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12:05 AM
We missed the 7th birthday of Stack Overflow... because its beta launch dates were never backfilled in the API.
 
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Despite the feature request Fill missing beta dates in the API by Normal Human on meta.stackexchange.com...
 
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Sigh Belatedly, a post from the early wild days: The definitive guide to form-based website authentication by Michiel de Mare on stackoverflow.com (posted 7 years ago today)
 
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Also very relevant to the present day's Stack Exchange :)
 
12:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected in title: socket.io/1/?t=1437482662157 404 Not found by Darshika on stackoverflow.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector fp-
 
2:01 AM
needs 1 more star for stellar question meta.stackexchange.com/questions/78048/…
 
2:11 AM
somehow there's an open question again: stackoverflow.com/questions/5030883/…
@Dronehinge Already starred that :-/
@Dronehinge I nagged someone is SOCVR to do it :)
 
user202362
if I start a question on how I think people's fear on AI is stupid, which site should I post the question on?
 
user259867
"how I think people's fear on AI is stupid" isn't a question.
 
skeptics? world building? , maybe ask question on meta.SE that explains your question in detail/ or just shows your whole question you have
 
user202362
@NormalHuman any thing could be posted in a question format
 
user202362
for example I could have posted it under 'why people fear AI so much'
 
user259867
2:25 AM
Well, based on what you wrote, you can post it anywhere on SE.
 
user202362
then I list 101 reasons why they should not
 
user259867
It won't make a difference to the fate of the question.
 
why not just leave a link only answer to 101 reasons why you should not
 
because it would be deleted with a NAA flag...
either way @chmod, I don't think that would be a constructive question
 
user202362
Why do I post a picture instead of a link to a picture? Because I want more people to see it.
 
user202362
2:27 AM
@Braiam why wouldn't it?
 
user202362
what's constructive?
 
@chmod711telkitty it can't be based in facts... AI are pretty much a unexplored topic, we don't know what should/can happen with an AI
 
watches as @Dronehinge scratch his head expecting those links to onebox
 
2:29 AM
they should? feature-request for ya
 
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user202362
Well if topics about how Killer robots spark fears over the future of artificial intelligence could repetitively made to the news, why can't counter arguments take a part in a good discussion (started with a question).
 
user202362
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 17 hours ago, by Rapptz
You know you've asked a stupid question if it's on SO with 100+ upvotes :(
 
@chmod711telkitty it just doesn't fit the Q&A format
 
user202362
lol?
 
user202362
2:35 AM
you are a bit rigid, aren't you?
 
> "That city's littering laws are too strict. I'd leave, but for some reason every other city is covered in garbage."
we are like that for a very good reason...
 
user202362
2:47 AM
It's more like 'this city's too strict on its citizens, people have no freedom to do anything. I'd leave. But for some reason every other city is full of people doing whatever they want, be that nude sunbaking, wearing short skirt or even having homoesexual relationships'
 
user202362
what you don't understand is not necessarily garbabge
 
ok, seemly you are trying to drag me into a nonconstructive argument where you wouldn't listen reasoning and head towards a consensus...
 
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user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
user202362
@Braiam No, I am pointing out the nonsense in your argument - that you are saying that anything that is not a genuine question that begs an answer does not fit on to SE sub-sites. I am saying that anything that could fit into question & answer format and could provide for a good discussion which lead to better decision making is a good fit to SE sites
 
user202362
2:56 AM
Never forget the true goal of things
 
3:10 AM
@chmod711telkitty and how can you build a Q&A over a topic which only knowledge available are conjectures and theories, without a single fact?
lets say the Q&A gets created, what can you ask about that you would answer with a 100% of certainly that it will be true?
 
user202362
@Braiam how do you know there is no fact?
 
@chmod711telkitty do you exist? and why you think you exist?
 
user202362
I am amazed at the speed you are jumping into conclusion with any information
 
user202362
@Braiam I could ask the same question to you: ' do you exist? and why you think you exist?' Why did you even bother to reply to me without knowing you exist?
 
Not constructive.
 
3:21 AM
@chmod711telkitty I do exist because I have a name within the language, a set of attached characteristics and follow a set of laws, which brings us to the fact that I do exist
 
user202362
but according to you, there is no fact ...
 
@chmod711telkitty quote where I said that...
 
user202362
you first said 'how can you build a Q&A over a topic which only knowledge available are conjectures and theories, without a single fact?' then you used ' do you exist? and why you think you exist?' as an example of such a question
 
I still don't see where I negated the possibility of the existence of any and every fact
 
user202362
which comes back the question:
 
user202362
3:25 AM
13 mins ago, by chmod 711 telkitty
@Braiam how do you know there is no fact?
 
