancy titles.

user315433

Meredith Ambinder (former Sales Representative) is now a Sales Enablement Strategist

user315433

Rob Dandorph (new employee) is a Sales and Marketing Operations and Enablement Manager

user315433

Somewhat along these lines, Sean Bave (former Product Manager) has become a Director of Business Information Systems

user315433

I'm sure these systems are somehow enabling...

user315433

-3

Q: Hackeado por hos3a

Hacked by h0s3a, i pwned your box since 2001

music

hichris123

5:18 PM

Hmm... abusive?

user315433

Apple mods are soft on that category, so I wouldn't try.

user315433

Got some declined flags from that direction.

Aaron Hall

5:33 PM

Hi

user315433

6:12 PM

@LuxxMiner Good point, we don't usually have high-rep suspended users when we run these, but I've put his name into the list manually. — animuson ♦ 22 mins ago

user315433

Suspensions are temporary, swag is forever.

Dan Fabulich

6:40 PM

Can I get a gut check on how to handle a bounty in this case? stackoverflow.com/questions/38402443/…

I posted a bounty, and someone posted an answer which was totally untested. (Syntactically incorrect, even with the syntax errors fixed it didn't actually solve the problem)

But the answer was useful to me; it helped me figure out the answer on my own.

I replied in comments saying "hey, update your answer and I'll give you the bounty" but the original author didn't do it

We're still in the grace period so I technically still can give them the bounty. But but but I feel weird about giving the bounty to somebody who didn't actually solve the problem.

WDYT? Should I pay out? Just let the bounty expire? There's no way to award "partial credit" on a bounty, is there?

user315433

There can be a partial award of the answer gets up to 2 of higher. But that seems unlikely.

Andy

You've accepted teh answer. In that case, the full value will be awarded

> If the bounty starter accepted an answer during the bounty period, that answer is awarded the bounty (provided that the answer was posted during the bounty period). Answers accepted before the bounty period are not eligible to be awarded the bounty automatically.

user315433

I would probably edit the other user's answer to bring it up to the standards, then award bounty to it.

Andy

citation

user315433

@Andy the accepted answer is self answer, not eligible

Andy

6:47 PM

Well...nevermind then.

I missed that

user315433

@DanFabulich here is an example of what I did in a similar situation, expanding a brief reference-only answer and then awarding a bounty: math.stackexchange.com/posts/1097797/revisions

user315433

I left "added by OP" note there, which is generally discouraged but seemed appropriate then.

Andy

7:20 PM

Any one use Bosun? If so, I'm curious to here how well the OpenTSDB portion scales. I imagine SE is happy with it, but I have an IT department that just completely canceled a project that depended on it because "it won't scale". I suspect we don't have nearly as much data as SE, unless they aren't storing as much as I think they are.

hichris123

@Andy "I imagine SE is happy with it" - I hope so, they created it. :)

Andy

They didn't create OpenTSDB

(honestly, I just know bosun uses that, I don't know exactly what it does)

hichris123

Oh. If I remember correctly, Nick was complaining about OpenTSDB a while back.

@aran384 Bosun/scollector is feeding OpenTSDB

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 9, 2015 at 2:53 PM in reply to aran384

@aran384 It's the backend for Bosun currently, so already have it full of data - though we're looking at other options to move to as well.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 9, 2015 at 2:57 PM in reply to aran384

user315433

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A: Can we please introduce more reputation limits for examples on Documentation

We're definitely going to fix this. Kevin and others will be discussing the particulars this week, though it may be a bit longer before anything gets rolled out (as the variety of suggested changes here demonstrates, there are a lot of factors that should be taken into consideration). Once change...

hichris123

There will be a post from me, soon, which more clearly lays out what we envisioned with the rep system for docs as it was launched. The goals are really good, balance is tricky. As Shog noted, we're going to have to do a recalc, so we've got to be really careful to not inadvertently make the balance a bigger issue than it is - which means this is going to be at least a few weeks. I'll be posting this week at some point, there's a lot of stones to turn over before we can say we've turned 'em all, and a breadth-first search comes in quite handy there. — Tim Post ♦ 1 hour ago

RepGate2016?

Andy

7:30 PM

I'll fire up the microwave and start tossing in the bags of popcorn

user315433

@hichris123 That was already used by Adam in the first day after launch.

hichris123

RepRecalc2016 then?

user315433

I wish \w+gate terminology would die together with Nixon...

user315433

The great cheese movement of 2016, since new nav is apparently pushed back to 2017...

hichris123

New nav was supposed to be 2015...

