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Quill

12:41 AM

my new sleep cycle: sleep whenever you're not getting a ping storm

I think this is the worst scraper I've seen yet: weddinginspirez.net/…

heh

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Q: Search Categorization by Difficulty Per Subject on MSE

This suggestion has a sibling here, which is not precisely what I would like to surface to the community on MSE; Filtering tags/questions by subject *and* level of difficulty The basic idea is to introduce NOT a tag of difficultly, but rather a new search categorization based on a difficulty rat...

user202362

3:15 AM

@Quill I think you should get some decent sleep, but I am pinging you to tell you that :p

hichris123

5:16 AM

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hichris123

5:39 AM

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hichris123

6:26 AM

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Bart

Ah how cute. @hichris123 is building castles out of spam in his sandbox

hichris123

Are they good spamcastles though?

Bart

As good as a spam castle will ever be

hichris123

→ 1 message moved to Sandbox

Well, I guess that's good enough...

I've mostly been trying to curate the page so that when I open the room, a bunch of old spam isn't shown.

Quill

@Bart needs a little mayonnaise on top

Bart

6:40 AM

@hichris123 your efforts are appreciated

user202362

thanks for cleaning this place up

Quill

domo arigato

user202362

lack of sleep is bad for health

Bart

Tell me about it

user202362

ref. above

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6:42 AM

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user202362

this can be an infinite loop:

user202362

while(true)
{
	Telkitty.LackSleepBad4Health();
	Bart.TellMeAboutIt();
}

Quill

user202362

fat kitties!

bjb568

6:58 AM

appears, to the Tavern, a Tuvia misterioso

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7:18 AM

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8:13 AM

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8:57 AM

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bjb568

9:13 AM

@AstroCB I stumbled across you on GitHub. github.com/ripper234/Whatever-Origin/issues/15

WTH. I just noticed the in operator in JavaScript.

I thot it was just used in for loops.

I always just used indexOf or includes before.

oh wait those do different things

Then I always just accessed it.

Come to think of it, the in operator isn't all that useful.

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9:43 AM

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Quill

@bjb568 yeah, the in operator isn't the same as Python's in operator

bjb568

boring

One of my coworkers used it for some reason.

Quill

one of my coworkers added underscore to the project just because "using JS' solutions" was too hard

when underscore's contains is so close to includes, it's even easier ;-;

bjb568

;-;

Quill

that's what happens when you're a full stack dev who prefers one language

obviously his C# is better than mine, but my JS is better than his

Quill

10:31 AM

ChrisF 2016 — Jamal 11 hours ago

haha

Quill

10:47 AM

Are are licenses okay to put in questions?

I thought questions couldn't put licenses on the content

bjb568

ARE stands for Active-Resistance Exercise.

Are our ARE our ARE, our ARE ours, programs?

^ is a valid sentence

Quill

I think I need some coffee <_<

!!/brew

rene

head explodes

Quill

For reference, I was talking about this answer: stackoverflow.com/a/179231

user202362

@Quill you don't need more coffee, you need sleep

user202362

10:54 AM

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@Telkitty brews coffee for @Telkitty

Quill

user202362

I don't mind putting a chocolate gun in my mouth

user202362

11:03 AM

slowly licking it

SmokeDetector

11:15 AM

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Quill

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/281579/…

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11:32 AM

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bjb568

11:52 AM

Oh god somebody is using Siri really loud in Chinese in a quiet hospital waiting room o_0

It's kinda hilarious since Chinese Siri sucks.

It keeps saying it doesn't understand and asking to search the web.

The kid is just trolling it, I think.

Quill

I used Japanese Siri for a while to troll my family.... that was interesting

user202362

How do I use Chinese siri?

user202362

I changed language to chinese, siri still tries to hear english

Quill

You have to change Siri's setting to Chinese

Settings -> Siri (General -> Siri for versions <10) -> Language

user202362

I wanna speak singalish :'(

user202362

11:58 AM

yeah I changed the setting and played with it

user202362

12:11 PM

I finished reading 34 pages pdf documents on electricity connection :p

user202362

speaking of doing boring things

Quill

speaking of doing boring things, I'm writing a shell script to generate server configs

bjb568

12:50 PM

Eww

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1:21 PM

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Quill

apparently my repo is now 14% shell.... just for setup

bjb568

1:32 PM

o_0

user202362

1:49 PM

Why has Ausgrid sent me 2 acceptance forms: one in words, one in pdf? They are of the same content, with different file formats.

