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GraphicProgram::GraphicProgram(const GraphicProgram &gp){
executableName = gp.executableName;
Window *win = gp.windowPtr;
windowPtr = (*win).clone();
}

It workinates, @moot! (mootinates)

Smells like fried something in my room.

Chicken maybe?

Always a nasal journey, living above the downstairs kitchen is.

mootinator

4:38 AM

yummm

Moshe

Yea, night.

animuson

4:57 AM

Hmmm, the system didn't check that another edit had been made before I submitted mine, and it accepted my suggested edit into the queue. :/

We both made some vastly different edits so... yeah, it's only really helpful from the original context.

Tim Stone

10:39 AM

@animuson Hmm, that doesn't seem right.

I wonder if it applies the "more substantial" check there...

abatishchev

0

Q: Merge [ashx] into [httphandler]

httphandler (634) tag's wiki states: ASP.NET Request Processing Introduces ASP.NET handling of HTTP requests... So this tag is dedicated to ASP.NET ashx handlers. Also there is ashx (228) covering the same topic. Please merge or add a synonym. Even having a silver badge in ASP.NET I can't...

jadarnel27

12:48 PM

Heh, I just accidentally approved an edit that removed the duplicate link from a closed question. Oops.

User suggests edit to question -> questions is closed, duplicate link added -> incompetent user with edit privileges approves that edit, which did not include the duplicate link.

Incompetent user rolls back and makes the changes the first editor made.

jadarnel27

1:03 PM

Someone has made a bug report due to my blunder!

2

Q: The "dupe link" edit by Community interferes with suggested edits

(Or maybe the suggested edits interfere with the dupe link, I guess that also works.) So this is something I've seen happening a couple times, such as here. When an edit is suggested before, and approved after the question is closed as a duplicate, the edit will appear to edit out the "Possible...

bug suggested-edits community-user

RobSiklos

1:18 PM

Not that I'm complaining, but I seem to have been recently awarded +1 rep on stackoverflow question 185575. Weird thing is, it only tells me this in the list of recent reputation changes shown in the info I get when I hover over my user name in the title bar. Weird.

I have no idea what I did to get this reputation, since I never participated in that question

jadarnel27

@RobSiklos Perhaps you downvoted an answer to that question, and the answer was deleted?

If you go to your reputation tab, and check the box at the bottom that says "Show removed posts", you should see the change in there somewhere.

RobSiklos

@jadarnel27: but the rep is +1, not -1. Do I get +1 if a downvoted answer is deleted?

Tom Wright

Hey all - anybody with >10K free to help me retrieve the text of a question that just got deleted? Want to post it on programmers instead

jadarnel27

@RobSiklos You get -1 when you downvote an answer. You get that back if the answer is deleted (so +1).

Tim Stone

1:36 PM

@TomWright I assume on Stack Overflow? If so, I'm not quite there yet, unfortunately.

Tom Wright

@TimStone Yeah, spent ages composing it and got deleted before I refreshed the page. Was expecting it to be a bit controversial, but wasn't expected an instant delete. Should have stored a draft somewhere...

@TimStone And now I want to post it to programmers, but I can't face the prospect of starting from scratch.

Daniel Fischer

@TomWright Link? I could look

Tom Wright

@DanielFischer Thanks - I can't see it at all now, but I assume it would be visible on my user page? stackoverflow.com/users/50151/tom-wright

Daniel Fischer

@TomWright Nope, deleted stuff is only visible to moderators in the profiles.

Tom Wright

@DanielFischer OK, my history thinks it was at stackoverflow.com/questions/10351311/…

Daniel Fischer

1:43 PM

How many programmers have synaesthesia?

Tom Wright

Yup

Could you email me the source? tom@tdwright.co.uk

Daniel Fischer

Okay, I'm grabbing it and put it in the sandbox here, hang on a minute.

Tom Wright

Cheers man - really appreciate it!

Daniel Fischer

Or mail it, yes.

I'm not sure whether it will survive on programmers, though.

Tom Wright

Damn - I think the answers would be really interesting

Any way I could modify it to make it more SE friendly?