Andy

7:34 PM

@hichris123 The beta came out then. That counts

user315433

AWS instance is now telling me at every login that "New release '16.04.1 LTS' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it."... Does this even make sense?

user315433

Upgrading a virtual thing that I can only connect to by SSH?

hichris123

I've done it before and I haven't broken anything...

rene

.... yet ....

hichris123

... thanks for the confidence. ;)

rene

7:47 PM

You can trust me with that. I'm great with other peoples confidence

They can't have enough of it, they'll need it

user315433

I guess if it fails, I can kill the instance and get a new with 16.04...

user315433

Actually the new Ubuntu instances they offer are still 14.04.

user315433

-2

Q: My boyfriend used Phantasmal Force to create an illusion that he was made of lava.

Is he doing this to avoid meeting my parents?

spells

hichris123

lol that's a new one.

rene

You might keep that one in mind for the future ...

hichris123

7:58 PM

... I wonder how effective it is...

rene

If I had knew this beforehand I would have tried it ...

Jan Dvorak

The answer is spam, right? ru.stackoverflow.com/questions/550945/…

(yeah, yeah, I'm sitting in the realtime tab again)

hichris123

I'll let @ᴡᴏʀᴅs translate for me...

user315433

@hichris123 nothing to translate, it's sh.st link

user315433

Which is enough for me to flag as spam

hichris123

8:11 PM

Yeah, fair enough. It goes to a study site after the link shorterner ad thingy - spam for sure.

user315433

Math exercise: find the minimum number of days to earn Marshal.

user315433

Assuming one spends all post flags and all comment flags every day, and all are marked helpful within the same day (increasing flag limits), the answer is: 10 days. Daily flag counts: 24 + 28 + 34 + 40 + 48 + 58 + 70 + 84 + 100 + 100 = 586

Jan Dvorak

cute

user315433

8:29 PM

Well actually it's 24 + 28 + 34 + 40 + 48 + 58 + 70 + 84 + 100 + 120 = 606, I forgot that the cap is 200, not 100 if both post and comment flags are used.

user315433

WordPress election began

rene

9:05 PM

Can someone explain to me in one simple sentence what the essence is of this? The root cause of the issue, that is.

user315433

Someone is angry on the Internet.

Jan Dvorak

disagreement about whether "is "black nodes matter" a politically correct joke" is a politically correct question

Slightly longer version is that someone didn't like the question, and started mocking it over and over again, then got banned for a year, then came to complain about that on mse

rene

Well, the mocking is now on the mse post it seems

Jan Dvorak

9:28 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/38708410/…

Shog9

@hichris123 Because it's fun? Because it gets stupid examples out of the way? Because it can encourage the author to improve or other people to delete?

let's go with "catharsis"

hichris123

10:42 PM

@Shog9 But then I can't make someone feel bad that they wasted my time downvoting. How fun is that?

If I'm going to downvote, I would at least hope the person would find out...

Shog9

@hichris123 hence the "leave a comment" thing. ~~Words hurt more than numbers~~ That way there's a specific path to avoiding deletion too.

hichris123

Comment with a downvote? Ugh... I can't even remember the last time I did that.

(Oh, well I do it on ES a lot)

But with SO/Docs... it's not worth my time.

Also, I still haven't figured out this magical delete function on Docs.

Shog9

Well, you don't have to. You can just downvote and silently push the example toward the bottom, or you can delete it.

@hichris123 pencil icon -> trash can icon

It's like... Hieroglyphics. Or emoji. Or one of those old Macintosh computers.

hichris123

That's... terrible. If I want to delete something, really I want to edit it first and then I say "oh, I want to delete it".

Shog9

Everything in Docs is an edit.

hichris123

10:47 PM

Docs needs a UX redesign.

Shog9

Don't take your Macintosh hate out on poor Docs. At least you don't have to drag the draft into the trash to close your browser.

hichris123

I saw this a few days back, semi-related: fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-design-a-bad-name

But this still stands:

Jul 28 at 6:06, by hichris123

Also, why are there so many buttons off to the side? It's like brain overload right there.

I can't figure out what the buttons do, and I can't find the actions I want.

Quill

the new ios version is so bad

hichris123

UX is hard, let's go shopping.

Shog9

what's the new fad? Chat-bots, right? Someone should write a chat-bot interface to docs.

Quill

10:53 PM

New fad?

Shog9

Y'know. After tile-based, Web 2.0 and Skeuomorphism.

hichris123

@Shog9 Needs interaction with Teams and Jobs too. And hey, you can put the experience on your Dev Story too.

And then televise the whole thing on Twitch.

Shog9

Oh, man... You are gonna be so disappointed tomorrow...

Quill

@Shog9 I think you're forgetting table based layout

Shog9

@Quill with the power of tables, ALL fads are possible.

hichris123

10:57 PM

@Shog9 Tomorrow will be great, thanks for asking!

Shog9

@hichris123 I'm sympathetic to their concerns, but I also used iTunes like 10 years ago and it was terrible even then - so this isn't exactly a new problem.