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Portal

User-friendliness, just in case you ~~can't~~ don't know how to open either one.

@SmokeDetector k

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user202362

I must admit, preview is surprisingly good for editing pdf

user202362

2:59 PM

except for aligning text in pdf files, preview is terribly difficult to use at this task

user202362

But I think it's because I was doing things wrong ...

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Shadow Wizard

3:20 PM

in Shadow's Den, 1 min ago, by rene

@ShadowWizard I'm always nice. I choose to not show it all the time ...

I always knew it! ^

:P

@rene is a nice flower.

2

tchrist

All the time he chooses not to show it.

bjb568

Hey, flowers can't bloom all the time.

AstroCB

3:39 PM

@bjb568 Sometimes I stumble across myself on GifHub when I run into that problem again.

Bart

4:00 PM

I hate it when you have this really "simple" thing you want to do, but everything you try gives you another roadblock

bjb568

You mipselled complex.

Post-shower thot: pronounciation isn't in the dictionary.

user315433

The Wallflowers - Some Flowers Bloom Dead

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Quill

4:16 PM

somebody made a wallflowers joke yesterday

Last night of vacation == much sad.

Tweeted by onlybluefeet on July 23, 2016 at 1:38 AM

user315433

The length of U.S. vacations == sad

user315433

Little point in being well off if you don't have time to enjoy it until you're old and decrepit.

user315433

But at least bluefeet picked the right week for vacation.

Quill

To anyone who missed opening night of the Docs beta chatroom, you missed out

user202362

== not = you are a terrible programmer if you didn't know that

Quill

4:25 PM

Speaking of, I recently passed Jon Ericson for most messages in that room

Yay for helping out :)

user315433

Missing out on feeding frenzy isn't something I regret.

user202362

it can be equally sad if you have a lot of money and a lot of time to think about 'what am I doing with my life?'

Quill

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs I don't necessarily mean like you missed out on getting rep, but more like how hectic the room was

Miami Horror - Moon Theory

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user202362

For poor people who have to work 10 hours a day to keep a shelter and food on the table, they wouldn't have time to think about all those philosophical questions. They would think that if they were rich, all their trouble would go away. World doesn't work that way unfortunately. A lot similar to fat people thinking that all their problems would go away if they were thin

rene

5:03 PM

Is this just an post so we know or is something asked from us: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/329154/578411

Quill

they want explicit control of what's closed

GIVE US THE HAMMER BECAUSE WE ARE THE AUTHORS

rene

if they have 5 users with cv-privileges I guess they can do whatever they want

They are a private SOCVR

Without the chatter

Must be good

Bart

@rene that sounds ... wrong?

Quill

heh, they're basically announcing a hunt

Bart

We're not closing stuff because it's out of date or refers to past versions.

Quill

5:11 PM

pre-alpha tag it is

rene

@Bart that was my first idea as well, but I honestly don't understand fully what they are up to, even after my comments and the replies

Maybe I ask the wrong things

nicael

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/38544384

rene

@nicael if you already flagged it what is left for us?

Quill

@nicael New ant eater?

Bart

Good, 2 answers in while eating dinner. Time for some Overwatch

Quill

5:31 PM

aw shit, I committed my config file with the not-so-public ip of the db server

time to destroy the server

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5:45 PM

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Quill

0

Q: Why Do Judges Wear Constumes?

We know scientists wear a white lab coat to catch dirty material. Firemen a fire-retardant cape. That makes complete sense. But Judges? For example, in Canada they dress up like Santa Claus while in America they dress up like the Grim Reaper (minus the hood) and in Britain they wear carpet on ...

judge jurisprudence

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6:17 PM

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Bart

@Quill that revision and the comments though ... serious bunch over there

user315433

You kinda bury the lede here: "There are three groups of people who visit Programmers" - this is your audience, this is who you're writing for, this is why changes to guidance and branding matter, if they are to matter at all. These people are not you. They don't have half a decade of history on this site. Understanding what brings them here and what creates the misconceptions they labor under when asking is critical to success. Otherwise, like the boxer, they'll hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest.... — Shog9 ♦ 24 hours ago

user315433

The more I read that discussion, the more sense it makes to reboot the site via Area 51.

user315433

Then it will be - presumably - moderated by the same people using it.