1 min ago, by Braiam
I still don't see where I negated the possibility of the existence of any and every fact
 
user202362
15 mins ago, by Braiam
@chmod711telkitty and how can you build a Q&A over a topic which only knowledge available are conjectures and theories, without a single fact?
 
user202362
you are contradicting yourself all along
 
are you actually reading my sentences?
repeat me back what I said in that line with your own words...
I know that I can make a tchrist sometimes, but that sentence is completely understandable
 
sʇuᴉnbs
 
user202362
I wonder why every one of my long conversations here turned so unconstructive. Why did I even bother to come here, I should have just posted the question on philosophy.stackexchange.com. That's a 20 minutes I will never get back ...
 
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Q: Hello Everybody, How are you?

user38431I'm a bit new here. I thought I'd say hello; as some of you seem like nice people. I'm a bit new here. I thought I'd say hello; as some of you seem like nice people.

 
user259867
Enjoy the silence of meta.TWP on a weekend.
 
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Or the silence of the Tavern, for that matter.
 
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0
Q: Can you make your villagers skin

Prof Stevenhello prof Steven you can be my helper

 
user259867
4:34 AM
^ self-answered question, too.
 
5:00 AM
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rolled back
 
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sigh Nobody's selling fake diplomas of my university... I feel neglected.
 
5:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Ensure you stay effective 5 Methods To Utilize The Law Of Attraction? by kaleielek on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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@SmokeDetector fp-
 
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Completely blacklisting Chinese on TWP may be too much... but a string of {N} Han characters (i.e., a long sentence in Chinese) probably doesn't belong on any non-language site...
 
6:25 AM
blacklist candidate safewiper.com
 
@bummi added
 
thanks
 
user259867
I've been thinking of a way to exclude "21474672xx" from phone regex, but none came to mind... quite a number of error codes in this range.
 
user259867
Ah, but this is not just a regex, there is also a method check_phone_numbers.
 
If we can be sure that there are no spammy phone numbers in that range, we can exclude it.
 
user259867
6:31 AM
The probability of 10^(-8)...
 
True.
I suppose I can add such a check in check_phone_numbers.
 
user259867
@ProgramFOX It can be more restrictive: 21474672[56]\d, for 2*10^(-9) probability.
 
Good idea.
!!/rev?
 
@NormalHuman ^ Done.
 
user259867
6:40 AM
Thanks. And even with r" " syntax, yay for regex readability.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: you need to be motivated about your Weight Loss by nashkatelyn on superuser.com
 
blacklist candidate thermosculptproblog.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: You avocadoes and can consume these well balanced by garricksik on askubuntu.com
 
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\w{15,}blog.com ?
 
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Maybe just add to the existing pattern "[\\w-]{11,}(income|sale|reviews?|advices?)\\.(co|net|org|in)",
 
user259867
6:55 AM
Ah, but mysqlperformanceblog.com... Yeah, there would be a ton of false positives for that.
 
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7:31 AM
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[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Why does my puppy go berserk when playing with plastic mugs? by Minh on pets.stackexchange.com
 
If you could have a super power, what will it be?
 
9:14 AM
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rolled back...
 
11:36 AM
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11:49 AM
sd tpu-
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy *closed
 
I expected that to be a cv request for the complete site...
 
12:05 PM
Well, it's a reboot, so it's already been closed once...
or twice...
 
You wanna badge for that or a chest to pin it on? :)
 
Naaah, don't need it
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy that's META.sex.se
 
12:26 PM
Maybe we shouldn't use shortcuts for that site to prevent this room being blocked from packet-inspecting proxies....
 
12:40 PM
@rene Just wait until a Goat enthusiast proposal goes into beta :/
 
12:51 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: Why does YaST now show lines as lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq? by tmsimont on superuser.com
 
1:06 PM
@rene Call it hex not sex and we’ll fly under the nannydar.
 
spam alive?
 
@tchrist won't that cause confusion if someone pops in and asks if anyone can help with a quick hex conversion problem?
 
@PeterJ that would be terrible, so lets do it!
 
1:52 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHICH MAKES A MAGNET STRONGER? A.C OR D.C? by MAX TAYLOR on physics.stackexchange.com
 
2:15 PM
Hallo
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: How can I record Skype conversations? by Lei Kristianne Bernard on askubuntu.com
 
How to convert hex with node pls
Need base64
Also, is legal to hex with goat? sry, ask for friend
 
2:35 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Android ( alarm manager ) how to add date picker on this am new by a rob on stackoverflow.com
 
2:50 PM
@PeterJ In my experience, Wiccans aren’t much into proselytization.
 
@NormalHuman and even if it's a valid question, they may ask it in the wrong site
 
I have a pending wiki edit in the queue on MSE, can anyone who can review that do me a favor and have a look at it?
 