Daniel Fischer

1:47 PM

Mail sent.

Tom Wright

Thanks again

Daniel Fischer

Can't really say much, I don't know what Programmers accepts.

jadarnel27

Hello Unreliable @DanielFischer! While you're looking at deleted stuff, would you mind looking at this answer? I'm wondering if it was self-deleted, or deleted by casperOne.

Daniel Fischer

'twas casper, of course.

Yi Jiang's Proble_

@jadarnel27 Look carefully, it was turned into a comment

So it has to be a mod

jadarnel27

1:52 PM

@DanielFischer Nice. I flagged it as NAA and the flag was marked "disputed." Just wondering what happened there.

Daniel Fischer

@jadarnel27 Some 10k+ reviewer disagreed with the flag, so it was marked as disputed.

jadarnel27

@YiJiangsProble_ Ah, I can't believe I missed that. I was too distracted by the fact that my comment on that answer was moved to the question. But I guess it was following that answer =)

Daniel Fischer

casperOne agreed with your flag, so acted on it.

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer I seriously always forgot that 10kers throw in on those.

I'm really batting 100 today.

Daniel Fischer

That a Baseball expression, "batting 100"?

jadarnel27

1:57 PM

The expression is actually "batting 1000", which means you never miss.

Daniel Fischer

So batting 100 would mean missing nine out of ten?

jadarnel27

Right.

Daniel Fischer

Get a drink or some sleep. Whichever helps you more often.

jadarnel27

People say "Man, I'm really batting 1000 today" ironically when they keep getting stuff wrong. I like to say "batting 100" because it's even more ironic =)

(because then I have gotten the figure of speech wrong, batting 100 actually is bad)

@DanielFischer Sleep would be a good idea. I haven't drank anything in over a year, so that would probably be a bad idea =P

Daniel Fischer

Not drank anything?? Not even a tea?

jadarnel27

2:01 PM

Ah, I thought you were referring to a specific type of drinking. I love tea.

Daniel Fischer

Alcohol? I wouldn't suggest that before noon.

jadarnel27

I've taken your recommendation and retrieved some coffee. It's helping muh brainz.

@DanielFischer That's a probably a good policy.

Why was I thinking that Marshal was 400 helpful flags?

Moshe

2:19 PM

This sentence is a lie.

Daniel Fischer

No it isn't.

It's just wrong.

@jadarnel27 Dunno, how many flags are required for Marshal, btw.?

Moshe

This sentence is not a sentence.

This sentence is not a sentence, hence it's a lie.

This sentence is not a sentence, however, it tells the truth.

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer 500 now. I could have sworn it was 400 sometime between when flag weight went away and now.

balpha

You cannot prove this tweet to be true.

Tweeted by balpha on March 25, 2012 at 9:33 AM

But it is.

Tweeted by balpha on March 25, 2012 at 9:33 AM

jadarnel27

Wasn't there a popular SE question about that? searches

Moshe

2:25 PM

@balpha :-D

Daniel Fischer

@jad Maybe you thought it was 400 because that's 5×Deputy?

Moshe

@balpha I knew I was already following you.

Not sure why I missed that tweet.

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer It's quite possible that I made some connection like that, good observation.

moguzalp enel_hak

Upcoming events: in 9 hours Happy Hour & 3 000 000 th question (probably today)

balpha

@Moshe maybe you have a life and don't spend 24/7 on twitter :)

also, mildly related: klouchebag.com

jadarnel27

2:28 PM

Hahaha

Moshe

@balpha it doesn't work!

jadarnel27

Oh yay, this is what I was thinking of:

107

Q: Multiple-choice question about the probability of a random answer to itself being correct

I found this math "problem" on the internet, and I'm wondering if it has an answer: Question: If you choose an answer to this question at random, what is the probability that you will be correct? a. 25% b. 50% c. 0% d. 25% Does this question have a correct answer?

probability faq

@Moshe The liar paradox. I was having trouble remembering what that was called.

