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A: Usability issues for first-time Stack Exchange users - a micro-study

Good job! This is awesome. There's a lot of useful observations here, but here are a few I'd highlight specifically: The default copy in the hero is kinda goofy. It has that, "No charge - EVER. Enter your credit card below!" vibe. This actually got fixed on SO: Normally, weird copy getting up...

user315433

If they are going to update the "weird copy in the hero", the number 4.7 million needs an update too.

user315433

And it'd be a lot less impressive on some other sites.

Quill

> CS TCS 00:12 shrug

I lol'd

user315433

TCS is pretty much "shrug" itself. The least active of graduated sites.

user315433

I wonder how @ArtOfCode managed to get 20 people to participate in this thing. It looks like the kind of study I'd expect to happen around the SEHQ.

hichris123

12:17 AM

> Arts and Crafts is a community of 347 arts and crafters, just like you, helping each other. Join them, it only takes a minute.

user315433

And together we will rule Arts...

hichris123

Maybe xkcd.com/591 is relevant.

Quill

Civil wars ensue between the Artsers and the Crafters, the fight is brutal, paint and glitter adorn the battlefield

@hichris123 still factually inaccurate

how can you be anonymous if you have to signin

user315433

To be fair, it's more difficult to correctly place a question that is not your question.

Quill

1:21 AM

> You can try this change when it's built by becoming a beta tester.

Nice, beta testing the iOS app

Quill

1:40 AM

The good thing about "open by default" philosophy at @StackOverflow: people go and do things like @stack_overkill http://www.stackoverkill.com

Tweeted by konamiman_en on May 25, 2016 at 11:01 AM

hichris123

... how does that have to do with "open by default"?

user315433

Nothing, really.

hichris123

> First of all I downloaded StackOverflow's public dataset (updated every 3-4 months), which is in XML format, and I transformed it into AVRO format (much more Big Data friendly) using a script of my own called SOXTA, which uses LXML and AVRO libraries.

Seems like this could've been done with just the API... but hey still a cool project.

Quill

Queens of the Stone Age - I Sat by the Ocean

►

bacon

On another weird job position on SO... stackoverflow.com/jobs/112975/…

Quill

1:50 AM

@hichris123 that sounds like a lot of API calls

> Ample gold

Somewhat official EOL announcement on SE's cloudflare support

bjb568

2:04 AM

@Quill Wow, foundation was really unpopular. It had only -9 uses. stackoverkill.com/ranking/frontend

KAT IS WIN

(Search the video if you like)

JamesENL

Is your channel just cat videos?

user202362

646 extra kilometres on the car hire, I thought it's $0.25 per km. The lady at the car hire desk confirmed it. But when I look at the credit card bill, it's 0.25 plus 24% premium location surcharge, plus 3.5% admin fee, on top of all that, 10% GST

JamesENL

@Telkitty So you're broke and turning to a life of crime?

user202362

So I realised how Australian government has been very protective of it's own people by extort heaps from foreigners because most of the people at Uluru speak languages other than English ...

user315433

@bjb568 Not worried about PII in channel name?

bjb568

2:13 AM

If you bother to look it up, you've limited yourself to a small and probably harmless group.

Not including googlebot, which is the main concern.

As long as you can't find yourself by googling your name, you're probably at least much better than most people.

@JamesENL Well, I'm a cat.

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JamesENL

@Telkitty I think a simpler explanation is that car hire places are bastards. But yes, if you look at the language map of Australia, most places that aren't a city on the coast don't speak English as a primary language

user202362

Most people on the coast speak English, I would know because I have been to many of those smaller towns on the coast ... and most of those places inland speaks English as their primary language too ... unless you are talking about Aboriginals

JamesENL

exactly

user202362

Most of the tourist I bumped into at Uluru speak either German, French, Japanese, Chinese or even Russian.

user202362

2:20 AM

I am sure there are people from many other places too ...