3:06 PM
needs 90 upvotes on answers
 
hold on
 
@rene It appears also contains more questions than just about the Activity tab. Or is that just because the tag is misused there?
 
@ProgramFOX yeah, I saw that and will look into those to either retag or improve the post.
 
lgtm, then
votes to approve
 
tnx
 
3:23 PM
wow, this chat looks so derpy without CSS
 
coz it no haz CSS!
 
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3:25 PM
@SmokeDetector no thank you
 
Gone? Thats fast
 
glances a man called Jon
 
Jon Skeet
Wait... A mod nuked the spam question
even the user was nuked
 
Announcer | Booster | Publicist | User Badges. Almost all recent badges are Announcer/Booster/Publicist or Popular/Notable/Famous Question. — Pang 5 hours ago
Busy guy.
I wonder who’s funding his PAC?
 
3:43 PM
hiya
 
how to respond to an user who is constantly editing the question to remove the tags?
 
point to note: user is 50k+
but still I found the acations questionable
*actions
 
Which question?
 
3:45 PM
removal of one tag or two maybe ok
 
Or is it a pattern?
 
but after the edit it mostly comes down to only two
which, IMHO, is not very healthy
I don't always support for all 5
 
Well, it may have been the right thing to do.
 
@SouravGhosh is he following a tag burnination request?
 
Can’t say.
 
3:46 PM
flags to be used
 
what tags?
 
Sometimes tags are completely wrong.
You cannot measure the worth of an edit by counts.
 
but sometimes it's not good to be too stringent
 
Please, show us the question.
 
I noticed the pattern on my answered questions
 
3:47 PM
waits
 
I don't want to point out to a single question
 
Then there’s not much to talk about.
 
may you please check the answers list
@tchrist if in any case, I'm having some wrong concept, this is my chnage to get corrected
so, please, don't close the tpoic yet
 
you aren't even giving us the chance to correct you...
 
@Braiam sorry sir, how's so?
 
3:49 PM
I think she wants us to figure it out for ourselves. Pass.
 
@SouravGhosh search for our messages that end in a "?", have you answered those?
 
@Braiam oh sorry
1. I hope no no clean-up is asoociated, as all the tags are well-established
 
2. not any specific tags, anything from a set of pointer, arrays, string
 
Hm.
They’re certainly doing something.
 
They probably think it’s for the greater good.
 
i checked the meta
found this question
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Q: Tagging a question based on its answers

duplodeConsider the following question: How do I use Frob to gurgle a flubber? The OP has added [frob] and [flubber] tags to it. After a while, an answer is posted: Frob is not the right tool for the job. You should use Glub instead. Suppose the answer is non-trivial, and that it is well-rec...

eventually, I use to re-tag a question based on related high-traffic tags
 
@SouravGhosh still not seeing any evidence, only you onesidely showing us your point of view
 
so it may get proper attention
 
There must be an explaination, but beats me.
 
3:56 PM
@Braiam well, I don't have much evidence as such, but just a pattern i noticed
 
[sic]
 
@SouravGhosh I'm not seeing the "pattern" you noticed, where are the post/questions/edits. Show the links, or stop
 
@tchrist same thing sir
@Braiam just a min sir
 
Ok, I don’t undertand their tag edits, either.
 
3:58 PM
That’s the only pattern I see.
 
You have erred, @SouravGhosh. You should never revert an edit.
This is how edit wars occur.
 
It does not work. You will have to find some other way to resolve this than tit-for-tat.
 
@tchrist I realized that after my second reversal and stopped that
 
4:00 PM
ok
Again, under the principle that they’re probably trying to do some good, one should try to learn why they are doing this.
 
not pointing to anyone, but just asking, how can only one tag be helpful for a question?
 
That’s not a useful question.
 
in the help center and FAQ
 
And it does not characterize what’s going on very well.
 
it it mentioned
 
4:02 PM
@SouravGhosh if you don't tag your C question with [c] but with [array] [error] and what not, you wont get an answer
 
that at least two tags shoould be used
 
I suggest you ask the editor.
 
is more important that the tag that stays are obviously relevant than just plainly add tags, just to meet some magic number
 
yep
 
@Braiam i certainly agree, but only adding c and removing array and pointer should not help, ekther, please correct me if i'm wrong
 
4:03 PM
Actually.
I believe there’s something about that on meta.
How can one be an array expert?
 
@tchrist it's not expert, just more experienced with handling questions aboout arrays
 
But using arrays in assembler and doing so in jquery share nothing in common.
I’m not strongly arguing the point, just bringing up what I’ve seen raised.
That was fast. :)
 
@SouravGhosh that's a slippery slope, people tend to pull categories out of thin air, as if they are keywords, and tags are not keywords
I prefer a tagging scheme where you are sure your question is answered, rather than trying to categorize them on all the possible fits
 
@Braiam but, I've seen in certain circumstances, someone not following the language, come up with some great explanation with the data structure used
 
In the particular case of C, it’s pure nonsense thinking about pointers and arrays differently.
 