Check out that Math.SE post, it's pretty interesting.

balpha

Gödel's incompleteness theorems

Gödel's incompleteness theorems are two theorems of mathematical logic that establish inherent limitations of all but the most trivial axiomatic systems capable of doing arithmetic. The theorems, proven by Kurt Gödel in 1931, are important both in mathematical logic and in the philosophy of mathematics. The two results are widely, but not universally, interpreted as showing that Hilbert's program to find a complete and consistent set of axioms for all mathematics is impossible, giving a negative answer to Hilbert's second problem. The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent...

jadarnel27

@balpha Thanks, I was looking for some light reading.

balpha

well, that's why @Moshe and I gave you the tweet-sized versions ;)

jadarnel27

2:42 PM

Haha, right =)

Moshe

Thanks. I just joined klout thanks to you. Ugh.

I'm influential about Boston apparently. Haven't said a word about Boston recently or ever iirc.

Boston. Boston. Boston. Boston.

Klout is stupid. As is SEO.

jadarnel27

3:24 PM

I just wrote an abomination of a SQL query.

Daniel Fischer

You can say that shorter: "I just wrote some SQL".

jadarnel27

Hahahaha

If I have two aggregate columns in my query, and I want a third column that's just a total of those two, is the only way to accomplish that repeating the previous two expressions and summing them in the third column?

I guess I shouldn't really be using SQL for that kind of stuff. That's more for the presentation layer.

Moshe

Well. Depends on the context, I'd say. Core Data, the persistence framework on iOS, supports aggregation. So aggregation clearly can be considered part of the data layer.

jadarnel27

Oh, right. Thanks @Moshe. I actually mean the "total" column is inappropriate for SQL. The other aggregate columns are fine.

I don't know if I'm really making myself clear without giving an example, sorry.

Basically, I've got something like:

SELECT
    SUM(itemCost) AS [Product Charges],
    SUM(shippingCost) AS [Freight Charges],
    SUM(handlingCost) AS [Handling Charges]

And what I think is inappropriate is adding a fourth column like this:

    SUM(itemCost) + SUM(shippingCost) + SUM(handlingCost) AS [Total Charges]

I wonder how @TimStone feels about this stuff ---^

Tim Stone

3:54 PM

What am I feeling?

Ah

@jadarnel27 Yes to presentation layer. The alternate way is to wrap the query in a simple outer SELECT that aggregates the generated columns

But the return value of SUM() is probably memoized in the scope of the current record, so I doubt it matters

jadarnel27

@TimStone Thanks for the confirmation =) Also, I didn't even think about using an outer SELECT like that. Huh.

@TimStone I don't understand what this means.

Tim Stone

It's probably no different than being able to do [Product Charges] + [Freight Charges] + [Handling Charges] AS [Total Charges]

jadarnel27

Oh, I see what you're saying.

Tim Stone

4:18 PM

@jadarnel27 Oh...Apparently I was wrong.

You do incur the function overhead twice, hmm.

Oh, no I wasn't.

I was wrong in the past but in the present I seem to not be. :P

jadarnel27

Gross. So the outer SELECT would be preferable then. I wonder how much faster this query runs without that.

Tim Stone

5

A: SQL Server aggregate performance

It calculates once Select Sum(Price), Sum(Price) / 12 From MyTable The plan gives: |--Compute Scalar(DEFINE:([Expr1004]=[Expr1003]/(12.))) |--Compute Scalar(DEFINE:([Expr1003]=CASE WHEN [Expr1010]=(0) THEN NULL ELSE [Expr1011] END)) |--Stream Aggregate(DEFINE:([Expr1010]=Count...

jadarnel27

Bah. Quit changing your mind! =P

@TimStone Thanks, that actually is very helpful. I never think to look at that execution plan.

And many times I just don't understand what it means when I do look haha.

jadarnel27

4:49 PM

+1 for footnotes. I love footnotes. — Shep 8 mins ago

I'll take it.

Oh gosh, the "interesting" tab on SO works with real-time updates? I didn't think that was going to happen.

Tim Stone

:o

jadarnel27

"27 question with new activity"

@TimStone Aaaand it's gone now. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything.

Seriously, that was odd. Maybe I'm crazy.