Quill

I think we managed to get all the Australian users on stack exchange into one chat room at once

@bjb568 that's a shame, I really liked those novels

bjb568

:p

user315433

I guess I can release this now - the next languages for #stackoverflow are British and Australian, in that order.

Tweeted by tinkertim on March 22, 2015 at 3:16 PM

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user315433

@SmokeDetector spam, edited in a link to Windows/Mac software.

Quill

2:26 AM

sd k

It's probably not a good sign when my six months of playing around with Tor and basic networking knowledge puts me in the top rep leagues on DW

I'm inclined to agree with the CMs' assessment/s, unless some sort of drastic quality change occurs, it seems doomed to a Lord of the Flies problem scenario

bjb568

2:43 AM

Down to 2 tabs on my iMac. Packing things up before I fly out.

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Quill

sd 2k

user315433

3:17 AM

@bjb568 Same here, flight tomorrow.

bjb568

:D

Mine's at 16:02 EST.

Quill

You guys headed on vacation/s?

hichris123

No, they're obviously going to visit you.

Quill

so that's not a vacation?

bjb568

no

I have an internship.

hichris123

3:19 AM

Well, depends on your definition of a vacation (and where you're putting them up)

@bjb568 Where?

Taiwan

wat

@bjb568 Why?

Family

How?

3:22 AM

Ah. I'd thought Google US offices don't employ cats or something

@hichris123 Unpaid

@bjb568 When?

2 weeks from now

What?

Are you going to have internet there?

bjb568

3:26 AM

No, the internet does not exist outside of the US.

Relax, guys, it's a web development internship…

tchrist

Joseph Gayetty

Joseph C. Gayetty (b. 1827? Massachusetts - d.__ ) was an American inventor credited with the invention of commercial toilet paper. It was the first and remained only one of the few commercial toilet papers from 1857 to 1890 remaining in common use until the invention of splinter-free toilet paper in 1935 by the Northern Tissue Company. == Biography == United States Census records from 1860 show Gayetty lived in New York City with his family; his birthplace in the census records is listed as Massachusetts. He first marketed toilet paper on December 8, 1857. Each sheet of pure Manila hemp paper...

bjb568

nice?

Quill

@bjb568 Watch out. They probably want to steal DevDoodle.

bjb568

:p

tchrist

> It was the first and remained only one of the few commercial toilet papers from 1857 to 1890 remaining in common use until the invention of splinter-free toilet paper in 1935

Quill

3:28 AM

toilet paper had splinters? Ouchie

tchrist

More than 80 years till "splinter-free toilet paper".

I have enough trouble digging slivers out of my feet.

hichris123

@bjb568 Who?

I think that concludes my questions.

bjb568

@hichris123 pagamo.org

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Quill

sd k

@bjb568 what stack do they run on?

hichris123

3:33 AM

@bjb568 You need to work on their website...

Quill

okay index.php goes to a 404, crisis potentially averted

dear god let it not be Java Server Pages

user315433

Yeah, how many MB does it load before I even begin to figure out if I want that site...

bjb568

@Quill Nah.

Apparently they use Phusion Passenger. I dunno what that is, but whatever.

@hichris123 That's the point.

hichris123

@sandwich 17.4?!

Quill

> Phusion Passenger is a multi-language (Ruby, Python, Node) web & app server which can integrate into Apache and Nginx.

hichris123

3:36 AM

... they're downloading 2 MB images just to resize them down to 94x133.

bjb568

Sounds like DevDoodle before SVGs.

Quill

Sounds like bad design

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Quill

sd k

bjb568

Oh, it was only 11.5 KB on DD. github.com/DevDoodle/DevDoodle-Public/blob/master/images/…

Quill

3:38 AM

they say premature optimization is the root of all evil, but those people obviously haven't heard of image compression

hichris123

Even better: the images are 2482x3225. Scaled down to 94x133...

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Quill

4:08 AM

I guess bjb's found the first task to do once he gets there :p

user202362

4:53 AM

@Quill want more cats?

user202362

My friend is giving out free kittens

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Quill

@Telkitty I think 7 is enough

I hope they find a good home though :)

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