4:09 PM
@tchrist ohhh, i can't agree to that sir, sorry
 
Good luck with that. Tell me how it works out for you.
 
@tchrist however, from the tagging point of view, I support you
@tchrist actually sometimes, some major confusions happen for thinking arrays and pointers are same and we can use them interchangeably. while sometimes this is true, not always
 
Given that *a and a[0] are the same for all possible a . . . .
 
just to elaborate this point, the question should be tagged with both array and pointers
so that any possible confusion can be avoided
 
I suggest you raise the topic on meta.
 
4:12 PM
@tchrist just to counter that technically, for a[10] and *a, sizeof will give differnt result
a, &a, &a[0], all are differnt types
 
Non sequitur.
 
maybe due to function decay we can use them interchangeably, but they are not the same.
@tchrist OK, i think that will be better
thanks for all your time and help
 
@SouravGhosh It would be impolite of me to say "nonsense".
 
@tchrist and @Braiam sir. :-)
 
However, your assertion is equally specious.
You will find that sizeof(*a) and sizeof(a[10]) are always equal.
Because a[0] and a[10] must needs be the same size.
 
4:17 PM
well, but sizeof(a) will give different result
that is what I was talking about
 
That was not under discussion.
5 mins ago, by SouravGhosh
@tchrist just to counter that technically, for a[10] and *a, sizeof will give differnt result
That statement is false.
 
@tchrist ohh i missed an a after sizeof.....
the same thing
also ++ will behave differently, right?
just thinking of scenarios sir
where they look same be behave different
i'm not saying you're wrong
 
a[10] is not an array.
 
but many newbies have that misconception about an array itself and a pointer to array being the same thing, when they are not.
ya ok that was a definition, not an element
i know i'm doing a terrible job explaining myself
and also , for a 10- element array, 10 is neither a valid index
:)
 
You want to say that a declaration of some_type a[50], *p will cause sizeof to produce different answers for p and a even when p = a. But this is no mean feat.
 
4:26 PM
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user259867
@SmokeDetector naa
 
@tchrist like int a[10] = {0};
int *p = NULL;
 
That’s a declaration, not an expression.
 
then consider p = a;
now
sizeof a and sizeof p
will be different
something like this
we can access the array both via
 
Teaching grandmother to suck eggs is an English language saying meaning that a person is giving advice to someone else about a subject about which they already know (and probably more than the first person). "Egg sucking" removed the egg contents while preserving the shell intact. Two small holes were made on the ends of the egg, and the contents sucked out. The shell could then be painted or otherwise used for decorative purposes without it becoming rotten and smelling bad. == Origins of the phrase == The origins of the phrase are not clear. The OED and others suggest that it comes from ...
 
4:31 PM
a and p
 
I’ve understood this fully much longer than you’ve been alive.
 
!!/coffee
 
@berserk brews coffee for @berserk
 
but a and p are not same, they are simmilar
 
You are not listening.
 
4:32 PM
@Pro hey, can you write something here?
 
I therefore shall go and do likewise.
 
Hi!
 
@tchrist I know sir, I'm not trying to tell you, just making myself clear
 
is funny to see tchrist doing a monologe
 
@ProgramFOX Okay not worked.. I was unable to see avatar of smokey, but when it wrote message, it appeared.
 
4:37 PM
@tchrist sorry If I seem rude
@Braiam I did not do such intentionally, i'm just a bit confused
I don't want to get into an edit war because of lack of knowledge on something
I am thinking something is proper which may not actually be
so I'm trying to possibly correct myself
 
@ProgramFOX nah, not worked :/
 
@berserk What didn't work?
 
oops, I already replied to that message. I thought it is the second 'Hi' you posted lol
This is how I see it lol
 
Is Gravatar blocked at your location?
 
anyways, I'll do as suggested by @tchrist, bring this up on meta
thank you all
 
4:43 PM
No.
welcome :)
 
@berserk Well, I believe your connection to Gravatar is broken somehow... don't know why, perhaps it gives an error in your browser console.
 
Genius Pro. You are right!
steals @Pro 's brain
 
@berserk 403 Unauthorized
 
@ProgramFOX 404 Not Found
;P
 
500 Internal Brain Error
 
4:46 PM
xD
UnsupportedBrainException
:3
 
brb dinner
 
user259867
BTW, the user replied after I pinged them on main site; they didn't know about the meta thread.
 
user259867
Generally, I'm in favor of people explaining their actions to the extent they deem necessary, and they have done that.
 
4:53 PM
 
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@SmokeDetector edited, dupe
 
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5:48 PM
@SmokeDetector fp- not an email, it's a link
 
 
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