Daniel Fischer

5:29 PM

@jad No, the interesting tab has real-time updates - occasionally.

jadarnel27

6:13 PM

@DanielFischer Thanks. I'm rarely on the "interesting" page (pretty much exclusively on the asp.net "newest" page all the time).

Daniel Fischer

@jadarnel27 I have it open in one tab continually. So sometimes I see a (5) there, but most of the time it doesn't real-time update. No idea what may cause it.

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer Oh, no kidding. Perhaps the devs are just testing performance of that feature, and turn it on / off at the server from time to time.

Daniel Fischer

6:34 PM

Aww, the 3,000,000-questions non-question was deleted :(

status-norepro

was so nice

jadarnel27

6:56 PM

Aw, no kidding. That sucks. My milestone post is still on the site.

Daniel Fischer

What's your milestone post?

secretly planning to nuke it with flags

jadarnel27

>:-|

@DanielFischer It's for the 10,000,000th post on Stack Overflow post.

The person that posted it got special recognition from a moderator:

You've won nothing! Absolutely nothing! — Will Apr 3 at 20:44

Daniel Fischer

Ah, that's a nice answer, I can't flag that ;)

jadarnel27

7:12 PM

Thanks =)

My diabolical plan is complete - an answer consisting solely of an xkcd comic is now the most highly upvoted answer on my network profile.

Mwaaahahahaha!

Daniel Fischer

Is that a diabolical plan to get us to upvote some other answer more?

Popular Demand

Hey, apparently I never downvoted you despite leaving a comment indicating that I did. Let me go fix that.

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer I am actually not quite that clever; but if it works out that way, that's great!

@PopularDemand I know you're a busy guy, so I won't hold it against you if you don't have time for that.

I really like the comment for revision 3 - "reworked title to reflect mood"

Moshe

8:06 PM

Considering open-sourcing my game, Nippon. Too busy to maintain it. Thoughts?

mootinator

8:45 PM

We require more minerals.

Daniel Fischer

Dang, the 10k tools are evil. I have more helpful flags than cast votes :(

Tim Stone

9:49 PM

@PopularDemand "the rest of us are only community leaders in our own heads" ...Yes, unfortunately I'm many things only in my mind. :P

Popular Demand

I'm glad someone appreciated that moment of levity.

I never did write that essay on the psychology of Stack Overflow. I guess it's on the list of things that would be nice to do but have such a low priority that it's unlikely they'll ever get done.

Tim Stone

Well now you've gone and gotten me to set expectations...so I expect a fully-collated draft by next week.

Popular Demand

41

A: What aspects of psychology does Stack Overflow take advantage of?

Actually, the main psychological phenomenon underlying Stack Overflow (and numerous other sites with similar reputation/karma/badge/reward systems) is something that's been discussed on meta before: Intermittent Variable Reward. Although I think the "correct" term (or at least the one more commo...

I'll let your printer handle the collation.

mootinator

10:10 PM

Note to self: when being clever for the sake of expediency, tell someone.

Moshe

10:46 PM

Older man speaking Chinese on B train. Jamaican woman starts screaming at him. "Welcome to America, land of the free." Racism's always ugly.

Tweeted by bermaniastudios on April 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM

@moot - you're always bring clever. I suppose the question becomes "is this cleverness for the sake of expediency or something else?"

mootinator

@Moshe expediency = lazy

Me: Implementing these UI changes to support this feature seems like a waste of time.

PM: I'm going to push this feature to the next release because I don't want UI regressions.

Me: Er. . . Oops.

I found a way to do what the UI changes were intended to accomplish by modifying the backend, thus making the feature invisible to the user.

In case that was unclear :)

Now that it's 5pm I can create a database schema for my silly new app.

Daniel Fischer

11:38 PM

Hmm, Happy hour in the Tavern means everybody is so happy that nobody talks?

mootinator

Yes.

Do I want to use ruby on rails, cakephp, ASP.NET MVC, or Grails for this project which will take me 5 minutes to implement once I decide that.

Daniel Fischer

Cake sounds most nutritious. If there are no better criteria for the choice, why not take that?

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