Bart

No, go propose to merge it with Stack Overflow, given that it's really the same topic anyway. :D

Quill

6:20 PM

rebooting the site means you lose all of the activity

you can migrate some questions, but still

user315433

Or merge, indeed. Just make Prog.SE posts a different category of posts, which are located under another tab but still earn reputation.

Quill

heh, given the hate people are giving docs rep, I don't know how they'd take yet another change to their precious rep

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs there was a long ~~argument~~ conversation in Chat about it recently if I'm remembering correctly

Bart

What we really need is rep-categories, with some sort of formula that seems logical, but isn't really, to work out the privileges. Just strange enough to upset those "with the wrong kind of rep". And then we make some popcorn and enjoy.

Quill

what we really need is to make winterbash non-stop

Bart

Noooo, then we won't have people asking the same old "can I keep my hats?" question any more

user315433

6:25 PM

The best thing about winterbash is that it has a checkbox that makes it easy to ignore. Some other features don't

Magisch

Its super warm in southern germany

Its like 30C and 95% humidity

the worst

Bart

It's finally cooling down a bit here.

But I see it will be 28 to 31 all next week :(

Magisch

I hate this temperature

Bart

Same

Magisch

I want to move somewhere where it rains a ton and is cold always

Quill

6:28 PM

it's only 14 degrees here at the moment

Magisch

My optimal temperature is around 15C

Bart

Oooooh

I'm tempted to move to Iceland

rene

Only Fridays?

Magisch

Hey @rene

How's the petals?

Bart

Given that it's always Friday over there

rene

6:29 PM

@Magisch hanging ...

Magisch

@rene When is your type of flower blooming?

rene

Once every 7 years

Bart

So you've only experienced that 8 times now?

Magisch

I wonder if rich people somewhere grow rene to put in their flower arrangement

Like "this rare flower is actually blurry and blossoms once every 7 years"

Bart

All I know is that you have to cut him off at an angle to keep him alive the longest

rene

6:32 PM

@Bart yep

Magisch

Who talks about cutting him off

Bart

I do

Magisch

You move rene in big flowerpots

Magisch

6:45 PM

@rene I'm starting to get a tad irritated with the doc rep situation, too

I got over 400 points for spelling fixes in an article about defining php arrays

rene

@Magisch yes, I got +4 for two edits and no upvotes at all. Much irritated.

Magisch

Its like writing a 2 minute rushed two line answer and getting 70 upvotes on it

Oh wait, that also happened to me once

SO rep can be random and frustrating

rene

Yeah, I'm still trying to get that gold badge but ... I need to write another 400 answers if my scoring is like it is now.

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Magisch

I get one or two upvotes half the time

then I'll spend time researching and composing a good answer, narrowing down a question to answer it then

Aaand sniped by a guy with broken english who gets an instant accept and +8 upvotes

Quill

6:53 PM

you should try getting frustrated and contributing mainly to a beta.. much less painful

Magisch

Sometimes I'm on the winning side of that coin

when I write a largely disinterested answer on some really simple question while something is uploading and get like 150 rep for it

Or some 2 line common sense thing on the work place that blows up to +100 upvotes

Quill

Some people have too much time on their hands.....

rene

7:16 PM

Yes, but I see I have an deleted answer on that question ...

Magisch

@Quill I'm more impressive that someone made a super unverbose programming language just to play code golf

rene

Enterprise is not on Azure then?