Quill

they pressed rollback on the last six months of design for desktop

Shog9

And I believe the horrible brushed-metal skinning w/ meaningless buttons thing happened even before OSX was released, so... Guessing Apple's design work has been going down the tubes now for about as long as it wasn't.

hichris123

iTunes on Windows or on Mac? Windows has always been terrible.

Shog9

Or maybe dictators can be fickle humans too.

@hichris123 Windows. So you're suggesting that Mac has now caught up?

hichris123

11:07 PM

Perhaps, I don't really use Macs all that often.

Quill

Apple literally sell themselves on hardware-software integrations, so you can probably imagine iTunes works good on Mac. That said the design still makes me want to cry blood

hichris123

Heads up: there will be a momentary Stack Exchange outage Wednesday night a little after 9pm EST for SQL. I’ll post to Stack Status tonight.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on August 1, 2016 at 10:08 PM

Hmm, wonder what happened here:

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Q: Strange behavior in review status

I got an error of too many incorrect reviews, and as example I got this review: http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/13119671 which was approved by all 3 reviewers (including me). The edit was suggested on a question and it wasn't rejected by any mod (as far as I could tell). Any id...

support review-suspension

Quill

I use iTunes for Windows and it works fine for me, but a few years ago it was very painful

the SOCVR room meeting just ended, btw

hichris123

Reading through to see if anything important happened or if it was like last time's...

Shog9

Funny thing is, I only used iTunes to buy an album... Which was DRM'd, so I couldn't play it in anything else... And eventually ended up re-buying from somewhere else. Or stripping the DRM off of. Or both. I forget. Anyway, I did something rash in frustration and then never used it again.

hichris123

11:16 PM

So... what's the takeaway from that? "Always research your options"?

Quill

ugh, my first gold badge on Stack Overflow is for a meta post..... ;-;

hichris123

Yeah, doesn't look like I missed anything in that meeting...

Shog9

@hichris123 the other options at the time were, if memory serves, DRM'd Microsoft, DRM'd RealPlayer, and gnutella.

I tried Microsoft's thing too

and, uh, gnutella

no prizes for guessing which one had the best UX.

hichris123

Couldn't just Rip, Mix, Burn?

user315433

Napster ftw

user315433

11:27 PM

I mean the original one.

Shog9

@hichris123 sure, but back then that involved CDEx and WinAMP. Not really fair to hold iTunes up to that standard.

(Not really fair to iTunes, I mean. Can you imagine trying to run iTunes on a Pentium 90?)

hichris123

11:39 PM

Pentium 90? I thought we were talking 10 years ago.

Quill

When your Pokemon route is interrupted by a protest #nyc

Tweeted by kevinmontrose on August 1, 2016 at 10:56 PM

user315433

Spent too much time wondering what is wrong with duration = (3600*hours + 60*minutes + seconds)/86400

user315433

where hours, minutes, and seconds were extracted from a string with regex match...

Quill

What the... Apple, @ATT? "The device is locked. Unlock 50$. Write on e-mail: helpappledevice@gmail.com" https://t.co/L0okExomwN

Tweeted by jonathansampson on August 1, 2016 at 11:11 PM

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hichris123

11:53 PM

@JasonC seems to be having fun on Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair.

Why hasn't that site graduated, by the way?

user315433

According to Jon Ericson, not enough 3K users.

hichris123

Stats are way better than some of the sites that have recently graduated.

Quill

Jul 25 at 6:02, by Quill

It seems our friend JasonC has forsaken us for Motor Vehicle and Maintenance and Repair:

hichris123

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs Hmm...

Law: "currently 10 users with 3,000+ rep"

Mechanics: "currently 34 users with 3,000+ rep"

Maybe active 3kers?

the thing is - without one the exploit would be sold to a criminal organization — uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC 29 mins ago

user315433

in The Pitstop on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Apr 13 at 20:06, by Jon Ericson

Ultimately, the site needs leadership from within. You all are doing great work and should be proud of that. The only reason you haven't graduated is there just aren't enough of you to support an election. Voting will help, but it's not the only thing that's needed.

hichris123

11:57 PM

Because a criminal organization definitely wants access to SE accounts...

user315433

in The Pitstop on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Apr 13 at 23:19, by Jon Ericson

@DucatiKiller I just looked at the stats. I think you are very close now. Next time we review the site for graduation, it's pretty likely we'll take a risk on running an election.

Quill

Damn those university spammers trying to buy hacks

hichris123

@JonEricson ^^ poke poke

Yes, that might be a little annoying... but I'd love to have a site with 50k views/day graduate.

user315433

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Q: How can we increase the number of eligible voters?

Over on Meta Stack Exchange, we've announced a process we call design-independent graduation which allows us to confer all of the benefits (and drawbacks) of graduation without waiting for our designers to replace the beta theme first. So far the experiment has worked well. We've been watching th...

discussion election

Quill

Eric Lippert is fast climbing the Code Review rep leaderboard... if the site graduated now, he would get a swag pack

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