Quill

@Magisch It's not all that impressive..... most of the chat regulars have written like 10 each

Magisch

What am I doing here then

Quill

@rene I think they mentioned it on the podcast

Magisch

7:21 PM

I'm a depressed first year apprentice from germany

The least impressive person to ever enter chat

Quill

I wrote a few languages, but it turns out formal grammar is not my skillset

rene

@Quill Oh, I didn't listen to that yet

Quill

@Magisch there's too many ninjas out there

It's really good to see people with amazing work and crazy portfolios.... but then you go back to your own portfolio and..... ;-(

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch so you think we're all impressive here? ;)

Magisch

@ShadowWizard lots of people on So are

If I had any notions that I was above average anything, SO has thoroughly disabused me of them

Shadow Wizard

7:32 PM

@Magisch SO isn't good as mirror

user315433

8:00 PM

The limit of 5 suggested edits kind of hurts me on Philosophy; three of my pending suggestions are 2 days old, and still have just one approve vote. One more suggestion yesterday, one today, and I'm blocked.

user315433

If philosophers don't like to review edits, they should learn to spell better. :/

Shadow Wizard

8:12 PM

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs weird, isn't it a Beta site?

The design is beta, privileges are beta...

user315433

No, they are graduated-without-design.

user315433

Privileges are tied to design.

Shadow Wizard

So maybe it's a premature graduation...

(i.e. not enough activity to justify it)

user315433

You say the site met your threshold; what threshold is that? The linked post mentions 10 questions/day. Philosophy gets 5.8 questions/day, trailing about 13 beta sites in that category, some by the factor of 2. — ᴡᴏʀᴅs Jul 7 at 6:51

Shadow Wizard

> They can be adjusted if it becomes necessary.

Maybe ask Shog to adjust it only on that site?

(e.g. to 10)

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs yeah, I agree. But what's done is done...

user315433

8:15 PM

Eh, maybe it only ever becomes a problem when I farm rep points, expecting mod election in near future.

user315433

Maybe it's better to tie this to privileges upgrade rather than graduation announcement.

Oded

@rene probably taken out as irrelevant (and possibly subject to change).

user315433

After all, the "congratulations, there is no beta label" post doesn't have any other effect on what users can do on the site.

Shadow Wizard

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs yeah but it will probably happen soon, and there still won't be more active users to review suggested edits.

Oded

@Magisch you are making assumptions. One of the CMs went through some statistics last year - ~5% of those who visit posted one time. ~1% posted 5 or more times. The people you see are a fraction of that 1%. To be average, you would need to be somewhere in the middle of the 95% who have never posted.

And given they never posted... you don't have anything to measure against ;)

Point being - you shouldn't compare yourself to the other posters on SO - they are not representative.

@AstroCB imagine what I feel like when I am looking up a problem on SO and it is my answer.

user315433

8:27 PM

in /dev/chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Mar 28 '13 at 21:41, by Gilles

<--- is confronted with bizarre problem
Googles
Finds 2-year old answer on SE that solves the problem. Gee, I didn't know that.
"You can't vote for your own post"

Oded

Yep. That.

AstroCB

8:51 PM

@Oded Yeah, that's happened to me once or twice.

user315433

Apr 3 at 4:05, by 404

Decided on a college yet?

AstroCB

9:08 PM

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs Ah, yes; the elusive question.

That would be NYU.

user315433

Cool!

user315433

Except for dorm room size, I imagine.

AstroCB

Well, they're converted apartments, so not too bad (as far as I can tell).

user315433

Location is about optimal for low-lag connection to Stack Exchange.

AstroCB

I've got three roommates though, so that should be interesting...

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs Of course

user315433

9:12 PM

4 in one unit can be complicated, unless it's a suite-type layout.

AstroCB

I think it's split into two bedrooms with a common area.

user315433

Then it's reasonable.

AstroCB

Yeah, should be fun.

user315433

Computer Science or something related?

AstroCB

Yep – B of S in CS

user315433

9:18 PM

Second major in math goes well with that.

AstroCB

I'll look into that; there's also a combined BS/MS program I'm thinking about.

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9:33 PM

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Quill

10:23 PM

ahahahaha

Somebody mass downvoted me on SO

I guess that means I'm pissing people off...... I'd say that's a job done well

I argued with quite a few people in my sleepy rage last night.... it was probably this one guy who was hellbent on the idea that the creators and maintainers of a library should be the only ones to approve and reject docs